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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 487
| GyratingGrandma | Posted 9/17/2007 7:57:09 AM | message detail |
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I really think the pic is hurting Raiden here... it's not as if the
name is specific to MGS, and everyone would know him based on that. I
can see plenty of people not knowing who the **** that is when they go
to vote in the poll. Here's to him getting a MGS2 pic next round (naked
mid-cartwheel? Oh yes ! !) I hope he still loses to Zero for my bracket, but performs a lot more respectably than this. --- mmm feel the vibration baby |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2007 8:01:08 AM | message detail |
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And really, again - I seriously doubt the
picture is having an effect here. It's not a coincidence that those who
know jack about MGS are the only ones who suggested it before the fact,
and those who're saying it now seem to be using it more as an excuse
than anything else. If Raiden got a proper MGS2 picture next round and ended up owning Zero or something (because he totally is !!) that would be one thing, and I'd certainly eat my words then, but put an MGS2 pic here now and I see Raiden doing worse as easily as better. --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| GyratingGrandma | Posted 9/17/2007 8:04:31 AM | message detail |
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Not really.. I've played every MGS game, and I said this last night, but if you say so! --- mmm feel the vibration baby |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2007 8:04:49 AM | message detail |
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Take it from me, not everyone follows new releases, and certainly not
all the people who've played MGS2. The picture is making a difference
here, though some people are overblowing it. TuRtLe ~~~ 44/56 in the contest. Next pick: Crono > Raiden BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| GyratingGrandma | Posted 9/17/2007 8:06:01 AM | message detail |
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I don't think Raiden would suddenly be at 30% (lolpen), but I do think he'd be doing quite a bit better. --- mmm feel the vibration baby |
| Samurai7 | Posted 9/17/2007 8:06:23 AM | message detail |
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Yeah. Metal Gear Solid characters have never been affected by their pictures in the past guys, what are you thinking? --- Conformity and rebellion...both ways are simple-minded--they are only for people who cannot cope with contradiction and ambiguity. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2007 8:06:24 AM | message detail |
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Not really.. I've played every MGS game, and I said this last night, but if you say so! Then I'm sure you won't mind a friendly request for a link --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| GyratingGrandma | Posted 9/17/2007 8:07:05 AM | message detail |
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If you're serious about that I'll get it when I get back from class, if not, well I don't like you very much! --- mmm feel the vibration baby |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2007 8:08:31 AM | message detail |
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Yeah. Metal Gear Solid characters have never been affected by their pictures in the past guys, what are you thinking? Snake and his brethren have been stuck with the crappiest of crappy pics on a regular basis and perform just fine with them. If you're going to compare this to a sprite, I'm going to feel pretty justified in belittling that. --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| Samurai7 | Posted 9/17/2007 8:12:00 AM | message detail |
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They've gotten bad pictures and they always do just fine.... yet all of
a sudden they're all exceeding expectations and winning all of their
debatable matches. --- Conformity and rebellion...both ways are simple-minded--they are only for people who cannot cope with contradiction and ambiguity. |
| Samurai7 | Posted 9/17/2007 8:13:18 AM | message detail |
| That aside, as I'm sure it is minimal, my real
point is the picture CAN make a difference and honestly I wouldn't be
surprised if people didn't recognize that as Raiden from MGS. It isn't
like it is an uncommon name after all. --- Conformity and rebellion...both ways are simple-minded--they are only for people who cannot cope with contradiction and ambiguity. |
| Haste_2 | Posted 9/17/2007 8:14:58 AM | message detail |
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We all know Raiden isn't doing as well as he should because voters think he is Kuja!!! I know this has been brought up before, but I don't see pictures making as big of a difference in a four-way poll as the traditional polls. If you vote for one character over the three others, odds are that you like that character enough that a picture won't mean anything. I would imagine people who don't vote for sprite-based Snake are the ones who don't care about Snake that much in the first place. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2007 8:15:00 AM | message detail |
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That's because the format favors characters whose fanbases are loyal,
and seeing how every piece of evidence we have points to MGS being that
(Snake's run in the BR, Ocelot/Jill, The Boss/Tails, Big Boss getting
more on Mario/Pac/Wander than he was supposed to get on Mario alone).
Raiden isn't usable there, we have no comparison for him. For all we
know he could be even weaker outside of this format (I kind of doubt
it, but you never know). If we had an earlier read on Raiden of any
substance it'd be one thing... --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| Samurai7 | Posted 9/17/2007 8:16:56 AM | message detail |
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Honestly, theres all ready been a ton of polls in this contest where I
feel no real compelling draw to vote to one character over another.
Loyalty holds more water here but the true strength will always really
come from those able to draw on the people who are apathetic to the
other characters. --- Conformity and rebellion...both ways are simple-minded--they are only for people who cannot cope with contradiction and ambiguity. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2007 8:20:31 AM | message detail |
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Well, if that's the case it doesn't explain why Mr. DBZ isn't well over 50% <___< --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| metoolfan | Posted 9/17/2007 8:22:08 AM | message detail |
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Old Snake did well. Could Sam not just be doing quite well vs. Raiden? --- *is Xic* ...for 15 days |
| Samurai7 | Posted 9/17/2007 8:23:50 AM | message detail |
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Well, if that's the case it doesn't explain why Mr. DBZ isn't well over 50% <___< I expect Crono to come from the least played game by far out of all the characters in the NN even if it ranked highly in the spring contest. Thus theres always going to be a larger chunk of people apathetic to him. Against one character it is less likely that the apathy voters will have someone to prefer. --- Conformity and rebellion...both ways are simple-minded--they are only for people who cannot cope with contradiction and ambiguity. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2007 8:26:32 AM | message detail |
| While this format could certainly favor Fisher,
the odds of this being a product of his strength are... low. He's
ALWAYS been pathetic - even when measured through an overrated
Magus/Master Chief. Hence why Raiden was a favorite and many took Simon Belmont here - one we'd never had a read on and the other was 2k2 fodder, but people just don't respect the Splinter Cell. I like Fisher myself - he's the my favorite out of the pack - but I'd like to see how he'd do in a match with Solid Snake for kicks... --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| BDawg | Posted 9/17/2007 8:35:16 AM | message detail |
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I guess we'll have to wait until 3 PM to see if something happens, but
Fisher definitely has the prerequisite stalls under his belt. --- Should I start running now? |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2007 8:37:35 AM | message detail |
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Fisher's been stalling all match... (which is odd, coming from a lot of
the comments in the previous topic I would have guessed he was well on
his way back sooner than not). I'm not convinced he has what it takes,
Marcus was well on his way back at this point. Not that he has to do much against the MGS afterschool vote, but if he lets it get out of hand it'll just turn into another Boss/Tails at the end. --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| paraboxx | Posted 9/17/2007 8:40:31 AM | message detail |
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Take it from me, not everyone follows new releases Me, for example. ...but all those MGS loyalists are probably better informed. Crono's doing...kinda bad. Raiden looks like a chump. Not sure what it means for either of them, with this format...but the only one having a good day is Fisher. ...how sad is that.... |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/17/2007 8:52:19 AM | message detail |
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Time | Crono . . | Fisher . | Simon . | Raiden 01:00 | 47.96% | 17.54% | 13.88% | 20.62% 02:00 | 51.38% | 16.45% | 12.61% | 19.57% 03:00 | 49.91% | 17.64% | 13.03% | 19.42% 04:00 | 48.25% | 15.87% | 12.92% | 22.95% 05:00 | 49.13% | 17.31% | 14.03% | 19.53% 06:00 | 46.06% | 16.93% | 12.52% | 24.49% 07:00 | 46.68% | 20.53% | 12.22% | 20.56% 08:00 | 46.39% | 20.82% | 13.06% | 19.74% 09:00 | 47.49% | 19.18% | 13.10% | 20.23% 10:00 | 48.66% | 18.50% | 13.80% | 19.04% 11:00 | 49.06% | 18.41% | 12.60% | 19.94% Fisher stalled Raiden in the morning, but Raiden managed to maintain 20% so Sam didn't to cut anything. Sam's got a decent shot of doing something once 3:00 hits but he needs Raiden to fall, too. Crono's morning vote doesn't bode well for him in the afterschool period but that should be expected. --- Mustache...and green... www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 9/17/2007 8:55:44 AM | message detail |
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Marcus only cut around 300 off Kefka's peak during school hours. AFTER school hours he completely dominated. I'm just waiting till 2-3 PM hits now, that will be the moment of truth. --- SC2k7: 41/56, tied for 784th Today's Pick: Crono > Sam Fisher |
| Kyle Bowen | Posted 9/17/2007 9:14:49 AM | message detail |
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GO SAM GO!!! KB |
| DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 9/17/2007 9:41:10 AM | message detail |
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KB I think we're the only SC fans here :( --- SC2k7: 41/56, tied for 784th Today's Pick: Crono > Sam Fisher |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2007 9:47:58 AM | message detail |
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Once again, and bolded so people don't forget it on the next page: OLD SNAKE IS STILL VERY CLEARLY SNAKE. CYBORG RAIDEN LOOKS NOTHING LIKE MGS2 RAIDEN. THIS WOULD BE LIKE COMPARING SAMUS GETTING THE VARIA SUIT TO ZERO SUIT SAMUS! TuRtLe ~~~ 44/56 in the contest. Next pick: Crono > Raiden BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| ZFS | Posted 9/17/2007 9:50:20 AM | message detail |
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Surprising to see Crono wasn't quite able to hit 50% last night. Figured he would. Should be good to see if Fisher has what it takes to comeback here, too. --- Final Fantasy VII Remake -- Believe |
| DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 9/17/2007 9:51:00 AM | message detail |
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I agree with BT here. I thought Raiden was weaker than everyone thought
but not THIS weak. The pic is definitely hurting him, only people
following the MGS4 trailers will recognize him, while Sam has a
trademark trifocal goggle pic. --- SC2k7: 41/56, tied for 784th Today's Pick: Crono > Sam Fisher |
| DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 9/17/2007 9:52:27 AM | message detail |
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Ouch, Sam did awful that update. 73 votes. --- SC2k7: 41/56, tied for 784th Today's Pick: Crono > Sam Fisher |
| JustForFun1988 | Posted 9/17/2007 10:00:55 AM | message detail |
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I can recognise old Snake without watching the trailer but there is no
way i can recognise that cyborg Raiden without watching the trailer. A
good handful of people are just casual gamer and they don't follow new
release. There are some characters that go by the name of "Raiden" (MK,
Fatal Fury, MGS) so i think the unrecognisable trailer picture might
confuse some voters. --- Proud Supporter of Solid Snake, Dante and Ryu. Alt Account of someone who is lame and stupid |
| ChichiriMuyo | Posted 9/17/2007 10:01:17 AM | message detail |
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I really hope none of you are expecting Raiden to have a day vote like Kefka. If that's where you are placing your hopes, prepare for the worst. --- You do not have the right to never be offended. |
| transience | Posted 9/17/2007 10:03:06 AM | message detail |
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| transience | Posted 9/17/2007 10:04:07 AM | message detail |
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grr typos it's been said, but I feel *very* confident in Raiden here. Fisher did nothing during the morning vote, Raiden's increasing more and more, and Fisher is hardly Axel. I'd be pretty shocked to see a comeback -- I wouldn't even be amazed if Raiden just kept going like this all the way to the end of the poll. the MGS4 picture thing.. well, I've commented on it enough by now. I'll quickly admit that I'm not in tune with the MGS fanbase, but it certainly looks like it has the potential to hurt. we'll know more next round, since I'm pretty sure this match is wrapped up. --- xyzzy http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2636/ivotedphoenixyi0.png |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/17/2007 10:12:13 AM | message detail |
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Considering he's going even with Sam Fisher I highly doubt he's a threat to Zero next round. He's not the same Zero we saw in 2k3, but he hasn't fallen THAT far. TuRtLe ~~~ 44/56 in the contest. Next pick: Crono > Raiden BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| NotTerrafire | Posted 9/17/2007 10:17:39 AM | message detail |
| Crono... is gaining? What the hell? |
| GyratingGrandma | Posted 9/17/2007 10:20:24 AM | message detail |
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CRONOFEAR --- mmm feel the vibration baby |
| JustForFun1988 | Posted 9/17/2007 10:20:39 AM | message detail |
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This is still the during School period. Magus, Frog and Kefka are still gaining extremely small percentage during this time. --- Proud Supporter of Solid Snake, Dante and Ryu. Alt Account of someone who is lame and stupid |
| NotTerrafire | Posted 9/17/2007 10:24:14 AM | message detail |
| Huh. Someone should write to Squaresoft explaining that one of their Noble Niners is going to become mortal soon... then we'll see about that third Chrono game. W00T W00T. |
| red sox 777 | Posted 9/17/2007 10:26:36 AM | message detail |
| Magus actually lost less than 1% with the
afterschool vote. Crono's always been better than Magus at the day
vote, so don't be surprised if he doesn't collapse this afternoon. --- Character Battle VI -- Points: 45/56 -- T-132 (48 way) Bracket: Crono > Sam Fisher -- Vote: Crono |
| transience | Posted 9/17/2007 10:27:27 AM | message detail |
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that Magus match is a bad comparison. god only knows what happened in that thing. use Frog's match if you want to be more reliable. --- xyzzy http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2636/ivotedphoenixyi0.png |
| red sox 777 | Posted 9/17/2007 10:30:07 AM | message detail |
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Well, Axel and Samus have much better day votes than Crono's current
opponents, while Magus's opponents seem closer in that area. And any
rallying due to Phoenix/Bomberman being close would only hurt Magus's
afterschool vote. --- Character Battle VI -- Points: 45/56 -- T-132 (48 way) Bracket: Crono > Sam Fisher -- Vote: Crono |
| transience | Posted 9/17/2007 10:32:27 AM | message detail |
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that's not the problem.. the problem is that Phoenix Wright ruined any
chance of Magus getting a high percentage early on. the Phoenix Wright
Power Hour pretty much guarantees that to be the case of any first-hour
guys. it's hard to fall when you don't build up that huge cushion. --- xyzzy http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2636/ivotedphoenixyi0.png |
| jonthomson | Posted 9/17/2007 10:42:28 AM | message detail |
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People seriously think Sam has a chance of coming back? That's far fetched imo --- Jon Thomson - 44/56, next picks: Crono beats Raiden Bracket analysis: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=37520975 |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/17/2007 10:44:21 AM | message detail |
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Nothing is ever far fecthed if you believe. --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe Crono/Raiden/Sam/Simon - Bracket: Crono > Raiden - Vote: Raiden (48/56) |
| NotTerrafire | Posted 9/17/2007 10:44:34 AM | message detail |
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| NotTerrafire | Posted 9/17/2007 10:45:12 AM | message detail |
| Oh yeah I agree about Magus. Nobody should take his performance in that match as showing his power, as he was screwed by ridiculous Phoenix rallying and probably even Bomberman rallying (lol). He's not as dead as people are saying. |
| DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 9/17/2007 10:45:36 AM | message detail |
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I believe damnit. --- SC2k7: 41/56, tied for 784th Today's Pick: Crono > Sam Fisher |
| DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 9/17/2007 10:47:26 AM | message detail |
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Biggest Fisher cut in like 4 hours there. --- SC2k7: 41/56, tied for 784th Today's Pick: Crono > Sam Fisher |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 9/17/2007 11:03:38 AM | message detail |
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If Raiden had his MGS2 pic, he would be pushing for 25% --- Feel my truth. |
| Kyle Bowen | Posted 9/17/2007 11:04:51 AM | message detail |
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If Sam had his DA pic he would be winning for sure. <sarcasm/> KB |
