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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 505
| transience | Posted 10/1/2007 5:14:32 AM | message detail |
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looks like Squall is the day vote god in this match. --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
| transience | Posted 10/1/2007 5:18:34 AM | message detail |
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...as Aeris cuts his lead. --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 10/1/2007 5:22:31 AM | message detail |
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just wrote my entire business paper on the dangers of groupthink about the stats topic aww yeah go gamefaqs i mean uh, go aeris kick that pansy akuma's ass --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| Who Cares? | Posted 10/1/2007 6:42:00 AM | message detail |
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Oh Street Fighter, so great at night that your best character can lead
over a Noble 9er, yet drops like a rock when the sun hits. --- Current Points: 85 Maximum Possible Points: 741/768 |
| charmander6000 | Posted 10/1/2007 7:26:53 AM | message detail |
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Squall is doing about as well as Zelda did on Aeris so it doesn't look
like the Square fanbase is favouring anyone too badly, however
Squall/Geno now becomes a 68/32 match. Anyone think Lara keeps up next
round if Squall/Aeris/Sora doesn't get favoured over each other? --- The Board 8 BOP - http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB6%20BOP.xls Match 29: Squall > Aeris Points: 82/112 |
| Ed Bellis | Posted 10/1/2007 7:29:24 AM | message detail |
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just wrote my entire business paper on the dangers of groupthink about the stats topic must read this paper seriously --- This was KING BELLIS LOL "OoT doesn't have "the magic" because it has no Tingle." - onethousandfingers |
| Djungelurban | Posted 10/1/2007 7:30:01 AM | message detail |
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That's what I'm counting on. Three way Square SFF will be just enough
to put a revitalized Lara Croft through to the third round. --- The apples were too strong for him. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2007 7:50:38 AM | message detail |
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I hope the Squall/Aeris implied match score will end up wider than
it is now. It definitely should, though. I need more Snake =
Samus/Mario evidence. You don't need the score to widen. Snake's matches against MM and Sonic implied he's up there with Samario. And lol akuba Told you he was going to collapse and Geno was going to rebound in the day. I fully expect Geno to seriously cut the lead with the ASV TuRtLe ~~~ 87/112 in the contest. Next pick: Squall > Aeris BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/1/2007 7:52:03 AM | message detail |
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Wow, Geno collapsed during the night. Surprised to see his board vote
was so strong (guess the match with Squall back in 2005 hinted at it
though). Ha, Akuma's going to die during the day. So much for the possibility of him going against the horrid SF day vote trend. With Squall and Aeris on the rise, I might have actually done well predicting this ugly match. --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe Aeris/Akuma/Geno/Squall - Bracket: Squall > Aeris - Vote: Squall (93/112) |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2007 7:54:27 AM | message detail |
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And someone asked in the last stats topic, Auron > Bowser > Ryu
is a pretty safe call. It might actually end up close, but I'd expect
Bowser/Ryu to be more of a 53-47 affair now, and Auron/Bowser to have a
similar percentage 1 on 1. TuRtLe ~~~ 87/112 in the contest. Next pick: Squall > Aeris BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| JonPen1416 | Posted 10/1/2007 8:01:00 AM | message detail |
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I was just thinking, if one takes BT's Link > Zero upset even
further . . . what if, for some completely random reason, Zero pulls
out what he did vs. Mega Man in 2k4 and somehow rLFFs Link, and then
for some other reason Crono and Vincent fail to LFF one another to any
significant degree. Zero hurts Link enough for Crono and Vincent to
somehow slip by. Completely impossible, of course, but it would be the funniest damn thing to ever happen in any contest ever. --- "Even beasts know when to give up." ~Raphael Sorel |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2007 8:05:17 AM | message detail |
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No. Zero did what he did against MM in 2k4 because SFF matches tend to
favour fan favourites. That's also why Magus did so good on Crono too. Zero needs to not have dropped since 2k4/2k5 to be able to take advantage of the Square SFF, but if Ryu H can beat Riku/Roxas combined, I can't see why Zero is such an unlikely upset there considering we saw Crono/Vincent before and that resulted in a 55-45 split. TuRtLe ~~~ 87/112 in the contest. Next pick: Squall > Aeris BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2007 8:12:52 AM | message detail |
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Just looking at the votals for MM/Link, it was about 1000 more than
Link/Crono. SFF matches usually have considerably lower votals. That
and Zero's 2k5 and 2k6 matches both had high votals implies that there
really isn't any Nintendo/Mega Man SFF, and Yoshi just folded because
he was up against an icon. He seems to suffer from Pac-Man syndrome in
that regard. I'd like to see him go up against Mario or Sonic. Actually, that train of thought is starting to give me some consolation on my MM > Knux pick. At any rate, I think Mario/Zero was legitimately Mario boosting through the roof, and Luigi 2k6 was the result of a high seed for Luigi. The way he beat Zero and Kirby before doing exactly as expected against Sonic implies that. TuRtLe ~~~ 87/112 in the contest. Next pick: Squall > Aeris BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Buzzup | Posted 10/1/2007 8:14:18 AM | message detail |
| Or it could just be Zero dropping off the map because of higher votals. |
| Who Cares? | Posted 10/1/2007 8:16:30 AM | message detail |
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I'm still curious how Ken/Chun/Bison would do in this spot if Akuma is
indeed a bit below them, since he's still managing to cut into Aeris
lead from time to time. But I guess I'll have to see what Lara does
next round to get a better idea. --- Current Points: 85 Maximum Possible Points: 741/768 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2007 8:23:34 AM | message detail |
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But Zero and Dante did similarly on Ryu H, and I'd say those 2 are at around the same strength level. TuRtLe ~~~ 87/112 in the contest. Next pick: Squall > Aeris BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/1/2007 8:28:57 AM | message detail |
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Dante got 2% more after Ryu got NGB. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| charmander6000 | Posted 10/1/2007 8:31:07 AM | message detail |
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Right now using Geno Akuma is expected to win 58/42 while the other three are expected to get above 60% --- The Board 8 BOP - http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB6%20BOP.xls Match 29: Squall > Aeris Points: 82/112 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2007 8:33:46 AM | message detail |
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And Dante also had DMC3:SE TuRtLe ~~~ 87/112 in the contest. Next pick: Squall > Aeris BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2007 8:34:30 AM | message detail |
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If it was Ken or Chunners here, I'd expect them to be giving Aeris a good fight right now. TuRtLe ~~~ 87/112 in the contest. Next pick: Squall > Aeris BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Buzzup | Posted 10/1/2007 8:37:37 AM | message detail |
| We really need to bring Ken back, the guy never got the chance he deserved. <_< |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2007 8:38:32 AM | message detail |
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So star of the round, is it Master Chief or Ryu H? TuRtLe ~~~ 87/112 in the contest. Next pick: Squall > Aeris BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 10/1/2007 8:39:35 AM | message detail |
| L-Block, with Chief in a distant second (Ryu on his heels). |
| Lopen | Posted 10/1/2007 8:41:53 AM | message detail |
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Ken definitely would be, I think. I don't think Chun Li and M Bison are on Ken's level though. Ken got about the same amount on Sonic and Samus as Chun Li did on Bowser. Course they are ancient matches, but right now I'm thinkin: Ken > Bison/Chun Li > Akuma. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| Lopen | Posted 10/1/2007 8:42:43 AM | message detail |
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And damn this morning vote for burying Akuma. Damn it to hell! --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 10/1/2007 8:45:05 AM | message detail |
| I'd definitely put Ken as the series' #2 guy. It still surprises me that he did so much worse than Ryu on a common opponent; I just don't get it. By the next Character Battle, it will have been at least six years, and I think he deserves another shot. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2007 8:45:36 AM | message detail |
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I'd say more like Ken >= Chun-Li > Bison Ken is iconic, but Chun-Li is basically the first non-Samus VG babe. TuRtLe ~~~ 87/112 in the contest. Next pick: Squall > Aeris BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2007 8:46:21 AM | message detail |
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So list of characters that got shafted in previous contest appearances that deserve a return: Ken Protoman TuRtLe ~~~ 87/112 in the contest. Next pick: Squall > Aeris BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 10/1/2007 8:46:24 AM | message detail |
| I think Chun-Li was the first. No one really considered Samus a babe in the early 90's. |
| Lopen | Posted 10/1/2007 8:52:18 AM | message detail |
| You can't underestimate Bison though. The cool
thing about Bison is no matter who you play he's always the end boss.
With Chun Li, if you don't play her she's basically just another person
on the character select screen. Personally I think Bison's stronger indirectly but Chun Li is stronger head to head. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| Buzzup | Posted 10/1/2007 9:06:00 AM | message detail |
| I never got the impression that Bison was very popular amongst the fanbase, less popular than Ken, Chun-Li and Vega in any case. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2007 9:07:36 AM | message detail |
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No Vega What is with you people? Vega sucked and noone used him. TuRtLe ~~~ 87/112 in the contest. Next pick: Squall > Aeris BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Who Cares? | Posted 10/1/2007 9:09:10 AM | message detail |
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Bison is the type of character that most SF fans like, but don't
neccessarily love, which is why he'd struggle against Ryu, Ken, Chun
head to head. --- Current Points: 85 Maximum Possible Points: 741/768 |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/1/2007 9:09:10 AM | message detail |
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We should nominate this guy http://youtube.com/watch?v=D3Lr70lwaVg --- This story is not an end yet. Because only you are in the infinity loop. |
| Lopen | Posted 10/1/2007 9:10:23 AM | message detail |
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Oh no, Vega's awesome. Easily the strongest character we haven't seen from SF. Look at that character design! So beautiful. And see that's why Bison's stronger indirectly. I don't think he's much of a fan favorite either, but he's got some appeal to everyone, not just those that have him as their favorite. It's the same reason Bowser still manages to be strong despite Yoshi and Luigi probably being more of fan favorites. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| MadGamer_11 | Posted 10/1/2007 9:11:28 AM | message detail |
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We should nominate this guy http://youtube.com/watch?v=D3Lr70lwaVg Wow is all I can say at that video. That guy must've felt sooo bad. --- "To be forgotten is worse than death"-Freya FFIX |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2007 9:13:15 AM | message detail |
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What I'll never understand is how much of a vote draw Luigi is. Look at
all his 2k5 and 2k6 matches. His votals are ridiculous. For some
reason, Luigi/Zero is one of the highest votals in the whole contest
until the later rounds TuRtLe ~~~ 87/112 in the contest. Next pick: Squall > Aeris BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 10/1/2007 9:20:38 AM | message detail |
| It's the Luigi mystery. Also, there are probably a good ten Street Fighter characters that can win a match with a favorable draw. |
| Lopen | Posted 10/1/2007 9:23:28 AM | message detail |
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Oh, actually Dan might be > Vega. Dan deserves a shot, dammit. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| Haste_2 | Posted 10/1/2007 9:23:35 AM | message detail |
| I'm so glad there is now a term for SFF in terms
of characters leeching off each other, but not necessarily messing up
results according to indirect strength: LFF. It suddenly came out of
nowhere a few days ago. What does "L" in LFF stand for, though? I can't
figure it out. Oh, wait... duh. Leech Fanbase Factor, right? As for the star of the round, Ryu Hayabusa is a good contender... beating Riku and Roxas combined just seemed flat out impossible to me. I mean, that's saying right there that Hayabusa would most definitely beat Riku. What happened? Was Hayabusa SFFed last year by a significant amount, and he boosted further? Or did Kingdom Hearts lose strength this year? Sora might give us a hint of that tomorrow... keep in mind that I'd consider Sora's competition slightly better than Ganondorf's. Sora could conceivably be just about on level with Ganondorf, and all matches so far, if anything, have pointed to Snake/Samus being the anomaly, not Snake/Sonic. As for LFF and Bowser... keep in mind that LFF between Marth/DK and Meta Knight/Peach wasn't that strong... in fact, LFF between Aeris and Squall seems bigger between them than in those two Nintendo cases. Replace Marth with someone else and DK probably only does 5% better on Kratos (then again, that's only an estimation... for all we know, Kratos might not have boosted much from GoW2). Similarly, Meta Knight and Peach got similar scores against Sephiroth as Jill Valentine and Ocelot got against Cloud, though you'd expect all four of them to be of similar strength. Don't be ready to count out Ryu (SF) just yet next round. Something to think about: is LFF bigger between two strong characters, or two weak ones (say, Mario and Link as opposed to Luigi and Zelda)? It should be bigger with two stronger ones, of course... but what about proportionally? I'm tempted to say two strong ones LFF each other more proportionally, as there is technically more fanbase for them in the first place. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2007 9:23:51 AM | message detail |
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Yoshi seems to be the same way. Hmmm, seems as though Yoshi and Luigi both suffer from Pac-Man syndrome, in that they can heavily impress against someone that isn't mainstreamily recognizable. Which is why Luigi killed KOS-MOS before jobbing to Tifa, and how he beat Zero before jobbing to snoic. And the more I look at it, the more it seems Yoshi/Snake is basically 2k6 Yoshi/something between 2k5 and 2k6 Snake TuRtLe ~~~ 87/112 in the contest. Next pick: Squall > Aeris BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2007 9:29:02 AM | message detail |
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LFF is just a fancy way of saying SFF. SFF isn't just cases such as
Link/Ganondorf, you have to think about matches like Magus/Crono,
Zero/Mega Man, Squall/Vincent and a host of others where votals are low
between the two characters due to the overlap. In this format, there
are other characters in the match to take advantage of this split,
which is why Ryu, Ryu and Kratos looked so completely and utterly
dominant. It's also why Akuma looks half-decent here. I'd expect Aeris to double Akuma 1 on 1, and Squall to at least triple him. TuRtLe ~~~ 87/112 in the contest. Next pick: Squall > Aeris BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2007 9:30:06 AM | message detail |
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Sora could conceivably be just about on level with Ganondorf, and
all matches so far, if anything, have pointed to Snake/Samus being the
anomaly, not Snake/Sonic. I love being right. TuRtLe ~~~ 87/112 in the contest. Next pick: Squall > Aeris BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Lopen | Posted 10/1/2007 9:33:28 AM | message detail |
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Considering the website we're on Zero is plenty mainstream. He hasn't
been in a very popular game for a while, but neither has Crono. I dunno
what you're getting at there. Oh, I get it--trying to compare Zero's
bad performance to KOS-MOS's in order to write it off as a fluke. Anyway, no way does Aeris double Akuma in a normal match. And Squall tripling him? Ha. He barely tripled Geno, and Akuma's vastly outdoing him. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 10/1/2007 9:34:27 AM | message detail |
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Turtle Shut up --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=34492787 Sign plz "NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU *****!" - Molly Weasley, Deathly Hallows |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/1/2007 9:39:58 AM | message detail |
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Vastly outdoing Geno? Wait until the kiddies wake up. I can see Geno finishing above 17% and Akuma going below 20% TuRtLe ~~~ 87/112 in the contest. Next pick: Squall > Aeris BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| mr wednesday | Posted 10/1/2007 9:42:30 AM | message detail |
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Why hasn't Blanka been nominated? And the L stands for leech and sadly enough, I think hochiminh155 coined it. --- IF TOAD DOES NOT ADVANCE TO THE SECOND ROUND, I WILL NEVER COME TO GAMEFAQS AGAIN |
| Xuxon | Posted 10/1/2007 9:50:35 AM | message detail |
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I don't know, Akuma's got the leech factor going for him and he isn't
doing much with it. I could see Aeris doubling him (Squall tripling
would be a stretch, though). It depends on whether Aeris's performance
today relative to Squall is legit or SFF. --- FFXII NLB - finished - 39 marks FFXII LLIENANMiNDM - Bhujerba (post-Ba'Gamnan) |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 10/1/2007 9:51:31 AM | message detail |
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cn coined LFF on the second day of the contest. --- Mustache...and green... www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| ZFS | Posted 10/1/2007 9:51:31 AM | message detail |
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aww yeah aeris Nice to see her put this one away. Not as high as I would have liked, but it'll work! --- let's mosey |
