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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 505
| Kyle Bowen | Posted 10/1/2007 3:26:07 PM | message detail |
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also shouldnt you have put the emphasis on garbage that didnt really work for me Dammit! I knew I did something wrong. I will try harder next time! KB |
| Lady Ashe | Posted 10/1/2007 3:30:44 PM | message detail |
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From PortugalTheMann Posted 10/1/2007 6:22:12 PM #198 also shouldnt you have put the emphasis on garbage that didnt really work for me It should have been on "Your", actually. ~~~ Ashe. The Cream of Final Fantasy Fanboyism. http://www.destructoid.com/elephant//ul/9855-550x-contra-poster-2-dsf.jpg |
| Lady Ashe | Posted 10/1/2007 3:31:29 PM | message detail |
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...Rather, on "Your opinions". Maybe italicized instead of capitalized. ~~~ Ashe. The Cream of Final Fantasy Fanboyism. http://www.destructoid.com/elephant//ul/9855-550x-contra-poster-2-dsf.jpg |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/1/2007 3:38:30 PM | message detail |
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i didnt realize it was a retort at first, i stand corrected --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| Keno316 | Posted 10/1/2007 3:46:32 PM | message detail |
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Man...why is it that according to arguments here, any characters with
the slightest connection to each other are suddenly capable heavily
SFFing? Yeah lets stop nominating "excellent characters" and just nominate characters that will do excellent in a poll, why haven't Epona, Saria, Taloon and the rest of the FFVII cast not been in a contest yet? Malon would beat out all of them combined. --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB *Claims KG's Eclair, C.C. & Tear Grants* |
| Gaddswell | Posted 10/1/2007 3:50:07 PM | message detail |
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Finally caught up. From BlAcK TuRtLe 3 fodder? Zero's fourpack is 2 low midcarders and a high fodder character. Uh... didn't you say before that ToS characters suck and that they should never be nominated again? --- Finally a damn bracket! http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2636/ivotedphoenixyi0.png |
| Keno316 | Posted 10/1/2007 3:50:50 PM | message detail |
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Shhh....BT Logic... --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB *Claims KG's Eclair, C.C. & Tear Grants* |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/1/2007 3:51:48 PM | message detail |
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whoa, talk about bending reality to fit your expectations --- | |_ . . ___| |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/1/2007 3:54:31 PM | message detail |
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i bend reality to fit my wang i bend it small --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| Kyle Bowen | Posted 10/1/2007 3:54:59 PM | message detail |
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Over or Under Squall beats Aeris by 10% KB |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/1/2007 3:58:26 PM | message detail |
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Over --- The apples were too strong for him.- Abomstar |
| smitelf | Posted 10/1/2007 4:16:30 PM | message detail |
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He got 46%, and outdid Roxas and Riku combined. There's no chance in
hell Riku is getting 100% of Roxas' votes, and he pretty much needs to,
to do better than Ryu. No, not really, since Snake and Nightmare are also in the poll, and I expect that they'll take more votes from Ryu than from Riku. Throw in the fact that we've seen Snake/Sora go funky as **** before, and there's no reason to feel good about Riku's chances next round. I'm not saying Riku is a lock at all, but I'm confident enough that I wouldn't change my pick at this point. I feel there's good reason for Ryu's overperformance, namely that the competition's fanbases didn't overlap with his at all, while Riku couldn't possibly have had a worse draw. The next match will be more in Riku's favor and less in Ryu's. It'll definitely be closer than I initially expected, though. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/1/2007 4:24:10 PM | message detail |
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Ryu H. is a virtual lock to win. Only people's brackets are giving
people reason to doubt there. Overlap be damned, Ryu H. got 45% against
ALL of the characters in that match (and again, the belief that Roxas -
let alone Haseo
- is pulling in an 80% overlap with Riku is just wrong). Now take into
account that whatever similarities Snake/Nightmare and Ryu have pale in
comparison to Snake's Playstation dominance over Riku, and that the
Soul Calibur PS fanbase has a bigger presence here than the Xbox one... ...I have Snake > Riku, and I prefer Riku to everyone in that match but Snake. But let's be realistic. I'd expect Snake > Nightmare again before Snake > Riku. --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/1/2007 4:29:30 PM | message detail |
| I think clinging to Snake > Riku is to cling to
pre-contest expectations (or brackets). there's really no reason to
believe that's the way it will go down. it'd be a huge upset after that
round 1 thrashing. --- | |_ . . ___| |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/1/2007 4:33:44 PM | message detail |
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Solid > Riku > Hayabusa will still be considered as a viable
possibility by many people until the day their match goes down...unless
Sora flops tomorrow. If that happens, THEN Riku will be doomed...moreso
than before, somehow. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| wavedash101 | Posted 10/1/2007 4:34:42 PM | message detail |
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can the Ryu boost be explained? --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Annoying posters! I am the great wavedash! [no u cru] |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/1/2007 4:38:06 PM | message detail |
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SFF from Dante, Sigma, and Xbox dominance in this format. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| Kyle Bowen | Posted 10/1/2007 4:43:40 PM | message detail |
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Put these characters in order please. Squall Auron Gannondorf Bowser. KB |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/1/2007 4:44:38 PM | message detail |
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sure Auron Bowser. Gannondorf Squall Bowser should be higher for having a random period --- | |_ . . ___| |
| BesaidGuy | Posted 10/1/2007 4:47:05 PM | message detail |
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Hey Turtle, I don't know if anyone has ever told you this, but, it is
more admirable to let others speak of your accomplishments instead of
you doing so yourself. So you guessed something right, congratulations, no one here cares to be notified of it. --- FuturamandFFX/TheRealoSix AndyManCan's favorite user |
| swirIdude | Posted 10/1/2007 4:47:36 PM | message detail |
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Ganondorf Auron Bowser Squall If they were in a 4-way poll: Auron Ganondorf Squall Bowser --- http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2636/ivotedphoenixyi0.png Squall > Sora is a lock. ~Lady Ashe |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/1/2007 4:50:34 PM | message detail |
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cucumbers, pickles, celery, carrots go. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| smitelf | Posted 10/1/2007 4:55:25 PM | message detail |
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Ryu H. is a virtual lock to win. Only people's brackets are giving people reason to doubt there. Oh pfft, I don't care about my bracket, I already know my round 2 is too screwed up for me to win. I just don't see what's so convincing about Ryu H.'s win when he was a) the only non-JRPG character and b) Riku was up against a character from the same game. It's a nice win, but it's not that definitive to me. Overlap be damned, Ryu H. got 45% against ALL of the characters in that match (and again, the belief that Roxas - let alone Haseo - is pulling in an 80% overlap with Riku is just wrong). I would be shocked if Roxas wasn't pulling a 95%+ overlap with Riku. Haseo, I don't know, but certainly overlap with a fellow JRPG character is more likely than an overlap with a fighting game character. Now take into account that whatever similarities Snake/Nightmare and Ryu have pale in comparison to Snake's Playstation dominance over Riku, and that the Soul Calibur PS fanbase has a bigger presence here than the Xbox one... I think it's a mistake to think that fanbases are divided by consoles in that way. I don't see how it's ever been borne out in the matches. ...I have Snake > Riku, and I prefer Riku to everyone in that match but Snake. But let's be realistic. I'd expect Snake > Nightmare again before Snake > Riku. That seems pretty bizarre to me. Nightmare has no chance, while Riku is far from a lost cause when you consider the factors that were overwhelmingly in Ryu H.'s favor. I really don't get the massive jumping of the Riku-ship, but we'll see when the match comes around. Solid > Riku > Hayabusa will still be considered as a viable possibility by many people until the day their match goes down...unless Sora flops tomorrow. If that happens, THEN Riku will be doomed...moreso than before, somehow. Hmm, I haven't thought about what Sora's performance would signify, but I guess if he flopped, it would show that KH has aged very quickly. What would constitute a "flop" for Sora, though? Less than 40%? --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
| Kyle Bowen | Posted 10/1/2007 4:55:48 PM | message detail |
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Are you basing Auron > Squall on this year? KB |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/1/2007 4:59:37 PM | message detail |
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I would be shocked if Roxas wasn't pulling a 95%+ overlap with Riku. Cloud only got a piddling 70% of Sephiroth's votes after Sephy was eliminated by Snake in the Battle Royale. 95% is a virtual impossibility. I think it's a mistake to think that fanbases are divided by consoles in that way. I don't see how it's ever been borne out in the matches. Snake/Sora, Mega Man/Yoshi... oh, and approximately 10,000 instances in the Games Contest. --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| Draco1214 | Posted 10/1/2007 5:03:51 PM | message detail |
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Ganondorf Auron Squall Bowser --- Currently Playing: Wild Arms 3, Persona 3 |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/1/2007 5:06:21 PM | message detail |
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Cloud only got a piddling 70% of Sephiroth's votes after Sephy was
eliminated by Snake in the Battle Royale. 95% is a virtual
impossibility. To be fair, one would expect Sephy to share many more fans with Link and Snake than Roxas would share with Ryu and Haseo, given that almost everyone on the site is a Zelda/FFVII fan, and the MGS fanbase is huge too. At that level, everyone shares a fanbase. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/1/2007 5:09:53 PM | message detail |
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Of course, but the fact was that it was also CLOUD and SEPHIROTH. Those
two characters are extremely well known, and get all their strength
from the exact same games. There are plenty of Riku fans from KH1 that
have never heard of Roxas, and you can play through all of Roxas'
storyline and the majority of KH2 without giving a damn about Riku. This 80%, 95%+ stuff is getting a bit ridiculous. Why not just assume it's 100% overlap for all matches and call it a day? Oh wow looks like Bowser does even BETTER on Ryu this year than in 2k5 Bowser boost confirmed --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/1/2007 5:11:00 PM | message detail |
| Heh, I'm not saying that Riku has a chance to beat
Ryu next round, I'm just saying that Cloud/Sephiroth shouldn't
necessarily be used as the standard. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/1/2007 5:12:41 PM | message detail |
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I think we can stop throwing percentages around - the fact remains that Ryu beat the two combined.
you need to hope for 100% fanbase overlap (not really realistic) and
then for Snake to hurt Ryu more than Riku. that's wishful thinking. --- | |_ . . ___| |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/1/2007 5:13:36 PM | message detail |
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Oh wow looks like Bowser does even BETTER on Ryu this year than in 2k5 Bowser boost confirmed bowser > snake believe --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang wre my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/1/2007 5:14:09 PM | message detail |
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SFF from Dante, Sigma, and Xbox dominance in this format. Riku drop/possible exposure. Seriously, as much as I'd like to give it all to Ryu, there's something up with Riku. --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe Aeris/Akuma/Geno/Squall - Bracket: Squall > Aeris - Vote: Squall (93/112) |
| smitelf | Posted 10/1/2007 5:19:30 PM | message detail |
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Cloud only got a piddling 70% of Sephiroth's votes after Sephy was
eliminated by Snake in the Battle Royale. 95% is a virtual
impossibility. Cloud vs. Sephiroth is a totally different dynamic. 95%+ is perhaps overkill, but the % of fanbase shared between Roxas and Riku will be waaay higher than Cloud and Sephiroth. Snake/Sora, Mega Man/Yoshi... oh, and approximately 10,000 instances in the Games Contest. The games contest is irrelevant, of course. As for the two matches you mention, I seem to recall that there are different interpretations of what happened, but I wasn't paying much attention to this board at the time. There are plenty of Riku fans from KH1 that have never heard of Roxas Oh, if we're talking about the fanbase of Riku that overlaps with Roxas (i.e. people who would vote for Riku, but not Roxas in the match), the overlap is probably lower than 80%, for sure. But what's important is how many people who voted for Roxas who would have voted for Riku otherwise. and you can play through all of Roxas' storyline and the majority of KH2 without giving a damn about Riku. I guess you could, sure, but not a lot would, IMO. I think we can stop throwing percentages around - the fact remains that Ryu beat the two combined. you need to hope for 100% fanbase overlap (not really realistic) and then for Snake to hurt Ryu more than Riku. that's wishful thinking. The former is unrealistic, but it's not a necessary condition anyway. The latter is definitely realistic, IMO. I think Snake and Nightmare will hurt Ryu more than Riku - if I didn't, I would definitely agree that Riku is totally screwed. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/1/2007 5:21:10 PM | message detail |
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I dunno - picture or not, it's tough to completely ignore that Snake/Sora match. --- | |_ . . ___| |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/1/2007 5:22:34 PM | message detail |
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Riku drop/possible exposure. Seriously, as much as I'd like to give it all to Ryu, there's something up with Riku. Oh, yes, definitely. Though I'd say Riku last year being an anomaly is likelier than a Riku drop. And the guy was only asking about reasons for Ryu boosting, not Riku dropping. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/1/2007 5:22:39 PM | message detail |
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I guess you could, sure, but not a lot would, IMO. aww yeah, in the minority I didn't care for Riku at all until I played CoM (which was after KH2). --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe Aeris/Akuma/Geno/Squall - Bracket: Squall > Aeris - Vote: Squall (93/112) |
| smitelf | Posted 10/1/2007 5:24:39 PM | message detail |
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| Master Moltar | Posted 10/1/2007 5:26:04 PM | message detail |
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And the guy was only asking about reasons for Ryu boosting, not Riku dropping. I know, I meant to imply that Ryu's boost shouldn't be over glorified because of a thousand different factors. --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe Aeris/Akuma/Geno/Squall - Bracket: Squall > Aeris - Vote: Squall (93/112) |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/1/2007 5:26:26 PM | message detail |
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Aww yeah at that Akuma cut. Its comeback time baby. --- Demyx is better than Axel. I don't like Haley Scarnato |
| smitelf | Posted 10/1/2007 5:26:59 PM | message detail |
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Seriously, as much as I'd like to give it all to Ryu, there's something up with Riku. Yeah, honestly, I'm interested now to see how Sora does. It seems to me that either Riku has a very big overlap with Roxas (and a significant overlap with Haseo) or Riku has dropped insanely, because there's no reason for Ryu H. to have moved. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/1/2007 5:28:46 PM | message detail |
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it'll be tough to gauge Sora based on these guys anyway. he'd have to
go under... uh, 40%?, before I'd say anything was wrong. maybe even
35%. who knows? --- | |_ . . ___| |
| smitelf | Posted 10/1/2007 5:31:36 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, I'm thinking 40% right now. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/1/2007 5:32:36 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, looking at this fourpack again, if Sora can't hit 40%, then start to be worried. Personally, I wanna see him exceed 45%, because I have the bastard going to Round 3. --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe Aeris/Akuma/Geno/Squall - Bracket: Squall > Aeris - Vote: Squall (93/112) |
| smitelf | Posted 10/1/2007 5:38:51 PM | message detail |
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From Master Moltar Personally, I wanna see him exceed 45%, because I have the bastard going to Round 3. Heh, me too, but it looks like Aeris would like to have a word with him. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
| charmander6000 | Posted 10/1/2007 5:47:32 PM | message detail |
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I have Squall > Aeris next round, but I don't know why people are
counting Sora out, he hasn't even had a match yet. We're you expecting
Squall to destroy Aeris with SFF? --- The Board 8 BOP - http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB6%20BOP.xls Match 29: Squall > Aeris Points: 82/112 |
| Lopen | Posted 10/1/2007 5:57:38 PM | message detail |
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because there's no reason for Ryu H. to have moved. Actually, there is plenty of reason for Ryu Hayabusa to have moved. Firstly and most importantly: He's been getting stronger every year as the X-Box gets more accepted on this site. Secondly: Ninja Gaiden Sigma. Very modest boost potential there, seeing as only 10% or so of the site has a PS3, but it's nice because it introduced Hayabusa to another non X-Box audience. Thirdly, there was Ninja Gaiden Black released between the 2005 and 2006 contest, and Dante SFFing Hayabusa could've concealed an additional boost from that: He might've been stronger last year. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/1/2007 6:14:41 PM | message detail |
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Sigma sold horribly. I'd wouldn't consider it when trying to compute Ryu's boost. --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe Aeris/Akuma/Geno/Squall - Bracket: Squall > Aeris - Vote: Squall (93/112) |
| BesaidGuy | Posted 10/1/2007 6:14:58 PM | message detail |
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While I am not positive, I believe the Ryu boost came from the new game
and the fact that it was on the 360. I mean Fenix and Chief(Who I have
in the finals by the way) speak for the 360's power here. Also, Riku might, I repeat might, have been apart of the wort case of SFF this tournament so far. He had another RPG character, plus a KH opponent, who, while not the strongest of opponents, still garners the decent fanbase. The Kingdom hearts fanbase is a very loyal one and I would not be shocked to see an 80-90% overlap for Riku next round. Riku scares me next round seeing as how I have Snake>Ryu --- FuturamandFFX/TheRealoSix AndyManCan's favorite user |
| smitelf | Posted 10/1/2007 6:23:26 PM | message detail |
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While I am not positive, I believe the Ryu boost came from the new game and the fact that it was on the 360. Isn't the new game on the PS3? I can buy that Ryu H. may be rising steadily as Xbox hate declines. Not sure if I buy the idea of a PS3 remake having the cache to raise Ryu H.'s profile much, though, especially since it's not like he's never been seen on a Sony console before. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/1/2007 6:24:54 PM | message detail |
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new game's a 360 game. --- xyzzy "And just to clear up any remaining confusion, tranny > icon." -Shaggy |
