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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 492

helferty101 | Posted 9/20/2007 7:07:39 AM | message detail
Let's put a hypothetical situation here. Assume Snake/Ganondorf make the finals with Cloud/Link.

Taking Cloud/Link/Snake from the Battle Royal, the split is 45%/35%/20%. Throw in Ganondorf who (for the sake of argument) gets 10%. Who is he going to leech more off of? Link of course. He'll take miniscule support from Cloud/Snake, but most of it will come out of Link's pocket.

Say instead of Ganondorf, we use Sonic. Sonic has no clear overlap with any of them, so he'll take a much more even %age from them all. Say he gets 14%, he'd take about 4 each from Snake/Cloud and 6 from Link due to slight Nintendo/Sonic overlap.
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MMXcalibur | Posted 9/20/2007 7:24:54 AM | message detail
I caved in and bit on the Halo 3 hype, so Master Chief better not disappoint tomorrow. By the way, I just noticed I have Master Chief > Alucard in the 2nd Round. OOPS!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/20/2007 7:25:58 AM | message detail
And I've gotta admit: The possibility of Mudkip making round three scares me, depending on what Luigi and Ganondorf get here. As much as I hate to say it, Ganon's impressing me here, even if he is facing some scrubs. Ratchet is among the worst of fodder, and the other two barely breach the fodder line at best. Still, Luigi's fourpack likely is no better, but Mudkip messes all that up.
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Xuxon | Posted 9/20/2007 7:31:09 AM | message detail
No way does Ganondorf get 10% against those 3, and even if he did at least 1% of that would come from the others. It's pretty much impossible for Link not to win.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/20/2007 7:33:50 AM | message detail
In a 4way poll against Link, Cloud, and Snake? I'd take a guess at 8% being Ganon's ceiling.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/20/2007 7:34:47 AM | message detail
If Ganondorf gets 12% against Link alone, he's going to fare much worse with two other guys who would beat him head-to-head as it is.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/20/2007 7:36:03 AM | message detail
Also, I mentioned this many topics ago but it was apparently overlooked, but could we add RPGuy's percentage by hour link to the first post of the stats topic?
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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/20/2007 7:38:05 AM | message detail
And I just remembered, Samus didn't even finish above 8% in the Battle Royal last year. Granted, her match had two extra entrants, but Ganon is a leach of an entirely different level. If Link picked up some sort of increased inter-series SFF power from Twilight Princess, we could possibly see Ganon struggling to hit 5-6%.
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helferty101 | Posted 9/20/2007 7:41:57 AM | message detail
No way does Ganondorf get 10% against those 3, and even if he did at least 1% of that would come from the others. It's pretty much impossible for Link not to win.

I realize that. The point I was trying to make is that Ganondorf being in the poll in no way helps Link as (I think swirldude) said on the previous page.
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Xuxon | Posted 9/20/2007 7:48:36 AM | message detail
RPGuy was saying Ganon hurts Link's percentage less than Sonic would. Which is of course, true, because Sonic will actually be getting votes. But Ganon obviously would hurt Link more than he'd hurt the others.
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Big Bob | Posted 9/20/2007 7:50:56 AM | message detail
Looking at the updater, I saw that Thrall almost overtook Vergil. What are the chances it could happen again?
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Xuxon | Posted 9/20/2007 7:54:57 AM | message detail
That's a tough one. Without any off-site rallying, I'd have called this for Vergil a long time ago. But rallying could be a huge factor here. I think I'd still call Vergil a slight favorite.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/20/2007 8:01:40 AM | message detail
I think Vergil will be slowly but surely gaining the rest of the day. Neither one of these guys is going to get a huge day vote advantage.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/20/2007 8:02:55 AM | message detail
42,830 Rikku
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And I don't see Thrall coming back from this. He made his move in the night, Vergil got the first real cushion he's had in the morning. As long as he can stall and rallying doesn't play a prominent role, he's got this.
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swirIdude | Posted 9/20/2007 8:12:47 AM | message detail
Could the morning vote be going to Ratchet?
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Lady Ashe | Posted 9/20/2007 8:24:44 AM | message detail
Leonhart and I make up 20% of the leaderboard. Awesome.
Xuxon | Posted 9/20/2007 8:26:31 AM | message detail
No fair, hogging the leaderboard like that. I have 56 points and haven't been on there yet, and probably won't at all unless Thrall makes a comeback.
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/20/2007 8:34:41 AM | message detail
I think my bracket was a semi-favorite bracket when I made it; any close match I went with my favorite character and even when the matches wouldn't be close. Take a look at some of the rest of my round 1 picks.

Balthier > Frank
Kirby > Laharl
Donkey Kong > Kratos
Ryu H > Riku
Gordon > Ike
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swirIdude | Posted 9/20/2007 8:42:59 AM | message detail
Balthier > Frank

I've covered wars, you know, not Final Fantasy freaks.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/20/2007 8:46:27 AM | message detail
I think my bracket was a semi-favorite bracket when I made it; any close match I went with my favorite character and even when the matches wouldn't be close. Take a look at some of the rest of my round 1 picks.

Balthier > Frank
Kirby > Laharl
Donkey Kong > Kratos
Ryu H > Riku
Gordon > Ike


Um, none of those are bad picks other than DK > Kratos. Sure, KH has done well so far...but then, so has Xbox. And there's nothing at all wrong with the other three.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 9/20/2007 8:46:48 AM | message detail
If Thrall can keep it under 1500 by 3:30 then I'll give him a reasonable shot.
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Forceful Dragon | Posted 9/20/2007 8:48:25 AM | message detail
Why do people thing thrall will do any better as it gets later than he did last night?

Vergil has this one imo.

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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/20/2007 8:49:43 AM | message detail
Thrall did nothing miraculous at the start of the poll or in the morning. It would make very little sense for the after school vote to favor him enough to make this interesting. Vergil has this.

Looks like I picked the wrong time to listen to Funk. =(
DpObliVion | Posted 9/20/2007 8:54:43 AM | message detail
*wakes up*

Wow. Well, this was quite unexpected after watching Thrall completely kill Vergil's small lead late last night. Vergil was starting to regain when I went to bed, but I thought it was just a regular stall/gain a little before Thrall would swing it back again. If anything, I thought Vergil could still be ahead by a small margin. But he's really putting it to Thrall right now.

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Forceful Dragon | Posted 9/20/2007 8:56:00 AM | message detail
Yeah, the stall broke very early morning and that was the last we saw of thrall's chances.

I for one am extremely relieved, I was very thrall-nervous when I saw the numbers Arthas was putting up.

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octoinky | Posted 9/20/2007 8:57:01 AM | message detail
I see some old talk about Cloud > Link, so I'd like to share my thoughts.



in my bracket, I have Seph/Mario whatever order, they make it together, and then Link > Vincent (>Crono). Well basically, I took Link > Mario the next round as a *major* reach obviously, assuming Vincent can hold is own against Seph, and so can Mario against Link. This is still a pretty bad pick - its still incredibly unlikely heck Mario could get 4th, however..

The reason I did this, was because the next round is Cloud Link Samus Mario. At this point, I took Cloud > Link, and I see this possible (probable?) scenario given the matchup.

I know its not the best picks, but once again I wanted something non-cookie cutter that would be worth a LOT of points over the majority of brackets, and that was atleast feasible and made sense.



Anyway, that is the only way that I can see Cloud > Link anywhere. I obv took Link > Cloud in the finals.





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DpObliVion | Posted 9/20/2007 9:01:05 AM | message detail
I for one am extremely relieved, I was very thrall-nervous when I saw the numbers Arthas was putting up.

Same. I was even expecting to lose these points. My chances of making the leaderboard are still somehow alive! Or at least maybe for my alt, which is 2 points ahead of my normal bracket because of only one difference so far, that being not being completely biased in the Magus match.

Meh, I'd need a lot of help today though, bottom end of the Top 237 right now with 2 highly controversial matches coming up and a 3rd that's a complete toss-up. I'm not making it....I'm 0/3 so far in situations where I expect to crack the leaderboard if I get it right.

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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/20/2007 9:04:12 AM | message detail
Whatever, Vergil nerds!

*hopes Cheeto munching WoWers save his dying bracket*
BDawg | Posted 9/20/2007 9:29:03 AM | message detail
All I can say is if someone is lucky enough to get through this divison perfect they deserve to be on the leaderboard. Of course now Thrall is a loser and I have no confidence in Chief>Yuna or Alucard>Ness.
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Janus5000 | Posted 9/20/2007 9:33:06 AM | message detail
and I have no confidence in Chief>Yuna or Alucard>Ness.

While Alucard > Ness seems a bit iffy now (METAL FEAR?!), I don't see much reason to doubt The Chief.
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DpObliVion | Posted 9/20/2007 9:38:44 AM | message detail
I still stand by my Yuna/MC pick. I think....

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PinkGi | Posted 9/20/2007 9:49:08 AM | message detail
The Chief always finds a way to disappoint, usually taking thousands of brackets down with him (Damn you Aeris, Frog, Starcraft, Warcraft series, and Sub-Zero!)
PinkGi | Posted 9/20/2007 9:50:19 AM | message detail
er, I meant Castlevania series.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2007 10:36:07 AM | message detail
I don't think anybody expected him to beat Aeris or Frog.

And come on Thrall, don't let that wiener push you around. You're the warchief FFS.

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Forceful Dragon | Posted 9/20/2007 10:38:22 AM | message detail
MC is going to be in his element this year though. A round 1 victory is assured.

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The Real Truth | Posted 9/20/2007 10:38:34 AM | message detail
^....And Vergil's the son of Sparda. Son of Sparda > Warchief.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2007 10:41:55 AM | message detail
Vergil sucks though.

Dante kicked his sorry ass repeatedly.

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54/68 in the contest. Next pick: Ganondorf > Thrall FOR THE HORDE!
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 9/20/2007 10:43:22 AM | message detail
So how bout that next match...>_>
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hochiminh155 | Posted 9/20/2007 10:44:50 AM | message detail
Next match? Yuna wins. I guarantee it. I'm more concerned about the match following it. The four-pack from hell.
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hochiminh155 | Posted 9/20/2007 10:48:53 AM | message detail
Also, this is the fourth match in a row where Zelda has badly bombed.
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Xuxon | Posted 9/20/2007 10:51:37 AM | message detail
Also, this is the fourth match in a row where Zelda has badly bombed.

Uhh, Ganon's doing great here. What did you expect him to get, 60%?
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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/20/2007 10:51:59 AM | message detail
Ganon is doing fine.
hochiminh155 | Posted 9/20/2007 10:52:55 AM | message detail
Well, I guess Ganondorf is doing okay. I pegged him around 50% in my oracle. The other three though sucked
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2007 11:01:04 AM | message detail
Ganon's doing good, considering Vergil got 20% on Sephy. Zelda bombed and Midna bombed.

Link did fine.

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PortugalTheMann | Posted 9/20/2007 11:05:07 AM | message detail
that was a craptastic seph imhoimho
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transience | Posted 9/20/2007 11:36:12 AM | message detail
whoa. how.. unexpected for Vergil to just take off like this randomly. uhh.. this isn't an impossible margin to come back from, but you have to feel good having Vergil here. I still have utterly no feelings about this match.
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The Real Truth | Posted 9/20/2007 11:39:22 AM | message detail
I love Vergil, I just wish he was more popular.
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The Real Truth | Posted 9/20/2007 11:41:44 AM | message detail
lol cloud
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2007 11:41:59 AM | message detail
I'm not counting out Thrall just yet, but if Vergil does anything with the ASV, this is over.

TuRtLe
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54/68 in the contest. Next pick: Ganondorf > Thrall FOR THE HORDE!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/20/2007 11:42:55 AM | message detail
50 vote increase

Get the forks ready

TuRtLe
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