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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 504
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/30/2007 12:56:57 PM | message detail |
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Hmm... I feel this is part of what we lose with this new format as
opposed to the old one, the impact of real shocks like this. As it
stands, Ryu H. > Riku wasn't that big of an upset here, not at all
with Roxas in the mix. However, it looks like Ryu H. would be beating
Riku 1v1 now, and he'd certainly be keeping it MUCH closer than many
would have given him credit for. How many people would have taken that
upset here? Probably not even Lopen... it would have been a huge, if
not very close upset. You see this stuff all over the bracket, too, potential matches that could provide just as much excitement and entertainment as any we've seen so far. Part of it is just luck (seriously, who would think Riku/Ryu H. would be a close match before today?), but part of it is just good bracket making. This format makes close matches much more probable in spite of whatever bracket may turn out, but I don't think that should be encouraged... --- Samus 2K5 is horribly underrated, and is indirectly stronger than Mario. KHF sucks and never existed either, much like my package. |
| Lopen | Posted 9/30/2007 12:59:15 PM | message detail |
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Nope, I wouldn't have taken it. And mind you, this is the same guy who took Ryu Hayabusa to the final four in 2004. ... what!? NES + X-Box cred how could he lose to Samus or Sonic I mean really!? --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/30/2007 1:07:30 PM | message detail |
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Flawless logic. --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe Haseo/Riku/Roxas/Ryu H. - Bracket: Riku > Ryu H. - Vote: Riku (91/108) |
| ZFS | Posted 9/30/2007 1:09:28 PM | message detail |
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Man, Hayabusa hasn't really budged much at all since last night. Crazy match. --- let's mosey |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/30/2007 1:18:47 PM | message detail |
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Micro$oft owns this Kingdom's day vote, I'm afraid. The day vote's already over...it works differently on weekends. Just look at how short-lived Ness's day vote was, and that was against Castlevania and Metal Gear. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 9/30/2007 1:25:59 PM | message detail |
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Yep, there is no day vote on weekends. --- Hochiminh155's Trail to Failure swirldude has exposed me as a prediction fraud. |
| voltch | Posted 9/30/2007 1:27:32 PM | message detail |
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are people worried about snake>riku or does everone assume riku
get's all of roxas's votes+ryu loses his casual power to snake and
nightmare? --- Rufus shinra destroyed my bracket in the sc2k6 contest. |
| Lopen | Posted 9/30/2007 1:31:48 PM | message detail |
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The day vote really doesn't work all that differently on weekends. If
you want support of this, check out Master Chief vs Donkey Kong: It was
on a Saturday. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/30/2007 1:33:52 PM | message detail |
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So then how do you explain Ness's match, Lopen? Perhaps it was
different in the past, but this year, the weekend day vote is much
smaller and shorter. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| Lopen | Posted 9/30/2007 1:37:32 PM | message detail |
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Ness was just too weak to capitalize on the day vote. Ness's day vote
is overrated. Yeah, he makes small %age gains with it, but he's not a
day vote machine, his morning vote is where the true power lies, and he
made a good gain with that against Alucard and Liquid. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 9/30/2007 1:38:50 PM | message detail |
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Lopen, you don't know what you're talking about. Liquid Snake lost the
day vote to Lavos. Alucard loses the day vote to everyone. Ness may be
mediocre with the day vote but there is no excuse for him not gaining, --- Hochiminh155's Trail to Failure swirldude has exposed me as a prediction fraud. |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/30/2007 1:39:47 PM | message detail |
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Yeah Lopen, you have no clue what you're talking about. --- Kleenex - Now with an invigorating blast of citrus cherry flavor. CB6 - 79/108; Oracle - 29th |
| Lopen | Posted 9/30/2007 1:44:01 PM | message detail |
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Well, to be fair in the times we've seen Alucard with poll tracking
he's gone up against Ganondorf, Kratos, and Sora. Hardly day vote
slouches. Ness has never made much movement during the day vote. Look
at all of his matches. Auron, Ness, Jak. All the movement Ness made was
in the morning. Okay against Auron he did a little damage in the day. This was pre KH2 auron though, and it wasn't much. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 9/30/2007 1:50:19 PM | message detail |
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Man... every time I see that Master Chief commercial with the heart-touching music and then the word "Believe." just staring at me in the face, I know he's taking down Link. Book it. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| Lopen | Posted 9/30/2007 1:55:08 PM | message detail |
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And very importantly: Alucard gained the power of X-Box backing this
year! That might be enough to turn his crappy day vote into a mediocre
one! (Though this doesn't really explain Liquid much) In any case, mediocre is mediocre. How much do you want with that? Tommy Vercetti, a man with a day vote that's probably at least as good as Ness's struggled to gain momentum on Kefka. Shout Romero all you want but I think most of the stuffing the man did was at night. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| Keno316 | Posted 9/30/2007 2:14:40 PM | message detail |
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I still think Snake > Riku can happen... I'll wait til Bowser > Auron for confidence, though... --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB *Claims KG's Eclair, C.C. & Tear Grants* |
| Lopen | Posted 9/30/2007 2:19:12 PM | message detail |
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Eh, on second thought, Vercetti did do some significant damage to Kefka
during the day. I'd have expected worse, but I also think TV > Ness
with the day vote... anyway...
point is I don't think a mediocre day vote wins significantly against a
crappy day vote by default. Ness's day vote was overhyped mostly
because he was getting his ass kicked and everyone in this topic wanted
to cling to the fact that they might get more than 1 or 2 points for
the match. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| transience | Posted 9/30/2007 2:29:09 PM | message detail |
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I considered Dante/Ryu SFF last year, but it seemed so... pointless.
like, the whole big deal was that he was beating Ryu worse than Zero,
and Dante just *couldn't* be stronger than Zero! that was crazy talk!
if there was SFF there, it was not significant. I don't like making up
excuses for missing a match; Ryu's just dominating and it was something
any x-stat fanboy wouldn't see coming. --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
| charmander6000 | Posted 9/30/2007 2:35:19 PM | message detail |
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The reason why I took Ryu > Riku was because it felt right, but I
did the same with some of my other picks so maybe I'm just lucky. --- The Board 8 BOP - http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB6%20BOP.xls Match 28: Ryu Hayabusa > Riku Points: 78/108 |
| Lopen | Posted 9/30/2007 2:37:17 PM | message detail |
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Well I think Dante was stronger than 2005 Zero last year easily (And
probably 2k3 Link at that). I certainly wasn't using that as an excuse
for Dante outperforming Zero. I just think it's possible that Ryu
Hayabusa's strength has been increasing more gradually and Dante
obscured it last year. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| transience | Posted 9/30/2007 2:56:18 PM | message detail |
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how do you think that match goes indirectly? 60/40? 55/45? I can't see
Hayabusa being at 45% of Dante last year. again, I probably have x-stat
blinders on, but that just doesn't make sense to me. I don't think he'd get 45% this year indirectly either though. I don't know what's going on here and I think waiting to see how rounds 2 and 3 go will be the way to go. --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
| transience | Posted 9/30/2007 2:59:39 PM | message detail |
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actually, if you want to play "guess the anomaly", I like Riku/Yoshi
better. reasoning? who knows. but it makes more sense to me than
Hayabusa, a fairly stable character, boosting through the ceiling. --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
| Lopen | Posted 9/30/2007 3:03:00 PM | message detail |
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I dunno. 60-40 would be my guess? I'm not even saying it did happen for
sure, and he had a big jump this year either way. I'm just saying it could've happened to make this jump a little less sudden. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 9/30/2007 3:05:37 PM | message detail |
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im with tranny. looking back on it, riku/yoshi would be the funniest match. that was a pretty large boost even with KH2. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| Lopen | Posted 9/30/2007 3:08:25 PM | message detail |
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And I dunno what we have to back Ryu Hayabusa being "fairly stable." He
made a pretty sizable jump from 2004-2005. Yeah, I blame the picture of
course, but still, there's nothing to support him being stable, and I
would think he would keep boosting as the X-Box is more and more
accepted on this site. I wouldn't think to this extent, of course...
but eh. And Ninja Gaiden Sigma might've helped ever so slightly... I mean at least it branches him into a different audience, as small as it may be. 10% of the site is 10% of the site. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/30/2007 3:09:06 PM | message detail |
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Even in 2k5 though, Riku didn't look that bad. He was barely weaker
than Ryu H then and I find it hard to believe KH2 didn't boost him up
somewhat. --- Demyx is better than Axel. I don't like Haley Scarnato |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 9/30/2007 3:11:09 PM | message detail |
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Behind Ryu somewhat, and then beating him 61-39 the next year is a pretty large jump --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/30/2007 3:11:21 PM | message detail |
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http://ninjaworksit.ytmnd.com/ --- (|| ' ' ||) Who would win in a Fight? Aeris vs Akuma vs Geno vs Squall *FFVII SPOILERS* . /|_|\ http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=38581720 |
| Janus5000 | Posted 9/30/2007 3:15:52 PM | message detail |
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is it just me or is Haseo going up I mean I knew weekends didn't have very long day votes but what the hell --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." - Joseph Stalin |
| Lopen | Posted 9/30/2007 3:15:53 PM | message detail |
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Yeah. Riku's probably overrated too, but I still say this is more Ryu
than him. But you know, it's funny because even a 2006 Ryu Hayabusa KH
and I claim to be possible SFFed is stronger than 2005 Hayabusa, who's
stronger than 2004 Hayabusa. The guy's been gaining steam every year. Once again, there's nothing to support him being stable, dunno where that came from. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/30/2007 4:27:11 PM | message detail |
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is it just me or is Haseo going up I mean I knew weekends didn't have very long day votes but what the hell Again, the day vote works differently on the weekend. Instead of an after-school vote, we just have a morning vote, which is the weekend's day vote. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| Lopen | Posted 9/30/2007 4:52:57 PM | message detail |
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Ness's day vote is invincible! Pfft. Master Chief and Marcus Fenix will show you people what a real day weekend day vote looks like next round. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| Lopen | Posted 9/30/2007 4:53:47 PM | message detail |
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And yes, that's two days in that day vote, meaning the day vote will be twice as dayie. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 9/30/2007 4:58:00 PM | message detail |
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Weren't Fenix and MC also doing better before the ASV too, which is
normally weird for day vote characters? Maybe Microsoft characters just
have an extended one. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| Lopen | Posted 9/30/2007 5:03:24 PM | message detail |
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Maybe, but I think that was more Kefka is awesome during the night and
Master Chief sucks ass in the night at work there. As Marcus and Master
Chief were just snapping back to less bad points for them before
chomping down on deadly ASV territory. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| swirIdude | Posted 9/30/2007 5:24:56 PM | message detail |
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I'm in two sigs now, yay for me! Anyway, good lord Ryu, you're making me think you can beat Riku in Round 2 now. --- http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2636/ivotedphoenixyi0.png http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2931/ivotededgeworthck7.png |
| Majin Lou | Posted 9/30/2007 5:36:53 PM | message detail |
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Hmm, I wonder how much the hype for Ninja Gaiden II (for the 360) is
helping Ryu today. I do have the feeling that Riku vs. Ryu 1 on 1 would
still be pretty close though, since Riku would probably suck up most of
Roxas' and Haseo's votes. --- http://danceandstomp.net/forum/ Desert Rose, why do you live alone? If you are sad, I'll make you leave this life. |
| Gaddswell | Posted 9/30/2007 5:47:47 PM | message detail |
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Looks like Ryu H only dropped 3/4 of a percent from his highest point
to his lowest point during the morning vote (46.17% to 45.32%) and
since has been gaining again. Really nice performance from him. --- Who the hell do you think you are getting off being so egotistical like that? - hochiminh155 to Takfloyd_mkII__ |
| Gaddswell | Posted 9/30/2007 6:44:32 PM | message detail |
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Riku finally loses an update to Roxas. --- Who the hell do you think you are getting off being so egotistical like that? - hochiminh155 to Takfloyd_mkII__ |
| charmander6000 | Posted 9/30/2007 7:32:12 PM | message detail |
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Match XXIX: Aeris vs Akuma vs Geno vs Squall Information Name: Aeris Gainsborough Game/Series From: Final Fantasy VII Past Contests: CB2k2, CB2k3, CB2k6 Wins: Kasumi (2k2), Tina Armstrong (2k2), Sora (2k3), Master Chief (2k3), Marle (2k6), KOS-MOS (2k6) Losses: Solid Snake (2k2), Sonic (2k3), Zelda (2k6) Name: Akuma Game/Series From: Street Fighter series Past Contests: None Wins: N/A Losses: N/A Name: Geno Game/Series From: Super Mario RPG Past Contests: CB2k5 Wins: None Losses: Squall (2k5) Name: Squall Leonhart Game/Series From: Final Fantasy VIII Past Contests: CB2k2, CB2k3, CB2k4, CB2k5, CB2k6 Wins: Jill Valentine (2k3), Luigi (2k3), Bomberman (2k4), Kirby (2k4), Geno (2k5), Knuckles (2k5), Tidus (2k6) Losses: Solid Snake (2k2), Samus (2k3), Cloud (2k4), Vincent (2k5), Solid Snake (2k6) Analysis Had the characters been from different fanbases this would have been an easy match to predict, but after seeing what Riku and Roxas did in their matches there is some concern on whether both Final Fantasy characters can make it to the next round. Akuma isn’t the strongest Street Fighter character, but if enough people favor Squall over Aeris it could put her in danger of losing. Squall will take first, he is one of the strongest characters outside of the noble nine and outside the Cloud match he doesn’t seem to fold when going up against other Square characters. He hasn’t had anything over the past year though it’s not like he needs anything since his first two matches are a total square-fest. By looking at individual strengths Aeris should easily take second, but with Squall in the poll this makes the match a little more interesting. We don’t really know where Aeris ranks since the female bracket overrates them and that we haven’t seen her since 2k3. Aeris was able to get the same as Yuna in her match against Zelda though that doesn’t help us much since Yuna went up against a Halo 3 pumped Master Chief. There are two types of SFF in this contest the one where both characters do worse and the one where one destroys the other. Aeris better hope for the first option because if Aeris ends up anywhere near like Tidus did I don’t think she’ll have enough to take second. Akuma must be pretty luck he is in the face of two really strong opponents and because of the fanbase overlap he has a chance at making it to the next round. Looking at past Street Fighter characters I’d probably rank Akuma as the weakest though considering that the weakest so far is a low mid-carder that is still pretty good though in a match like this I don’t think anyone should be considering Akuma to take second. I’m not saying that Akuma has no chance, but don’t expect him to be anywhere near a favorite going into the match. Geno has had one match in the past and for fun he gets to have a rematch with that character plus two other characters. While Geno is owned by Square he is probably more of a Nintendo character and probably won’t affect the other Square characters in the match. Geno almost let Squall triple him back in 2k5 and with nothing since then I’ll be surprised if he avoids getting last. Squall gets first and Aeris gets second Akuma does have an outside chance at advancing if Squall SFF Aeris badly. If Aeris makes it to the next round we’re going to have a three-way Square match where all three characters are near-elites. charmander6000’s Bracket: Squall > Aeris charmander6000’s Prediction: Squall - 39.52%, Aeris - 27.27%, Akuma - 22.63%, Geno - 10.58% --- The Board 8 BOP - http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB6%20BOP.xls Match 28: Ryu Hayabusa > Riku Points: 78/108 |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/30/2007 8:12:10 PM | message detail |
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Division 8: Round 1 - Match 29 – Aeris Gainsborough vs. Akuma vs. Geno vs. Squall Leonhart Moltar’s Analysis Aeris Game/Series Known From: Final Fantasy VII Seed in 2002: 11 Seed in 2003: 11 Seed in 2006: 2 Lost in 2002 to Solid Snake in Round 3 Lost in 2003 to Sonic in Round 3 Lost in 2006 to Zelda in Round 3 Our favorite spoiler is back for another Contest. Akuma Game/Series Known From: Street Fighter Another Street Fighter gets his chance to shine. Geno Game/Series Known From: Super Mario RPG Seed in 2005: 7 Lost in 2005 to Squall in Round 1 Nintendo…Square…he doesn’t know what he is! Squall Game/Series Known From: Final Fantasy VIII Seed in 2002: 15 Seed in 2003: 6 Seed in 2004: 4 Seed in 2005: 2 Seed in 2006: 4 Lost in 2002 to Sonic in Round 1 Lost in 2003 to Samus in the Round 3 Lost in 2004 to Cloud in the Round 3 Lost in 2005 to Vincent in Round 3 Lost in 2006 to Solid Snake in Round 2 The prettiest FF lead pretty boy rounds out the pack. The final Division. Speaking of Final, got a lot of Final Fantasy here. They aren’t scrubs either. Squall and Aeris could pretty much be considered near-elites. Then there’s Geno, who lost pretty handily to Squall back in 2005. He does have a small fanbase behind him, but it’ll probably only be enough to keep him around 10%. Then there’s Akuma. We’ve seen Ryu, Ken, Chun-Li, M. Bison, and just about every other Street Thug in these Contests. Well, this one’s different. It’s AKUMA! He ain’t no Ryu or Ken…so he doesn’t have much of a chance to move on to Round 2. Sure, there’s the slight possibility that Squall or Aeris could SFF stomp the other hard enough for Akuma to squeak by, but I highly doubt it. So who takes #1? Well, FF7 > FF8, but Squall > Aeris. It’ll be interesting to see how SFF plays a role in this match in between the two, and could definitely give us some insight on how things will play out next round. Moltar’s Bracket Says: Squall > Aeris > Akuma > Geno Moltar’s Prediction is: Squall: 37% - Aeris.: 30% - Akuma: 23% - Geno: 10% Ultimaterializer’s Analysis We've seen a lot of cubie-rematches in this bracket. Frog vs Samus, Crono vs Simon Belmont, Squall vs Geno.... and none of them make any sense. Anyway, barring some wicked SFF between Squall and Aeris that allows Akuma to advance (which I highly doubt happens; we've already seen Squall v Vincent and the minimal SFF effect there), Squall and Aeris should take the top two spots, with Akuma finishing a respectable third and Geno coming in an undeserved last place. That guy needs to get into Brawl almost as much as Sonic does =/ As for who takes first place between Aeris and Squall, I think Squall should pull it off. Aeris isn't as strong as Vincent, and you don't need fancy stat to figure out where to go from there. Ulti's Prediction: Squall [31.00%] Aeris [30.00%] Akuma [22.00%] Geno [17.00%] Heroic Mario’s Analysis Squall – 35% Aeris – 32% Akuma – 20% Geno – 13% Aeris close to Squall? Akuma closer to Geno than Aeris? No match changing SFF? aww yeah I’ve been looking forward to seeing this match for a good while now. The Akuma hype train seems to be picking up steam after seeing some of the other fighting game characters perform. But forget that crap -- Akuma’s not doing anything but except placing at a distant third! |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/30/2007 8:12:33 PM | message detail |
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You can cite Square SFF potentially causing problems, but I’m not
buying into that, not when it’s Final Fantasy 7 we’re dealing with. The
general rule is simple: FF7 does not get SFFed unless it’s doing it to
itself. You’ll never find me downplaying what Vincent has done in this
contest, but when you get right down to it, an optional character in
FF7 beat the main character of FF8 and one of the bigger FF stars of
KH. There was no SFF at play there -- it ain’t ever happenin’, folks. Square fans know what’s up, and they’re not abandoning FF7 for another (inferior) Square product! Now, sure, Squall would still beat Aeris one-on-one just by virtue of being the stronger character normally, but no way do I see any sort of Squall/Tidus redux, or even remotely close. Aeris may have had a rather poor performance last year, but the female bracket as a whole was just so wonky that I don’t put much stock into, regardless of how they performed. Another thing going into Aeris’ favor here is the fact that FF7 has been doing an impressive job this contest. Sephiroth is the only one that didn’t impress. Aeris may not be up there with Cloud, Sephiroth, Vincent and Tifa at this point, but she’s not too far off either. She’s still got plenty of fans who like, and the competition here isn’t good enough for her to lose those fans, especially with a hardcore bunch like FF7 fans. Hype up the fighting game fanbase all you like, but there’s a certain percentage -- and much larger than the fighting base -- that will vote for everything FF7 here. I expect to see that happen again. Rightfully so, too! That said, I don’t think Akuma is going to do that poorly here. 20% in a poll with Squall and Aeris isn’t anything to scoff at. I’m not quite buying the hype of him being particularly strong, though. I’d put him around the area of Chun-Li, Bison, Ken, etc. He’s nowhere near Ryu, or even people like Sub-Zero for that matter. He’s going to hanging with the Street Fighter crew, I think. So yeah, Squall wins here, Aeris exceeds most of the expectations for her (get that SFF outta here!!), Akuma brings up a solid third and Geno just sorta hangs out back there around 10%. (p.s. -- SUCK IT AKUMA) Bracket: Squall > Aeris Vote: Aeris Yoblazer’s Analysis My goodness, what a day it has been. Not only has Ryu Hayabusa destroyed the favorite coming in, Riku, but he's standing toe-to-toe with Riku and Roxas's combined percentages. It really is astounding, and a testament to fanbase overlap and just how crazy and unique this entire format is. While others will inevitably try to use these results in order to predict traditional 1v1 matches in the future, I will do no such thing. There have been too many insane results. Too many wild surprises. Too many things that don't coincide with anything from the past five years. Nope, folks, I'm just going to enjoy this roller coaster, and when the next single entrant Character Battle rears its head, I'm just going to pretend this contest never existed. And now, let's smoothly segue into today's match. Like yesterday's, this foursome features characters from a split fanbase and a weaker guy who'll be looking to take advantage. I'm talkin' about Squall Leonhart, Aeris Gainsborogughgough, Geno, and Akuma. Now, I'm usually the cordial, polite guy around these parts, but if anyone dares tell me that Akuma has zero chance after what we've seen today, I will track you, find you, and use my 300 pound bench press to throw you out of any contest discussions from this point henceforth. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/30/2007 8:13:12 PM | message detail |
| Yes, Akuma does have a chance. Squall is the
favorite for first and Aeris is the favorite for second, but the Street
Fighter badass should not be written off. His two main competitors are
both in Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts, so there should be a fairly
strong overlap there. In fact, all three of his opponents are Square,
and Akuma has practically nothing to do with any of them. It's a tough
draw, but very few of us gave him a chance coming in, so it's either do
what's expected and lose or win and prove that he didn't deserve to be
snubbed all these years. Seriously, if this guy is within two or three
leagues of Ryu, then watch out. Of course, he could end up
significantly weaker than Bison and bomb hard, but that's the nature of
the unknown beast. He could blast Aeris in the face or lose to her
handily, and I wouldn't bat an eyelash. Will I take the rest? Not quite; I'm too big a wuss, plus, I it's always a bit harder when you want to pick against your bracket, but no one should be surprised if Akuma pulls a mini-Hayabusa and beats Aeris. Ah, what the hell. I'll take the risk. Things certainly can't look any worse! Squall Leonhart - 35% Akuma - 27% Aeris Gainsborough - 26% Geno - 12% Lopen’s Analysis For the story of this match, look at that pic. First of all: No, I'm talking about that one trick pony Geno. To go off on a small tangent... I've always wondered, man, what if Geno gets to round 2? What are they gonna do, turn him upside down? Invert his colors, maybe? Alright, back on topic... I'm also not talking about that stupid ass Aeris FFVII character art that I loathe, or even the studly Squall picture. Nono... I'm talkin about Akuma. Look at that guy... you know what that kanji means on the back of his shirt? It means "I'm gonna beat the **** out of Aeris," that's what it means. Oh sure, he's looking at Geno... but that's probably because he's going to turn his dense wooden body into a Genoken to throw at her. Okay, seriously now. I picked Akuma to upset here... and it's not just because he's disgruntled and kicks things in the face. And hey, you know, I think the SF2 fanbase knows Akuma pretty well. The "had to be from the original games" factor is overrated. Did you see the RE vs SF match pic in the series contest? Here it be: http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=7&pos=23 Yeahh buddy, that's Akuma getting ready to kick the crap out of that.. uh.. greyish block thing. What is that? Point is, people dug Akuma kickin the crap out of that greyish block thing, I'm sure of it! Akuma is the ideal choice of the Casual SF player, and has potential to be the second strongest character from the series. I'm not sure of that... losing on those first few SF games is pretty , but I definitely think he'll be at least about Bison/Ken's level. ... which should be enough to beat Aeris here. You say WHAAAATTTT!? Yeah, you heard me. First of all, I think fighting game characters do better in this format... just because. I've had this idea from the beginning and it seems to be working with Scorpion, Ryu, and Nightmare. But.. mostly... this may be an odd thing to gamble on, FF7 goin down to FF8, but I'm thinking Squall will SFF the one gil flowers right outta Aeris's possession. And by one gil flowers I mean... one vote... people. Yeah. Squall can dish out some MEAN SFF, and do I think Aeris will hold as well as Vincent did against him? Absolutely not. Aeris just doesn't scream to me "favored by the SFF." You can bring up 2003 Sora. You can bring up 2006 Yuna. The former was probably just weaker then, and the latter doesn't seem strong on the SFF tides either... and may have rSFFed Aeris anyway. We can't really say for sure with that wack female bracket. |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/30/2007 8:13:47 PM | message detail |
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You know, Ryu getting a boost from Ninja Gaiden Sigma and the PS3 doesn't have to just stem from the 10% that have the PS3 on this site. There are probably plenty
of Playstation fans on this site who just haven't had the means to buy
the $500+ system yet. That doesn't stop them from following everything
that goes on with the system. We saw it all the time with the Wii. NGS
got tons of spotlight, being one of the few must get games for
PS3 owners. Plus, the game served as major fuel for the Xbox vs. PS3
debates. All that spotlight among the console war probably helped Ryu
quite a bit on both fronts. --- Currently playing: Call of Duty 2, Maverick Hunter X, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Dead Rising, Tomb Raider Legend |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/30/2007 8:13:51 PM | message detail |
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The point is, the less screaming I hear from Aeris, the better. Lopen's Prediction: Squall - 36.11% Akuma - 26.55% Aeris - 23.44% Firewood - 13.90% Transience’s Analysis hey, this looks familiar -- three characters from the same company and a SF2 character! this match has all kinds of parallels to the Ryu/Bowser match -- a match where Ryu made Bowser look *bad*. with Mewtwo and Toad sucking his votes away, Bowser couldn't even manage 30%. now, Squall is almost definitely stronger than Bowser, and Aeris is probably about equal with Bowser. if one of these guys SFFs the other and Geno leeches some votes, can Akuma sneak in and take second? this match is all about Akuma. how strong is he? is he above the Chun Lis and Bisons of the world? if so, he's got a decent chance.. if not, he probably comes up short. the only chance of him doing that is if Aeris get SFFed to death, and given that she's FF7, I wouldn't count on it. when has FF7 *ever* been SFFed? I can't think of a single occasion. hell, you can make the argument Vincent "rSFFed" Squall, though that's without any backing whatsoever. the point here is that 25% of the site claims FF7 is their favourite game and I don't think they'll abandon Aeris for too much. Aeris should be fine, even though her last contest was less than stellar. Akuma's a cute upset pick, but way too risky for my blood. plus he's got that back to the picture thing i mean what the crap who does he think he is ooh akuma you're so cool can Squall crush Aeris? Akuma might get second but it's not likely transience's prediction: Squall with 35.89%, Aeris with 28.89%, Akuma with 24.44%, Geno with 10.78% Crew Consensus: Squall > Aeris is the favorite, but Akuma lurks in the back of our minds. |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/30/2007 8:26:18 PM | message detail |
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hey, this looks familiar -- three characters from the same company and a SF2 character! Grrrrrr GENO IS A MARIO CHARACTER, HIS GAME JUST HAPPENED TO BE DEVELOPED BY SQUARE Grrrrrr --- Currently playing: Call of Duty 2, Maverick Hunter X, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Dead Rising, Tomb Raider Legend |
| transience | Posted 9/30/2007 8:42:36 PM | message detail |
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mnm more like nintendo fanboy good to see some people went with Akuma! I'm feeling mighty scared of him right now.... he's just so untested. would anybody take Nightmare over Akuma? I wouldn't. --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/30/2007 8:44:03 PM | message detail |
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I wouldn't take anyone over Nightmare, that's how loyal I am! --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe Aeris/Akuma/Geno/Squall - Bracket: Squall > Aeris - Vote: Riku (93/112) |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 9/30/2007 8:46:38 PM | message detail |
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I really hope Akuma kicks Aeris' ass. I just want some fresh blood to
do good. Sure we've seen some returners do good this tournament, but we
haven't had a really good new contestant do too great. Marcus did nice
I guess, but Midna and Balthier were turds. Oh yeah I guess L-Block,
Mudkip, and Bidoof count as new blood too, but there more or less
kickass joke contestants. --- Pokemon Pearl Code: 2663-9266-2709 WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| transience | Posted 9/30/2007 8:51:07 PM | message detail |
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as for tonight's match - let's see if BRACKETS outweigh the FF7 hate we
usually see. I'm really anticipating this, because I have no idea
what's going to happen.. even moreso than the Riku match, and that
ended up confusing the hell out of me. I wonder if my own rally will end up costing me a ton of points? woo Akuma --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
