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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 504

JonPen1416 | Posted 9/30/2007 10:33:25 PM | message detail
So . . . in a 1v1, Nightmare or Akuma? Nightmare is my gut, but Akuma looks decent on arguably stronger competition (Aeris and Squall vs. Snake would be amusing to watch).
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ejm5446 | Posted 9/30/2007 10:40:07 PM | message detail
Personally, I'd like to see Dhalsim, Johnny Cage, and Shun in the contest.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/30/2007 10:42:28 PM | message detail
Akuma is basically up against 2 characters compared to Nigtmare's 3. Snake/Vyse/Rayman > Squall/Aeris/Geno

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/30/2007 10:43:25 PM | message detail
Johnny Cage would bomb. He's too generic looking. Subby and Scorps are very memorable and recognizable. Which is why I think Zangief and E Honda would do much better than Sagat or Vega.

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HeroicJiburas | Posted 9/30/2007 10:45:05 PM | message detail
I'd say Vega is one of the most recognizable other than Ryu. And the mask/claw thing makes him slightly more badass than Sagat.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/30/2007 10:49:55 PM | message detail
You think a generic sumo guy has a more memorable look than VEGA? You're frikking insane BT.
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ejm5446 | Posted 9/30/2007 10:52:31 PM | message detail
Guess I'll have to break out this poll again:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=840

Who is your favorite of the original twelve Street Fighter II characters? - March 24, 2002

35.35% Ryu
15.44% Ken
12.46% Chun-Li
8.33% Guile
7.06% Blanka
6.88% Vega (J:Balrog)
3.31% Sagat
2.92% Dhalsim
2.92% M.Bison (J:Vega)
2.12% E.Honda
2.10% Zangief
1.10% Balrog (J:M.Bison)

TOTAL VOTES 36,561
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/30/2007 10:53:35 PM | message detail
That poll fails for not having Cammy

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The n00b Avenger | Posted 9/30/2007 10:54:16 PM | message detail
original twelve
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/30/2007 10:58:45 PM | message detail
Cammy fails for not being an original SF character then.




Anyway, when we've seen Ryu continuously, Ken twice, Chun-Li twice, M. Bison be comparable to Chun-Li, the difference between M. Bison and Chun-Li in that poll, and how Akuma is doing today (I'm giving this to Aeris/Squall hurting each other more than expected)...

...I don't see the need for another SF character. We've seen what are most likely the three biggest fan-favorites of the SF series, the boss of the most popular SF game and well-known through-out the series, and the likely favorite as far as SF characters not in SF2 go. What more do we really need to see from them?
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Janus5000 | Posted 9/30/2007 10:59:14 PM | message detail
No, the original twelve fails for not having Cammy.
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paraboxx | Posted 9/30/2007 11:00:15 PM | message detail
No, that poll fails because Bison is tied for 8th.

...unless Guile, Blanka, Vega, Sagat and Dhalsim are all above his level.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/30/2007 11:02:30 PM | message detail
From Janus5000
No, the original twelve fails for not having Cammy.

QFT

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transience | Posted 9/30/2007 11:05:22 PM | message detail
SF2's one of those things where you could add characters for years, but they're not going to get any stronger than the Kens and the Chun-Lis of the world. it's the same mentality as FF6 -- "something has to be strong, right?"

it's really tough to gauge where Akuma is here. I'll probably gauge him through Lara next round. if Lara gets less than Akuma, I'd say we have a low midcarder on our hands, just like Chunners and Ken. if Lara does better, Akuma's probably around Kefka level. this format totally obscures strength though, so we really don't know.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/30/2007 11:08:03 PM | message detail
If Ken was oin Akuma's position, then he would have advanced, I actually think that Akuma is the weakest fighting character in this contest.

So Terry Bogard VS Akuma, who wins and who has the horrible taste to vote against da BUSTA WOLF?
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/30/2007 11:09:11 PM | message detail
SF2's one of those things where you could add characters for years, but they're not going to get any stronger than the Kens and the Chun-Lis of the world. it's the same mentality as FF6 -- "something has to be strong, right?"

ryu for the nrt 2k8
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transience | Posted 9/30/2007 11:10:02 PM | message detail
nomatie umaro and balrog
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/30/2007 11:10:50 PM | message detail
Noone's saying these guys will be anywhere near Ken/Chunners (with the possible exception of Guile). We're just passing time during a boring match.

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redrocket | Posted 9/30/2007 11:15:31 PM | message detail
So Terry Bogard VS Akuma, who wins and who has the horrible taste to vote against da BUSTA WOLF?

This match would be Chun Li VS Kasumi 2.

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Janus5000 | Posted 9/30/2007 11:17:43 PM | message detail
Man, with the way Akuma's increasing, I'd almost think he does follow SF2 trends... >_>;
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/30/2007 11:19:35 PM | message detail
Holy crap, just checked how Hayabusa's poll ended...did Hayabusa completely stand up to KH's day-vote? Because 46% > 40% and Hayabusa's opponents > Zero's or Dante's. He also still managed to beat Riku and Roxas combined. Just...holy ****.


I don't really want to over-hype the guy, but he's a potential threat for Round Three that I didn't consider before nor most other people. Riku did get 45% on Yoshi and it'd be practically unanimous that Yoshi > Kirby. It's often talked about that Solid may hurt Kratos, and the more SSBB support he can hold onto the more it hurts Kirby. Hayabusa's got the most independent fanbase, too...

...it's relying a lot on circumstances that I'm not counting on, but Hayabusa advancing alongside Solid for two rounds is possible.
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transience | Posted 9/30/2007 11:22:09 PM | message detail
Akuma's done a great job of slowing Aeris down.. looks like his night vote is indeed better than his day vote. we'll see if he completely collapses or not, I guess. either one wouldn't surprise me.
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Buzzup | Posted 9/30/2007 11:22:16 PM | message detail
If Snake hurts Kratos, he hurts Ryu as well, the argument for Snake 'SFFing' Kratos is the same as the one for Dante SFFing Ryu. A kind of badass SFF if you will. I see Kratos and Ryu having pretty similar fanbases.
transience | Posted 9/30/2007 11:23:05 PM | message detail
and I think weekends this year have very little in terms of trends. there's a small morning vote that disappears before you know it. even Snake didn't lose very much.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 9/30/2007 11:26:09 PM | message detail
Oh and there's only one more SF character who needs a chance in this contest.....

Dan Hibiki Boooojaaajjiiiiiii!
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/30/2007 11:28:52 PM | message detail
Well, lack of trends on the weekend or not, Hayabusa managed noticably more in the match than most people would have counted on...even after several hours into it.
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/1/2007 12:08:47 AM | message detail
Lucas in SSBB. Bad sign for Ness?
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transience | Posted 10/1/2007 12:14:36 AM | message detail
if both of them are in Brawl, that's a mistake. he looks the exact same as Ness.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/1/2007 12:19:07 AM | message detail
I'd really REALLY hate to see Ness go, considering he's an original and kicked so much ass in SSB while starting in SSBM. That said...without cloning again or rather different moves, I can't help but think Ness's role will not be the same in SSBB. It sucks.....
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Lopen | Posted 10/1/2007 12:27:59 AM | message detail
I'd hate to sound like I'm clinging to a possible Akuma comeback, but I'd expect him to have a day vote stronger than any SF character we've seen. Akuma is definitely a casual SF fan's pick, and his claims to fame are from games newer than what we consider to be the backbone of the other SF characters we've seen.

Meanwhile, we know Aeris's night is by far her strongest time, and well, I dunno if Aeris can feel entirely safe right now.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/1/2007 12:39:31 AM | message detail
Well... it actually does seem like Akuma is going to do better in the day. We're only about 30 minutes into the night vote so you can't say anything for sure, but it definitely looks like Akuma is starting to actually do worse than he was in the previous hour or 2. Starting to do worse in the night vote means one of 2 things. Either you're in general a very front-loaded vote person like the Chrono Trigger cast, or you're going to improve in the day.

Considering Akuma's opening vote was very lackluster, I'd think to rule out the former. It's just that, I don't think Akuma's improvement will be anything near enough to win over Aeris. Especially considering that Aeris's best time has just started, so the current lead, which is already nearly 1000, hasn't even started to grow at its maximum rate
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transience | Posted 10/1/2007 12:44:02 AM | message detail
yeah, I'm 99% sure Aeris has this. Akuma may be better than Aeris in the day, but I highly doubt he's going to turn the whole match around. plus, if this night vote is any kind of a clue, he's probably going to be down a huge amount.. especially after Aeris does even more damage to him during that school period. if Akuma has anything resembling SF2's morning vote, good night.
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Lopen | Posted 10/1/2007 12:46:58 AM | message detail
Yeah, I'm not liking Akuma's chances just because the lead is at 900 and growing going into Aeris's best time. But if Akuma keeps her from completely running away (possible, SF's night vote is pretty mighty, though I don't think Akuma will follow those trends) this is still a match.
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TexasAggie | Posted 10/1/2007 12:47:44 AM | message detail
Who has Bowser beating Auron next round?
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Ultimaphazon | Posted 10/1/2007 12:50:03 AM | message detail
Aeris is really surprising me here.
I figured she would get totally massacred by Squall.

Seriously, which FF fan votes Aeris over Squall? I like FF7 a lot more than FF8, but I would never vote Aeris over Squall.

Is she getting SFF'd at all here, or are her current % what you'd expect from their X-stats?
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Draco1214 | Posted 10/1/2007 12:50:20 AM | message detail
I think Auron is a damn near lock to get first in Round 2. Ryu beating Bowser has more of a chance of happening (and looks likely, too).
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Lopen | Posted 10/1/2007 12:52:42 AM | message detail
Mmmm... I dunno if I'd call Auron damn near a lock. Ryu looked arguably more impressive than Auron in round 1, actually.
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Lopen | Posted 10/1/2007 12:55:22 AM | message detail
Well, actually, he just straight up did look more impressive. Thing is people might discount it due to overlap between Bowser and Mewtwo.

I'd still say overlapped Bowser >> Shadow and overlapped Mewtwo >> Pyramid Head. Hell, overlapped Toad > Chris Redfield too.
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JustForFun1988 | Posted 10/1/2007 1:00:26 AM | message detail
Auron a lock ????

Auron/Ryu/Bowser is quite close to Liquid/Ness/Alucard(before the result). Anyone can take first or second in that match but at the moment we aren't too sure yet.
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transience | Posted 10/1/2007 1:01:20 AM | message detail
I feel quite confident in Auron as well. I think most people here are.
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Lopen | Posted 10/1/2007 1:02:44 AM | message detail
NICE. Akuma with two straight updates. One with a bit of authority, even. Come on, Akuma!
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/1/2007 1:05:03 AM | message detail
Akuma just stole all of Geno's votes
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/1/2007 1:12:37 AM | message detail
Well nevermind that about Akuma doing worse in the night. Just took him an extra hour to get going...
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Ultimaphazon | Posted 10/1/2007 1:12:50 AM | message detail
Nobody answered my question the first time, so I'll just ask again:

Is Aeris getting SFF'd at all here by Squall, or are the Squall/Aeris % what you'd expect according to their X-stat values? I'm really surprised she's this close to Squall.
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Lopen | Posted 10/1/2007 1:13:48 AM | message detail
On the one hand, I kind of don't want Akuma to be doing well here, as it suggests he might get stomped come daytime. On the other... the hell with it. Votes are votes. Better stalling/making small gains than to be getting crushed to levels where even a day vote comeback wouldn't help.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/1/2007 1:15:30 AM | message detail
And wow at Geno averaging only 11+% for the past 20 minutes. Talk about a drop off
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XIII_rocks | Posted 10/1/2007 1:16:06 AM | message detail
Akuma for the grand comeback?!?!!?! >_>;

No. Obviously. But that'd be the best thing to happen ever, screw my bracket and FF7

BTW, what is the highest votal'd match so far in this contest?
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XIII_rocks | Posted 10/1/2007 1:16:46 AM | message detail
My first contest 500?!?!

The Boss > Lara > Link

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XIII_rocks | Posted 10/1/2007 1:17:16 AM | message detail
Awww....

*tries again*
JustForFun1988 | Posted 10/1/2007 1:17:21 AM | message detail
WTF, Akuma dies with that update. 46% for Squall.
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