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ZFS | Posted 9/24/2007 10:09:25 PM | message detail
Saying you "hate Pikachu" is like saying you hate Barney the dinosaur. It may have made you cool in the 5th grade, but it would just make you look like a tool now.

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swirIdude | Posted 9/24/2007 10:09:39 PM | message detail
I mean, how many Board 8ers play competitive Pokemon?

That's one of the reasons I have Pikachu going as far as I do.


I hope it's not a very strong one, since we account for so few votes.
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Haste_2 | Posted 9/24/2007 10:10:23 PM | message detail
*sees poll results for the first time*

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>XD

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/24/2007 10:10:24 PM | message detail
Unlike Barney the dinosaur, Pikachu is from a franchise that's one of the best selling franchises to date. If Barney was the star of..... The Simpsons for example, kids would hate on him, but would gradually accept him over time for what he's a part of.

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Master Moltar | Posted 9/24/2007 10:10:38 PM | message detail
If Pikachu doesn't 40% with the day vote, I'll be surprised.

And wow, can't we just say that series like MGS and Pokemon are benefiting from this format instead of, "lol boostboostboost midcard all pokemon are strong boostboost"
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swirIdude | Posted 9/24/2007 10:11:01 PM | message detail
Unlike Barney the dinosaur, Pikachu is from a franchise that's one of the best selling franchises to date. If Barney was the star of..... The Simpsons for example, kids would hate on him, but would gradually accept him over time for what he's a part of.

Note how this theory has done WONDERS for Jar Jar Binks!
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transience | Posted 9/24/2007 10:11:02 PM | message detail
Saying you "hate Pikachu" is like saying you hate Barney the dinosaur. It may have made you cool in the 5th grade, but it would just make you look like a tool now.

now, I've never seen the Pokemon TV show in my life

but I have no idea what the hell this means
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creativename | Posted 9/24/2007 10:11:48 PM | message detail
what


what


I agree...Barney the Dinosaur...what the hell was that??
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NClark128 | Posted 9/24/2007 10:12:00 PM | message detail
Pikachu isn't as "kiddy" as you guys would think. Most of the hardcore Pokemon players are in their late teens/twenties.

I mean, how many Board 8ers play competitive Pokemon?

That's one of the reasons I have Pikachu going as far as I do.


Good points, though I think it may have less to do with competitive Pokemon and more to do with Smash Bros.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/24/2007 10:12:17 PM | message detail
But Jar Jar is from the crappy Star Wars movies.

Everyone hated Ewoks when Jedi first came out, but now everyone loves the little guys.

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Lopen | Posted 9/24/2007 10:12:27 PM | message detail
No, I'm just gonna have to disagree here. You do not simply accept and enjoy every annoying aspect of a product, just because it's part of the product.

If Pikachu increased I blame it on Smash because spamming Down + B is the greatest thing ever.
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swirIdude | Posted 9/24/2007 10:12:53 PM | message detail
Everyone hated Ewoks when Jedi first came out, but now everyone loves the little guys.

Bastards. I always loved the Ewoks.
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almightyblue | Posted 9/24/2007 10:13:42 PM | message detail
Even if Snake somehow manages to SFF Kirby, which, from both Nintendo characters we've seen him face since his boost, does not look probable, he should have an even more detrimental effect on Kratos. Considering they share a system and a badass character type, it's just as likely that Snake will siphon votes from Kratos
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/24/2007 10:14:30 PM | message detail
tranny, certainly you remember in grade school how kids would constantly hate on Barney because he's "kiddy and stupid"?

That's pretty much the same reason why Pikachu was hated. "If you like Pikachu, that makes you a childish loser" was the mentality back then, but now as people grow older, they care less about having a "cool" image like that.

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paraboxx | Posted 9/24/2007 10:15:02 PM | message detail
Question.

Why are people so convinced of Vivi's success when:
- Vivi is from FF9
- Zidane is also from FF9
- Zidane is the next best thing to fodder
- Square characters are dying in this format (not all of them, but enough)

I'm not saying Vivi's screwed. I'm not making any serious predictions for a good long while. I'm just asking, that's all.

(And for anyone who answers - please ignore the x-stats as much as possible, since this contest seems to be doing so at least half the time.)
creativename | Posted 9/24/2007 10:15:29 PM | message detail
I declare that this Barney/Star Wars/Ewoks/Jar-Jar discussion is not tangential enough.

This topic should now focus on THE PRINCESS BRIDE and...uh...X-Men.

Andrew the Giant vs. Nightcrawler - who wins?
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transience | Posted 9/24/2007 10:15:54 PM | message detail
also, am I seeing the idea of Snake/Yoshi SFF going on here?

tell me this isn't serious.

Yoshi (2006c) VS Bowser (2006c)

Yoshi has a strength of 36.84.
Bowser has a strength of 32.44.

Yoshi wins with 55.97% of the vote!
A win of 14,380 with 120,400 total votes cast.

Riku has a strength of 33.01.
Sora has a strength of 35.13.

Sora wins with 53.02% of the vote!
A win of 7,845 with 130,002 total votes cast.

let's stop before we come up with any other crazy theories, like Ada being equal to Leon.
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swirIdude | Posted 9/24/2007 10:15:55 PM | message detail
I'm confident in Vivi taking 2nd place twice.

That's it. I have Leon over him twice.

Which means Vivi beats Leon in both matches.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/24/2007 10:16:10 PM | message detail
But Pikachu sucked in Melee, which was out in 2002 anyways.

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Master Moltar | Posted 9/24/2007 10:16:11 PM | message detail
Because 30% on Seph and 45% on Zelda are good signs that you don't suck.
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transience | Posted 9/24/2007 10:16:15 PM | message detail
who the hell is Andrew the Giant

that cracked me the hell up
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/24/2007 10:16:31 PM | message detail
tranny's too old to remember Barney.

They had real dinosaurs back then.
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Tai | Posted 9/24/2007 10:16:32 PM | message detail
Because most people believe pikachu to embody everything people hate about pokemon, and nothing they love about it, therefore making it really damn funny that she's somehow has strength now.

Fixed.
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transience | Posted 9/24/2007 10:17:30 PM | message detail
45% on Zelda? when did this happen?
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swirIdude | Posted 9/24/2007 10:17:48 PM | message detail
2005.
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transience | Posted 9/24/2007 10:18:12 PM | message detail
yeah Barney was something that showed up when I was like 11 or 12

freaking Mr. Snuffalupagus owns that ass
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/24/2007 10:18:21 PM | message detail
40%!

augh this topic is melting my brain
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swirIdude | Posted 9/24/2007 10:18:36 PM | message detail
Also, Zelda had awesome TP art in that Vivi match.
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transience | Posted 9/24/2007 10:18:53 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2075
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/24/2007 10:19:00 PM | message detail
SERGE CUTS ISAAC HERE WE GO
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Xcarvengerx | Posted 9/24/2007 10:19:11 PM | message detail
Um, is this the Barney we are talking about?

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/4/586044_46703_front.jpg

>_>
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creativename | Posted 9/24/2007 10:19:30 PM | message detail
who the hell is Andrew the Giant

I didn't even realize I typo'd that until I read this. Andrew the Giant - total fodder ;)

I wonder if Nightcrawler would take the 'night' vote against Andre...
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/24/2007 10:20:26 PM | message detail
I'd take Yoshi in a rematch over Bowser

And why is Riku being a midcarder that alarming?

Kingdom Hearts 2 boosted Sora through the roof and let Axel be a low midcarder, why can't it have made Riku go from low midcarder to high midcarder?

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ZFS | Posted 9/24/2007 10:20:39 PM | message detail
Square characters are dying in this format (not all of them, but enough)

I think people are running with this idea way too fast. Check it out -- Rikku, Cloud, Auron, Sephiroth, Vincent, and Crono have all performed at least to a satisfactory degree. Most of them have had impressive performances. I'm even willing to say that Zidane didn't do too bad all things considered.

Characters like Balthier and Tidus are performing terribly relative to their expectations. There was reason enough to be suspect of both of them -- admittedly, I wouldn't have done such before the contest began. Vivi could much sooner be grouped with the former pack over the later. He's been a pretty proven, reliable character who hasn't been on any decline.

I'm thinking Vivi is going to surprise tomorrow with his performance. I'm confident -- maybe I'm just hopeful after these past couple of matches -- he has nothing to worry about from Pikachu at the least. Vivi can hold up well against Square SFF; Tidus quite clearly can't. There won't be a split there.

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Lopen | Posted 9/24/2007 10:20:44 PM | message detail
How has Square been "dying" anyway? FFXII has sucked, Sephiroth did poorly. And then Tidus here. That's about it, really.

Sephiroth is the only one that totally blindsides me (I expected Vaan)... the others have good arguments to support doing poorly.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/24/2007 10:20:45 PM | message detail
No, this is.

http://animatedtv.about.com/library/graphics/barney.jpg
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paraboxx | Posted 9/24/2007 10:20:50 PM | message detail
Because 30% on Seph and 45% on Zelda are good signs that you don't suck.

So are:
- 42.35% on Kirby
- 35.22% on Mega Man
- 49.32% on Ganondorf (old, but who cares)
creativename | Posted 9/24/2007 10:21:21 PM | message detail
Quick, who wins in a GameFAQs poll:

Barney the Dinosaur or Barney from the Simpons?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/24/2007 10:22:01 PM | message detail
Vivi might as well not be a Final Fantasy 9 character.

I hated everything about that game except Vivi. He kicked ass.

Plus the whole Black Mage Factor.

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swirIdude | Posted 9/24/2007 10:22:02 PM | message detail
- 49.32% on Ganondorf (old, but who cares)

dot dot dor
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creativename | Posted 9/24/2007 10:22:57 PM | message detail
No, this is.

http://animatedtv.about.com/library/graphics/barney.jpg


Wow, you read my mind.
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paraboxx | Posted 9/24/2007 10:23:26 PM | message detail
If we're going to pay attention to 2003 x-stats for Pikachu, I don't see why we can't do it for Tidus.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/24/2007 10:24:09 PM | message detail
I think Pikachu is right now proving his 2k3/2k2 stats are damn near useless. Tidus is doing the same.

TuRtLe
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swirIdude | Posted 9/24/2007 10:24:25 PM | message detail
Pikachu is behind double SFF in 2003, who would use that stat?
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Xcarvengerx | Posted 9/24/2007 10:24:28 PM | message detail
No, this is. http://animatedtv.about.com/library/graphics/barney.jpg

Wow... o_O

But I thought it is Barney the Dinosaur... <_<
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Lopen | Posted 9/24/2007 10:25:07 PM | message detail
Tidus just stalled Pika there, why are we not rejoycing?
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Heroic Dr Wily | Posted 9/24/2007 10:25:13 PM | message detail
Tidus for Turd of the Round.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/24/2007 10:25:30 PM | message detail
That's what Barney became when he grew up.

A sad, sad alcoholic.
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swirIdude | Posted 9/24/2007 10:25:32 PM | message detail
Are we making a new 499 or using the fake one?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/24/2007 10:25:42 PM | message detail
I'll never understand how people use Master Chief getting the energy sword as a reason for his overperformance on Crono, but don't want to even consider Tidus having a sword as the reason for his one and only impressive match in contest history being worth anything.

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