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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 483

JaKyL25 | Posted 9/15/2007 7:18:57 AM | message detail
You know, bracket aside, it would be interesting to see Link blaze through a contest where all the cheating forces on the internet were determined to take him out.

I bet he'd still win.
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Haste_2 | Posted 9/15/2007 7:19:40 AM | message detail
AGH, Edgeworth, why do you have to be so weak?! It shows my point in that Phoenix gets a lot of votes from name recognition, though.

And, I'm amazed that Bidoof will be able to get close to 18%... I mean, Nidoran F got 18% on Samus, but we've got Link involved instead of Samus, two other guys, and I figured Bidoof was (much) weaker than Nidoran F. I'm interested to see how Mudkip can do.

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JaKyL25 | Posted 9/15/2007 7:20:58 AM | message detail
And Lopen, was your sig bet hinging on 70%? I think you just might have conceded defeat a little early.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 9/15/2007 7:22:45 AM | message detail
Bidoof is miles ahead of Edgeworth!

c wut I did thar
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JaKyL25 | Posted 9/15/2007 7:24:02 AM | message detail
You could say that Bidoof has the Edge and is Worthy of Linking to the second round. J.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/15/2007 7:27:27 AM | message detail
I'm not complaining about today's match. I'm more into Phoenix Wright than Bidoof.
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Today: Link > Bidoof - Vote: Link
Tomorrow: Vincent > Zelda - Vote: Tails - Points: 38/48
ffmasterjose | Posted 9/15/2007 7:30:13 AM | message detail
"You could say that Bidoof has the Edge and is Worthy of Linking to the second round. J."

Hahaha. I don't know why I find that so funny.
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Tediz247 | Posted 9/15/2007 7:43:24 AM | message detail
There it is. Agent J has officially matched Adventure.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/15/2007 7:44:13 AM | message detail
Well, I can at least take solice in the fact that Edgeworth would have lost to Bidoof regarless of 4chan influence.

Bidoof's % is still way too high, though. Keep going, Link.
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Pondos | Posted 9/15/2007 7:48:44 AM | message detail
Miles is starting to catch up.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/15/2007 7:51:17 AM | message detail
...no he isn't.
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Pondos | Posted 9/15/2007 7:52:05 AM | message detail
Yes he is, at least with the percentages.
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JustForFun1988 | Posted 9/15/2007 7:52:20 AM | message detail
Miles is starting to catch up.

Huh????? Bidoof is building a steady lead of 50 votes every update.
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Cid | Posted 9/15/2007 7:59:01 AM | message detail
Yes he is, at least with the percentages.

Lol. I hope you know that that doesn't mean anything. Bidoof is still increasing his lead.
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voltch | Posted 9/15/2007 8:02:09 AM | message detail
i was wondering when people would go PERCENTAGES HAVE DECREASED COMEBACK IS ON!
while the lead keeps getting bigger.
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Xcarvengerx | Posted 9/15/2007 8:09:36 AM | message detail
Well, I can at least take solice in the fact that Edgeworth would have lost to Bidoof regarless of 4chan influence.

Yea, I would say Bidoof would get around 11-12% here, whereas Edgeworth should be happy if he can break 10% at the end of the match (he will bleed a lot of % if he follow Phoenix trend later in the day).

However, I am 100% sure there has been a vote stuffing in this match in the first half an hour (for Bidoof since he is the one who got the most benefit from this). Just look at the first 30 minutes votals in this match and compare it to the first 30 minutes votals in the first match (Knuckles v Yoshi etc) and then compare each update after that.
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Xcarvengerx | Posted 9/15/2007 8:11:35 AM | message detail
*Bidoof would get around 11-12% here without 4chan interference.
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Samurai7 | Posted 9/15/2007 8:13:26 AM | message detail
Or it could just be a lot more people were here because of the excitement that was the end of the phoenix match and people left over from the rallying that took place.
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Xcarvengerx | Posted 9/15/2007 8:15:46 AM | message detail
Then why would they vote Bidoof instead of Miles?
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/15/2007 8:16:31 AM | message detail
4chan.
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Samurai7 | Posted 9/15/2007 8:17:10 AM | message detail
4chan supports fads

phoenix = fad
bidoof = fad
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Yesmar | Posted 9/15/2007 8:17:16 AM | message detail
this is probably one of the sadder topics i've ever seen. I'd seriously recommend a few of you get some psychiatric help

Um... If you think that people's complaints about cheating are bad enough to require psychiatric help, why are you even on the Contest Board let alone in a topic called Stats and *Discussion.* What did you expect people to do in here other than discuss the contest?

Classic Stats topic. When Phoenix shocks everyone and does well, it's completely legit, yet when Bidoof does well and Edgey doesn't, it must be cheating.

I don't think anyone, let alone the people talking about cheating think that Edgeworth would still beat Bidoof. However, there is still a huge amount of evidence implying that some substanial cheating was going on in the earlier hours of the match. And I have heard some people complain about how 4chan said they cheated for Phoenix Wright as well.

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transience | Posted 9/15/2007 8:20:24 AM | message detail
I hope that we don't have a witch hunt here regarding what's legit and what isn't. you really don't know, and I sure hope you aren't trusting a single thing 4chan says.

Phoenix's match looked pretty legit to my eyes. it's not like he had these huge 100 vote spikes or anything. Bidoof is a little more suspect, but it looks like it wouldn't have mattered at all.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/15/2007 8:21:29 AM | message detail
Looks like Miles just can't get that much support. I was hoping the Phoenix support was bigger than just himself, but that doesn't appear to be the case.

Oh well, gg Bidoof. Hopefully Mudkip can do the same later.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/15/2007 8:35:16 AM | message detail
heh, this contest has been so crazy and we're not even at the half-way mark.
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Tomorrow: Vincent > Zelda - Vote: Tails - Points: 38/48
Xcarvengerx | Posted 9/15/2007 8:36:48 AM | message detail
Yea, I agree with transience. I just looked at the last hour of Phoenix match, and there is nothing that suspicious in there. And this match will still run as expected without 4chan stuff anyway, but if it looks like that the admins do not really care about vote stuffing and other abnormalities like the first half an hour of this match (CJayC did!), it will encourage 4chan to find a way to do more damages in their mudkip match and round 2. I know this is weekend and all, so I don't expect SBAllen to show up anytime soon and he may already have something to prevent this!

And I thought Bidoof was a Board 8 thing... wonder what will happen in mudkip match...
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Tai | Posted 9/15/2007 8:37:48 AM | message detail
From: ExThaNemesis | Posted: 9/15/2007 9:26:03 AM | Message Detail
You people are ridiculous. Seriously. I can' t believe it absolutely HAS to be vote stuffing, and that your precious Edgeworth might just be incredibly weak.


This. It took me a while to realize he was in the same game as Pheonix. He's obviously not as popular.
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Cecil XIX | Posted 9/15/2007 8:39:05 AM | message detail
For the guy who said 4chan should have their own contest: http://saigar.darkmirage.com/
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Tai | Posted 9/15/2007 8:39:59 AM | message detail
Um... If you think that people's complaints about cheating are bad enough to require psychiatric help, why are you even on the Contest Board let alone in a topic called Stats and *Discussion.* What did you expect people to do in here other than discuss the contest?

Well, they don't need psychiatric help, but the claims are slimly possible at best, and asnine at worst. It's Link. You expect him to give Edge any mercy? At least, that's what it's looking like.
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NotTerrafire | Posted 9/15/2007 8:40:12 AM | message detail
Phoenix did have weird spikes all over the place... it's just that Bomberman and even Crash for a while were storming all over him, so instead of spikes they just looked like EPIC STALLS.

With a lead of 81 I'd be suspicious. Not that I care, but I'd be incredibly surprised if less than 81 votes were votestuffed by 4chan or others.
transience | Posted 9/15/2007 8:43:45 AM | message detail
that definitely wasn't a storm - Bomberman never had a huge update that just trashed Phoenix. he just slowly took 15-20 votes off his lead, and then Phoenix would stall. plus, Phoenix is FAR from your normal character as far as trends go. we all know that a lot of his power comes from rallying. it'd have to be a lot more blatant for me to call cheating there, especially when the admins have not said a thing.

...not that they seem to want to say a thing this year anyway, but I'd hope they would at least acknowledge what's happening today.
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Xcarvengerx | Posted 9/15/2007 8:44:44 AM | message detail
With a lead of 81 I'd be suspicious. Not that I care, but I'd be incredibly surprised if less than 81 votes were votestuffed by 4chan or others.

Eh? Rally =/= vote stuff. Rallying is allowed as far as I know, but not vote stuffing.
By the way, vote stuffing isn't that easy anymore in GameFAQs polls, and I don't think we should discuss about that...
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NotTerrafire | Posted 9/15/2007 8:45:54 AM | message detail
Just a sticky saying 'We removed all cheating votes' would be nice, even if it wasn't true... Just to clear things up.
Tai | Posted 9/15/2007 8:47:06 AM | message detail
Even if it wasn't true? Why would SB WANT to cause such chaos on purpose?
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NotTerrafire | Posted 9/15/2007 8:48:09 AM | message detail
How would anyone know whether it was true or not? For all we know loads of votes were removed anyway.
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/15/2007 8:52:34 AM | message detail
Whoa, with the way Link's increasing his percentage, he may get to 70% after all. He's flyin' now.

Still can't believe how well Bidoof is doing. Bleh, it makes me feel bad about Luigi > Tingle > Mudkip and Tidus > Serge > Pikachu. Lousy Pokemon ruining my bracket.

...Chances are I'll STILL be on the leaderboard tomorrow anyway though. Good grief. How is no one passing me up?
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Xcarvengerx | Posted 9/15/2007 8:54:58 AM | message detail
Either way, Bidoof will still win today (yay bracket!). I think these last few updates % are what we should expect without 4chan (morning votes on holiday = extended night votes, right?).
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Yesmar | Posted 9/15/2007 8:56:11 AM | message detail
Well, they don't need psychiatric help, but the claims are slimly possible at best, and asnine at worst. It's Link. You expect him to give Edge any mercy? At least, that's what it's looking like.

Once again, I don't think anyone is saying that Edgeworth would beat Bidoof if all of 4chan's alleged cheated votes were taken away. However, there is plenty of evidence to support the fact that there was some cheating going on for Bidoof.

A) He had over 20% on Link for the first four hours of the match.
B) The beginning of the poll had much higher votals than even the first poll of the year.
C) Most importantly, 4chan *themselves* talked about massive cheating!!

Occam's Razor would imply that there is definitely something fishy going on.
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transience | Posted 9/15/2007 8:56:29 AM | message detail
it's the weekend. this is pure day vote time.
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Tai | Posted 9/15/2007 9:00:19 AM | message detail
A) He had over 20% on Link for the first four hours of the match.


What would that mean in a 1on1 match?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 9/15/2007 9:03:01 AM | message detail
I also feel bad about other instances in which I didn't take the joke character to win, such as Kirby's fourpack.

Not Dante's fourpack though. Matt still sucks. Little Mac for the win!
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ffmasterjose | Posted 9/15/2007 9:04:09 AM | message detail
Matt's gonna win, watchu talkin' 'bout Willis?
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Yesmar | Posted 9/15/2007 9:04:16 AM | message detail
What would that mean in a 1on1 match?

I'm sorry. I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Wouldn't Bidoof just have more percentage if it was a one on one?
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Xcarvengerx | Posted 9/15/2007 9:04:38 AM | message detail
oops, yeah I mean day vote.

And Yesmar, you forgot one important detail:
B) The beginning of the poll had much higher votals than even the first poll of the year but after a few hours it has less votals than that first match. A big drop!.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/15/2007 9:15:28 AM | message detail
if Agent J is SFF'd enough.. would he beat Edgeworth?
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ZodiacXxxx | Posted 9/15/2007 9:16:53 AM | message detail
I don't think so
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Lady Ashe | Posted 9/15/2007 9:17:20 AM | message detail
phoenix > mario
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NominateSerge | Posted 9/15/2007 9:17:31 AM | message detail
Haha, Link jumped up nearly .1% that time.
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LinkLegend27 | Posted 9/15/2007 9:17:47 AM | message detail
Go Bidoof
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NominateSerge | Posted 9/15/2007 9:17:54 AM | message detail
Serge > Pikachu
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