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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 492

BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2007 7:52:35 PM | message detail
Round 1- Division 5 Group C

Characters Involved:

Master Chief


Summer 2003 Contest
East Division - 3 Seed

Eastern Round 1 --- Defeated (14) Felix, 56549 [52.96%] - 50231 [47.04%]
Eastern Quarterfinal --- Lost to (11) Aeris, 43161 [39.85%] - 65136 [60.15%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 26th Place [25.31%]

Summer 2004 Contest
20XX Division - 3 Seed

20XX Round 1 --- Defeated (14) Crash Bandicoot, 54469 [70.72%] - 22552 [29.28%]
20XX Quarterfinal --- Lost to (6) Frog, 45517 [49.9962%] - 45524 [50.0038%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 14th Place [29.96%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Flood Division - 1 Seed

Flood Round 1 --- Defeated (8) CATS, 65022 [68.83%] - 29446 [31.17%]
Flood Semifinal --- Defeated (4) Donkey Kong, 50165 [50.79%] - 48597 [49.21%]
Flood Final --- Lost to (2) Crono, 38028 [38.71%] - 60203 [61.29%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 23rd Place [28.29%]

Summer 2006 Contest
Time Division - 2 Seed

Time Round 1 --- Lost to (7) Sub-Zero, 62932 [49.05%] - 63538 [50.95%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 30th Place [29.96%]


After being screwed out of CB5 by a Sub-Zero that got a release that very day, Master Chief is back and looking to have his strongest year ever.

PaRappa

Summer 2002 Contest
North Division - 10 Seed

Northern Round 1 --- Lost to (7) Pikachu, 25736 [45.59%] - 30711 [54.41%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 44th Place [13.97%]


Uberfodder for sure, PaRappa hasn't been relevant since the 90's. He was weaksauce in 2k2, and he'll be ever weaker this year. Basically a non-factor.

Tommy Vercetti

Summer 2003 Contest
West Division - 3 Seed

Western Round 1 --- Defeated (14) Kite, 65818 [65.24%] - 35068 [34.76%]
Western Quarterfinal --- Defeated (6) Donkey Kong, 51425 [50.48%] - 50457 [49.52%]
Western Semifinal --- Lost to (2) Mega Man, 37456 [33.14%] - 75551 [66.86%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 27th Place [24.76%]

Summer 2004 Contest
20XX Division - 5 Seed

20XX Round 1 --- Defeated (12) Max Payne, 48239 [61.96%] - 29621 [38.04%]
20XX Quarterfinal --- Lost to (4) Zero, 30775 [38.16%] - 49875 [61.84%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 29th Place [24.17%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Flood Division - 6 Seed

Flood Round 1 --- Defeated (3) Kefka, 50165 [51.14%] - 47920 [48.86%]
Flood Semifinal --- Lost to (2) Crono, 29182 [29.15%] - 70921 [70.85%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 38th Place [21.30%]


Tommy has been on a steady decline over the years and has probably fallen even further since we saw him in 2k5. He has one role in this match, and that's to be a potential sponge for Master Chief support.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2007 7:52:56 PM | message detail
Yuna

Summer 2003 Contest
West Division - 9 Seed

Western Round 1 --- Lost to (8) Knuckles the Echidna, 45531 [44.68%] - 56363 [55.32%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 34th Place [23.66%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Zebes Division - 6 Seed

Gear Round 1 --- Lost to (3) Ganondorf, 41503 [38.80%] - 65476 [61.20%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 31st Place [23.92%]

Summer 2006 Contest
Aeon Division - 1 Seed

Aeon Round 1 --- Defeated (8) Roll, 97716 [79.30%] - 25501 [20.70%]
Aeon Semifinal --- Defeated (4) Joanna Dark, 89711 [78.05%] - 25229 [21.95%]
Aeon Final --- Defeated (3) Chun-Li, 71634 [60.84%] - 46106 [39.16%]
Elite Eight --- Lost to (1) Zelda, 58112 [42.98%] - 77105 [57.02%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 13th Place [38.45%]


Yuna returns fresh off an impressive year as one of the female bracket 1-seeds. Can she overcome the odds and take first here? We'll see.

Predictions:

This is probably the most important first round match, as it will give us a gauge as to how Master Chief will perform this year. Fortunately for him, everything seems to be going his way for the first time ever. This time, it is HIM with an imminent release. Yes, I'm talking about Halo 3 which comes out in less than a week. Given the marketing blitz behind it, either you're well aware of this fact, or are a complete shut-in with no ties to the outside world.

"But BT" you might ask "Yuna did GREAT last year. She dominated her division then impressed on Zelda-on-roids. Surely she has this in the bag!"

Well, first of all, the four character format will play a key role for The Chief. In previous matches, it's clear that Master Chief has been the victim of strong anti-voting. X-box "hate" is at an all time low nowadays, but there are still that "faithful to gaming" crowd of people that refuse to accept mainstream gaming as part of our sub-culture. But with 3 "not Chief" options to choose from, the anti-voting effect becomes diluted. Also, Master Chief has been show to have a strong core of voters that will vote anything Halo over anything else, as evidenced by multiple multi-option polls.

The other factor here is Yuna being overrated. I've thrown my "1-seed overration" theory out before, but basically it says that characters with high seeds will overperform at least to some degree. Yuna has been one of my prime examples. She completely decimated her division, even putting up Mario-like numbers on Joanna Dark. In my opinion, Yuna's match with Zelda was the only legitimate match for either of them last year. And given how badly Zelda did against Vincent, it only supports massive overration on that side.

The only potential hinderance to Master Chief here is Tommy Vercetti, who some people think will "steal" casual support. You have to remember though, Vercetti's game was on the PS2 before the X-Box, and if memory serves, that is where most of VC's sales came from. I've always viewed Vercetti as somewhere in the middle of hardcore and casual on this site, so I doubt he affects Chief nearly as much as some people think.

Unless Yuna can build a lead of at least 5000 overnight, I'm not ready to call it in her favour. Expect a massive swing at 3pm tomorrow.

TuRtLe's Prediction: Master Chief 40%, Yuna 35%, Tommy 15%, PaRappa 10%
TuRtLe's Bracket: Master Chief > Yuna
TuRtLe's Vote: The Chief


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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/20/2007 7:53:26 PM | message detail
Holy crap...I had no idea Marth was in this.

He could seriously be a wildcard. Everybody who's played Smash loves Marth. I think anybody that thinks Marth will be weaksauce is wrong. He'll have decent strength.

I would not at all be surprised to see him finish above DK. Hell, I think he could get 40+% on Kratos 1-on-1.


Eh, Fox would crush Marth, and Fox is probably pretty close to DK. Don't see how Marth stands much of a chance here, especially since he wasn't in the original SSB.
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Lopen | Posted 9/20/2007 7:53:27 PM | message detail
Liquid's match pic isn't bad, really. In fact, that's my favorite one he's got ever.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/20/2007 7:54:16 PM | message detail
Liquid looks awesome in his match pic. He just doesn't look as much like Liquid as usual.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2007 7:55:47 PM | message detail
Also, if Yuna bombs tomorrow, I'll be feeling REAL good about my Zero pick

aww yeah

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JaKyL25 | Posted 9/20/2007 7:56:52 PM | message detail
Liquid's match pic isn't bad, really. In fact, that's my favorite one he's got ever.

I'd still prefer a pic of him as an arm.

Remember Liquid? He's back...in arm form!
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Heroic Yuna | Posted 9/20/2007 7:57:39 PM | message detail
From BlAcK TuRtLe Posted 9/20/2007 10:55:47 PM #406
Also, if Yuna bombs tomorrow, I'll be feeling REAL good about my Zero pick

aww yeah

TuRtLe


...Why?
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/20/2007 7:58:09 PM | message detail
If PaRappa gets less than 15% tomorrow, Pikachu is guaranteed to lose to Serge.
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Keno316 | Posted 9/20/2007 7:58:30 PM | message detail
Incoming Turtle Logic!


*kicks reason out to the curb*
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Lopen | Posted 9/20/2007 7:58:30 PM | message detail
I think he's spoofing himself at this point.

Right? ... right?
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swirIdude | Posted 9/20/2007 7:58:48 PM | message detail
If PaRappa gets less than 15% tomorrow, Pikachu is guaranteed to lose to Serge.

...What? How do you get this? PS1 factor?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2007 7:59:06 PM | message detail
Oh, and question time, if Nintendo and Square were removed completely, what would the "Noble Nine" be?

I'm thinking Mega Man, Sonic, Snake, Zero, Knuckles, Dante, Leon, Master Chief and Ryu

CapcomFAQs confirmed?

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Heroic Yuna | Posted 9/20/2007 7:59:27 PM | message detail
If Dante gets over 50%, Snake is going to beat Link in the finals.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/20/2007 7:59:51 PM | message detail
The weaker PaRappa is, the worse Pikachu looks, because of their match.
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red sox 777 | Posted 9/20/2007 8:00:18 PM | message detail
Eh, Fox would crush Marth, and Fox is probably pretty close to DK. Don't see how Marth stands much of a chance here, especially since he wasn't in the original SSB.

Fox? Close to DK? After he beat Wario, Falcon, and Banjo, with about the same percentage as Luigi beat Mudkip, Pit, and Tingle? Back in 2003, Fox got on Link about the percentage DK got on Mario, and he's had years of being the #1 character in SSBM since then.

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trannyscience | Posted 9/20/2007 8:00:26 PM | message detail
I can't tell if you're serious or mocking Black Turtle. either way, it's stupid.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2007 8:01:18 PM | message detail
Mac, do you honestly take that 2k2 match at face value? Aside from obvious Pikachu antivoting there, and the fact that PaRappa is likely a million times weaker this year, I see no way to relate the two at this point.

And any PaRappa underperformance is cancelled out by Fox overperformance

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JaKyL25 | Posted 9/20/2007 8:01:34 PM | message detail
Oh, and question time, if Nintendo and Square were removed completely, what would the "Noble Nine" be?

I'm thinking Mega Man, Sonic, Snake, Zero, Knuckles, Dante, Leon, Master Chief and Ryu


Those might be the best nine characters, but they'd in no way form a Noble Nine.

You'd basically have a Triumvirate w/ hangers on.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2007 8:02:22 PM | message detail
And my reasoning for hoping Yuna bombs is it's just another strut in the building of my 1-seed theory

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ZFS | Posted 9/20/2007 8:03:13 PM | message detail
dammit

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Heroic Yuna | Posted 9/20/2007 8:03:14 PM | message detail
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Lopen | Posted 9/20/2007 8:06:41 PM | message detail
Yuna's only "bombing" if she loses to Vercetti. Master Chief beating her easily in no way constitutes a bomb. It constitutes Master Chief domination.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/20/2007 8:07:03 PM | message detail
I'm thinking Mega Man, Sonic, Snake, Zero, Knuckles, Dante, Leon, Master Chief and Ryu

Shadow would stand a good chance of beating Zero and Master Chief (and why's MC there when he lost to Sub-Zero?), but other than that, it's alright.
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Heroic Yuna | Posted 9/20/2007 8:08:39 PM | message detail
From Lopen Posted 9/20/2007 11:06:41 PM #423
Yuna's only "bombing" if she loses to Vercetti. Master Chief beating her easily in no way constitutes a bomb. It constitutes Master Chief domination.

Master Chief Domination would support his theory that characters who got slaughtered in round one matches they were heavily favoured to win automatically make it to the finals in the next contest. And if PaRappa wins, he'll somehow make that look good for Zero as well.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2007 8:08:56 PM | message detail
I've got something worth discussing!

OVER/UNDER - 30: Number of times we see "Believe" or any combination of "finish", "the", and "fight" during tomorrow's match.
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Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe
MC/PaRappa/Tommy/Yuna - Bracket: Chief > Yuna - Vote: Chief (64/72)
creativename | Posted 9/20/2007 8:09:02 PM | message detail
I have Yuna at 34% tomorrow, Master Chief at 36%. I am concerned for the possibility of a Yuna flop - her downside is probably like 25%, and I could certainly see her getting 27%-29%. I can't put her below 34% though out of Final Fantasy favoritism.
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Lopen | Posted 9/20/2007 8:10:38 PM | message detail
Over. I think HM and myself can pull it off alone.
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ZFS | Posted 9/20/2007 8:12:01 PM | message detail
Nathan Hale advancing would ensure Zero's domination of this bracket, because we all know that Nathan Hale is just Master Chief out of his suit, and we all know that Master Chief inside of his suit is clearly just a robot. Because of Hale advancing who is Chief in human form, it's pretty clear that Zero will benefit as well from The Robot Factor. Also, if the L-Block loses to Laharl, it proves that badassery wins out on lol gamefaqs and because of that Zero > Link is confirmed.

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Heroic Yuna | Posted 9/20/2007 8:12:13 PM | message detail
Over.

FFX Spoilers



Yuna says "Believe." at the end of the wedding scene in FFX, so I'm pretty sure I may have to add a few myself. :x
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trannyscience | Posted 9/20/2007 8:12:37 PM | message detail
aitch emm bringin' the truth
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GyratingGrandma | Posted 9/20/2007 8:12:54 PM | message detail
OVER.

I intend to use 15 believes by myself.

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chocoboslayer | Posted 9/20/2007 8:14:36 PM | message detail
Over, easily. >_>
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greatone10 | Posted 9/20/2007 8:16:18 PM | message detail
Depends on the result. If Master Choke bombs again, the only thing I will believe in is Yuna > Alucard.
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ZFS | Posted 9/20/2007 8:16:34 PM | message detail
Word to the wise: the last time "BELIEVE" was used it resulted in massive disappointment!

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Lopen | Posted 9/20/2007 8:16:55 PM | message detail
If Little Mac and Matt the Mii as a unit get above 30% against Dante it'll prove that the hard punching power is back in on GameFAQs, and that characters from hard punching series are on the rise. And who found the Hard Punch from Hard Man in Mega Man 3? Mega Man. And who's in the same series as Mega Man? You guessed it. Zero, baby.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 9/20/2007 8:17:19 PM | message detail
With all the "believe"going around I'm guessing you're all big Parappa supporters. That's nice to see
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swirIdude | Posted 9/20/2007 8:18:32 PM | message detail
OVER. Seriously, "the" is used constantly.
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Heroic Yuna | Posted 9/20/2007 8:18:53 PM | message detail
Actually, if those two get 30% total on Dante it will prove that voters have no taste/PS2s. :(
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ejm5446 | Posted 9/20/2007 8:18:59 PM | message detail
I gotta believe!
Master Moltar | Posted 9/20/2007 8:22:04 PM | message detail
augh i knew i should have gone 50!

And it has to be the words 'finish' 'the' 'fight' all in the same sentence. Such variations are...

Chief is finishing the fight against Yuna!

Yuna is finished and Chief has won the fight.

Fight on, Chief, finish off those dum characters because you are the bomb and I love you haf my bebes.
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MC/PaRappa/Tommy/Yuna - Bracket: Chief > Yuna - Vote: Chief (64/72)
Janus5000 | Posted 9/20/2007 8:23:19 PM | message detail
If Master Chief loses to Yuna, it will prove that he needed a weapon. And you know who has a weapon? Zero.
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dlcb1 | Posted 9/20/2007 8:24:21 PM | message detail
Master Chief will have the fight finished in the first hour
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trannyscience | Posted 9/20/2007 8:30:22 PM | message detail
we've got an ascii pokemon stats topic and halo fanboyism

what has happened
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2007 8:33:57 PM | message detail
So what does the board vote look like? Yuna domination?
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ZFS | Posted 9/20/2007 8:35:11 PM | message detail
Whichever is the bracket favorite on the board.

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swirIdude | Posted 9/20/2007 8:35:44 PM | message detail
According to the guru, it's Master Chief.
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ZFS | Posted 9/20/2007 8:36:59 PM | message detail
Master Chief it is, then!

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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2007 8:37:39 PM | message detail
Yeah but it's also Master Chief. People here will not vote for him just because.
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Keno316 | Posted 9/20/2007 8:38:51 PM | message detail
I see Yuna taking a nice lead during the night and MC keeping it close, but Master Chief taking off ASV and shooting up from there.


I seriously think Yuna needs to build a very good lead at night if she plans on winning.
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