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| Lopen | Posted 9/17/2007 10:13:30 PM | message detail |
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A 10% increase in overall trends is not
something to scoff at during the day. I don't care if you're facing
Alucard or Kefka, you've gotta be at least somewhat good with it to do
that. --- Raiden, Kirby, my stat analyses and my own face all suck horribly. Note to everyone on Board 8: XIII_rocks never loses sig bets. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2007 10:14:58 PM | message detail |
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It seems as though noone understands that you need 2 characters to create match trends. Take someone with a really night-based trend (Resident Evil, Old Square) and put them up against someone who's relatively steady and the steady character will appear to have a great jday vote. Same thing the other way, take someone with even trends and put them against a day-heavy character (Kingdom Hearts, Nintendo) and suddenly the steady character looks like a nighthawk. TuRtLe ~~~ 48/60 in the contest. Next pick: Zero > Jak BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Yesmar | Posted 9/17/2007 10:15:21 PM | message detail |
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Anybody could cause Jill to bleed percentage during the day.
Pre-Nintendo Snake would have done it, Crono would have done it and
anybody aside from Kefka would have done it. Jill is RE, but her hourly percentage dropping by 10% does indicate some kind of strong day vote. I don't think anyone has come even close to that against Jill, albeit we only have two examples to go on. --- "Look out-- It's Liquids and Gases!" |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/17/2007 10:17:43 PM | message detail |
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Time | Auron . . | Alucard 01:00 | 62.15% | 37.85% 02:00 | 60.72% | 39.28% 03:00 | 60.72% | 39.28% 04:00 | 61.22% | 38.78% 05:00 | 60.97% | 39.03% 06:00 | 62.53% | 37.47% 07:00 | 65.43% | 34.57% 08:00 | 66.52% | 33.48% 09:00 | 64.25% | 35.75% 10:00 | 63.70% | 36.30% 11:00 | 62.21% | 37.79% 12:00 | 62.74% | 37.26% 13:00 | 62.40% | 37.60% 14:00 | 62.62% | 37.38% 15:00 | 62.40% | 37.60% 16:00 | 66.11% | 33.89% 17:00 | 67.37% | 32.63% 18:00 | 67.46% | 32.54% 19:00 | 67.11% | 32.89% 20:00 | 68.22% | 31.78% 21:00 | 67.43% | 32.57% 22:00 | 66.92% | 33.08% 23:00 | 65.44% | 34.56% 00:00 | 62.77% | 37.23% Freaking Auron couldn't swing 10% on Alucard during the day. --- Mustache...and green... www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/17/2007 10:18:07 PM | message detail |
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I'd like to take a moment and point out something: **Zero currently has 39.68% against three characters who have all been in a contest before so we knew would be weak AND collectively only have had one win, which was over Wesker...and the guy who did that has lost to Zero 73-27 in 2k5. **Vincent had 38.68% against three characters who have all been in a contest before so we knew were respectable AND collectively have eight wins, ranging from Celes to Aeris...and the woman who did best in the poll was very recently considered to be a potential Noble Nine breaker. Just saying...throw that into Round Three with two Noble Niners, and Zero's chances look discouraging for even BT-fans. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2007 10:19:22 PM | message detail |
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*tries to read Jill/Ryu H* Who the hell's idea was it to have a manual updater? TuRtLe ~~~ 48/60 in the contest. Next pick: Zero > Jak BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| transience | Posted 9/17/2007 10:19:52 PM | message detail |
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I think the argument is that Crono and Vincent nerf each other's strength there, H. not that I buy it, but eh. --- xyzzy http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2636/ivotedphoenixyi0.png |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 9/17/2007 10:20:22 PM | message detail |
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Freaking Auron couldn't swing 10% on Alucard during the day. Okay, Auron isn't THAT great. Didn't he actually lose it to Subby. I seem to recall him over 60% at night --- Fc: 4768 3939 5325 |
| Lopen | Posted 9/17/2007 10:20:54 PM | message detail |
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Good point on Jill/Ryu H. Jill hardly lost anything to Ryu Hayabusa during the day, and he's X-Box, and defeated Zero's day vote. The crappiness of Jill's day vote is overrated, here. --- Raiden, Kirby, my stat analyses and my own face all suck horribly. Note to everyone on Board 8: XIII_rocks never loses sig bets. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/17/2007 10:22:09 PM | message detail |
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I know, and the idea is probably true...though I'm feeling rather
certain it's not going to be to THAT extent. I just think this in
another damning piece of evidence against Zero. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2007 10:22:48 PM | message detail |
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I would peg HK/Lloyd to be around The Boss/Tails, and Jak may still
improve with the day vote. Vincent/Zero, I'd take Vincent with 57% or
so 1v1. That's close enough that the even split he and Crono will cause
should allow Zero to squeeze in TuRtLe ~~~ 48/60 in the contest. Next pick: Zero > Jak BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/17/2007 10:23:18 PM | message detail |
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Auron's night percentage and day percentage against Sub-Zero were both 58-60%. His morning was a bit stronger at 62-64%. --- Mustache...and green... www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| MMXcalibur | Posted 9/17/2007 10:23:18 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, Zero's toast if he's doing this poorly against fodder/weak competition. --- HOT WOMEN: http://plum.sakura.ne.jp/~alice/gallery/graphic/2006/796hp.jpg http://plum.sakura.ne.jp/~alice/gallery/graphic/2006/844hp.jpg |
| Lopen | Posted 9/17/2007 10:23:55 PM | message detail |
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I don't agree that Crono and Vincent are going to hurt each other. Old
school square and new school square are different if you ask me, and
Vincent held up very well against Crono. I'd be more afraid of Link maiming Zero after what Luigi and Mario did to him. --- Raiden, Kirby, my stat analyses and my own face all suck horribly. Note to everyone on Board 8: XIII_rocks never loses sig bets. |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 9/17/2007 10:24:05 PM | message detail |
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Attention Black Turtle - Link and Zero share more of a fanbase than Crono and Vincent --- Fc: 4768 3939 5325 |
| transience | Posted 9/17/2007 10:25:11 PM | message detail |
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no, Jill's day vote is truly pathetic. I'd be hard-pressed to name a
character she'd win the day vote against. Kefka.. maybe Lettuce Kefka.
that's about all. the way I look at this match: Scorpion had a stronger fourpack all-around. Kratos is clearly above Lloyd, Midna = Ness > Jak, and HK and Agent 47 put up about the same numbers on KH1 Sora. Scorpion got 36% and is thought to be MUCH weaker than Zero. if Zero can't break 40% here, I'd call it pretty pathetic. he'll probably get into the low-mid 40s though, so that's not all bad. --- xyzzy http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2636/ivotedphoenixyi0.png |
| MMXcalibur | Posted 9/17/2007 10:25:13 PM | message detail |
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....but Black Turtle continues living in his own little world where
Zero suprises everyone. Well, I suppose you have to stick by what you
believe in..... --- HOT WOMEN: http://plum.sakura.ne.jp/~alice/gallery/graphic/2006/796hp.jpg http://plum.sakura.ne.jp/~alice/gallery/graphic/2006/844hp.jpg |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/17/2007 10:26:38 PM | message detail |
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I don't agree that Crono and Vincent are going to hurt each other.
Old school square and new school square are different if you ask me ...the games came out two years apart. FFVII came out five years before KH (and a whole generation), and we all saw what happened in Aeris vs. Sora. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 9/17/2007 10:26:41 PM | message detail |
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Midna = Ness? Funny you should say that because it's Scorpion who equals Ness. Need I direct you back to Auron in 2004? --- Fc: 4768 3939 5325 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2007 10:27:22 PM | message detail |
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I said in my writeup, Zero's probably being hurt here by the same match
pic he had against Luigi. Hopefully Sailor Bacon does something
different for round 3. Either face shots or sprite round would be
preferential. TuRtLe ~~~ 48/60 in the contest. Next pick: Zero > Jak BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2007 10:29:58 PM | message detail |
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I don't agree that Crono and Vincent are going to hurt each other.
Old school square and new school square are different if you ask me And old school Blizzard is different than new school Blizzard? Mewtwo is a full 10 years newer than Bowser and Toad. 2 characters from the 2 most popular RPGs on this site, from the same company, and you think there WON'T be SFF? TuRtLe ~~~ 48/60 in the contest. Next pick: Zero > Jak BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/17/2007 10:30:31 PM | message detail |
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I'll take Tails over any of Zero's opponents today with 53-47 or more
head-to-head, and The Boss would likely compete with any of them as
well. Then throw in Zelda... ...different format, I know, and I think you're on the right track that your theory will hinder them. I just think, given the distances between Crono/Vincent and Zero (I'd take Vincent to get 57% on Luigi and Crono got 57.5% on Bowser), that's relying far too much on that theory. That also ignores Link potentially SFF'ing Zero too, but hey, one point at a time...! --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2007 10:31:47 PM | message detail |
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Crono/Vincent had low votals. That enough signifies fanbase overlap.
The only matches lower in the later rounds were Mario/Samus,
Yoshi/Pac-Man and Samus/Ganondorf. All SFF matches. TuRtLe ~~~ 48/60 in the contest. Next pick: Zero > Jak BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Lopen | Posted 9/17/2007 10:32:25 PM | message detail |
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Two years apart, but the key is it was a jump from SNES to Playstation,
and possibly a threshold on the age of the voting base. I'd imagine a lot more of the voters had their first system in the PS era than the PS2 era. Fact is. We've seen Vincent/Crono. There wasn't SFF. I don't see why this is an issue. It's not as if there's an upper bound on the fanbase of Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 7 on this site.. I'd wager at least 80% of the site has played at least one. no, Jill's day vote is truly pathetic. I'd be hard-pressed to name a character she'd win the day vote against Everyone says this... but where's the evidence? Looking at it, aside from Jill/Sheena I've yet to see a match where she bombed the day vote. Yeah, she lost it to Ryu Hayabusa... an X-Box character, and Peach, a Nintendo character. And even then, she didn't lose it by much. --- Raiden, Kirby, my stat analyses and my own face all suck horribly. Note to everyone on Board 8: XIII_rocks never loses sig bets. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/17/2007 10:32:46 PM | message detail |
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no, Jill's day vote is truly pathetic. I'd be hard-pressed to name a
character she'd win the day vote against. Kefka.. maybe Lettuce Kefka.
that's about all. Frog won the day vote on Sprite Snake. And I mean literally won - he took 15m updates from him. Your move. :p --- Mustache...and green... www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| Keno316 | Posted 9/17/2007 10:32:57 PM | message detail |
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Simply put, Zero seems really outclassed that match. Even if you could
make a case of Zero suffering cause of SFF from Luigi...the fact he has
LINK to contend with in that match does speak bad for him. --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB *Claims KG's Eclair, C.C. & Tear Grants* |
| ZFS | Posted 9/17/2007 10:32:59 PM | message detail |
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WHY MUST YOU SPIN EVERYTHING --- Final Fantasy VII Remake -- Believe |
| JaKyL25 | Posted 9/17/2007 10:33:16 PM | message detail |
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On an unrelated note, it makes me a sad panda to see that no one cares about Jak. :-( Screw my bracket, I hope Daxter wins this whole damn contest. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. Character Battle V Contest Winner! |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/17/2007 10:33:20 PM | message detail |
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Bah, stupid Hk-47. Why did you have to disappoint me back in 2k4 when I
took you over Sora, and then win here when I took Lloyd over you? --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2007 10:33:27 PM | message detail |
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And of course Bowser/Kirby, which IIRC had the lowest votals that year TuRtLe ~~~ 48/60 in the contest. Next pick: Zero > Jak BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| transience | Posted 9/17/2007 10:34:01 PM | message detail |
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Jill lost the day vote badly to Peach, who lost the day vote to
freaking Meta-Knight badly. Jill lost it to Ocelot, a MGS character.
Jill lost it to Sheena worse than any Tales opponent. Jill.. I mean,
when has she held up? when? --- xyzzy http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2636/ivotedphoenixyi0.png |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2007 10:34:27 PM | message detail |
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But Lopen, those are the only matches we have updates for her. If we had updates from 2k2/2k3 I'm sure we could show you more examples. TuRtLe ~~~ 48/60 in the contest. Next pick: Zero > Jak BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 9/17/2007 10:34:29 PM | message detail |
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Jak is going to pull a Crash. Bank on it. --- Feel my truth. |
| Lopen | Posted 9/17/2007 10:35:54 PM | message detail |
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Man, am I the spinner? I don't even know what that means, exactly! --- Raiden, Kirby, my stat analyses and my own face all suck horribly. Note to everyone on Board 8: XIII_rocks never loses sig bets. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2007 10:36:09 PM | message detail |
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He's going to pull a Crash, but nowhere near enough to win. There is no
Magus to steal percentage from today. HK, Lloyd and Zero are much
better day characters than Crash's opponents. TuRtLe ~~~ 48/60 in the contest. Next pick: Zero > Jak BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| ZFS | Posted 9/17/2007 10:37:00 PM | message detail |
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Man, am I the spinner? I don't even know what that means, exactly! Nah, not you. I'm talking about Mr. Zero over here. --- Final Fantasy VII Remake -- Believe |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2007 10:37:25 PM | message detail |
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Ryu is allowed to have a bad year and Zero isn't? Besides, Zero avoided SFF from Mega Man. I can't see someone unrelated getting SFF on him. TuRtLe ~~~ 48/60 in the contest. Next pick: Zero > Jak BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/17/2007 10:37:59 PM | message detail |
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the way I look at this match: Scorpion had a stronger fourpack
all-around. Kratos is clearly above Lloyd, Midna = Ness > Jak, and
HK and Agent 47 put up about the same numbers on KH1 Sora. Scorpion got
36% and is thought to be MUCH weaker than Zero. if Zero can't break 40%
here, I'd call it pretty pathetic. he'll probably get into the low-mid
40s though, so that's not all bad. I wouldn't say Midna = Ness or MAYBE even Midna > Jak right now, and HK-47 did better on Sora pre-KH2 than Agent 47 did (though Sora had KH:CoM between those matches)...but you're still on the right track -- don't forget Zero embarrassed Scorpion in 2k3, keeping the guy who just made an Elite Eight run at ~37% in the first round. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| Yesmar | Posted 9/17/2007 10:39:38 PM | message detail |
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To change to a completely different subject, has anyone seen the Poll
Updates for Mario Vs. Crono III? The percentages there keep shifting
all over the place. It's not that they shift by a lot, but the two of
them taking the day/midday vote at such random times. --- "Look out-- It's Liquids and Gases!" |
| Lopen | Posted 9/17/2007 10:39:42 PM | message detail |
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Well I just know earlier today Tranny was calling me a spinner and I think I was getting some mad spider cred or something. --- Raiden, Kirby, my stat analyses and my own face all suck horribly. Note to everyone on Board 8: XIII_rocks never loses sig bets. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/17/2007 10:39:54 PM | message detail |
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| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2007 10:40:50 PM | message detail |
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Zero over 40% Good night TuRtLe ~~~ 48/60 in the contest. Next pick: Zero > Jak BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/17/2007 10:41:47 PM | message detail |
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Zero's chances to lose next round over 40%. Good night. --- Kleenex - Now with an invigorating blast of citrus cherry flavor. CB6 - 46/60; Oracle - 41th |
| Lopen | Posted 9/17/2007 10:41:49 PM | message detail |
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And yeah, I guess Jill did lose it pretty significantly to Peach. I
didn't think her lead was that high before the day. I still don't buy
that she's terribly weak with it, though. X-Box and Nintendo edge her
out... what ever will we do? --- Raiden, Kirby, my stat analyses and my own face all suck horribly. Note to everyone on Board 8: XIII_rocks never loses sig bets. |
| GyratingGrandma | Posted 9/17/2007 10:42:12 PM | message detail |
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At this point, even if Jak did gain 5%,
he'd still lose. Going into this I felt like Jak was either going to
take it pretty easily, or completely bomb. Unfortunately it was the
latter. --- mmm feel the vibration baby |
| Haste_2 | Posted 9/17/2007 10:42:29 PM | message detail |
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Zero and Mega Man surely have a large overlap... Mega Man was just
favored equally to Zero, relative to their strength. If a character
avoids SFF against someone, it doesn't mean they can't have a large
overlap... the fanbase just prefers them relatively equally. However,
if someone gets SFFed badly one-on-one, then I think it's safe to make an assumption about SFF in a four-way poll (in that they'd hurt each other's votes). --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/17/2007 10:42:37 PM | message detail |
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Getting back from work to see hk winning, and only being really threatened by lloyd = awesome. Even then, doesn't lloyd have an unbelievably pathetic day vote? --- sig |
| transience | Posted 9/17/2007 10:42:54 PM | message detail |
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oh, that's because you were trying to turn Raiden's flop into a positive! --- xyzzy http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2636/ivotedphoenixyi0.png |
| Big Bob | Posted 9/17/2007 10:44:27 PM | message detail |
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Lloyd Irving, wake up! --- September 29th: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=38262325 |
| GyratingGrandma | Posted 9/17/2007 10:44:29 PM | message detail |
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Master Hand > Zero confirmed. --- mmm feel the vibration baby |
