GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 498
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/24/2007 9:50:00 PM | message detail |
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...Am I the only one not feeling sick at the thought of Pikachu being a decent midcarder? I'm still thinking it's just the format that allows for Pokemon to do so well. --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe Isaac/Pikachu/Serge/Tidus- Bracket: Tidus > Pikachu - Vote: Pikachu (73/88) |
| Lady Ashe | Posted 9/24/2007 9:50:01 PM | message detail |
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I was tempted to go for the both Kratos/Kirby advancing over Snake
pick, but I assume you guys aren't quite ready for that one. <_< ~~~ Ashe. The Cream of Final Fantasy Fanboyism. http://www.destructoid.com/elephant//ul/9855-550x-contra-poster-2-dsf.jpg |
| Keno316 | Posted 9/24/2007 9:50:34 PM | message detail |
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Is there any way we can tell what Pikachu's value would be if Tidus from last year was legitely not SFF and remained constant? --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB *Claims KG's Eclair, C.C. & Tear Grants* |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/24/2007 9:50:55 PM | message detail |
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The best part is, is this is Pikachu legitimately leading TIdus. You
could claim Square SFF, but remember that Pikachu and Isaac are both
Nintendo handheld stars. SFF argument is invalid today. TuRtLe ~~~ 63/84 in the contest. Next pick: Han Solo > Ada Wang BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| creativename | Posted 9/24/2007 9:52:16 PM | message detail |
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On reading this topic, good to see that others were also appalled by this repugnant Pikachu winning display. Though...what's this about Ridley getting 2nd tomorrow? Spyro is more likely to come in 2nd, but that's not happening. I do see Spyro>Ridley though. In fact, my straight-up expectation is Spyro>Ridley...the only reason I doubt that is my SFF-sense is tingling slightly between Vivi and Spyro for some reason, even though they're from totally different games. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Lady Ashe | Posted 9/24/2007 9:52:58 PM | message detail |
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From Chamek Posted 9/25/2007 12:49:51 AM #300 Will any of the people who previous voted for him over Kirby really choose not to vote for him now because he is put into a new, high profile game? He was the ass of the Noble Nine until SS:BB. Samus proved pretty nicely that he'll get rSFFed very easily by anything Smash until it comes out, so it's possible that he'll go back to near his pre-SS:BB strength during that match, which would let Sonic sneak buy. Not that I was being completely serious or anything, but it's possible. <_< ~~~ Ashe. The Cream of Final Fantasy Fanboyism. http://www.destructoid.com/elephant//ul/9855-550x-contra-poster-2-dsf.jpg |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/24/2007 9:53:08 PM | message detail |
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I don't know how the hell tidus is losing to pikachu, but... AWESOME. lol tee-dus --- sig |
| Keno316 | Posted 9/24/2007 9:54:16 PM | message detail |
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| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/24/2007 9:54:50 PM | message detail |
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In fact, I could see Kirby stealing more of Sonic's votes than
Snake's. They're both rather "old school" and popular among the
"hardcore" gaming market of Nintendo/SEGA fans. Snake should be the one
doing the stealing from Kirby. His SSB:B inclusion should help him, and
hurt all fellow Smash Bros. participants he previously might have been
matched up against. Snake doesn't "steal" from Kirby. Snake has his block of support, which includes his MGS fanbase (the majority of his strength) and his Brawl fanbase (which is what put him over Sonic and Mega man last year). Notice how quickly he folded when put up against Samus, and needed Cloud in the poll to beat out Sephy? Also notice how when Snake was removed, his support went almost equally to Cloud/Link? Throw Kirby against Snake, he loses some of that support, but Kirby loses much of his. Remember, SFF matches usually have really low votals. Both characters suffer in this format when they share a fanbase. Vann would have looked better if Rikku wasn't there, and Rikku would have probably advanced over Knuckles had Vaan not been there. Both characters suffered. TuRtLe ~~~ 63/84 in the contest. Next pick: Han Solo > Ada Wang BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| yoshi7cw3 | Posted 9/24/2007 9:55:31 PM | message detail |
| I dunno, I think FFX, Chrono Cross, and Golden Sun all cater to the same traditional-RPG playing audience and thus, the votes are split. Pokemon is an RPG too, in a way, but it's way different and anyone can play it. |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/24/2007 9:56:14 PM | message detail |
| Eh, I'm not making a big deal out of Pikachu
winning. Like Fox, we hardly had much data on him. It's pretty hard to
hold him to a Parappa match from 2k2... --- Currently playing: Call of Duty 2, Maverick Hunter X, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Dead Rising, Tomb Raider Legend |
| creativename | Posted 9/24/2007 9:56:21 PM | message detail |
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Mewtwo is seriously probably a top 20 character after seeing all this stuff. His performance on Ryu/Bowser was no fluke. I agree, and said at the time that people were underrating Mewtwo's performance relative to Bowser there, and that Mewtwo was a lot closer to Ryu than those results implied. I think Mewtwo would get 45+% on Ryu 1-on-1, and I don't see him under like 43%. I've said this before, I think the fanbase split just destroyed Bowser and Mewto relative to Ryu there. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| swirIdude | Posted 9/24/2007 9:56:25 PM | message detail |
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Why does Snake suddenly SFF every Nintendo character because he's in
Brawl? That does not make him Nintendo, nearly all of his support is
from MGS! --- http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2636/ivotedphoenixyi0.png http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2931/ivotededgeworthck7.png |
| creativename | Posted 9/24/2007 9:56:51 PM | message detail |
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*Mewtoe --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/24/2007 9:57:02 PM | message detail |
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...Are you claiming ffx, golden sun and CC aren't casual-friendly rpg's? --- sig |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/24/2007 9:57:13 PM | message detail |
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You can't claim RPG SFF either because they're all RPG characters. This is legit. Quick, assume Pikachu/Tidus is legit, and use Tidus' 2k5 value to see where Pikachu is. TuRtLe ~~~ 63/84 in the contest. Next pick: Han Solo > Ada Wang BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/24/2007 9:57:18 PM | message detail |
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Mewtoe lol --- Kleenex - Now with an invigorating blast of citrus cherry flavor. CB6 - 63/88; Oracle - 22nd |
| Tai | Posted 9/24/2007 9:57:21 PM | message detail |
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...Am I the only one not feeling sick at the thought of Pikachu being a decent midcarder? I'm not feeling sick: I'm feeling anger. I'm feeling my rage boiling. The urge to kill rises for every second Pikachu is in the lead. --- New England Patriots: 3-0 Next: @ Cincinnati Bengals (Mon 8:30 PM) |
| creativename | Posted 9/24/2007 9:57:22 PM | message detail |
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*MEWTWO --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/24/2007 9:58:17 PM | message detail |
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If pikachu is actually a mid-carder now... XFD. --- sig |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/24/2007 9:58:58 PM | message detail |
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Snake went from 45-55 on Mega Man to 55-45 on Mega Man in the course of
one year. Snake boosted through the roof, but was his same old self
when he went up against Samus in the finals because he lost alot of
that. Notice how he managed to do decently against Yoshi despite Solid ****? That was Snake SFFing a weaker Nintendo character. TuRtLe ~~~ 63/84 in the contest. Next pick: Han Solo > Ada Wang BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| transience | Posted 9/24/2007 9:59:00 PM | message detail |
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hmm, I'm getting a Ryu/Bowser vibe here. Isaac definitely hurts the
Square guys more than Pikachu. Pikachu's obviously stronger than
before, format or not.. but this is just the absolute perfect situation
for him. for two straight rounds, even. can't wait to see Vivi tomorrow. division 6 looked so innocent and easy, but it's by far the hardest so far. --- ZFStix: nin nin nin ima ninja!!! nin nin nin XD ZFStix: kill it |
| Keno316 | Posted 9/24/2007 9:59:35 PM | message detail |
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Seriously though, around how much is the difference between Vivi and Tidus anyway? --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB *Claims KG's Eclair, C.C. & Tear Grants* |
| swirIdude | Posted 9/24/2007 9:59:38 PM | message detail |
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If Pikachu is a mid-carder now, can't we just declare Link the official
100% winner of the contest now by use of the Wii/DS shift <_< --- http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2636/ivotedphoenixyi0.png http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2931/ivotededgeworthck7.png |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/24/2007 10:00:01 PM | message detail |
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Snake went from 45-55 on Mega Man to 55-45 on Mega Man in the course of one year. Two years, actually. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| almightyblue | Posted 9/24/2007 10:00:10 PM | message detail |
| I love how everyone's forgetting Snake/Yoshi last year when discussing whose going to benefit from rSFF in Snake/Kirby. It wasn't just the picture that allowed Yoshi to do so well |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/24/2007 10:00:34 PM | message detail |
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Why is it so hard to believe Pikachu is a midcarder? Pokemon has exploded in popularity compared to 2002/2003 and Nintendo has exploded simultaneously. Pikachu was high-end fodder at the worst back then, it isn't even THAT large of a boost. TuRtLe ~~~ 63/84 in the contest. Next pick: Han Solo > Ada Wang BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/24/2007 10:00:51 PM | message detail |
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Notice how he managed to do decently against Yoshi despite Solid ****? That was Snake SFFing a weaker Nintendo character. Or that was the clear picture of Solid Snake behind the sprite. And Snake SFFing Yoshi? Do you see how high Yoshi was already in those stats? And you think he got SFF'd??? --- Currently playing: Call of Duty 2, Maverick Hunter X, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Dead Rising, Tomb Raider Legend |
| Chamek | Posted 9/24/2007 10:01:00 PM | message detail |
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He was the ass of the Noble Nine until SS:BB. Samus proved pretty
nicely that he'll get rSFFed very easily by anything Smash until it
comes out, so it's possible that he'll go back to near his pre-SS:BB
strength during that match, which would let Sonic sneak buy. Yes, but was anyone honestly expecting him to beat Samus? I sure as Hell wasn't. His match against her came out almost perfectly in line with was I was expecting, in fact. His increase from SSB:B plus the general drop of old-school icons such as Sonic, Mega Man, and Crono is what put him over that set of three, but he was never exceedingly far below them and it was all but inevitable that he pass them eventually anyways... SSB:B merely expedited this. I look at Snake's matches as him having a legit shot to win even without SSB:B helping him... throw that into the mix and he's even more poised for victory. Pre-SSB:B I still would've taken him toe to toe with Sonic, and with Kirby around to steal from Sonic I likely would've had him first. SSB:B only solidifies his chance for victory even more in my book. --- Upon having Rosie O'Donnell corner him in the forest, the pizza delivery man knew how a Goomba felt when Mario got a star. ~ SSJ3 Popo |
| creativename | Posted 9/24/2007 10:01:29 PM | message detail |
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The best part is, is this is Pikachu legitimately leading TIdus. You
could claim Square SFF, but remember that Pikachu and Isaac are both
Nintendo handheld stars. SFF argument is invalid today. No evidence for this, but I would expect the overlap between Pikachu and Isaac to be virtually nil. I'd expect Isaac to share more with the other two if anything, though I think Isaac is pretty much neutral here. I could see Serge and Tidus hurting each other, than seems quite possible. Though I think Tidus would probably lose even if Serge was removed, the difference between him and Pikachu is too big. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/24/2007 10:01:31 PM | message detail |
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Cloud only beat link once, and it took square's strongest year by far and a ww link pic for it to even happen then. Honestly I don't see why anyone would have taken cloud, even without a huge nintendo shift. --- sig |
| swirIdude | Posted 9/24/2007 10:01:44 PM | message detail |
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Or that was the clear picture of Solid Snake behind the sprite. And
Snake SFFing Yoshi? Do you see how high Yoshi was already in those
stats? And you think he got SFF'd??? Yoshi for CBVI champion confirmed! That would be awesome actually. --- http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2636/ivotedphoenixyi0.png http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2931/ivotededgeworthck7.png |
| ZFS | Posted 9/24/2007 10:01:55 PM | message detail |
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Why is it so hard to believe Pikachu is a midcarder? There is a certain unwillingness that comes with the idea that something like Pikachu is a midcarder. --- let's mosey |
| Lopen | Posted 9/24/2007 10:02:47 PM | message detail |
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You know, I look at the x-stats for 2003 and it seems Isaac didn't totally suck? He got almost 26% on Samus? You know, if I knew that, I'd have gone the Hochi route here instead of with Serge. --- Raiden, Kirby, my stat analyses and my own face all suck horribly. Note to everyone on Board 8: XIII_rocks never loses sig bets. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/24/2007 10:03:01 PM | message detail |
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I love how everyone's forgetting Snake/Yoshi last year when
discussing whose going to benefit from rSFF in Snake/Kirby. It wasn't
just the picture that allowed Yoshi to do so well Yoshi didn't "do well". He did almost exactly as expected, but this was before we knew Snake boosted through the roof. Snake SFF'd Yoshi enough to make up the difference Solid **** would have caused. TuRtLe ~~~ 63/84 in the contest. Next pick: Han Solo > Ada Wang BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/24/2007 10:04:06 PM | message detail |
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Why is it so hard to believe Pikachu is a midcarder? Because most people believe pikachu to embody everything people hate about pokemon, and nothing they love about it, therefore making it really damn funny that he's somehow has strength now. --- sig |
| creativename | Posted 9/24/2007 10:04:40 PM | message detail |
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hmm, I'm getting a Ryu/Bowser vibe here. Isaac definitely hurts the
Square guys more than Pikachu. Pikachu's obviously stronger than
before, format or not.. but this is just the absolute perfect situation
for him. for two straight rounds, even. I think you have a good point here, this does seem like the "Perfect PokeStorm" division for Pikachu here...but god I hope not, Pikachu beating Vivi because of Tidus' presence would be the worst result these contests have ever seen. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 9/24/2007 10:04:56 PM | message detail |
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This is a very realistic dream. I wonder when I'll wake up. I'm kind of
curious on who's winning that poll with Tidus and Pikachu in it --- This story is not an end yet. Because only you are in the infinity loop. |
| JustForFun1988 | Posted 9/24/2007 10:05:29 PM | message detail |
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BT, if you insist that Snake SFF Yoshi, that will mean Yoshi/Dante is suddenly at MM/Sonic level and Riku is at Sora level. LOL BT stats. --- Proud Supporter of Solid Snake, Dante and Ryu. Alt Account of someone who is lame and stupid |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/24/2007 10:05:37 PM | message detail |
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Such archaic thinking. Like I said, that mentality died down when Pokemon fans started hitting puberty. Saying you "hate Pikachu" is like saying you hate Barney the dinosaur. It may have made you cool in the 5th grade, but it would just make you look like a tool now. TuRtLe ~~~ 65/88 in the contest. Next pick: Meg Ryan > The yellow rat BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| almightyblue | Posted 9/24/2007 10:06:15 PM | message detail |
| Yoshi did exactly what was expected of him in a match, that by your logic, in which he should have been SFF'd into the ground. Say all you want about Solid ****, Snake's picture was clearly visible in the background |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/24/2007 10:06:49 PM | message detail |
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The fact that pikachu is increasing percentage after the power hour has begun to wear off is really ****ing weird. Awesomely weird of course. --- sig |
| Warsola | Posted 9/24/2007 10:07:21 PM | message detail |
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Predict it now: Will Pikachu have a 40+% hour in this match? --- And if we armed them all with two swords, we'd have four times the votes! |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/24/2007 10:07:30 PM | message detail |
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Like I said, any benefit Snake got by SFFing Yoshi was lost with Solid ****. Yoshi's value on Super Snake was pretty much legit. TuRtLe ~~~ 65/88 in the contest. Next pick: Meg Ryan > The yellow rat BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| paraboxx | Posted 9/24/2007 10:08:06 PM | message detail |
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*shaking his head once more* You know, after Ada > Balthier, I actually had a suspicion of this. I never would've said it beforehand in a million years, of course. But I am seriously not surprised here, and I don't even know why. |
| swirIdude | Posted 9/24/2007 10:08:07 PM | message detail |
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Predict it now: Will Pikachu have a 40+% hour in this match? Hellz yeah. --- http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2636/ivotedphoenixyi0.png http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2931/ivotededgeworthck7.png |
| Lopen | Posted 9/24/2007 10:08:48 PM | message detail |
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There's something to be said about the Pikachu/Barney the dinosaur comparison. But at the same time, even if he isn't getting anti-voted, where are his legitimate votes coming from? Even if you just ignore Barney, you sure as hell aren't going to vote for him. --- Raiden, Kirby, my stat analyses and my own face all suck horribly. Note to everyone on Board 8: XIII_rocks never loses sig bets. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/24/2007 10:08:50 PM | message detail |
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Pikachu isn't as "kiddy" as you guys would think. Most of the hardcore Pokemon players are in their late teens/twenties. I mean, how many Board 8ers play competitive Pokemon? That's one of the reasons I have Pikachu going as far as I do. TuRtLe ~~~ 65/88 in the contest. Next pick: Meg Ryan > The yellow rat BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/24/2007 10:09:03 PM | message detail |
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How, how many more years until every single nintendo character can beat cloud and sephiroth? >_> --- sig |
| greatone10 | Posted 9/24/2007 10:09:16 PM | message detail |
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Predict it now: Will Pikachu have a 40+% hour in this match? Sadly, yes. --- Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest. This line reserved for next Guru winner. Unless it's me, therefore reserving plenty of noms for Dixie/DKC2. |
