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ZFS | Posted 9/26/2007 7:54:43 PM | message detail
Shinra Guard would rock this thing. Believe.

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The n00b Avenger | Posted 9/26/2007 7:56:27 PM | message detail
1st Class SOLDIER
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creativename | Posted 9/26/2007 7:56:46 PM | message detail
Also while I think discussing a generic enemy contest is fun, an actual contest consisting of only them would be horrible and everyone would hate it :(

They're better as normal entries. i.e., replace un-fun useless fodder (insert Tales character here) with a fun generic who could show some strength.

Though a mini-bracket (no actual contest entries needed) with only, say, 16 entries could work. That would never happen though.
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swirIdude | Posted 9/26/2007 7:57:45 PM | message detail
My vote goes to Arabian Guy from the Crash Bandicoot series.
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JaKyL25 | Posted 9/26/2007 7:58:35 PM | message detail
Would a Duck from Duck Hunt count as a generic enemy?

Polygon Fighter could have surprising strength.
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Seginustemple | Posted 9/26/2007 7:59:31 PM | message detail
Zergling over a Metroid, Goomba or Koopa Troopa? You can't be serious.

I'm confident a zergling could take out Kerrigan. I mean, EVERYONE who has
Starcraft knows what the zergling rush is. It may not be as iconic as a koopa troopa, but wait till those Koreans wake up and BAM! Vote rush to the tune of tens of thousands!
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swirIdude | Posted 9/26/2007 8:00:03 PM | message detail
I'm confident a zergling could take out Kerrigan.

Amazing accomplishment!
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JaKyL25 | Posted 9/26/2007 8:02:39 PM | message detail
Oh God, I just realized how fertile Earthbound is with awesome generic enemies.

Obviously Starman would be the figurehead, but come on, who could resist nominating New Age Retro Hippie or Ramblin' Evil Mushroom?

I mean, just look at this bestiary!

http://strategywiki.org/wiki/EarthBound/Bestiary
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swirIdude | Posted 9/26/2007 8:19:08 PM | message detail
How do you determine what Scorpion would get on Midna in a one-on-one match based on this contest's results? I've seen comparisons like these thrown around.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/26/2007 8:20:09 PM | message detail
Unassuming Local Guy FTW
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Seginustemple | Posted 9/26/2007 8:20:58 PM | message detail
Whoops, I meant to add that Kerrigan can probably beat a goomba. At least I'd hope so.
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JaKyL25 | Posted 9/26/2007 8:24:10 PM | message detail
Whoops, I meant to add that Kerrigan can probably beat a goomba. At least I'd hope so.

If you give the Goomba any sort of iconic pic, and I strongly disagree.
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Nepots | Posted 9/26/2007 8:25:04 PM | message detail
I like the "Queen ***** of the Universe" as much as anyone, but *snurk*.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/26/2007 8:26:39 PM | message detail
How do you determine what Scorpion would get on Midna in a one-on-one match based on this contest's results?

...you don't, really. The best you can say is that Midna would get at least 24.71% on Scorpion and that Scorpion would get at least 36.64% on Midna.

(wow, it was that bad for Midna? thank goodness for Balthier, or she'd have never lived it down)

When people make one-on-one 'comparisons' like that, they're usually taking the individual votals of the characters in the match and comparing them to each other directly, IIRC. So it ends up with Scorpion getting 59.23% on Midna with that method. Of course, the inaccuracies of such a comparison are staggering...
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JaKyL25 | Posted 9/26/2007 8:28:23 PM | message detail
Oh, if you wanted to avoid as much extra baggage as you can with "Zombie," you could resort to calling them "T-Virus Infectees" or something. I mean, they're not zombies in the classic sense.
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creativename | Posted 9/26/2007 8:29:02 PM | message detail
How do you determine what Scorpion would get on Midna in a one-on-one match based on this contest's results? I've seen comparisons like these thrown around.

You use King Morgoth's somewhat complicated, but viable, conditional probability formula to find their x-stat values. Then compare as normal.

Obviously, any match with suspected SFF wouldn't give accurate results.
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creativename | Posted 9/26/2007 8:30:42 PM | message detail
What is "snurk"? Some sort of mutant Smurf/Snork hybrid?

Oh, if you wanted to avoid as much extra baggage as you can with "Zombie," you could resort to calling them "T-Virus Infectees" or something. I mean, they're not zombies in the classic sense.

That's a pretty big difference there..."Zombie" could have noteworthy strength, "T-Virus infectee" would be ungodly weak.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/26/2007 8:31:04 PM | message detail
You use King Morgoth's somewhat complicated, but viable, conditional probability formula to find their x-stat values.

Someone's already come up with something like that? I must have completely spaced it. D'ya have a link?
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Seginustemple | Posted 9/26/2007 8:31:53 PM | message detail
Oh, if you wanted to avoid as much extra baggage as you can with "Zombie," you could resort to calling them "T-Virus Infectees" or something. I mean, they're not zombies in the classic sense.

I don't know, doesn't the definition of zombie include chemical virus as a cause for zombies? They don't just have to be made form magic...
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swirIdude | Posted 9/26/2007 8:32:29 PM | message detail
Imagine Zombie AND Re-Dead in the same contest.
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JaKyL25 | Posted 9/26/2007 8:33:14 PM | message detail
Honestly I have no clue, I just assumed a zombie was a dead person somehow re-animated as a mindless, slow, brain-eating creature.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/26/2007 8:33:32 PM | message detail
My anti-voting passion for ReDeads would know no bounds if they ever "graced" a contest match with their presence.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/26/2007 8:34:14 PM | message detail
Round 1- Division 6 Group A

Characters Involved:

Kirby


Summer 2002 Contest
Southern Division - 14 Seed

Southern Round 1 --- Lost to (3) Jill Valentine, 32837 [46.66%] - 37539 [53.34%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 17th Place [25.54%]

Summer 2003 Contest
Southern Division - 3 Seed

Southern Round 1 --- Defeated (14) Ramza Beoulve, 57862 [57.66%] - 42482 [42.34%]
Southern Quarterfinal --- Lost to (6) Alucard, 48818 [47.79%] - 53328 [52.21%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 25th Place [25.49%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Midgar Division - 5 Seed

Midgar Round 1 --- Defeated (12) Kain, 52012 [64.65%] - 28436 [35.35%]
Midgar Quarterfinal --- Lost to (4) Squall, 42084 [44.99%] - 51462 [55.01%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 22nd Place [26.61%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Dream Division - 1 Seed

Dream Round 1 --- Defeated (8) Cecil, 67556 [75.21%] - 22267 [24.79%]
Dream Semifinal --- Defeated (4) Tidus, 58825 [57.65%] - 43215 [42.35%]
Dream Final --- Lost to (3) Bowser, 39857 [47.88%] - 43392 [52.12%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 13th Place [32.06%]

Summer 2006 Contest
Blast Division - 3 Seed

Blast Round 1 --- Defeated (6) Prince of Persia, 75274 [61.70%] - 46729 [38.30%]
Blast Semifinal --- Lost to (2) Luigi, 50890 [47.69%] - 55812 [52.31%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 23rd Place [32.06%]


Kirby's always been a force in the contest, but his real shining year in 2005, where he got a 1-seed and managed to go toe to toe with Bowser after dominating his half of the division. Last year he seems to have disappointed against Luigi, but that was the same Luigi that beat Zero, apparantly a Luigi that was on the high-seed roids that Kirby experienced the previous year. Nonetheless, Kirby is looking to dominate this fourpack.

L-Block

Easily the best joke entrant this year, made even better by the fact that it has a chance to advance here.

Laharl


Summer 2004 Contest
Midgar Division - 9 Seed

Midgar Round 1 --- Lost to (8) Vyse, 27360 [39.77%] - 41440 [60.23%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 52nd Place [14.25%]

Summer 2005 Contest
20XX Division - 6 Seed

20XX Round 1 --- Lost to (3) Yoshi, 25949 [26.34%] - 72563 [73.66%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 62nd Place [14.01%]


Another one of those "why do people keep nominating you?" characters, Laharl is mid-high fodder and hopes that the L-block bombs in order to advance. Yeah, he's that crappy.

Nathan Hale

Star of the PS3 exclusive Resistance: Fall of Man, Nathan hopes to set a new record for suckitude here.

Predictions:

Another fodderific fourpack with a strong character at the helm, Kirby gets to flex his muscles before being tested against Kratos of God of War fame next round. Once again the real debate lies in second place. We can basically rule out Nathan Hale because lol ps3. Which leaves us with Laharl and the L-block.

Laharl may look really weak in the 2k5 stats, but you have to remember that he was behind that Mega Man/Yoshi anomaly, so he has a decent shot here, especially given how Sailor Bacon managed to screw up the picture of a freaking Tetris block.

L-block needs some joke votes to advance here, especially since Laharl will be pulling on his cult status to favour him (though admittedly, cult characters have been extremely disappointing so far this year). I still think the L-Block pulls it off.

TuRtLe's Prediction: Kirby 48%, L-block 22%, Laharl 20%, Nathan 10%
TuRtLe's Bracket: Kirby > L-block
TuRtLe's Vote: L-block


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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/26/2007 8:47:53 PM | message detail
Laharl's Laugh>Albedo's Laugh>Kefka's Laugh>all laughs
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/26/2007 8:49:34 PM | message detail
Anyone think L-Block will have a the same voting style as Tetris? I don't think Laharl moves too much during the night/day so we're going to have to hope Kirby sucks up all the after school votes.
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swirIdude | Posted 9/26/2007 8:51:00 PM | message detail
I remember my reaction to Laharl after he was announced in the 2004 bracket.

"Nobody can spell Laharl's name. Doesn't that make it obvious that he shouldn't be a 9 seed?"
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/26/2007 8:51:38 PM | message detail
People can't spell Laharl's name?
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/26/2007 8:52:21 PM | message detail
Lawlharl.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/26/2007 8:52:21 PM | message detail
Also, does anyone else think Kirby might SFF L-block? I mean Pac-man is essentially a strong joke character at this point, and we see how he does when put up against other older Nintendo characters.
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swirIdude | Posted 9/26/2007 8:53:05 PM | message detail
People can't spell Laharl's name?

In 2004, I saw so many typos of his name, so I made that comment.

My favorite was Lahurl, I ended up adopting that one.
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swirIdude | Posted 9/26/2007 8:53:33 PM | message detail
Also, does anyone else think Kirby might SFF L-block?

It is in the prophecy. Dweebenheimer!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/26/2007 8:54:40 PM | message detail
Oh man. I don't even know what that means. I remember someone used to say dweebenheimer, but what prophecy? Stupid things I don't get! *kicks a random passerby*
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Seginustemple | Posted 9/26/2007 8:54:54 PM | message detail
It's like mexican vomit or something....
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/26/2007 8:56:20 PM | message detail
Who cares about those losers?

I'm ready to see Kirby own faces. aww yeah
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Kirby/L-Block/Laharl/Nathan- Bracket: Kirby > L-Block - Vote: Kirby (79/96)
KamikazePotato | Posted 9/26/2007 8:57:02 PM | message detail
Kirby might actually equal Cloud's % simply because of the horrific weakness of this 4-pack.
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JaKyL25 | Posted 9/26/2007 8:57:12 PM | message detail
I'm ready to see Kirby own faces. aww yeah

Good thing L-Block doesn't have a face.
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ZFS | Posted 9/26/2007 8:57:14 PM | message detail
Lawlharl.

aww yeah

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swirIdude | Posted 9/26/2007 8:57:40 PM | message detail
How can you forget MasterMage already?

He's in the prophecy! Dweebenheimer!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/26/2007 8:58:02 PM | message detail
Oh, right him. Now I remember!
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/26/2007 8:59:19 PM | message detail
Good thing L-Block doesn't have a face.

...Alright, you win this round.
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Kirby/L-Block/Laharl/Nathan- Bracket: Kirby > L-Block - Vote: Kirby (79/96)
Chinballz | Posted 9/26/2007 8:59:34 PM | message detail
Where did that L-Block pic come from? Tetris: Virtual Boy Edition?

Oh, and obligatory *OMG 500 TOPIX!* post.
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Keno316 | Posted 9/26/2007 8:59:58 PM | message detail
GO GO Weird match!
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Xcarvengery | Posted 9/26/2007 9:00:17 PM | message detail
Kirby 27.27% 3
L-Block 72.73% 8
Laharl 0% 0
Nathan Hale 0% 0
TOTAL VOTES 11

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Master Moltar | Posted 9/26/2007 9:00:24 PM | message detail
Kirby 20.99%

17
L-Block 53.09%

43
Laharl 18.52%

15
Nathan Hale 7.41%

6
TOTAL VOTES 81

wut
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Kirby/L-Block/Laharl/Nathan- Bracket: Kirby > L-Block - Vote: Kirby (79/96)
Keno316 | Posted 9/26/2007 9:00:47 PM | message detail
HAHA! Go L-Block!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/26/2007 9:00:52 PM | message detail
So, um, what the hell
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/26/2007 9:00:55 PM | message detail
Kirby 21.97% 29
L-Block 49.24% 65
Laharl 19.7% 26
Nathan Hale 9.09% 12
TOTAL VOTES 132

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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/26/2007 9:01:08 PM | message detail
DESTROY THEM ALL, BLOCK.
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Nepots | Posted 9/26/2007 9:01:09 PM | message detail
Kirby 18.18%

6
L-Block 57.58%

19
Laharl 21.21%

7
Nathan Hale 3.03%

1
TOTAL VOTES 33

Eeesh.
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Tediz247 | Posted 9/26/2007 9:01:12 PM | message detail
lol Kirby
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