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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 501

H__RR____H | Posted 9/26/2007 11:22:35 AM | message detail
Testing, one-two.....




*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.GameFAQsContests.com
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19


*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left):
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/


*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html


*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm


*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, and thanks to RockMFR for finding the missing ones!
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php


*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

All Time Top 10 Lists:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2002stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2003stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/spring2004stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2004stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/spring2005stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2005stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/july2006stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2006stats.htm

RPguy's Hourly Poll Updates:
http://dana.ucc.nau.edu/jb264/pikachu.gif

HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007

TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

Aprosenf's Poll Script:
http://adamrose.mit.edu/allpolls.txt

GameFAQs' Top 100 Games
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/top10

Manual Poll Updater:
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/pollupdate.php


!! yawa tsoP
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Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio
transience | Posted 9/26/2007 11:25:02 AM | message detail
argh I was just gonna make this

only with a fixed RPGuy link!
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ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD
ZFStix: kill it
H__RR____H | Posted 9/26/2007 11:27:37 AM | message detail
I thought Ulti fixed it last topic. Le whoops.

Regardless, I want a topic I feel comfortable talking in.
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Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio
transience | Posted 9/26/2007 11:38:33 AM | message detail
so far, this match isn't doing a thing. Leon and Vivi like taking turns winning hours while Ridley continues to suck. we'll see if Rids can come back with the afterschool vote.
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ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD
ZFStix: kill it
H__RR____H | Posted 9/26/2007 11:48:54 AM | message detail
Yeah, it's difficult to get excited for this match. I was really hoping for Spyro to do something impressive like Crash did...or at LEAST pull some numbers like Jak did. I guess this is what happens to PS-platformers against more than one character people like alot.
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Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio
transience | Posted 9/26/2007 11:51:01 AM | message detail
this poll is all about two things:

Vivi vs. Pikachu
Leon vs. Dante

the latter is a great buildup while the former is a huge question mark due to Tidus.
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ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD
ZFStix: kill it
H__RR____H | Posted 9/26/2007 11:58:10 AM | message detail
I also noticed something that's a bit of a break-through for MC (though I'm behind on the times now): he beat his first Square character. Aeris smoked him in 2k3, Frog stole one from him in 2k4, Crono 61-39'd him in 2k5, he's lucky Sub-Zero beat him so he wouldn't have lost to Auron in 2k6, and you can even say he's lucky Halo lost to CV in the Series Contest so KH wouldn't have beat his series there too. Hell, looking back even deeper, there was a chance that Cortana would have faced Yuna last year and Halo could have easily faced KH in the Game Contest (though it would have probably won that).

Looks like there has been a LOT of Halo/Square set-ups, but MC finally won one against Yuna and won it big. He'll beat her again next round as well, and perhaps even Round Three if she advances with him again. That's a nice change of pace for the Spartan!
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Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio
transience | Posted 9/26/2007 11:59:21 AM | message detail
I'm actually thinking that performance was less impressive than we thought it was.. just look at Tidus. I can't wait to see who places second there with 'card and Liquid.
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ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD
ZFStix: kill it
H__RR____H | Posted 9/26/2007 12:00:28 PM | message detail
Yeah, Leon/Dante will be great, especially if Ada isn't in it as well. I'm still thinking Tidus won't affect Vivi TOO much though. Pikachu will do better than I once thought he would and will beat Tidus worse than he did this round...but I'm cautious about giving Pikachu any more credit than that. I think we're going to see Leon > Vivi again.
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Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio
H__RR____H | Posted 9/26/2007 12:04:58 PM | message detail
It's possible, sure, but Yuna/Vercetti as 2nd/3rd beats the 2nd/3rd contestants in many matches set up so far and MC has a really high percentage for not being a Noble Niner. Rikku still kicked ass as well while dealing with Vaan in the match with the highest vote totals so far, and Auron isn't looking so bad either I hear.....


I wouldn't rule out Yuna looking more like 2k5 than 2k6 nor that this format isn't flattering to her...but until then (and even then), that was a great win for the Chief.
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Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio
transience | Posted 9/26/2007 12:05:12 PM | message detail
digging deeper, all that FF/MGS SFF stuff comes up with this match again - if you believe Auron/Big Boss is SFF, Yuna/Liquid Snake isn't that far behind. then there's the possibility of any xbox support from Alucard being stripped by Master Chief. there's some overlap in that match, but I don't think we have any idea how it's going to end up going.
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ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD
ZFStix: kill it
Ed Bellis | Posted 9/26/2007 12:07:20 PM | message detail
I know I have my thoughts on this, but who would you guys classify as the biggest stars/turds of the round thus far?

I was actually considering doing a separate mini-writeup for each division about this, so I'm definitely interested in others' thoughts.
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Warsola | Posted 9/26/2007 12:08:46 PM | message detail
Stars: Anything Pokemon related, and Phoenix

Turd: Magus and FFXII, imo >_>
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And if we armed them all with two swords, we'd have four times the votes!
H__RR____H | Posted 9/26/2007 12:11:34 PM | message detail
Yeah, I already thought about MC/Alucard but hadn't thought of Yuna/LS...and Alucard/LS again, too. Their match will be really fun to watch as far as theories go. I don't think Alucard'll hurt MC much though because of Halo 3's release, but time'll tell on what really happens there.
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Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio
LordOfDabu | Posted 9/26/2007 12:14:37 PM | message detail
Serge has been my biggest disappointment thus far.
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H__RR____H | Posted 9/26/2007 12:17:20 PM | message detail
Stars of each division for me: Arthas, Fenix, Big Boss, Link, Liquid, Pikachu
Duds of each division for me: Midna, Shadow, Magus, Zelda, Thrall, Balthier
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Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio
Karma Hunter | Posted 9/26/2007 12:18:38 PM | message detail
Stars:

Master Chief
Meta Knight
Pokemon
MGS
Marcus Fenix

Turds:

Balthier
Midna
Serge
RE characters not from RE4
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H__RR____H | Posted 9/26/2007 12:19:18 PM | message detail
Serge was certainly disappointing, but at least there was some discussion about Serge maybe taking last. There wasn't ever discussion about Balthier maybe not winning his first match, and he lost it in the lowest-voted match thus far to Ada Wong.

I'll give the dud-award to him.
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Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio
RPGuy96 | Posted 9/26/2007 12:19:43 PM | message detail
Tidus and Balthier definitely compete for turd. Leaning Balthier since we can be pretty confident that Ada isn't worth much and he still fell flat on his face. There's a whole lot of dishonourable mentions but those two should be very close to the top.

Stars is trickier because there's a bunch of different ways you can look good - crushing your opposition (MC), vastly surpassing expectations (Arthas), winning a close match as the underdog (Nick)...it's hard to say which is better.
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transience | Posted 9/26/2007 12:23:45 PM | message detail
I've done a lot of star/turd writeups by division, but haven't in a while.. and people are redefining the definition of turd in round 6.

round 6's turd of the round is board 8 though. we got absolutely rocked this division.
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ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD
ZFStix: kill it
H__RR____H | Posted 9/26/2007 12:23:46 PM | message detail
If Ada and Frank West traded percentages, I wouldn't give Balthier such a hard time...but we've seen Ada bomb before and she's not restricted to a system that tends to have a very devout fanbase like the Xbox/360. Tidus would have had to get 30% or less for him to take that award from Balthier for me, and even then I'd still consider Serge being in the poll with him and the Pokemon re-surge.
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Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio
transience | Posted 9/26/2007 12:26:56 PM | message detail
star so far.. is probably Master Chief. an impressive loss or surprising second place finish can't compete with a crushing win, especially when it strikes fear in anyone who didn't take you four or five rounds in. Vincent is another good choice for star.
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ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD
ZFStix: kill it
Lopen | Posted 9/26/2007 12:31:39 PM | message detail
Well relative to my expectations for them:

Stars: Arthas, Marcus Fenix, Meta-Knight, Sam Fisher, Master Chief, Amaterasu
Duds: None, Zelos, Magus, Zero (I called a low %, but I was calling for dudship), Vergil *sob*, Tidus *double sob*

And guys, check it out, when I was looking at my entry:

http://s24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/NeoX-Death/?action=view&current=NEWCOMER.jpg

Think we've got potential for a massive upset against Mario in round 2 with that bracket.
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H__RR____H | Posted 9/26/2007 12:32:32 PM | message detail
Throw in that his match was BEFORE Halo 3's release, and that just makes him look all the better. I could support MC being the star of the round so far, though I really wanna see how he reacts with everyone next round.
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Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio
transience | Posted 9/26/2007 12:32:47 PM | message detail
afterschool vote comes and... uh, Spyro goes up, like you'd expect. other than that, yaaaaawn.

most boring shift ever today
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ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD
ZFStix: kill it
Lopen | Posted 9/26/2007 12:35:38 PM | message detail
Bah, and of course I screw up the link.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/NeoX-Death/NEWCOMER.jpg

Big Bossman... hell it's not even worth it anymore. DAMN IT!
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H__RR____H | Posted 9/26/2007 12:51:59 PM | message detail
Fun lil' question I just tried to answer for myself since I cannot get over how disappointing Balthier was: would you take Balthier to get first ANY four-pack in the contest if he was able to switch places with any one character? His match was already one of the best opportunities possible...but maybe if he took Gordon Freeman's or Sora's? Probably Dante's first-round match...but I wouldn't promise anything.
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Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio
BDawg | Posted 9/26/2007 12:52:39 PM | message detail
I thought Vivi might do a little better in the afternoon than Leon, but I guess neither one of them can withstand those "huge" 12% updates Spyro is pulling in. This just means they better bury Pikachu when they have the chance next round.
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Ed Bellis | Posted 9/26/2007 12:59:00 PM | message detail
Harr, your opinions on stars and duds seem really similar to mine.

From H__RR____H Posted 9/26/2007 3:51:59 PM #027
Fun lil' question I just tried to answer for myself since I cannot get over how disappointing Balthier was: would you take Balthier to get first ANY four-pack in the contest if he was able to switch places with any one character? His match was already one of the best opportunities possible...but maybe if he took Gordon Freeman's or Sora's? Probably Dante's first-round match...but I wouldn't promise anything.

Take out Link and I think he'd at least beat Bidoof. I don't think he's that much of a dud, though I could be wrong.

Actually, take out Zero and put him in that particular four-pack and it'd probably be a close match. Same with Ganondorf's four-pack, though he'd probably lose.

He'd also probably rock Kirby's, unless, say, L-Block surprises tomorrow. Maybe Snake's, too. Maaaybe Gordon's. That's... about it. >_>
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/26/2007 1:01:16 PM | message detail
I'm holding final judgment on Balthier until next round, when we can get a better grasp at where Ada is. Needless to say though, he isn't going to amount for much for me.

Day vote expected to. RE and non-exception Square character falls, Sony platformer and Nintendo rises.
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Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe
Leon/Ridley/Spyro/Vivi- Bracket: Leon > Vivi - Vote: Leon (75/92)
trannyscience | Posted 9/26/2007 1:42:03 PM | message detail
it's not much of a fall. Leon (and Ada) are very steady with vote patterns. Vivi having stable vote patterns pretty much proves he's not from FF9 in most people's eyes. Zidane rocked the night vote while falling in the daytime.
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trannyscience | Posted 9/26/2007 1:42:58 PM | message detail
also, I can't wait to see this picture. I think it decides the match.
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ZFS | Posted 9/26/2007 1:49:34 PM | message detail
Rough idea of what I'm thinking on the Stars/Duds bit.

Stars: Arthas, Fenix, Cloud, Pokemon (augh!!), Vincent, Master Chief, Metal Gear Solid.
Duds: Midna, Serge, Tidus, Balthier, Thrall.

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The Real Truth | Posted 9/26/2007 1:53:45 PM | message detail
I wouldn't put Midna in the Duds category. I thought she did fine. She was up against Scorpion.
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trannyscience | Posted 9/26/2007 2:19:33 PM | message detail
most of those duds are there only because of our expectations. they were completely untested, and in Serge's case, almost expected. Tidus is the only one that can be put in the dud class legitimately, and for all we know that could have just been Pikachu becoming a contest god.

awww yeah
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neonreaper | Posted 9/26/2007 2:35:54 PM | message detail
Midna did as I expected - better than Tingle, worse than Zelda.

...I think when I filled out my bracket I didn't realize Zelda was in it, so I didn't pick her and I though "hmmm Midna made it but no Zelda?"

jagermeister ftw
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trannyscience | Posted 9/26/2007 2:47:25 PM | message detail
question: if Vivi was in Tidus's place, where do you think he'd be at?
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xyzzy
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 9/26/2007 3:08:57 PM | message detail
I would just like to say that Division 6 has been my best division, scoring 14 points.

My only mistake being Tidus > Pikachu.

/brag
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Although that does highlight my abysmal other rounds.
Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/26/2007 3:26:41 PM | message detail
Stars: Arthas, Fenix, Cloud, Pokemon (augh!!), Vincent, Master Chief, Metal Gear Solid.

How is Cloud a star? He performed almost exactly to expectations...like, the Oracle average had him within less than a percent. He wasn't even the most impressive noble niner, relative to expectations.
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Haste_2 | Posted 9/26/2007 3:41:57 PM | message detail
Vivi in place of Tidus? Pikachu still wins... maybe... though it'd probably be closer, though at worst I think Vivi would do equal to Tidus. I honestly think Pikachu was more of a star than Tidus was a turd, looking at the other Pokemon... Tidus did well in comparison to Isaac, at least. It's not like Isaac had to fall off the face of the earth in popularity since his last appearance or something. Tidus might still be a solid mid-carder, but is just hurt by the format a bit.

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Big Bob | Posted 9/26/2007 3:44:17 PM | message detail
Master Chief did about as well as I expected, so I'd probably give the stars award to either Meta Knight or Pikachu, both for hilarity's sake.

Balthier, without a doubt, is the turd. I figured that he would only be a step below Auron, but he couldn't even beat Ada Wong.
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trannyscience | Posted 9/26/2007 3:45:23 PM | message detail
that's your own fault right there.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/26/2007 3:47:32 PM | message detail
Serge isn't much of a turd, really. I don't think I expected him to do quite so bad, but I'm not really shocked he took last place.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 9/26/2007 3:49:37 PM | message detail
I had Serge with 15% yesterday, and he did even worse.

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Master Moltar | Posted 9/26/2007 3:50:34 PM | message detail
Serge disappointed, but he's not turd-worthy.
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Leon/Ridley/Spyro/Vivi- Bracket: Leon > Vivi - Vote: Leon (75/92)
Lopen | Posted 9/26/2007 3:51:16 PM | message detail
You can't really trust Isaca for that much though. Yeah, he got like 18% in the stats but it was because of a blowout match against Samus. Plus it was four years ago.

It's possible he's about constant, but I surely wouldn't put my money on it. Tidus not being favored by this format seems the more likely case than Pikachu earning all of that win. And also as people have said, Tidus/Serge/Isaca fanbase overlap.
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ZFS | Posted 9/26/2007 5:09:12 PM | message detail
How is Cloud a star? He performed almost exactly to expectations...like, the Oracle average had him within less than a percent. He wasn't even the most impressive noble niner, relative to expectations.

Cloud did have the most impressive Noble Nine performer regardless of what the expectations were, though. Putting up 61% on Jill and Ocelot is impressive no matter how you want to slice it. I'm not going to say that he should be on everyone's list, but I certainly consider him one of the most impressive of the round.

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trannyscience | Posted 9/26/2007 5:15:27 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/cb6/cb6-25.jpg

hmm. go L! I don't think that's completely recognizable, though.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 9/26/2007 5:16:17 PM | message detail
Aw, that's kind of a disappointing L-block picture. I was hoping for something more archaic and simple
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ZFS | Posted 9/26/2007 5:16:22 PM | message detail
...

what is that

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