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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 492

LeonhartFour | Posted 9/20/2007 11:45:06 AM | message detail
LOL Thrall losing a 17 vote update to Ratchet
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BDawg | Posted 9/20/2007 11:48:16 AM | message detail
I have so much Metal Fear I'm thinking one point is possible if Alucard bombs.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2007 11:48:18 AM | message detail
We all knew Ratchet was going to start makjing moves with the day vote. Thrall needs to hope he can keep this close enough for the WoW nerds to save him.

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Forceful Dragon | Posted 9/20/2007 11:49:16 AM | message detail
Know what amuses me about tomorrows match?

Every year Master Chief and Halo has find some way to disappoint in situations that seemed impossible. It has been conditioned into our brains that somehow, someway Master Chief will find a way to ruin the brackets of anyone who counts on him.

And so now that a lot of people are pulling against him (At least half the brackets maybe?) I think he's going to come on very strong and ruin brackets all over again.

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JustForFun1988 | Posted 9/20/2007 11:50:59 AM | message detail
Well FD is right, believe the MC fear. He will screw your bracket.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/20/2007 11:52:06 AM | message detail
His Xbox buddies have done very well for themselves.
BDawg | Posted 9/20/2007 11:52:29 AM | message detail
Well Chief is probably favored by casuals, I don't know how the board is but it's probably pretty close. So either way a lot of people are gonna be cursing Chief.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/20/2007 11:53:08 AM | message detail
My Metal Fear has died down a lot since Raiden's match, though I do still somewhat regret switching from Ness > Liquid to Ness > Alucard.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2007 11:53:44 AM | message detail
Tomorrow's match is GFNW/PW all over again. People are conditioned that a certain character must act a certain way. The same thing happened with all the Brawl characters. People thought Ike, Pit and Marth were locks simply because of how Snake performed last year.

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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 9/20/2007 11:55:00 AM | message detail
On that potential Ganondorf in the finals scenario, I'd expect him to get a very small percentage in that match. Not only does he get killed by Link again, but he also loses all of the anti/not Link votes that probably contributed a lot to his 12%. I could see under 5% easily. Though almost everything that he gets would be coming from Link.
Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/20/2007 11:56:30 AM | message detail
People thought Ike, Pit and Marth were locks simply because of how Snake performed last year.

Um...what? Almost nobody is picking Marth. People supported Pit because his competition looked so awful. And Ike is still a decent pick, because his competition is awful.

Also, way to not mention Meta Knight.
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BDawg | Posted 9/20/2007 11:57:44 AM | message detail
I picked Ike before I even knew he was gonna be in brawl...but yeah Marth ain't worth crap even in the Smash universe.
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swirIdude | Posted 9/20/2007 12:03:32 PM | message detail
Marth ain't worth crap even in the Smash universe.

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Cecil XIX | Posted 9/20/2007 12:06:25 PM | message detail
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Cecil XIX | Posted 9/20/2007 12:07:38 PM | message detail
What's with all the Marth hate? Unlike Ike and Pit he's in a Smash game that's already been released, and long with Roy he's the reason Fire Emblem became popular in the US.
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transience | Posted 9/20/2007 12:09:02 PM | message detail
Chief's the favourite tomorrow, actually.

he's been an overwhelming favourite before though and fallen on his face, so we'll see.
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Haste_2 | Posted 9/20/2007 12:09:26 PM | message detail
Fox SFFed Captain Falcon... will DK be able to SFF Marth? I do think Marth is a bit above Captain Falcon...

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Forceful Dragon | Posted 9/20/2007 12:10:44 PM | message detail
What's with all the Marth hate? Unlike Ike and Pit he's in a Smash game that's already been released, and long with Roy he's the reason Fire Emblem became popular in the US.


Because marth is a nobody. Smash can make a character more well known, because most of the characters have their own niche already carved out in the gaming universe. But in the case of Marth thats *all* he is known for, no one cares about a japanese FE appearance. And when you have to chose between him, or Donkey Kong (who will eat of many of his potential votes anyways, if he's only getting a Smash vote) or Kratos, well the choice is simple.

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transience | Posted 9/20/2007 12:12:10 PM | message detail
sheesh.

g'night, Thrall.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2007 12:12:31 PM | message detail
Didn't say Ike was the favourite, but 30% of the gurus have him beating Gordon Freeman. Another 40% have him coming second there.

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The n00b Avenger | Posted 9/20/2007 12:12:46 PM | message detail
Thrall is about to have an epic daytime collapse
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swirIdude | Posted 9/20/2007 12:15:57 PM | message detail
Ike is certainly favored to advance. Duke Nukem has nothing new to propel himself, and Guybrush...what casual voter would know who GUYBRUSH is? And in terms of taking 1st, Gordon Freeman has, is, and always will be an enigma.
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Haste_2 | Posted 9/20/2007 12:16:18 PM | message detail
Vergil and Thrall have to be really pathetic if they let the scores infer that Ratchet can get over 40% on them... for that matter, I'm troubled that Ganondorf can't even quadruple Ratchet, after seeing that Crono quadrupled Simon Belmont.

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Cecil XIX | Posted 9/20/2007 12:18:06 PM | message detail
Your logic is sound FD, but I don't agree with our conclusion. Marth is one of the most popular characters in the fourth most popular videogame series on the site. He's not a nobody. Considering his competition is an extremely weak King of All Cosmos and an apathy-inspiring Donkey Kong, it's not unresonable to see a potential upset.
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swirIdude | Posted 9/20/2007 12:18:44 PM | message detail
Speaking of that, why was Simon fed to Crono again? Why was Lloyd fed to Zero? Rematches that could be avoided make no sense to me. I guess we can compare it to their 1 on 1 matches.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 9/20/2007 12:19:29 PM | message detail
I've never even played SSBM but I'm voting for Marth that day.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/20/2007 12:19:47 PM | message detail
Ratchet's got the hardcore fanbase on his side!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/20/2007 12:21:11 PM | message detail
Speaking of comparisons, Lloyd would be expected to get 25.56% based on the match with Zero, and Belmont would be expected to get 12.26% on Crono! Huzzah!
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/20/2007 12:21:11 PM | message detail
What's with all the Marth hate? Unlike Ike and Pit he's in a Smash game that's already been released, and long with Roy he's the reason Fire Emblem became popular in the US.

There's no Marth hate. But he's up against Donkey Kong and Kratos. There's no chance he's beating either of them.
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swirIdude | Posted 9/20/2007 12:23:04 PM | message detail
There still is a chance that Marth beats DK for 2nd. I have never seen a character whose fans bail on him for practically any other character from his company (and Aya Brea <_<).
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BDawg | Posted 9/20/2007 12:24:22 PM | message detail
Looks like all the afterschool was good for was causing a stall while Ganon and Ratchet rip into both of them.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/20/2007 12:25:26 PM | message detail
Look at Ratchet go!
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transience | Posted 9/20/2007 12:25:50 PM | message detail
Marth has an outside chance of rsffing DK. I don't even think it's that crazy - DK doesn't exactly have too many people who love him, EC aside.

but it's still unlikely.
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swirIdude | Posted 9/20/2007 12:27:57 PM | message detail
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/20/2007 12:28:49 PM | message detail
The only Nintendo character that DK's been up against is Mario. Getting SFF'd by Mario would be no surprise nowadays for any Nintendo character.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/20/2007 12:29:19 PM | message detail
Thrall, you ass. The next time my stupid brother and his stupid friends start talking about Warcraft, I'm kicking them out of the house!
swirIdude | Posted 9/20/2007 12:29:28 PM | message detail
We also don't know where DK really is, since his last showing overrated him thanks to Master Chief.
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swirIdude | Posted 9/20/2007 12:30:31 PM | message detail
But DK really does have an apathetic fanbase, just ask around. He only seems to get votes when the Nintendo fanbase has no better option. (Perhaps Aya Brea was a better option?)
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Forceful Dragon | Posted 9/20/2007 12:30:39 PM | message detail
Okay I will admit Marth has a shot, but I just dont see him cutting into Donkey Kong very much.

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Janus5000 | Posted 9/20/2007 12:32:43 PM | message detail
Getting SFF'd by Mario would be no surprise nowadays for any Nintendo character.

I can think of one... >_>

And sure, DK's fanbase isn't exactly the strongest, but exactly how many people would consider Marth to be a 'better option'?
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/20/2007 12:32:57 PM | message detail
We also don't know where DK really is, since his last showing overrated him thanks to Master Chief.

Fine, set him equal to Sub-Zero then. He still slaughters Marth.

But DK really does have an apathetic fanbase, just ask around. He only seems to get votes when the Nintendo fanbase has no better option. (Perhaps Aya Brea was a better option?)

1. That was long before the Nintendo Boost.

2. Aya Brea was hugely popular back then, thanks to the astonishing success of Parasite Eve, which is easily Square's best-selling non-Final Fantasy game.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2007 12:35:03 PM | message detail
lol chrono trigger

TuRtLe
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54/68 in the contest. Next pick: Ganondorf > Thrall FOR THE HORDE!
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 9/20/2007 12:35:33 PM | message detail
Ratchet has had a couple games since his last appearance, so he's probably not quite that low anymore.
Janus5000 | Posted 9/20/2007 12:35:39 PM | message detail
Whoa, just noticed Ratchet won the last six updates from Thrall.

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LAWREEEEEEEENCE~!
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RPGGamer0 | Posted 9/20/2007 12:37:26 PM | message detail
Rathet for the surprise comeback!

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swirIdude | Posted 9/20/2007 12:39:01 PM | message detail
exactly how many people would consider Marth to be a 'better option'?

A lot of people who like SSBM. Marth has been preached as one of, if not the best characters in the tiers, and a lot of people love the "guy with a sword". Look at our Top 3 and try to tell me otherwise.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2007 12:41:42 PM | message detail
A lot of people who like SSBM. Marth has been preached as one of, if not the best characters in the tiers, and a lot of people love the "guy with a sword". Look at our Top 3 and try to tell me otherwise.

Zero > Vincent confirmed!

TuRtLe
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Janus5000 | Posted 9/20/2007 12:43:49 PM | message detail
Pretty sure Snake prefers guns to swords...
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swirIdude | Posted 9/20/2007 12:45:07 PM | message detail
Pretty sure Snake prefers guns to swords...

Yeah, but he's only Top 3 when Cloud is stealing Sephiroth's votes...and it was still nearly even.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/20/2007 12:50:47 PM | message detail
Ratchet is winning updates against Thrall now? Yeah, this is over.
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