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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 505

smitelf | Posted 10/1/2007 6:26:54 PM | message detail
From trannyscience
new game's a 360 game.

Are we talking about Sigma or Ninja Gaiden 2? NG2 isn't even out yet, so I don't see what it could have to do with anything.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/1/2007 6:28:03 PM | message detail
oh, when you said "new game" I thought you meant NG2. Sigma's on the ps3, ayup. and it's hardly new.
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smitelf | Posted 10/1/2007 6:29:24 PM | message detail
It wasn't out for the last contest, so it's new for our purposes, I guess.
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ZFS | Posted 10/1/2007 6:30:15 PM | message detail
Heh. I just noticed that Aeris' percentage isn't too far off from that one...thing, whatever it was, that showed that 24% or 25% of this site thinks FF7 is the best game ever. Thought that was kinda interesting.

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charmander6000 | Posted 10/1/2007 6:39:51 PM | message detail
Match XXX: Albert Wesker vs Daxter vs Lara Croft vs Sora

Information

Name: Albert Wesker
Game/Series From: Resident Evil series
Past Contests: VC2k5, CB2k5
Wins: Luca Blight (VC)
Losses: Kefka (VC), Lloyd (2k5)

Name: Daxter
Game/Series From: Jak & Daxter series
Past Contests: None
Wins: N/A
Losses: N/A

Name: Lara Croft
Game/Series From: Tomb Raider series
Past Contests: CB2k2, CB2k3, CB2k4, CB2k6
Wins: Chop Chop Master Onion (2k2), Ryo (2k2), Alyx Vance (2k6)
Losses: Crono (2k2), Zelda (2k3), Samus (2k4), Chun-Li (2k6)

Name: Sora
Game/Series From: Kingdom Hearts series
Past Contests: CB2k3, CB2k4, CB2k5, CB2k6
Wins: HK-47 (2k4), Ryu Hayabusa (2k4), Agent 47 (2k5), Alucard (2k5), Tingle (2k6), Gordon Freeman (2k6)
Losses: Aeris (2k3), Samus (2k4), Solid Snake (2k5), Mega Man (2k6)

Analysis

We’re at the home stretch for this round there have been some upsets and boring matches, but I don’t think anyone disagrees if I say this already has been one of the best contests if not the best contest in GameFAQs history. Today’s match doesn’t seem too hard to predict, first and second are far away from each other and third so unless Daxter is close to Jak in strength I think we’re in for another boring match.

Sora will take first with ease, not only is he a near-elite but his next strongest opponent is a low mid-carder. In this match Sora has to prove that he is capable of coming in second last round in a match of three strong Square characters. The last time he was in a Square match he got SFF badly (funny enough that character will be in the poll next round) however Sora has had Kingdom Hearts 2 since then so maybe he’ll do better next round.

Lara may have more problems getting second than Sora, but that doesn’t mean she’s going to lose. Lara has come a long way from her crushing defeat in 2k4 (which Wesker only wins there 52/48). Like all the other females not in Samus’ division the stats greatly overrate her, however even using 2k5 Yuna which I think is Yuna’s base still puts Lara way over Wesker. Also the Tomb Raider series has a new game, Tomb Raider Anniversary and even if it isn’t as big as Legend was it can still help her. Maybe it’ll help her steal second with three Square characters stealing votes from each other, probably not.

Continuing Wesker will take third. He was a hyped character back in the villain’s contest until he was destroyed by Kefka’s sprite, now he is just another fodder. Wesker lost to Lloyd and I’d take Lara to beat Lloyd without too much trouble. I don’t expect him to have much of a problem with Daxter sure I’d take Jak to beat him, but I don’t think Daxter will be anything other than pure fodder.

I don’t know how he got into this contest, but I do know that Daxter will take last. Jak isn’t that strong so Daxter is going to be much weaker. He’ll probably avoid getting last out of the 128 characters, but he won’t be getting that much higher.

Sora easily takes first while Lara takes second. This division seems easier to predict than the last four divisions. There are some hard matches coming up soon so maybe the difficulty will rise.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Sora > Lara Croft

charmander6000’s Prediction: Sora - 41.73%, Lara Croft - 28.88%, Wesker - 19.73%, Daxter - 9.66%

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Match 29: Squall > Aeris Points: 82/112
smitelf | Posted 10/1/2007 6:41:15 PM | message detail
We're you expecting Squall to destroy Aeris with SFF?

Not destroy, but the relative ratio of the two is bothering me. Either Squall should be doing better or Aeris should be doing worse. As it is, Aeris is getting over 40% of the Squall + Aeris total, which makes me think that Aeris's fanbase might be separated enough from Squall's for her to come out better against him than Sora. Just look at Squall pre- and post-KH; he's a different animal. Makes me think that Sora could be hurt badly by his presence in the match, whereas Aeris has just proven that she can hold up okay.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/1/2007 6:43:23 PM | message detail
well, Squall is right where I pegged him, Aeris is only 2% lower, and I still have Aeris to round 3. I don't think we can draw conclusions here without knowing what Sora is going to do. even after tomorrow, we won't know either - that's a huge SFF match. to be honest, I'm not counting Lara out of that match either.
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smitelf | Posted 10/1/2007 6:46:51 PM | message detail
well, Squall is right where I pegged him, Aeris is only 2% lower, and I still have Aeris to round 3.

Heh, when I look at my oracle prediction, Aeris is right where I put her, and Squall is ~3% lower. I guess it's less that it's so unexpected and more that I should have thought this out better before making my bracket pick << Oh well, it's not like Sora has no chance, I just think he looks likely to get SFF'd worse than Aeris...
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emanresU weN | Posted 10/1/2007 6:48:16 PM | message detail
Sigma sold horribly. I'd wouldn't consider it when trying to compute Ryu's boost.

The game sold over 500,000 copies in its first few weeks, hardly what I would call horrible. It's probably the best selling PS3 game by now.

Ninja Gaiden DS might bring some Nintendo fans to vote for him as well.
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smitelf | Posted 10/1/2007 6:50:40 PM | message detail
I don't trust people with backward usernames, so I will have to assume that Sigma actually sold 000,005 copies.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/1/2007 6:52:26 PM | message detail
Sigma did not sell 500k. It SHIPPED 500k.
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emanresU weN | Posted 10/1/2007 6:54:35 PM | message detail
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emanresU weN | Posted 10/1/2007 6:55:03 PM | message detail
Still that was only in its first few weeks.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/1/2007 6:56:50 PM | message detail
The game sold over 500,000 copies in its first few weeks, hardly what I would call horrible.

What in the blue vgchartz are you talking about?
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Aeris/Akuma/Geno/Squall - Bracket: Squall > Aeris - Vote: Squall (93/112)
wavedash101 | Posted 10/1/2007 6:56:54 PM | message detail
NGS is under 500k WW and I think it sold a majority of its copies in Japan
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emanresU weN | Posted 10/1/2007 6:57:54 PM | message detail
Google it you internet noobs.
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emanresU weN | Posted 10/1/2007 6:59:13 PM | message detail
I'm fairly certain that if the game shipped 500,000 copies in its first few weeks then it has surely sold at least that many 6 weeks later.
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/1/2007 7:00:47 PM | message detail
Just because you ship 500k doesnt mean you sell that...especially since nobody has reported a second shipment...there is such a thing as overshipping

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/1/2007 7:01:02 PM | message detail
According to NPD (and even though I can't remember, HM can clarify cause I know he has the stuff saved), Sigma sold 63K the first couple of days, and failed to crack the Top 10 the following month (this I'm not too sure on).

I'm positive though sales are at most ~200K in the US.
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Aeris/Akuma/Geno/Squall - Bracket: Squall > Aeris - Vote: Squall (93/112)
emanresU weN | Posted 10/1/2007 7:24:47 PM | message detail
D'oh I have Wesker in second tomorrow, there goes my shot at the leaderboard (and I was so close).
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crazyisgood | Posted 10/1/2007 7:25:12 PM | message detail
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/1/2007 7:31:22 PM | message detail
I was reading over Ulti's analysis and once he brought up Wesker's Mercenaries Theme, I realized that I had a duty to vote for Wesker.
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Aeris/Akuma/Geno/Squall - Bracket: Squall > Aeris - Vote: Squall (93/112)
RPGuy96 | Posted 10/1/2007 7:34:09 PM | message detail
I can't find NPD sales numbers for Ninja Gaiden Sigma since it debuted at 18th in July and most news sites only focus on the top 10. 10th best selling Guitar Hero II (360) was at 108k and NGS was under such luminaries as Transformers and Ratatouille (as well as year old NSMB). So I wouldn't bet the farm on Sigma being significant in yesterday's results.
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ZFS | Posted 10/1/2007 7:37:22 PM | message detail
Yeah. Sigma wasn't even in the top 20 for the month of August.

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/1/2007 7:37:46 PM | message detail
I can't find NPD sales numbers for Ninja Gaiden Sigma since it debuted at 18th in July and most news sites only focus on the top 10.

Leaked numbers (Top 5 or 10 per console I think) were posted in the GAF thread for a short while.
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Aeris/Akuma/Geno/Squall - Bracket: Squall > Aeris - Vote: Squall (93/112)
Master Moltar | Posted 10/1/2007 7:52:24 PM | message detail
Division 8: Round 1 - Match 30 – Albert Wesker vs. Daxter vs. Lara vs. Sora

Moltar’s Analysis

Wesker
Game/Series Known From: Resident Evil
Seed in 2005: 7
Lost in 2005 to Lloyd in Round 1

Gotta love the shades

Daxter
Game/Series Known From: Jak and Daxter

Hopes he does better than his partner.

Lara
Game/Series Known From: Tomb Raider
Seed in 2002: 1
Seed in 2003: 7
Seed in 2004: 15
Seed in 2006: 2
Lost in 2002 to Crono in Round 3
Lost in 2003 to Max in Round 1
Lost in 2004 to Samus in Round 1
Lost in 2006 to Chun-Li in Round 2

Aww yeah

Sora
Game/Series Known From: Kingdom Hearts
Seed in 2003: 6
Seed in 2004: 6
Seed in 2005: 2
Seed in 2006: 1
Lost in 2003 to Aeris in Round 1
Lost in 2004 to Samus in Round 3
Lost in 2005 to Solid Snake in Round 3
Lost in 2006 to Mega Man in Round 3

Didn’t you just have a match?

A rare easy Round 1 match. I mean, you should be able to nab four points just thinking 2 seconds about the match. First, a couple words about the losers. First up there’s Wesker. His only win is against Luca, and he’s lost to Lloyd. Then there’s Daxter. Jak was in Lloyd’s fourpack and came behind Lloyd. Daxter is likely to be weaker than Jak as well. These two take 3rd and 4th respectably.

Then there’s Sora and Lara. Sora’s been looking better and better over the years thanks to the KH franchise becoming bigger and bigger. Lara’s been looking weaker and weaker over the years thanks…wait what? Oh yeah, she actually didn’t do too badly in 2006. Still, Sora would stomp Chun-Li, and Chun-Li beat Lara. Even if you take the format into account, it doesn’t help Lara topple Sora, or even come close. Most boring Round 1 match behind DK/Kratos/blah confirmed.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Sora > Lara > Wesker > Daxter

Moltar’s Prediction is: Sora: 45% - Lara: 28% - Wesker: 16% - Daxter: 11%



Ultimaterializer’s Analysis

I was 100% sure that this match would be Sora > Lara in a snooze, but after being a lot of these first round matches, the female half of the bracket should be thrown out of the stats entirely. It's too ****ed up and unreliable.

On a related note, maybe they overrate Lara Croft to hell and back and will allow Wesker to sneak into second place. God damn would I love that; he's only the best character in RE4 Mercs with the best theme ever. Someone also needs to explain to me how Daxter made it into a bracket before Clank. You people are on some kinda crack, I tells ya.

Sora > Lara is the safe pick for a reason, but Wesker deserves second place (first, technically) more than anyone else in this match. And I'm a *huge* Kingdom Hearts fan.

Ulti:s Prediction:

Sora [38.00%]
Lara Croft [25.00%]
Wesker [22.00%]
Daxter [15.00%]



Heroic Mario’s Analysis

Sora – 44%
Lara Croft – 25%
Wesker – 17%
Daxter – 14%


I’m not even sure what to say about this match, other than that it sucks more than any other first round match in the division. There’s not much you can take away from this unless Sora just obliterates this pack with over 50% or something. Everyone here is either fodder or close to fodder. It’s just a very boring match with a pretty predictable outcome -- Sora in first, Lara in second. I could maybe see Wesker pulling something off here, but with the way non-RE4 RE characters have performed so far, it’s safe to say that Lara will be fine.

Bracket: Sora > Lara
Vote: Lara Croft
Master Moltar | Posted 10/1/2007 7:53:13 PM | message detail
Yoblazer’s Analysis

This match ain't much to write home about, so I'm going to try to make it short. I've read some differing opinions, but I feel this match is about as rigged for Sora as you can get. His competition is such that if he doesn't dominate with no questions asked, there will be, uhh, questions asked. Win one for this sad panda of a Kingdom Hearts fan, Keyblade wielder!

Sora's competitors are Albert Wesker, the beloved Resident Evil villain and manipulator-behind-the-scenes extraordinaire, Daxter from the Jak and Daxter series, and Tomb Raider's buxom beauty, Lara Croft. All three of these entrants are pretty darn weak, tbqh. Lara has an ugly track record and hit her prime about ten years ago, Daxter is the bottom-of-the-barrel platform sidekick fodder that nobody cares about, and Wesker, the only one with any semblance of a devoted fanbase, seems to have nothing but that tiny devoted fanbase, and that won't win you matches in a setting where 120,000+ votes are the norm.

So, Sora takes first, and he'd better do it in impressive fashion or people will jump off the Squall > Sora > Aeris argument in droves. As for second, I think Lara is the clear favorite. She'll beat Daxter without a problem, and as kickass as it would be, I don't feel Wesker's very niche group of diehards will prove mighty enough to conquer Lara's mainstream appeal, recent resurgence, and appealing breasts. This could make for one boring wait before Freeman takes the spotlight. *sigh*

Sora - 44%
Lara Croft - 24%
Albert Wesker - 20%
Daxter - 12%



Lopen’s Analysis

What. What.

How did both Playstation Platforming Character #25 and his sidekick Playstation Platforming Character #26 manage to get into this damn contest? Well whatever, man, that dingo shaped #26 is much weaker than #25, and that's saying something. He's goin down.

Now Wesker... Wesker wears sunglasses. Even at night. That's going to account for something. This match pic is dark so he'll have maximum synergy here. The reason he did so poorly against against Kefka? His mortal enemy the sun was in full force. A Wesker that has a reason to wear his sunglasses is an unhappy Wesker. Then again, we've got Sora here to rant about lights that never go out and suddenly Wesker's unhappy again. Oh dear, there go his chances.

Lara didn't look too bad in the female contest (DON'T TRUST IT), so even though it's dark around here, she should have enough in her to beat Wesker. I mean, I said don't trust them, but trust em a little, at least. Wesker's not a hard target to beat, especially when he's being lectured about lights that never go out. And... I think Tomb Raider: Some Other Game came out since the last contest, meaning she might get a boost of some sort. I really don't know, nor do I care much.

Last but not least: Sora, your champion. I think Sora might be a little more spicy in this contest... since Tingle (AGH WHY DIDN'T SORA KILL HIM 100-0) supports he probably gets anti-voted often.

Lopen's prediction:

Sora - 48.03%
Lara Croft - 27.45%
Wesker - 16.55%
Playstation Platforming Character #26 - 7.97%



Karma Hunter’s Analysis

Another weak threepack with a clear dominating presence. You'd think we'd HAVE to run out of these sooner or later...

Albert Wesker

Awesomely bad fan-favorite from the RE series with a contest track record that's just plain bad. When you've gone out to Kefka putting up 70% on you and Lloyd Irving getting 55% on you, you're in trouble. But is his fanbase enough to allow him a fighting chance against these scrubs?

Daxter

The fan-favorite, quippy little sidekick in the Jak series. I love the little guy, but... look at how Jak did. Now consider that it's Daxter. Uh oh...
Master Moltar | Posted 10/1/2007 7:53:45 PM | message detail
Lara Croft

The once-icon returns again from her 2k6 showing, a contest where she... didn't... disappoint in? However, looking at the overrating from her quarter of hte bracket, she's not as impressive as she seems. A big favorite to come in second, though... she just has to hold on to those casual fans against the aforementioned pathetic competition and...

Sora

Fresh off a weird-as-hell KH2 run, Sora has to show us good things in this fourpack if we're to believe he can make the third round - 'specially after what Riku and Roxas pulled (and by that I mean being unable to beat Ryu Hayabusa combined). Sora has this pack well in hand, but how high (or low) can he go?

Sora wins... and I'm calling for him to impress, something he usually doesn't do in Round 1 matches. I think this format will favor his type of voter, who while not as large in number seem to stick by him in a significant number even when he gets SFFed. Next round may be a different story, of course...

As for second, I have Wesker here... but I'm not gonna stick with it. RE characters outside of 4 have done very little this contest (and as cool as he is in it, too many people are compeletely unaware Wesker was even *in* RE4). Wesker should have the most hardcore fanbase relative to his actual strength, but said strength is so low that his chances are minimal. He'll have to get by on Lara's weakness... and while it's easy to scoff at people voting for Lara Croft over multiple entrants, just look at the competition. I'll go with her here (and cheer like crazy if Wesker pulls the upset).

Karma Hunter's Vote: Albert Wesker. Sure he's weaker than Lloyd Irving in a contest setting... but look at the power he's gained!
Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Sora with 47%, Lara Croft with 24.5%, Albert Wesker with 19.5%, Daxter with 10%

...yeah, you'd *better* impress, Sora.

Upset Probability: 20%

I feel that the 'hardcore fanbase' theory has gotten a bad rap this contest... a lot of the time it's been 'disproven' has been on the back of untested characters, and there's a decent amount of results that support it enough. I'm not gonna bank on it here like I was pre-contest, but Wesker winning here shouldn't be an impossibility.

...well it shouldn't...



Transience’s Analysis

man, I didn't even know Daxter was in this thing.

this match is really simple. Wesker's got that hardcore fanbase, but he seems like another Vyse to me - a weak character that will bomb just like always. on the other hand, characters like Lara have been doing great this year. and Daxter.. yeah. sorry, I don't even know what to say here. I guess Wesker has a shot, but not much of one. call it the tran curse if I'm wrong here. I was three votes away from becoming the next Slowflake!

Daxter and Wesker?
Round 1 is almost over
less crap to sift through

transience's prediction: Sora with 45.55%, Lara with 28.55%, Wesker with 17.55%, Daxter with 8.45%



Crew Consensus: Sora > Lara yawn
BDawg | Posted 10/1/2007 8:17:06 PM | message detail
It's pretty amazing Aeris' lead has been between 3200 and 3400 since 4 pm.
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Kyle Bowen | Posted 10/1/2007 8:24:29 PM | message detail
I feel better.

Sonic > Squall going out of this division.


Even with Sora in the same match, I dont think think he leech enough to turn around 12,500 votes.


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trannyscience | Posted 10/1/2007 8:26:31 PM | message detail
stupid bold prediction for no reason: Lara scares the hell out of us and people will start considering Squall > Lara a few minutes into the match.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/1/2007 8:27:35 PM | message detail
squall > daxter book it
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2007 8:29:35 PM | message detail
Looking at the Auron/Ganondorf/Squall/Bowser fourpack, why all the Squall hate? The man went even with Vincent in 2k5, and through the 2k6 stats looks really close to Vincent, closer than Ganondorf for sure. I'd say that fourpack would be Squall > Ganondorf > Auron > Bowser

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therealmnm | Posted 10/1/2007 8:30:31 PM | message detail
Massive Daxter underestimation in this topic!

Oh, and I say again that pure sales number aren't the only thing that determine how much of an impact Ninja Gaiden Sigma could have on Ryu's popularity...
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smitelf | Posted 10/1/2007 8:30:53 PM | message detail
I agree with BT.

...Oh. My. Gawd.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2007 8:30:56 PM | message detail
I was actually thinking earlier about Lara's chances. Aeris folded under SFF pressure, and we saw Sora fold once to Aeris already. I'm hoping KH2 makes him a bit more SFF resistant than last time, because I'd definitely take Lara over Akuma.

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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/1/2007 8:31:05 PM | message detail
Squall losing his KH support because of Auron? o.O
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/1/2007 8:31:06 PM | message detail
bubububut no one likes PS3!
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Wesker/Daxter/Lara/Sora - Bracket: Sora > Lara - Vote: Wesker (97/116)
MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/1/2007 8:33:39 PM | message detail
If Akuma could somehow reach 23% by the end of this it'd be a pretty good accomplishment.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/1/2007 8:35:47 PM | message detail
So tomorrow's matchup is gonna be the most boring of the contest. Book it.
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Lopen | Posted 10/1/2007 8:36:33 PM | message detail
I'm pretty sure Akuma would deal with Lara fairly easily.

I'm still unsure Akuma's weaker than Chun Li.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/1/2007 8:44:06 PM | message detail
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? TOMORROW'S MATCH HAS GOT ME PUMPED! WOO SORA, WOO LARA KRAFT CHEESE! I'M SO EXCITED I CAN BARELY CONTAIN MY ELECTION! DAXDAXDAXDAXTER!!!!
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Wesker/Daxter/Lara/Sora - Bracket: Sora > Lara - Vote: Wesker (97/116)
Lopen | Posted 10/1/2007 8:44:07 PM | message detail
I mean, looking at this in traditional terms, Akuma made this very close:

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=2891&num=2

Squall hurt Aeris, no doubt. But how much? I would be pretty surprised if Akuma fell below 40% against Aeris 1v1. And looking at the female bracket last year, Chun Li got 40% on Yuna who was beaten by Aeris.

I think I've reevaluated my position on Akuma:

Ryu > Ken > Akuma > Chun Li/Bison is what I'd bet on at this point.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2007 8:44:12 PM | message detail
Round 1- Division 8 Group B

Characters Involved:

Albert Wesker


Spring 2005 Contest
Ruin Division - 5 Seed

Ruin Round 1 --- Defeated (4) Luca Blight, 36560 [59.74%] - 24634 [40.26%]
Ruin Semifinal --- Lost to (1) Kefka, 23012 [29.63%] - 54640 [70.37%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 25th Place [15.85%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Mushroom Division - 7 Seed

Mushroom Round 1 --- Lost to (2) Lloyd Irving, 38421 [45.31%] - 46373 [54.69%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 61st Place [14.26%]


The man is a jobber, despite coming from the successful Resident Evil series. I mean, look at that. He let Kefka break 70% on him. Yeah, he's no threat here.

Daxter

He's Jak's sidekick. The Jak that got beat by Lloyd Irving. Yeah, I think it's safe to say this joke gets last place

Lara Croft

Summer 2002 Contest
East Division - 1 Seed

Eastern Round 1 --- Defeated (16) Chop Chop Master Onion, 44737 [69.63%] - 19512 [30.37%]
Eastern Quarterfinal --- Defeated (8) Ryu Hazuki, 36308 [59.38%] - 24834 [40.62%]
Eastern Semifinal --- Lost to (5) Crono, 21571 [29.13%] - 52488 [70.87%]
Extrepolated Strength --- 27th Place [21.80%]

Summer 2003 Contest
West Division - 7 Seed

Western Round 1 --- Lost to (10) Zelda, 42940 [37.71%] - 70941 [62.29%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 37th Place [22.11%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Chaos Division - 15 Seed

Chaos Round 1 --- Lost to (2) Samus, 14721 [17.61%] - 68889 [82.39%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 53rd Place [13.91%]

Summer 2006 Contest
Aeon Division - 2 Seed

Aeon Round 1 --- Defeated (7) Alyx Vance, 75464 [77.55%] - 21850 [22.45%]
Aeon Semifinal --- Lost to (3) Chun-Li, 51338 [44.46%] - 64126 [55.54%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 35th Place [26.77%]


Normally, I'd just write Lara off here, but she actually managed to perform decently last year. Was that a result of her high seed? Or did the latest Tomb Raider games give her an ounce of her former credibility back?

Sora

Summer 2003 Contest
East Division - 6 Seed

Eastern Round 1 --- Lost to (11) Aeris, 32614 [33.34%] - 65196 [66.66%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 39th Place [21.17%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Chaos Division - 6 Seed

Chaos Round 1 --- Defeated (11) HK-47, 54034 [65.55%] - 28392 [34.45%]
Chaos Quarterfinal --- Defeated (3) Ryu Hayabusa, 49626 [61.72%] - 30773 [38.28%]
Chaos Semifinal --- Lost to (2) Samus, 29880 [34.15%] - 57627 [65.85%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 21st Place [26.97%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Gear Division - 2 Seed

Gear Round 1 --- Defeated (7) Agent 47, 62348 [70.73%] - 25796 [29.27%]
Gear Semifinal --- Defeated (6) Alucard, 53320 [55.36%] - 43002 [44.64%]
Gear Final --- Lost to (1) Solid Snake, 33887 [34.74%] - 63664 [65.26%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 32nd Place [23.54%]

Summer 2006 Contest
Destiny Division - 1 Seed

Destiny Round 1 --- Defeated (8) Tingle, 93568 [75.61%] - 30176 [24.39%]
Destiny Semifinal --- Defeated (5) Gordon Freeman, 77994 [63.93%] - 43996 [36.07%]
Destiny Final --- Lost to (2) Mega Man, 61167 [45.72%] - 72630 [54.28%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 15th Place [38.30%]


Sora has come a long way in these contests. From getting doubled by Aeris to getting 45% on Mega Man, Sora has been on the rise, and after Kingdom Hearts 3, I would take him to dance with the elites. A lot of people considered his match with MM a fluke last year, but then Snake proved that Mega Man didn't drop at all by scoring a similar percentage on Sonic. Sora seems at least somewhat legit last year, and certainly legit enough to dominate this fourpack.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2007 8:44:23 PM | message detail
Predictions:

A very easy match, and barring anything ridiculous, should be Sora > Lara by a good margin. The real thing to watch for is to see if Sora can prove his match against Mega Man was legit. I'm of the school of thought that it was legit, and Mega Man stayed constant from 2k5 to 2k6, so I have faith that Sora can impress here.

TuRtLe's Prediction: Sora 51%, Lara 20%, Wesker 16%, Daxter 13%
TuRtLe's Bracket: Sora > Lara
TuRtLe's Vote: *abstain*

TuRtLe
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87/112 in the contest. Next pick: Squall > Aeris
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BesaidGuy | Posted 10/1/2007 8:45:19 PM | message detail
I have Sora>Squall

I feel like none of the FF outside of FF7 are holding water, and I feel even FF7 is losing .0001% of its luster each year. Meanwhile, the KHF has shown it's ridiculousness.

In the first KH, Squall played a major part in the beginning, so you could say he got a bigger KH boost than almost any other FF character.

I have a feeling Sora goes over 50% after the KH day vote

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/1/2007 8:46:33 PM | message detail
Sora overperform against fodder?

what is this bizzarofaqs?
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Wesker/Daxter/Lara/Sora - Bracket: Sora > Lara - Vote: Wesker (97/116)
BesaidGuy | Posted 10/1/2007 8:52:12 PM | message detail
Let me rephrase before I get a bunch of sarcastic comments.

I feel Sora is going to Noble Nine perform on this fodder
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2007 8:52:45 PM | message detail
Once again, Squall got 57% on Solid Snake last year.

Mega Man and Sonic both managed 55%.

He and Vincent are damn near equal as the top 2 non Noble Niners.

How the hell can you justify Sora > Squall?

TuRtLe
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87/112 in the contest. Next pick: Squall > Aeris
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/1/2007 8:53:45 PM | message detail
Squall may be getting more votes against Aeris than he should, but Aeris also brought Squall/Geno from a 75/25 match to a 69/31 match. Not that big of a difference, but with two Sqaure characters in third round Sub-Zero could give us a scare if he wasn't overrated last year.

Sub-Zero takes at least third over Aeris/Sora!
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Match 29: Squall > Aeris Points: 82/112
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