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| MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/3/2007 11:48:53 AM | message detail |
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Doesn't the ASV usually begin around now? Duke and Gordon's leads are both going up. --- Demyx is better than Axel. I don't like Haley Scarnato |
| Lopen | Posted 10/3/2007 11:49:12 AM | message detail |
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Why would you assume Gordon to be constant here? Balls of steel the
Duke may have, he's not likely to have gained strength. I thought if
anything this match was good to prove that Gordon is incredibly
overrated. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/3/2007 11:50:56 AM | message detail |
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It doesn't really start til after 3, but it is kicking in gradually. Ike is averaging 27% now instead of the earlier 25 --- This story is not an end yet. Because only you are in the infinity loop. |
| transience | Posted 10/3/2007 11:51:31 AM | message detail |
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2000 votes, eh? well, this'll be interesting to watch, anyway. this match looks over though. --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/3/2007 11:56:35 AM | message detail |
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Why would you assume Gordon to be constant here? Balls of steel the
Duke may have, he's not likely to have gained strength. I thought if
anything this match was good to prove that Gordon is incredibly
overrated. It doesn't look good for him and it perhaps casts doubt on certain preconceptions (i.e. Gordon's supposed 'nonlinearity' being caused by his hardcore fanbase), but this format rarely 'proves' things unless they're incredibly obvious. I, for one, don't buy into many of the theories borne out of this contest (Xbox boost, KH drop), and I'm sure MANY of them will be discredited come a more traditional contest. --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/3/2007 11:58:40 AM | message detail |
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I guess that would be the start --- This story is not an end yet. Because only you are in the infinity loop. |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/3/2007 11:58:42 AM | message detail |
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Huge Gordon and Ike cuts. Do something Gordon. --- Demyx is better than Axel. I don't like Haley Scarnato |
| Lopen | Posted 10/3/2007 11:58:47 AM | message detail |
| I agree nothing's concrete, but when you're losing
to a guy that's supposedly a good 7%+ or so below you in the x-stats
without an obvious explanation you have to assume something is wrong,
odd format or not. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| Draco1214 | Posted 10/3/2007 11:59:46 AM | message detail |
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Here comes the Ike storm... --- Currently Playing: Wild Arms 3, Persona 3 |
| ffmasterjose | Posted 10/3/2007 12:00:42 PM | message detail |
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Come on Gordon and Ike >_> --- Current Score: 91/120 - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VI NP: Gordon Freeman > Ike |
| Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/3/2007 12:01:07 PM | message detail |
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AFTERSCHOOL VOTE-GO! --- He was stuck by lightning and became insane.don't mind him.-hiei on me. Sound advice. |
| Lopen | Posted 10/3/2007 12:01:18 PM | message detail |
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I wouldn't start waving the comeback flags yet. There's also a chance
Ike stops this once the all out ASV hits. Lloyd Irving, another chiefly
morning character pulled this early against HK-47, too. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/3/2007 12:02:24 PM | message detail |
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Oh, I don't necessarily disagree with the conclusion, I was just saying this match isn't much proof of it. I think Gordon's double
overrated in 2006 (Sora/Gordon, Snake/Mega Man), and I still had him
taking first here. Part of that being the perceived weakness of the
opponents, sure, but part of it also coming from a belief that he's
nonlinear for a reason, and that same nonlinearity would make him stand
tall in this format (while he would 'underperform' on any of the
competitors in a one-on-one match). As it stands... I wonder how said one-on-one matches would go. --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/3/2007 12:03:19 PM | message detail |
| True, but that was more to do with Zero and Jak
than Lloyd himself... If it were 1 on 1 Lloyd vs. HK, he might have
won. I don't think Gordon nor Duke can nullify Ike like Lloyd... I
could be wrong, though. --- He was stuck by lightning and became insane.don't mind him.-hiei on me. Sound advice. |
| Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/3/2007 12:04:39 PM | message detail |
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Gordon wins, Ike and Duke tie. --- He was stuck by lightning and became insane.don't mind him.-hiei on me. Sound advice. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/3/2007 12:05:13 PM | message detail |
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woo sub-10% updates for Guybrush woo Guybrush --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| transience | Posted 10/3/2007 12:09:45 PM | message detail |
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day vote going ike > gordon > duke, hmm? damn, I wanted to see duke > ike just for laughs. --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
| BDawg | Posted 10/3/2007 12:09:52 PM | message detail |
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Um yeah Guybrush had his golden age during the night, he's going down hard. --- Should I start running now? |
| Lopen | Posted 10/3/2007 12:09:59 PM | message detail |
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Looking more like a three way stall at this point than Ike really trying to do anything yet. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/3/2007 12:13:54 PM | message detail |
| Um, Ike *can't* do anything when he's down by this
much (he's no Axel, these guys are no Frog), but he's definitely
improved. Neither he nor Gordon have lost an update to Duke since the
3:00 mark... --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/3/2007 12:13:55 PM | message detail |
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Yeeeeeeeeah. Not much seems to be happening here --- This story is not an end yet. Because only you are in the infinity loop. |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/3/2007 12:14:36 PM | message detail |
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I like how you made that post 40 seconds after Ike and Gordon lost an update to Duke >_> --- This story is not an end yet. Because only you are in the infinity loop. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/3/2007 12:14:55 PM | message detail |
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I will hurt you --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| Lopen | Posted 10/3/2007 12:16:10 PM | message detail |
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Aw yeah. See that? That's what the Duke thinks of your trend, boy. I'll take a 3 way stall. Still gives concrete support to the idea that morning vote doesn't necessarily != ASV to use for later... not that there aren't already concrete examples of that, but more is good! --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/3/2007 12:16:19 PM | message detail |
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So far Ike seems to be doing just as well as he was this morning.
Unfortunately for him, Duke and Gordon are doing better as well by
stealing more votes for Guybrush --- This story is not an end yet. Because only you are in the infinity loop. |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/3/2007 12:17:11 PM | message detail |
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Except this match is more proof than counter-proof that morning vote does indicate ASV vote... --- This story is not an end yet. Because only you are in the infinity loop. |
| Lopen | Posted 10/3/2007 12:17:24 PM | message detail |
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Er... doesn't necessarily = ASV. Damn double negatives! --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| Lopen | Posted 10/3/2007 12:19:07 PM | message detail |
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It's really not though if Ike doesn't actually cut much votes. He may
be doing slightly better, but this is hardly the same as the morning
vote Ike we saw. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/3/2007 12:19:18 PM | message detail |
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Man nothing is happening. Gordon makes some random three vote cuts and Ike loses one update to Gordon and then wins another. --- Demyx is better than Axel. I don't like Haley Scarnato |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 10/3/2007 12:20:20 PM | message detail |
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In the morning, Ike climbed to 30% by taking percentage from Gordon and
Duke. At the moment, Ike's hit 30% by killing poor Guybrush. --- Mustache...and green... www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/3/2007 12:21:55 PM | message detail |
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This is DEFINITELY the same Ike we saw in relation to the morning vote,
it's just that Gordon and Duke aren't sucking nearly as much with it.
But as far as improvement goes, Ike clearly is taking the afterschool
vote by storm. Going from losing updates by 7-8% or more to winning
them outright is quite a shift... --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| Haste_2 | Posted 10/3/2007 12:23:29 PM | message detail |
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Gordon will still find a way to lose. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/3/2007 12:24:10 PM | message detail |
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Heh, looks like Gordon is actually making more ground in terms of votes though than Ike is. Didn't really expect that --- This story is not an end yet. Because only you are in the infinity loop. |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/3/2007 12:24:12 PM | message detail |
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Gordon is still consistently extending his lead on Ike and is cutting into Duke. If anyones winning the ASV its him. --- Demyx is better than Axel. I don't like Haley Scarnato |
| Lopen | Posted 10/3/2007 12:24:55 PM | message detail |
| Ike doing not as well, Gordon and Duke doing
better... it really doesn't matter which is the cause. The point is
it's significantly different than the morning was. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/3/2007 12:25:21 PM | message detail |
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Except it's not significantly different. It's like, different by less than 2%. --- This story is not an end yet. Because only you are in the infinity loop. |
| Lopen | Posted 10/3/2007 12:25:52 PM | message detail |
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Of course this still isn't the full blown after school vote yet, so I should just watch and wait here. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/3/2007 12:26:11 PM | message detail |
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Well, yeah, if we're talking about actual *votes* (in which case we
have things like Crono winning the day vote over Master Chief)... man,
we really need a term to differentiate who wins the day most in
relation to the night as opposed to who just gets the most votes during
the day... --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| Lopen | Posted 10/3/2007 12:29:19 PM | message detail |
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Time...Milkem....Ike...........Failman...Guybrush 07:00 | 27.13% | 31.93% | 27.78% | 13.17% 08:00 | 28.71% | 30.17% | 28.24% | 12.88% Duke's doing a good 2%+ better, as is Freeman. A 4%+ swing of votes is a pretty significant distinction. If anything this is closer to the power hour than the morning vote. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/3/2007 12:30:13 PM | message detail |
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...you're reaching, Lopes. --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| Haste_2 | Posted 10/3/2007 12:30:39 PM | message detail |
| There's never a need to say the stronger character
is winning the day vote. There's no need to say Gordon is winning the
day vote. One should merely say Ike > Gordon > Duke with the day
vote (obviously by how the percentages are changing), and then take
note at who's cutting into the lead. 'nuff said. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| transience | Posted 10/3/2007 12:30:47 PM | message detail |
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Lopen's got Duke in his bracket - this is just how he rolls! --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
| Lopen | Posted 10/3/2007 12:33:10 PM | message detail |
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I don't care if Duke starts losing the ASV, he's got 1000 votes on
Freeman and 3000 on Ike, he's not in any danger. I'm just saying at the
moment he's not. This is just a glorified stall. I don't know why you people can't see the difference between Ike cutting 100 votes in the morning with a half an hour and Ike cutting 6 votes with the ASV with higher votals, but whatever. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| Lopen | Posted 10/3/2007 12:35:14 PM | message detail |
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Actually he might be in slight danger of Freeman, but I'm still not concerned yet. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/3/2007 12:35:48 PM | message detail |
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If Gordon could consistently get updates like that he could win this.
Unfortunately he'll probably go back to his 3 vote cuts again. --- Demyx is better than Axel. I don't like Haley Scarnato |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/3/2007 12:36:09 PM | message detail |
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Morning vote average Time...Milkem....Ike...........Failman...Guybrush 00:00 | 27.92% | 31.05% | 28.01% | 13.02% Past 30 minutes Time...Milkem....Ike...........Failman...Guybrush 00:00 | 28.98% | 30.38% | 30.07% | 10.57% Duke and Ike are within random variance. Stuff varies by a % even in back-to-back ASV. The only real issue here is Freeman improving more at the cost of Guybrush. It's really not that different. If you're going to locate a 2.5% disparity and use it to say that the morning is useless for predicting the ASV then you be one crazy guy --- This story is not an end yet. Because only you are in the infinity loop. |
| Lopen | Posted 10/3/2007 12:38:37 PM | message detail |
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I'm not saying it's useless at all. I'm just saying they're not the same thing. They have the same general
trend but usually one is notably stronger than the other. I'm just
tired of seeing people see a guy whip ass in the morning and saying "if
this is any indication of the day vote he wins!" --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/3/2007 12:39:31 PM | message detail |
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And I don't think the morning vote accurately predicts the ASV all the
time. It's just a rough indicator. Like, you see someone improve with
it over the night, you know that guy will probably do fairly well with
the ASV too. There are tons of examples where they're fairly different
from each other. I'm just confused on why you're trying to use this match as an example for that, when the morning vote and ASV are actually more similar than in most matches --- This story is not an end yet. Because only you are in the infinity loop. |
| MnMZero | Posted 10/3/2007 12:41:09 PM | message detail |
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COME GET SOME! --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| Lady Ashe | Posted 10/3/2007 12:41:32 PM | message detail |
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guybrush > link ~~~ Ashe. The Cream of Final Fantasy Fanboyism. http://www.destructoid.com/elephant//ul/9855-550x-contra-poster-2-dsf.jpg |
