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JustForFun1988 | Posted 9/23/2007 9:51:22 PM | message detail
The only explanation I can think of is that Ada was SFFd badly by Smaus last year, and is at Leon's level.

Actually Zidane was SFF badly by Crono and Zidane is actually stronger than Sephiroth.
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ZFS | Posted 9/23/2007 9:51:57 PM | message detail
Seriously, BT, what in the damn hell was that?

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/23/2007 9:52:49 PM | message detail
Actually Zidane was SFF badly by Crono and Zidane is actually stronger than Sephiroth.

The only problem is we've seen Zidane get the utter crap beat out of him by low midcarders. Ada better impress next round, or my mind is going to explode from all this nonsense.

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Draco1214 | Posted 9/23/2007 9:53:45 PM | message detail
Balthier is getting his ass kicked because he's weak and no one cares about FFXII. Deal with it like everyone else is dealing with it.
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Keno316 | Posted 9/23/2007 9:53:57 PM | message detail
Speaking of announcements, wasn't there suppose to be talk about something FF7 related at the Square panel? What did that end up being?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/23/2007 9:53:58 PM | message detail
Maybe not to the degree you think I'm thinking, but I seriously think Ada got SFFd last year. You have to have at least some measure of strength to triple somebody, even if that somebody is basically neo-Tanner.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/23/2007 9:54:49 PM | message detail
So Ada is making 100 vote/update gains here.

What the christ is this match?

How is Frank doing so bad?

Dead Rising was really well recieved.

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Master Moltar | Posted 9/23/2007 9:54:55 PM | message detail
Oh man, I was going to make that same post (saying non SFFed Ada = Leon) just for kicks but decided against it.

You forgot to add sarcasm!
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ZFS | Posted 9/23/2007 9:55:46 PM | message detail
Speaking of announcements, wasn't there suppose to be talk about something FF7 related at the Square panel? What did that end up being?

Nothing in particular. There was a FF7 section at Square's booth at TGS, but it wasn't any game-related announcement.

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wavedash101 | Posted 9/23/2007 9:55:57 PM | message detail
Nothing FFVII related popped up...it was just a rumor that got inflated by fanboys and the Crisis Core release hype. Square isnt stupid, they wouldnt throw a remake onto the PS3 just yet

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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/23/2007 9:56:03 PM | message detail
It was well received, but it probably only sold like 1/3 of what Gears of War did.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/23/2007 9:56:29 PM | message detail
Maybe not to the degree you think I'm thinking, but I seriously think Ada got SFFd last year. You have to have at least some measure of strength to triple somebody, even if that somebody is basically neo-Tanner.

Ryo Hazuki scored a tripling, and Bomberman scored a quadrupling. They are not strong.
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smitelf | Posted 9/23/2007 9:56:46 PM | message detail
So, FFXII < FFIX (popularity wise)? It's obviously not up there with VII, VIII and X.
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wavedash101 | Posted 9/23/2007 9:57:23 PM | message detail
More like around one fourth, Gears did 4.5 mil to DR's 1.1
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/23/2007 9:58:50 PM | message detail
I would think Zidane would win in this fourpack (replacing Balthier), but I'm too tired to think it all out.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/23/2007 10:01:27 PM | message detail
More like around one fourth, Gears did 4.5 mil to DR's 1.1

4.5 million in the U.S. alone. That's not just amazing, that's comparable to the original Halo. Man, if we would have all just figured that out, there would have been a lot more Marcus > Kefka love.
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wavedash101 | Posted 9/23/2007 10:02:48 PM | message detail
No those are the WW numbers

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Keno316 | Posted 9/23/2007 10:04:44 PM | message detail
4.5 million in the U.S. alone. That's not just amazing, that's comparable to the original Halo. Man, if we would have all just figured that out, there would have been a lot more Marcus > Kefka love.


After Master Chief's beatings at the hands of Sub-Zero, I think equating Marcus to MC wouldn't have really created that much love for that pick. Its just now that we're seeing the power of X that you can make those remarks.
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wavedash101 | Posted 9/23/2007 10:06:45 PM | message detail
Also, FFXII has sold less than FFX-2 WW, which in turn has sold less than FF IX...
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/23/2007 10:06:59 PM | message detail
I never understood how so much of the board had Kefka winning there. I mean, it's Kefka. If he can lose to Tommy Vercetti 2 years after Vice City, he can definitely lose to Marcus Fenix less than 1 year after Gears.

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MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/23/2007 10:07:21 PM | message detail
So... Who else can see Frank cutting into Balthier's lead in the day? I can't see him not getting at least some of the Xbox Day Vote.
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dlcb1 | Posted 9/23/2007 10:08:51 PM | message detail
This is shocking. If Ada can advance here, what's to stop her from advancing to round three? And if she makes it to round three, she would split votes with Leon, sabotaging his chances and perhaps allowing Vivi/Tidus to advance. On the other hand if Ada has spiked, Leon has probably spiked as well.
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wavedash101 | Posted 9/23/2007 10:09:55 PM | message detail
And no its nowhere near either Halo...Halo beats that by around 2 million and Halo 2 beats Halo 1 by nearly 2 million as well....it also has a much better online component than Gears and I think currently beats Gears in login per day or something crazy

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Forceful Dragon | Posted 9/23/2007 10:11:18 PM | message detail
Why are people saying Ada is stronger?

There is a much simpler explanation.

Balthier is terrible @ contests.

Don't get me wrong, I loved the guy in 12, but this only proves how little he is loved overall. This is ridiculous. Anyways, I'm just glad that so few people will have got the one correct I wont fall far -.-, its still very dumb though.

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wavedash101 | Posted 9/23/2007 10:11:30 PM | message detail
Ada mostly likely would get SFFed into the ground by Leon...

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/23/2007 10:12:30 PM | message detail
Gears definitely sold a lot faster than Halo though (probably more by now than Halo had by the first time we saw Master Chief), and will quite possibly outsell the original Halo eventually.
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transience | Posted 9/23/2007 10:14:03 PM | message detail
having seen this, I'd take Ada over Zidane. Zidane over Balthier, though.
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 9/23/2007 10:14:46 PM | message detail
Suddenly glad that I have Dante > Vivi. Even though it's an oustide chance it's the only thing that would throw my bracket back near the top.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/23/2007 10:14:58 PM | message detail
I want to see how Ada does next round before commenting on Ada vs Zidane. Balthier could just be THAT bad.
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wavedash101 | Posted 9/23/2007 10:17:26 PM | message detail
No it wont...Halo 1 sold throughout the lifetime of the Xbox, it was always ont he Xbox NPD charts...Gears is probably a very frontloaded game and will be replaced by Halo 3, CoD 4 or its own sequel...its not Halo at all
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/23/2007 10:20:40 PM | message detail
I want to see how Ada does next round before commenting on Ada vs Zidane.

I'm going to agree. We very well could be underestimating her.

Still...I'm about THIS close to calling FFXII the weakest FF past 6 that's not 11. If this is the best the so-called "Auron" of the game can do...ouch.
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JaKyL25 | Posted 9/23/2007 10:20:41 PM | message detail
I never understood how so much of the board had Kefka winning there. I mean, it's Kefka. If he can lose to Tommy Vercetti 2 years after Vice City, he can definitely lose to Marcus Fenix less than 1 year after Gears.

It's like the opposite of ZELDAPHEAR but with Microsoft.

XLAX?
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Keno316 | Posted 9/23/2007 10:21:52 PM | message detail
I like how basically the 4 of them are so proportional. 40-30-20-10.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/23/2007 10:22:15 PM | message detail
No it wont...Halo 1 sold throughout the lifetime of the Xbox, it was always ont he Xbox NPD charts...Gears is probably a very frontloaded game and will be replaced by Halo 3, CoD 4 or its own sequel...its not Halo at all

Gears is at 4.5 million after less than a year, and it took Halo 3+ years to get to 6.5 Million (its current total). Gears hasn't even gone PH yet. Its sales are definitely going to increase further.
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 9/23/2007 10:23:44 PM | message detail
From: Mac Arrowny
No it wont...Halo 1 sold throughout the lifetime of the Xbox, it was always ont he Xbox NPD charts...Gears is probably a very frontloaded game and will be replaced by Halo 3, CoD 4 or its own sequel...its not Halo at all

Gears is at 4.5 million after less than a year, and it took Halo 3+ years to get to 6.5 Million (its current total). Gears hasn't even gone PH yet. Its sales are definitely going to increase further.


You mean 6 years.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/23/2007 10:24:32 PM | message detail
Well, yeah, but Halo's sales haven't amounted to much since Halo 2 came out.
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Keno316 | Posted 9/23/2007 10:30:18 PM | message detail
So, in summation, the Female Bracket has screwed almost everybody.


First people overestimating Zelda and Yuna, and then people underestimating Ada. Glad I took that division with a grain of salt, but take this moment to plug my wishes that Tifa would be in this...just to mess with our heads even more.
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wavedash101 | Posted 9/23/2007 10:40:33 PM | message detail
Actually kept selling far better than it should have after Halo 2 came out...and it never dropped below $30 like Halo 2 and SSBM...I remember seeing the numbers it sold after 2 came and it was impressive
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Tarrot | Posted 9/23/2007 10:50:41 PM | message detail
Ok, stupid question here: Is it possible that Balthier can advance to Round Three, even if he loses today?

Thinking of it, could there be some sort of Capcom/Cool SFF between Dante and Ada? Also, with potential SFF between Balthier and Jade, that might be enough to boost Balthier, who would hold the Square/RPG vote, and could this push him to finish ahead of Ada and Ammy? I would assume Balthier and Ada are both stronger than Matt and Mike (and that Ada isn't as weak as her performance on Samus indicated), and that the vote totals of Dante and Ammy would come down, but still, a 20-25% performance could be victory for one of them.
Keno316 | Posted 9/23/2007 10:52:29 PM | message detail
That is what people like to call grasping at straws!
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RPGuy96 | Posted 9/23/2007 10:52:45 PM | message detail
Amaterasu has a much better chance of making the 3rd round than Balthier, provided the margin here doesn't narrow too much.

...Now that's a sentence I did not expect to type.
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transience | Posted 9/23/2007 10:55:16 PM | message detail
wonder if Balthier has a more dedicated fanbase than Ada though? I want to see what happens when she's in the poll with a character people care about. we've seen her fold once...
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Keno316 | Posted 9/23/2007 10:56:16 PM | message detail
It'd take a hell of a fold by Ada to convince me that Balthier can salvage this debacle...
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/23/2007 10:57:01 PM | message detail
I'm starting to think the entire female bracket last year should just be thrown out.

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Keno316 | Posted 9/23/2007 10:58:41 PM | message detail
Oh its should. I tried to make sense of it, trying to think Samus was getting the same treatment within the female side of the bracket that Sephiroth was getting in the VC. ...But then she looks to have overperformed on Ada...its just absolutely non sensical.
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creativename | Posted 9/23/2007 10:58:55 PM | message detail
I want to see what happens when she's in the poll with a character people care about. we've seen her fold once...

Well then let's hope Ada folds like an accordion next round then :)

That hopes reeks of desperation though.

Also this is worth it to see Dante>Vivi anyway I think. Vivi rules.
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creativename | Posted 9/23/2007 11:00:05 PM | message detail
I think Ada is very likely a lot stronger than last year, and would get higher than 20% on Samus in a rematch.

Not to say the female bracket is worth much though.
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Keno316 | Posted 9/23/2007 11:01:46 PM | message detail
Well...Balthier should at least be proud he's got a 2000 vote lead over Frank, so any weird Marcus like behavior after school that could happen will most likely amount to nothing.
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transience | Posted 9/23/2007 11:09:22 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2622

this poll is just baffling me. this must be the greatest argument for franchise voting I've ever seen.
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dlcb1 | Posted 9/23/2007 11:18:11 PM | message detail
Balthier has won the past two updates. Each only by one vote, but still. Maybe he'll come back.
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