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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2007 12:49:19 PM | message detail
ASSERTION!!!

Raiden is underperforming due to Sam Fisher splitting the Tactical Espionage vote with him.


DENIED!!!

...who the hell likes both MGS and Splinter Cell, anyway? <_<
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NominateSerge | Posted 9/17/2007 12:49:27 PM | message detail
Of course, as I say that, Fisher makes a big cut. He's made big cuts in this match so far only to let Raiden gain on him the next update so far though.

And Belmont's about to break 10,000 votes! Huzzah!
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ESY16 | Posted 9/17/2007 12:50:09 PM | message detail
I also think that Raiden is going to pull this out in the end. Fisher isn't impressing me with the afternoon vote, which is just fine by me as I have Raiden in my bracket.

I think it is pretty safe to assume that Raiden will get a MGS2 pic next round and that should definitely let us know if the MGS4 pic hurt him.
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ff6man | Posted 9/17/2007 12:50:43 PM | message detail
Another cut by Fisher.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/17/2007 12:50:47 PM | message detail
Raiden is underperforming due to Sam Fisher splitting the Tactical Espionage vote with him.

That's not really a consideration when comparing Fisher and Raiden to each other, unless you actually think that Sam is rSFFing Raiden...
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swirIdude | Posted 9/17/2007 12:50:55 PM | message detail
I think Sam Fisher is about on pace with how many votes per update he needs for a comeback.

Of course, the chances of the day vote and the final night vote being exactly the same are nil!
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NominateSerge | Posted 9/17/2007 12:51:35 PM | message detail
Haha, Raiden spiked that time only to have Fisher get an even bigger spike.

Poor Crono.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2007 12:51:40 PM | message detail
I still can't get over how bad Simon is doing today... guess 2k2 wasn't a fluke, though he really didn't have much reason to perform better (he's even stuck with the same opponent and then some!).

...and man, Crono. I know he always falls apart here, but this is just...
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/17/2007 12:52:32 PM | message detail
Just wait 'till the DBZ vote kickg in!
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 9/17/2007 12:53:21 PM | message detail
From: Karma Hunter
ASSERTION!!!

Raiden is underperforming due to Sam Fisher splitting the Tactical Espionage vote with him.


DENIED!!!

...who the hell likes both MGS and Splinter Cell, anyway? &lt;_&lt;


Me.
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SC2k7: 41/56, tied for 784th
Today's Pick: Crono > Sam Fisher
NominateSerge | Posted 9/17/2007 12:54:23 PM | message detail
Well, we've seen how far Alucard has fallen since the glory days of 2002 and 2003. Belmont was already much weaker than that, so he had nowhere to go but even farther down, really.

And I wish someone like Kefka was put here in Sam's place just to see if the servers would crash when the clock struck 3 P.M.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2007 12:54:27 PM | message detail
It's not safe at all to assume that Raiden gets an MGS2 picture next round (especially if it's like the sprite round or something)! And some of these comparisons are getting out of hand - ZSS? Raiden's not underperforming by ten points or so here.
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 9/17/2007 12:55:51 PM | message detail
Yeah, I'd say Raiden is only off by 2% AT MOST. Maybe 1%.
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SC2k7: 41/56, tied for 784th
Today's Pick: Crono > Sam Fisher
NominateSerge | Posted 9/17/2007 12:56:17 PM | message detail
Also, I own 30% of the top 10 on the leaderboard! Bow to me, fedor!
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/17/2007 12:57:42 PM | message detail
Imagine if Raiden gets his MGS2 art next round. That's quite possibly even worse.

http://a.rampal.free.fr/fanarts/raiden2.jpg
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/17/2007 12:58:16 PM | message detail
Raiden is off by about 80% and you all know it.
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jonthomson | Posted 9/17/2007 12:58:44 PM | message detail
Will quickly do some numbers once we get the 4pm update, film at eleven
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Jon Thomson - 44/56, next picks: Crono beats Raiden
Bracket analysis: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=37520975
swirIdude | Posted 9/17/2007 12:58:50 PM | message detail
GHOST OF RAIDEN!

RAIDEN BELMONT!

SECRET CHARACTER IN ALUKART!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2007 12:58:52 PM | message detail
Raiden with 100.36% of the vote
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 9/17/2007 12:59:09 PM | message detail
From: KleenexTissue50
Raiden is off by about 80% and you all know it.

You're right, he should be -60%!
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SC2k7: 41/56, tied for 784th
Today's Pick: Crono > Sam Fisher
KamikazePotato | Posted 9/17/2007 1:01:03 PM | message detail
There are two possible reasons for Raiden underperforming:

1. MGS4 pic. Say what you will, but Raiden is a VERY common name in video games. It's less people not liking Raiden as much and more people not knowing who the hell he is.
2. Stealth split with Sam Fisher.
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jonthomson | Posted 9/17/2007 1:01:25 PM | message detail
Updates left: 96
Fisher trails by: 1316
Votes needed per update: 13.71
Votes catching per update (last 30 mins/last hour): 11.83/11.00
UNEXPECTED JINJO AT: not going to happen
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Jon Thomson - 44/56, next picks: Crono beats Raiden
Bracket analysis: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=37520975
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/17/2007 1:01:30 PM | message detail
I'll even be generous and let Crono grab .01% just so he can make it to the next round.
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 9/17/2007 1:01:56 PM | message detail
Soo Sam still isn't doing well enough. I think 5 PM is the best time for Xbox characters though is it not?

I'm glad I have to go to work at 4:30, don't have to stick around for Sam making gains then losing them in 5 minutes and disappointing me.
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SC2k7: 41/56, tied for 784th
Today's Pick: Crono > Sam Fisher
KamikazePotato | Posted 9/17/2007 1:02:22 PM | message detail
I love how even while Raiden loses vote his % doesn't budge, simply because Crono and SImon are sucking it up.
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swirIdude | Posted 9/17/2007 1:02:22 PM | message detail
AN UNEXPECTED JINJO OCCURED!
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/17/2007 1:02:29 PM | message detail
From KamikazePotato | Posted 9/17/2007 1:01:03 PM
There are two possible reasons for Raiden underperforming:

1. MGS4 pic. Say what you will, but Raiden is a VERY common name in video games. It's less people not liking Raiden as much and more people not knowing who the hell he is.
2. Stealth split with Sam Fisher.


3. Raiden's not as strong as we thought he would be.

I'm one of the bigger Raiden supporters here and I can still admit it. <_<
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SonicRaptor | Posted 9/17/2007 1:02:41 PM | message detail
1. MGS4 pic. Say what you will, but Raiden is a VERY common name in video games. It's less people not liking Raiden as much and more people not knowing who the hell he is.

I'm actually wondering if an MGS2 pic would be any different, seeing how nobody liked him in MGS2.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/17/2007 1:02:55 PM | message detail
That too Kleenex, but the other factors don't help.
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swirIdude | Posted 9/17/2007 1:02:58 PM | message detail
I think 5 PM is the best time for Xbox characters though is it not?

Sam Fisher is on every damn system, he is not an "Xbox" character.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2007 1:03:24 PM | message detail
I can't see the 'genericness' of Raiden's name hurting him. Are people really not going to vote for him if they get confused with the Raiden from Mortal Kombat (...somehow, looking at that picture?). Heck, I've always thought characters like Kratos Aurion have a *slight* edge thanks to sharing his name with a much more popular, casual badass.

...and damn it, Crono. I won't be surprised to see multiple sub-40% updates at this rate.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/17/2007 1:03:34 PM | message detail
Sam's still in this.

But it could be another Bomberman vs. Phoenix fiasco.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/17/2007 1:04:35 PM | message detail
Wait, this is Metal Gear Solid Raiden?

Damnit, I thought we were talking about Shadow Hearts 2 Raiden!

*rips up bracket*
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2007 1:04:41 PM | message detail
If Phoenix/Bomberman was a fiasco I need to get involved in more of those!
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 9/17/2007 1:05:56 PM | message detail
From: swirIdude
I think 5 PM is the best time for Xbox characters though is it not?

Sam Fisher is on every damn system, he is not an "Xbox" character.


He's most known for being on the Xbox, and he usually acts like an Xbox character in voting trends I believe.
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SC2k7: 41/56, tied for 784th
Today's Pick: Crono > Sam Fisher
ChichiriMuyo | Posted 9/17/2007 1:06:10 PM | message detail
"I'm actually wondering if an MGS2 pic would be any different, seeing how nobody liked him in MGS2."

Yeah, as if that ever mattered. Nobody likes Tidus, but he's not fodder scrapping the bottom of the barrel, is he? Just because your limited view is that nobody liked him in MGS2 doesn't mean it's true. Hell, no one here has played MGS4 yet, and still there are people who really want to see him doing better. How do you explain that if no one liked him in MGS2?
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SonicRaptor | Posted 9/17/2007 1:06:19 PM | message detail
I wouldn't describe Bomberman/Phoenix as a fiasco, since it was just Bomberman slowly catching up then stumbling once he reached a certain level allowing Phoenix to coast to victory.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/17/2007 1:07:06 PM | message detail
Raiden > Snake !!

Throwin' that one out there for HM.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/17/2007 1:07:29 PM | message detail
Snake>=Raiden

Both are super awesome though.
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 9/17/2007 1:08:37 PM | message detail
". Are people really not going to vote for him if they get confused with the Raiden from Mortal Kombat (...somehow, looking at that picture?)."

That's plain asinine. No one said people are confusing him with the MK Raiden, just that it's a common name and this picture is not going to be familiar to everyone. It's not a name like Mario where everyone knows who you are talking about without any other information. For Raiden you need disambiguation, and the picture certainly isn't providing that. Not everyone has seen the MGS4 trailer, after all, and even as someone who did I couldn't have identified that picture without any other information.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2007 1:08:42 PM | message detail
This equating Snake to Raiden nonsense is reminding me why he's in this position in the first place !!
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 9/17/2007 1:10:17 PM | message detail
"Raiden > Snake !!

Throwin' that one out there for HM."

Don't bait him into spreading his lies and blasphemy. If you wanna speak the truth, go for it. I don't mind hearing Raiden > Snake. But there's no sense in taunting the delusional. >_>
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red sox 777 | Posted 9/17/2007 1:11:31 PM | message detail
And Crono has just pulled two 50% updates in a row, the last one with over 53%.
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Bracket: Crono > Sam Fisher -- Vote: Crono
Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2007 1:12:38 PM | message detail
Maybe Crono will defy the odds and go on to win the afterschool vote!

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/17/2007 1:13:01 PM | message detail
Ha ha ha ha ha ha....
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 9/17/2007 1:13:38 PM | message detail
I'd almost be willing to pay to see that happen. Okay, I'd be willing to pay $5 to see that happen.
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hochiminh155 | Posted 9/17/2007 1:14:04 PM | message detail
Looks like no comeback for Sam Flopper today
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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 9/17/2007 1:14:07 PM | message detail
Yeah Crono just killed Sam's comeback.
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SC2k7: 41/56, tied for 784th
Today's Pick: Crono > Sam Fisher
NominateSerge | Posted 9/17/2007 1:15:14 PM | message detail
*Crono puts on a green helmet*

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DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 9/17/2007 1:16:01 PM | message detail
And Crono gives it right back! Not nearly enough though.
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SC2k7: 41/56, tied for 784th
Today's Pick: Crono > Sam Fisher
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