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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 498

swirIdude | Posted 9/24/2007 1:21:10 PM | message detail
Ada...What?!

*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.GameFAQsContests.com
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19


*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left):
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/


*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html


*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm


*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, and thanks to RockMFR for finding the missing ones!
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php


*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

All Time Top 10 Lists:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2002stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2003stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/spring2004stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2004stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/spring2005stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2005stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/july2006stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2006stats.htm

HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007

TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

Aprosenf's Poll Script:
http://adamrose.mit.edu/allpolls.txt

GameFAQs' Top 100 Games
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/top10

Manual Poll Updater:
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/pollupdate.php
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Lady Ashe | Posted 9/24/2007 1:21:37 PM | message detail
51 posts too early
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swirIdude | Posted 9/24/2007 1:22:55 PM | message detail
The final explanation on 493 getting modded was that too many people were making a stat topic with the same number (so yes, being immature and fighting over who makes the topic and a bunch of people making the same number will get them all modded; grow up people, aka hiko). There's no rule against making the next one a bit early, but I'm told not to push it. The new unwritten rule for stat topics should be the old one at 450 posts. Any earlier is too early, any later will get topics modded for spamming.

More like right on time am I right?
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Lady Ashe | Posted 9/24/2007 1:23:13 PM | message detail
no too early
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trannyscience | Posted 9/24/2007 1:29:24 PM | message detail
I like how you were watching the post count intently so you could snag another topic. :)
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swirIdude | Posted 9/24/2007 1:29:52 PM | message detail
How did you know I made one other stats topic two years ago?
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trannyscience | Posted 9/24/2007 1:30:32 PM | message detail
mad skills.
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character battle vi score: 56/68
trannyscience | Posted 9/24/2007 1:31:11 PM | message detail
oh, and

www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/contest.html

for the next topic, I suppose!
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PokemonPatriarch | Posted 9/24/2007 1:32:35 PM | message detail
An interesting bit of discussion would be exactly how much time you guys have been arguing over "too early!" in a serious or joking manner. =X

But hmmm, go Ada.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/24/2007 1:48:25 PM | message detail
Tag.

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Gaddswell | Posted 9/24/2007 2:13:44 PM | message detail
499 is already made. How many part 500's can we expect?
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Draco1214 | Posted 9/24/2007 2:14:47 PM | message detail
Ugh, after Ammy won, I thought I had a perfect division 6 locked down. Stupid Balthier...
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Ed Bellis | Posted 9/24/2007 2:16:38 PM | message detail
i think we should celebrate 500 by skipping it completely and moving right to 812
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/24/2007 7:51:25 PM | message detail
Hay guyz let's all hate on Pikachu
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Ed Bellis | Posted 9/24/2007 7:51:54 PM | message detail
more like FREAKACHU
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Ed Bellis | Posted 9/24/2007 7:52:09 PM | message detail
okay i'm sorry i think he's cute
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ZFS | Posted 9/24/2007 7:52:20 PM | message detail
All of those Poketurds are annoying!

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let's mosey
Janus5000 | Posted 9/24/2007 7:53:19 PM | message detail
If we hate on Pikachu, he's going to give Tidus a massive scare.

Either that or he gets upset by Serge. Depends on how he decides to imitate Alucard.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/24/2007 7:53:20 PM | message detail
I never really understood why some people hate Pikachu so much.

Is he really that offensive?
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trannyscience | Posted 9/24/2007 7:54:36 PM | message detail
yeah, I don't get it either. I think he's (it's?) just the omnipresent reminder of how much the "anime" sucks?
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ZFS | Posted 9/24/2007 7:55:20 PM | message detail
Well, just look at the thing. That's the face of the devil, yo.

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trannyscience | Posted 9/24/2007 7:55:47 PM | message detail
i believe in miracles
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/24/2007 7:56:39 PM | message detail
Everytime people start believing Pokemon start winning

stop beLIEving
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ZFS | Posted 9/24/2007 7:56:46 PM | message detail
you sexy thing

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/24/2007 7:57:04 PM | message detail
http://dana.ucc.nau.edu/jb264/pikachu.gif

Face of the devil right there.
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Janus5000 | Posted 9/24/2007 7:57:07 PM | message detail
and now I have 'I believe in miracles' stuck in my head

darn you transy-boy
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/24/2007 7:57:46 PM | message detail
Actuallt that's a bad picture, he's like an amputee there.
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Keno316 | Posted 9/24/2007 7:58:20 PM | message detail
Down With Pikachu! I wouldn't mind Serge upsetting at all!
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ZFS | Posted 9/24/2007 7:58:26 PM | message detail
http://www.jetro.go.jp/en/market/trend/topic/images/pikachu.jpg

kill it

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/24/2007 7:58:54 PM | message detail
I'd vote for Pikachu over Tidus in a heartbeat.
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Janus5000 | Posted 9/24/2007 7:59:07 PM | message detail
...Now I want to vote Pikachu. >_>
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ZFS | Posted 9/24/2007 7:59:32 PM | message detail
what is happening to you stats topic

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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/24/2007 8:00:57 PM | message detail
I hate Pikachu simply because he's advancing while Mewtwo isn't.

hate hate hate
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therealmnm | Posted 9/24/2007 8:02:25 PM | message detail
I don't even think I'm going to vote in this match. I'm not a fan of any of them. I never really liked Serge. It was all about Karsh!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/24/2007 8:02:26 PM | message detail
Mewtwo not advancing will be the only solace I have after Pikachu places first in this match
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Ed Bellis | Posted 9/24/2007 8:06:42 PM | message detail
http://www.wayodd.com/funny-pictures2/funny-pictures-pikachu-mouse-T2k.jpg

this is obviously too hot to handle
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trannyscience | Posted 9/24/2007 8:07:58 PM | message detail
kill it
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/24/2007 8:16:34 PM | message detail
http://www.visi.com/~wom-bat/images/folio/pikachu-girl.jpg

Better than Meg Ryan.
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/24/2007 8:18:27 PM | message detail
Match XXIII: Isaac vs Pikachu vs Serge vs Tidus

Information

Name: Isaac
Game/Series From: Golden Sun series
Past Contests: CB2k3
Wins: None
Losses: Samus (2k3)

Name: Pikachu
Game/Series From: Pokemon series
Past Contests: CB2k2, CB2k3
Wins: PaRappa the Rapper (2k2)
Losses: Cloud (2k2), Fox (2k3)

Name: Serge
Game/Series From: Chrono Cross
Past Contests: None
Wins: N/A
Losses: N/A

Name: Tidus
Game/Series From: Final Fantasy X
Past Contests: CB2k2, CB2k3, CB2k4, CB2k5, CB2k6
Wins: Claire Redfield (2k2), Shadow (2k4), King of All Cosmos (2k5)
Losses: Sonic (2k2), Ganondorf (2k3), Mega Man (2k4), Kirby (2k5), Squall (2k6)

Analysis

Funny, for a match that I first thought would have an interesting battle for second has become an interesting battle for first. Maybe I’m just riding the Pokemon momentum wave, but after seeing three impressive performances Pikachu may finally have the chance to shine. Other characters in this match include the one and out Isaac, the near-elite to mid-carder Tidus and a character I’ve always wanted to see, Serge.

Tidus may have dropped or was simply overrated, either way I don’t see him getting anything other than first. The question for this match is how strong is he? Last year he was SFF by Squall, in 2k5 the Dream Division was overrated and in 2k4 he was behind Link/Mega Man SFF so really we don’t have a true value for Tidus other than we know he has dropped since his day in 2k2 and 2k3. With second place for the division still up in the air Tidus is going to have to show us what he can do.

Pikachu is the favorite for taking second after seeing the performances of Mewtwo, Bidoof and Mudkip we know there is a core fanbase that would vote any notable Pokemon (don’t expect someone like Qwilfish to do as well) over most opponents. Pikachu’s anti-votes have hurt it in that past, but in this format and going up against characters that aren’t really well liked Pikachu can leave behind the days of 2k2 and 2k3. There has been some hype on Pikachu upsetting Tidus and while it could happen I don’t see it happening. I just don’t see the site turning around and liking Pokemon that fast for Pikachu to be strong enough to beat Tidus.

Serge has been a character I’ve always wanted to see in this contest, sure Chrono Cross isn’t as universally accepted as Chrono Trigger, but he could have some strength. While the board seems to hate the guy I had a tough time trying to decide whether to take him or Pikachu for second and took the latter because I liked him more. I may be overrating him a little, but I think he’ll impress tomorrow.

Isaac will come in last in this poll. Back in 2003 when Golden Sun came out and was popular he let Samus triple him and four years later and nothing is heard from the series. Like many characters in this contest Isaac has faded into gaming history and unless Nintendo brings him back, which I would love I don’t think we’ll be seeing him or anything Golden Sun related come back to the contest unless we get this kind of format again.

In summary Tidus will take first, Pikachu second, Serge will impress and Isaac will fail. Second place in this division is very up in the air and the three favorites have to show their strengths in order to prove that they are able to come in second. Sad that Mewtwo being stronger than the other pokemon is the only pokemon to fail making it to the next round.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Tidus > Pikachu

charmander6000’s Prediction: Tidus - 36.52%, Pikachu - 27.42%, Serge - 23.05%, Isaac - 13.01%

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Keno316 | Posted 9/24/2007 8:25:45 PM | message detail
You know...I seriously wouldn't be surprise to see Ammy over Balthier next round...
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/24/2007 8:26:38 PM | message detail
None of us would.

I also have a feeling Tidus is going to do worse than some people expect. He's getting first, but not by much.
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trannyscience | Posted 9/24/2007 8:27:03 PM | message detail
I don't think the board hates Serge -- not at all, actually. how could you hate Serge? it's the equivalent of hating Crono. it's mostly apathy towards Chrono Cross.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/24/2007 8:29:54 PM | message detail
Division 6: Round 1 - Match 23 – Isaac vs. Pikachu vs. Serge vs. Tidus

Moltar’s Analysis

Isaac
Game/Series Known From: Golden Sun
Seed in 2003: 15
Lost in 2003 to Samus in Round 1

Golden Sun? People still remember this series?

Pikachu
Game/Series Known From: Pokemon
Seed in 2002: 7
Seed in 2003: 8
Lost in 2002 to Cloud in Round 2
Lost in 2003 to Fox in Round 1

Gets a lot of haet.

Serge
Game/Series Known From: Chrono Cross

That other Chrono game finally gets some representation.

Tidus
Game/Series Known From: Final Fantasy X
Seed in 2002: 8
Seed in 2003: 5
Seed in 2004: 8
Seed in 2005: 4
Seed in 2006: 5
Lost in 2002 to Sonic in Round 2
Lost in 2003 to Ganondorf in Round 1
Lost in 2004 to Mega Man in the Round 2
Lost in 2005 to Kirby in Round 2
Lost in 2006 to Squall in Round 1

He’s used to the haet.

Divison 6 hasn’t been that bad so far (my bracket says otherwise). Here’s another match that doesn’t seem too difficult. Tidus and Pikachu are, by far, the most known characters in this poll on GameFAQs. However, this isn’t the good type of “known”. Both are…disliked.

But before we get more into that, let me give a line to Isaac. He takes fourth.

Anyway, back to the real match here. Tidus is…not well-liked by the FFX fanbase. I mean, Auron, Rikku and Yuna are all liked more than this lead. Oh, and it’s not just the FFX fans, it’s a lot of people. I mean…look at him. You wanna talk about girly-men FF leads? Look no further than Tidus “Meg Ryan”…Tidus. Go look at the SSBM/FFX match pic and I promise you will say several “aughs”.

Even though no one likes him, he will get votes. He always does because he’s part of Final Fantasy. Tidus, though not too strong himself, is the strongest of this batch. I believe he takes first.

So now we have the battle for second. Serge has potential to be something. He has fans backing him, I’m just not sure there’s enough. Plus, look at his main competitor, Pikachu. A lot of Pokemon fans hate the yellow rat thanks to him being shoved down our throats. Not to mention he’s also far inferior to all the other “cool” Pokemon. Still, is that going to stop him from getting votes? Heck no. Mudkip and Bidoof (how many times do I have to bring these two up, ick) did well, Mewtwo did well. People are going to vote for Pokemon en masse.

So Tidus takes first and Pikachu takes second. Everyone else, including us, loses.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Tidus > Pikachu > Serge > Isaac

Moltar’s Prediction is: Tidus: 36% - Pikachu: 29% - Serge: 21% - Isaac: 14%



Ultimaterializer’s Analysis

Unless Pikachu is miles stronger than he's expected to be (which could happen given how well Bidoof and Mudkip did), the only sure thing in this match is Tidus winning it. The other three characters are such fodder that any of them could come in second, just like with the KH/Lloyd/Jak nonsense.

I wasn't too confident in Pikachu taking second when the bracket first came out, but now I am. Even if Pikachu is the single most hated Pokemon of them all, the series has been on such a high since D/P that it's hard to imagine Isaac (who will likely suffer SFF, anyway) or Serge taking this. Chrono Cross being EONS more popular than it should be is about the only way we'll see an upset in this match, methinks.

Ulti's Prediction:

Tidus [29.00%]
Pikachu [25.00%]
Serge [24.00%]
Isaac [22.00%]
Master Moltar | Posted 9/24/2007 8:30:09 PM | message detail
Heroic Mario’s Analysis

Tidus – 40%
Serge – 26%
Pikachu – 25%
Isaac – 9%


This match makes you regret that Pikachu made it back into the bracket. If not for the BT hype how about Pikachu’s clearly going to round 3, then for the fact that the little rat actually has an opportunity to advance to another round. Even worse, the odds of that happening are surprisingly good. It’s just a matter of how strong Serge is, and if there’s going to be any chance that Tidus would be pulling out some SFF.

There’s not much of an argument that I can think of for Serge either. You’d figure that something would happen with Tidus there, although I suppose there’s a chance that Tidus isn’t all that good at dishing out SFF, and if not that, then Serge’s innate weakness would be enough for a possibly boosted Pikachu to scrap by (not that Pikachu is anything close to resembling strong). There’s no telling, but the safe choice, and probably the best choice, is to take Pikachu in this format.

But forget that crap. I’m not taking Pikachu on principle. aww yeah that’ll show ‘em

Bracket: Tidus > Serge
Vote: Pikachu



Yoblazer’s Analysis

God dammit, I just accidentally skipped this and wrote the next match's analysis! Well, I'm very short on time, so this will be short on length. =(

Two Square guys. One Nintendo guy. One fodder. You'd think that the Nintendo vote is guaranteed to advanced, but hey, when it's freaking Pikachu, you can never be certain. His opponents are Tidus (FFX), Serge (Chrono Cross, right?), and Isaac (some RPG? Seikanu Mananu Famutu IX?). I'm thinking that even though he sucks complete ass, Pikachu will muster enough of the Nintendo vote to move past the two lower echelon RPG characters, mainly because I have no idea who the heck they are. Sorry, boys, but that spells DOOM for you! However, even with the possibility of leeched votes, I don't think Tidus has fallen enough to lose to the damned rat. I'm currently playing FFX (great game, and the first Final Fantasy I'll actually beat), so he'll be getting my vote along with my confidence. Don't let me down, Teedus!

Tidus - 34%
Pikachu - 28%
Serge - 19%
Isaac - 19%



Lopen’s Analysis

*obligatory Tidus wins sentence here, followed by obligatory transition into "who's second?"*

So most people have Pikachu here... I can't say the faith is founded. They say "Pokemon hate has gone down." But has it ever really been Pokemon hate? That's what we need to ask ourselves. Honestly, I don't think so. It's always been Pikachu hate.

The yellow rat embodies everything people don't like about Pokemon. Most people that I know of that were sick of Pokemon respect Pokemon as a game, but hate the whoring out of the products. Who's at the forefront of that? Yellow rat himself. Now these days, it isn't whored out as much, so maybe Pikachu hate has gone down. But to point at Pokemon in the series contest, or his fellow pokemon doing well and say this means Pikachu is automatically better off? No sir, I don't think so.

Anti-vote removal means nothing. While Master Chief will get anti-votes from people who hate the X-Box, Pikachu is anti-voted by his very own fanbase. Sure, it means his opponent doesn't directly benefit... but it also means that Pikachu doesn't have any legitimate voting base to support him. So yes, basically, I'm assuming Pikachu is just as weak as he's looked in the past... the same rodent that barely got 55% on the rapping dog.
HeroicTronBonne | Posted 9/24/2007 8:30:49 PM | message detail
I really hope Serge does decently. I'm almost certain he won't, but I really wish he surprised me.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/24/2007 8:30:59 PM | message detail
So then does that mean he automatically lose? Nope. Not hard to win when your opponents are Issac "Why can't I spell your name right?" Sun and Serge. But I think Serge has the heads up here. In past polls, Chrono Cross has shown to have SOME sort of fanbase on this site. And despite all the haters, it did get pretty decent reviews when it was released. And it being the sequel to Chrono Trigger, I'm sure it has enough exposure. And lastly, Serge is easily the strongest character from the game. All of this might not amount to much... but it just doesn't have to.

People say Tidus will SFF Serge. Now let me get this straight... Tidus being the beneficiary of SFF!? I love Tidus, but it just doesn't make sense to me as an idea... and Squall sure has something to say about Tidus in SFF situations. Serge might split with Tidus and Issac a bit, but the hell... Golden Sun is from the Gameboy, Pikachu isn't immune to the wrath of Issac, either! Sole Nintendo rep my ass!

Now this line of reasoning could be used to justify an Issac pick too, but I just think CC is stronger than Golden Sun. Especially Issac... maybe if this were Felix I'd have some more thought here.

Lopen's prediction:

Tidus - 39.70%
Serge - 23.15%
Pikachu - 21.85%
Isaca - 15.30% (there, two as, just like you're supposed to spell it)



Karma Hunter’s Analysis

Isaac

The Golden Sun character who didn't get any time in the sun in 2k3 returns! The fact that he got in and Felix didn't... man, MC would've lost to almost anyone in that first match of 2k3, huh?

Pikachu

The final measure of how much Pokemon hate was Pokemon hate back in the day, and how much was Pikachu hate. Perhaps he is even a tentative choice for favorite here...?

Serge

He FINALLY gets in, and it's not a great draw. His hopes of outdoing Tidus are slim, so he's got to hope to avoid SFF and hang on against Pikachu. Back in the day? No problem. Today, where it seems like Pokemon are running over the contest left and right (...WHY)...

Tidus

Does anyone still like Tidus anymore? He hasn't won a match since the King of All Cosmos... granted, that's more than PIKACHU can say, but who knows here?

Everyone has been given a shot here by everyone... even Issac, who I'm gonna write off immediately. Golden Sun is *nothing* on this site, people - Felix was a product of pure Master Chief anti-voting at its highest level. There's a reason why he's not here today. Meanwhile, Isaac did meh on Samus, and knowing what we know about her it wasn't SFF.

Next up is Serge. The protagonist of Chrono Cross, which is extremely love/hate here, perhaps tending toward the hate today. But apathy more than anything else. He's the first true contest representative, and he doesn't have much of a chance here by my standards. He's not out like ISSAC, but his chances look dire.

Then there's Pikachu, who is looking good after the Pokefear instilled into us by his brethren. He's recognizable, he's cute, people used to say he had a chance to take down Cloud before 2k2 started... and then we saw he was THAT weak. He may turn it around, but to go from losing to Parappa to winning against Tidus? Even with Tidus being held slightly back, it's hard for me to rationalize the guy who almost beat Ganon do that.

Tidus is basically running off his pedigree here and nothing else. People have lost faith, and with good reason - he's just performed so poorly in the last few years. Without a read at all in 2k6 save for one of the most brutal Square SFF beatings we've ever seen, he could easily lose... but he could more easily win.

And I don't bet on Pokemon, so screw it.

Karma Hunter's Vote: Tidus. Listen to my story...
Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Tidus with 35%, Pikachu with 30%, Serge with 20%, Isaac with 15%
Master Moltar | Posted 9/24/2007 8:32:30 PM | message detail
People, just don't look at my percentages. It'll save you a lot of trouble in the future.

Upset Probability: 70%

One of the bigger crapshoots of the first round, and that's saying something. Pikachu > Tidus, Tidus > Serge, Pikachu > Serge... even maybe possibly but not really Isaac could do something if Tidus and Serge split nearly even.

...who the hell is Isaac


Transience’s Analysis

Serge is being seriously underestimated here. I don't know if people realize how big Chrono Cross was -- it sold 650,000 copies in the US alone. that's about triple what Xenogears sold, and it beat Pokemon Gold handily. Chrono Cross got a 93% average from Game Rankings. Serge has every bit of the appeal that Crono does, if not more. he's way more important to the storyline and it's pretty much impossible to like one and not the other. seeing how popular Crono is on this site and the popularity of the Chrono brand name, Serge should at *least* be at the fodder line. Pokemon hate may have gone down... but Pikachu? are you freaking serious? this is the guy whose only contest victory is 55% on Parappa the freakin' rapper. Parappa was all U RAPPIN' GOOD? and Pikachu was like "I suckachu!" Pikachu isn't even universally liked by its own fanbase. Serge, on the other hand? the entire CC fanbase should be voting for him. Serge takes this easily.




..that's what I'd like to say. I've nominated Serge five years in a row now, but the further he gets from 2000, the more irrelevant he becomes. at this point, I question how many people even know the name Serge. he got a great picture that should endear itself to everyone who's ever played CC, but I don't think that'll be enough with all the kiddies that grew up on Pokemon voting for the yellow thing there. plus, Serge got the worst possible draw -- two RPG leads, one of them Square. Pikachu, on the other hand, has nothing Nintendo for the first two rounds. (I consider Golden Sun to share a fanbase with the Square guys more than Pikachu. they're just more similar.) I honestly wouldn't be amazed to see Pikachu in place first here, or second behind Leon in round 2. arrrghhhh

oh and lol rikku -- uh, i mean isaac

three RPG guys
Pika dominates the pic
everyone loses

transience's prediction: Tidus with 34.44%, Pikachu with 29.66%, Serge with 20.44%, Isaac with 15.46%


Guest’s Analysis - Xcarvengerx

Introduction

This analysis is brought to you by me (^^ point at above). Everything written here is only an opinion based on something. That something may be a fact or may not be, so everything you read after this point may not be true. Read on at your own risk. You have been warned.

The Characters

Isaac is the main lead from Golden Sun (at least that is what the description in the bracket told me). Golden Sun is a JRPG for Nintendo console. Golden Sun is supposed to be holy amongst GBA owners (or so I heard), so he may be a bit famous. However, I don’t know how many people still play GBA games and come to GameFAQs today. Oh, and Isaac has been in the contest previously, therefore we know he is not that strong, especially now that he is a bit aged (and not from Square). I think he will come in dead last in this match, but will put up a bit of fight.
Big Bob | Posted 9/24/2007 8:33:01 PM | message detail
I just figured CC was like CT but not as popular. Since CT hasn't looked too hot, I can't imagine Serge will be too good.
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September 29th:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=38262325
Master Moltar | Posted 9/24/2007 8:33:04 PM | message detail
Pikachu is one of the many Pokemon in the Pokemon series. Right, he is NOT your normal daily Pokemon. He/she is Pikachu! A Yellow Pikachu everyone loves, adores and admires. Well, maybe not as much as the others. After all, Pikachu is the symbol of Pokemon when the hatred towards Pokemon was on all time high. Pokemon hatred has disappeared nowadays, but I don’t know whether Pikachu has become well accepted too. Looking at all the Pokemon performances in this contest, I don’t think this one Pokemon will be too different. He will get around 25% of the votes all right, but maybe more (which I hope will not happen) because he is the sole Nintendo character in this match (Isaac is not really Nintendo, but I hope he takes some Pikachu’s votes too! Yay for bias analysis!).

Serge is AWESOME! His character design is just THAT good. Chrono Cross is also THAT good. Just look at GameSpot review. We all know GameSpot always produced one of the best reviews, right? What was the score for Chrono Cross again? Yes, that’s right. It’s a perfect 10/10! Even Final Fantasy VII couldn’t match that awesomeness. Serge, as the main character from a very popular game, sure is very popular!

Seriously, I think Chrono Cross is like Final Fantasy VIII. Most people on the boards hate the game, but there are some pretty strong groups somewhere in GameFAQs that really adore it to death. Remember when Squall was an underdog in these popularity contests? That is Serge now. Yeah, Serge is weaker than Squall all right, but even if he only has half of Squall’s strength, statistically speaking, it should be enough for Serge to beat the Pokeman. Well, unless Meg Ryan said no and SFF’d him to the ground... >_<

Meg Ryan, is also known as Tidus. Nothing to say here, really. He is the favourite to win it here, because he is Tidus + celebrity status = insta win! Har Har Har! BUT (a big butt there), there is a small chance he may bomb like Balthier (regardless of past contests) or get SFF’d by Serge and so allow the Pokeman to take the first place instead...


The Picture Factor and Casual Voting Prediction

The pic for this match is very colourful. I like colourful picture, therefore I like the pic for this match. However, when I like the pic for a match, that doesn’t mean it has to be a colourful picture! Yeah, that is... um... I forgot the term to describe this unprecedented phenomenon... ANYWAY...,

<blabbering mode started>

Now talking about the pic. It is a good picture all right, colourful, vibrant and menacing. Everyone looks absolute the best here. The most standout one is of course Pikachu, because Pikachu is yellow. However, badass votes will go to Serge by the looks of it (looks like a pirate!). Tidus will get the majority of Square’s votes (which are a lot) while Serge will get the leftovers (which are still a lot!) + some, but some JRPG fans may choose Isaac instead. Isaac may also get votes from stoned Square voters because he looks like Cloud, with his spiky yellow hair. Kiddies will vote Pikachu, unless they hate Pikachu and Pokemon, so they will choose the badass one which is Serge. Meg Ryan haters will vote Serge too, because he is Square and pirate look-alike. Pikachu gets joke votes and possibly some board/bracket votes. GameSpot people choose Serge because Chrono Cross got 10/10. Emo people and sad people won’t vote Pikachu because Pikachu is too happy. Isaac gets votes from people who love Myspace photo angle. Anime lovers will vote for Pikachu or Isaac. Male lovers will vote Tidus or Serge. Sailors and older people will vote Serge.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/24/2007 8:33:34 PM | message detail
<end blabbering mode>

In summary, there is no picture advantage to anyone here. This is a fair play (well not really since Tidus, Serge and even Isaac will suffer some Square/RPG SFF).

Overall

Serge, don’t disappoint! Pikachu, go inside the Pokeball!


Predictions
Tidus – 30.52%
Serge – 25.46%
Pikachu – 25.23%
Isaac – 18.79%

Bracket: Tidus > Serge
Cookie-cutter: Tidus > Pikachu
Vote: Serge

<3 NominateSerge <3



Crew Consensus: Tidus > Pikachu, ugh.
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