GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 499
| The Mana Sword | Posted 9/25/2007 3:16:36 PM | message detail |
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I still want Gilgamesh to get into one of these. --- Kleenex - Not on his computer. |
| Big Bob | Posted 9/25/2007 3:17:59 PM | message detail |
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I do find it funny that random pokemon are outperforming the FFVI characters people are always rallying for. --- September 29th: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=38262325 |
| Warsola | Posted 9/25/2007 3:18:11 PM | message detail |
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SC2k8: First Round Gilgamesh: 75,001 (50.00%) Frog: 75,002 (50.00%) Frog shot out to a 4,000 vote lead, bled it all away in one hour, fell behind 2,000 votes going into the last hour, and then came back. Frog being Frog. --- And if we armed them all with two swords, we'd have four times the votes! |
| wavedash101 | Posted 9/25/2007 3:18:26 PM | message detail |
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Someday Gilgamesh will star in his own FF...but who would accompany him? --- Our shields cannot withstand wavedashing of this magnitude! Annoying posters! I am the great wavedash! [no u cru] |
| Lopen | Posted 9/25/2007 3:19:15 PM | message detail |
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X-Death and Enkidu, duh. No more star power needed. --- Raiden, Kirby, my stat analyses and my own face all suck horribly. Note to everyone on Board 8: XIII_rocks never loses sig bets. |
| The Mana Sword | Posted 9/25/2007 3:19:51 PM | message detail |
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SC2k8: First Round Gilgamesh: 75,001 (50.00%) Frog: 75,002 (50.00%) I'd find that perfectly acceptable! --- Kleenex - Not on his computer. |
| Warsola | Posted 9/25/2007 3:20:54 PM | message detail |
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oops....typo sorries Gilgamesh: 5,001 (2.78%) Frog: 175,001 (97.22%) --- And if we armed them all with two swords, we'd have four times the votes! |
| The Mana Sword | Posted 9/25/2007 3:22:03 PM | message detail |
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Funny guy, that War. --- Kleenex - Not on his computer. |
| ZhangJunyi | Posted 9/25/2007 3:56:08 PM | message detail |
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Geese Howard needs in this contest. Because if he isn't in it next year, he'll kick you out a ****ing building. --- Not changing this sig until Cena, Batista, & Lashley lose their titles. Started: 1/24/07 http://www.dailymotion.com/PrivateBiscuit01 |
| armitage999 | Posted 9/25/2007 4:10:47 PM | message detail |
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I know I haven't really followed these contests all that much stat
wise, but I seem to remember Pikachu being so weak in these contests a
long time ago. When did he get so much stronger? I'd never have
imagined him beating Tidus a few years ago, or even keeping it that
close for that matter. --- Insert sig here |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/25/2007 4:12:44 PM | message detail |
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well, it's three things: - Pikachu is stronger - Tidus is weaker - this format, and the leeching Serge is doing everyone has opinions on how much of each is responsible for this result, but I don't think anyone would argue against the three points. --- xyzzy http://www.ksot.com/GameFAX.htm |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/25/2007 4:25:19 PM | message detail |
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Pikachu also has had all of 3 matches. 2 of them were in 2k2, and the
other was a SFF match that was followed up by another SFF match. People
wrote him off, but he really hasn't gotten much of a chance in these
contests. --- Currently playing: Call of Duty 2, Maverick Hunter X, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Dead Rising, Tomb Raider Legend |
| Tohoya | Posted 9/25/2007 5:02:29 PM | message detail |
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Pikachu also has had all of 3 matches. 2 of them were in 2k2, and
the other was a SFF match that was followed up by another SFF match.
People wrote him off, but he really hasn't gotten much of a chance in
these contests. I know 2k2 is unreliable, but come on, he only got 55% on Parappa . How do you go from that weak to beating Tidus? --- "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." --Ezekiel 23:20 |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 9/25/2007 5:03:09 PM | message detail |
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Probably the same way you go from tying Ganondorf to losing to the one that got 55% on Parappa >_> --- This story is not an end yet. Because only you are in the infinity loop. |
| NotTerrafire | Posted 9/25/2007 5:04:21 PM | message detail |
| In 2002, Pokemanz were much more popular with the
kidz, and this meant that PIkachu, as the series mascot, became the
scapegoat for the blame for the actions of 11 year old Pokemon fans. Now things are a little less crazy, and it's just another series. |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/25/2007 5:05:45 PM | message detail |
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I pretty much expected this after seeing Mudkip and Mewtwo. Pokemon
hate was rampant here in 2002/2003 but like Xbox hate its basically
irrelevant now. --- Demyx is better than Axel. I don't like Haley Scarnato |
| Haste_2 | Posted 9/25/2007 5:09:42 PM | message detail |
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If Vivi was in the poll instead of Tidus do you think Pikachu could be winning, or at least matching Vivi? --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| NotTerrafire | Posted 9/25/2007 5:11:23 PM | message detail |
| Hmm... difficult to say, but I have a feeling Vivi would actually SFF Pikachu (getting the cutesy character vote) whilst collecting the Final Fantasy vote, and so would handily win. |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/25/2007 5:11:33 PM | message detail |
| probably about a tie. that's a pure guess though.
let's wait and see Vivi tomorrow before throwing expectations on him -
he's got a range. --- xyzzy http://www.ksot.com/GameFAX.htm |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/25/2007 5:18:38 PM | message detail |
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I think Vivi would be winning here, because he's straight-up stronger
than Tidus and this format could be potentially beneficial to Vivi and
is probably harmful to Tidus. --- Mustache...and green... www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/25/2007 5:20:11 PM | message detail |
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what happened to the whole "negating antivotes" thing? --- xyzzy http://www.ksot.com/GameFAX.htm |
| ZFS | Posted 9/25/2007 5:25:18 PM | message detail |
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I think it's less to do with anti-votes and more to do with the fact
that Tidus just isn't the "type" of character who's going to do well
here. It's not like he's got a particularly hardcore following. --- let's mosey |
| Haste_2 | Posted 9/25/2007 5:26:06 PM | message detail |
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Even with that, I wasn't expecting this much out of Pikachu... (though
I suppose I should've). I mean, Pikachu only got 20% of the vote
against Cloud way back when where Pika's anti-votes were at a minimum. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/25/2007 5:36:09 PM | message detail |
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I have never subscribed to the theory that antivotes don't matter in
this format, because they're votes that the character in question isn't
getting and his opponents are. Split three ways, yes, but they'd
probably favour the stronger character anyway. Tidus' problem, I think, is that a fair amount of his strength is from people who like FFX but don't think particularly highly of him. That can sustain him (somewhat) in a one on one match, but stick two more people in and more of those votes will drift away to the others. This can be generalized to a lot of the other non fan-favourite leads, I think (you could draw Serge and probably Pikachu into this as well). Vivi might suffer from that (hey, it's a black mage, cool!), but he also strikes me as the kind of character that appears closer to the top of favourite lists and would be harder to dislodge than someone like Tidus. --- Mustache...and green... www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/25/2007 5:38:43 PM | message detail |
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Vivi would probably be the strongest FFIX character even without the BMF. Everyone seems to like him. --- The apples were too strong for him.- Abomstar |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/25/2007 5:40:59 PM | message detail |
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yeah, he holds up better because his fans care about him more. I don't disagree there. but Tidus is drawing from a *much* larger pool of voters. FF10 just dwarfs FF9. I'm not convinced Vivi is going to be some beast just because he didn't get SFFed by Sephiroth. I want to see him do it before crowning an FF9 character as the favourite when the FF10 lead just flopped horribly. --- xyzzy http://www.ksot.com/GameFAX.htm |
| Draco1214 | Posted 9/25/2007 5:41:09 PM | message detail |
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I think Black Mage Factor matters a lot less than people think. He
wouldn't have held up so well against Sephiroth if that were most of
his strength. --- Currently Playing: Wild Arms 3, Persona 3 |
| swirIdude | Posted 9/25/2007 5:41:58 PM | message detail |
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The BMF is essential. Spells. Peoples Fall Down. You get the idea. --- http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2636/ivotedphoenixyi0.png http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2931/ivotededgeworthck7.png |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/25/2007 5:43:14 PM | message detail |
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also, I think using any SFF argument with a character as strong as
Sephiroth is dangerous. put Vivi against a weaker guy like Auron and he
still gets blitzed, I think. it's just that the numbers line up a lot
better with Sephiroth because the difference in strength is so huge. Cloud/Vyse vs. Tifa/Vyse is the best example here. --- xyzzy http://www.ksot.com/GameFAX.htm |
| Warsola | Posted 9/25/2007 5:44:26 PM | message detail |
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Sonic > Cloud due to Tifa CONFIRMED! --- And if we armed them all with two swords, we'd have four times the votes! |
| ZFS | Posted 9/25/2007 5:46:20 PM | message detail |
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At this point, it's hard for me to even think that Tidus is remotely
representative of FF10 anymore. He's been doing this for years straight
now -- underperforming when he shouldn't. I think Vivi would win that
one pretty easy one-on-one, too. This format should certainly be more
favorable to someone like Vivi over Tidus as well, regardless of where
they come from. I don't even think you can necessarily stick Vivi with
being from FF9 either. His appeal goes beyond his game. --- let's mosey |
| Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 9/25/2007 5:47:36 PM | message detail |
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Is it possible that cute, mascoty characters that have any kind of
recognizability behind them just seem to have an advantage in this
format, or is it just that Pokemon is up this year? --- Can't think of a good sig. |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/25/2007 5:48:57 PM | message detail |
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Mog for sc2k8 --- xyzzy http://www.ksot.com/GameFAX.htm |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/25/2007 5:49:03 PM | message detail |
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Eh, I'm not sure of that. Unquestionably, more people like FFX than
FFIX, or at least rate it higher, but I wouldn't draw conclusions about
playership rate based on that. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1250 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=357 Old polls, but FFX's 68% isn't horribly different from FFIX's 55%'s. --- Mustache...and green... www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| ZFS | Posted 9/25/2007 5:49:35 PM | message detail |
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And as someone who considers Tidus one of his favorite characters, I do
believe that my vote next round may he headed to Vivi in order to avoid
a disaster! --- let's mosey |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/25/2007 5:52:09 PM | message detail |
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Yes, it's the best game ever! 9.68% 970 Yes, it's the best Final Fantasy ever! 10.84% 1086 combine those percentages and I think it's more than Zidane got in his entire match. I certainly wouldn't take anything away from that. I've always felt that FF9 is liked just fine here, it's just that it's unknown or forgotten for the most part. it's pretty much the only explanation I can come up with. FF8 is "hated" more than FF9, but it's drawing from a fanbase that's probably twice its size so it doesn't hurt it as much. anti-votes and "who?" votes are pretty much the same thing. thinking FF12 is the new FF9 here, too. not so much hated as nobody cares. --- xyzzy http://www.ksot.com/GameFAX.htm |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/25/2007 5:52:32 PM | message detail |
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aww yeah HM in damage control mode come to the dark side -- the FF9 side --- xyzzy http://www.ksot.com/GameFAX.htm |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/25/2007 5:54:48 PM | message detail |
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Join us Join us --- The apples were too strong for him.- Abomstar |
| ZFS | Posted 9/25/2007 5:56:02 PM | message detail |
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the dark side doesn't have enough belts --- let's mosey |
| Keno316 | Posted 9/25/2007 5:56:27 PM | message detail |
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FF9 IS the best FF though. >> --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB *Claims KG's Eclair, C.C. & Tear Grants* |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/25/2007 5:56:38 PM | message detail |
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hats and robes and hats and robes --- xyzzy http://www.ksot.com/GameFAX.htm |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/25/2007 5:58:03 PM | message detail |
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Join the forgotten ones You will not escape --- The apples were too strong for him.- Abomstar |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/25/2007 5:59:04 PM | message detail |
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And on SFF, I think the big guys can probably SFF the little guys more
than the little guys can do to themselves. There are some
counterexamples (Aerith/Sora springs immediately to mind), but in the
general case I would expect Vivi to look the same or worse against
Sephiroth as against Auron. Bowser gets 36% on Mario measuring through SFF'd Ness, which sounds about right, for instance. And Link/Yoshi and Mega Man/Yoshi imply that Mega Man gets only 28% on Link, which means that Link SFF'd Yoshi considerably more than Mega Man did. --- Mustache...and green... www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| ZFS | Posted 9/25/2007 5:59:47 PM | message detail |
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FF9 IS the best FF though. what are these liez --- let's mosey |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/25/2007 6:00:31 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, FF5 is better. --- Kleenex - Now with an invigorating blast of citrus cherry flavor. CB6 - 63/88; Oracle - 22nd |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/25/2007 6:01:28 PM | message detail |
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While I agree with that RPG, there are some extreme circumstances where that isn't true (see: Vyser against Cloud and Tifa). --- The apples were too strong for him.- Abomstar |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/25/2007 6:04:47 PM | message detail |
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Was that SFF, though? We've had other instances where an elite kills
supposedly unrelated fodder (I'm looking at you, 2k4 Samus), and that
could have been at play more than Final Fantasy VII/Skies of Arcadia
SFF. I don't really have a good explanation for that one, though. --- Mustache...and green... www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/25/2007 6:14:45 PM | message detail |
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well, for a more realistic example, I'll take a match that never
happened: something else Square vs. Xenogears. FF6 or something crushes
Xenogears just about as badly as FF7 did, I think. or for characters, I
think Zidane gets 20% on Cloud while Squall gets 28% or whatever it
was. it's just tough to noticably SFF something when you're that much
stronger. --- xyzzy http://www.ksot.com/GameFAX.htm |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/25/2007 6:21:54 PM | message detail |
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Those numbers you gave for Zidane say that Squall gets 36% on Cloud,
which is ballpark to what he would actually get before SFF, I think. --- Mustache...and green... www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/25/2007 6:23:52 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1770 gah. Cloud really whooped his ass. remember, kids, Squall can't SFF anyone! --- xyzzy http://www.ksot.com/GameFAX.htm |
