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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 478

red sox 777 | Posted 9/13/2007 6:01:40 PM | message detail
I think the favorites for first haven't been doing as well as usual during the NPH this year because the people closely following the contest know they're going to win, and vote for someone else who may need the vote more.
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Bracket: Mario > Big Boss -- Vote: Mario
charmander6000 | Posted 9/13/2007 7:01:31 PM | message detail
Match XII: Bomberman vs Crash vs Phoenix Wright vs Magus

Information

Name: Bomberman
Game/Series From: Bomberman series
Past Contests: CB2k2, CB2k3, CB2k4
Wins: Kane (2k2)
Losses: Jill (2k2), Alucard (2k3), Squall (2k4)

Name: Crash Bandicoot
Game/Series From: Crash series
Past Contests: CB2k2, CB2k3, CB2k4
Wins: Ulala (2k2)
Losses: Sephiroth (2k2), KOS-MOS (2k3), Master Chief (2k4)

Name: Phoenix Wright
Game/Series From: Phoenix Wright series
Past Contests: CB2k6
Wins: None
Losses: Gordon Freeman (2k6)

Name: Janus “Magus” Zeal
Game/Series From: Chrono Trigger
Past Contests: CB2k3, CB2k4, CB2k5
Wins: Sam Fisher (2k3), Ganondorf (2k3), Luca Blight (2k4)
Losses: Link (2k3), Crono (2k4), Knuckles (2k5)

Analysis

Again first place is pretty much decided for this match, but unlike the other matches there is going to be a three-way fight for whoever wants to take second. Statistically speaking Bomberman would take second, but as you may all know stats don’t mean much in this contest.

Magus will take first, he may have stumbled against Knuckles and Frog had a hard time beating Axel, but he won’t be struggling in this match. Looking at his competition I wouldn’t be surprised if Magus goes for 40%. There is something that people are looking at in this match and that is if Magus has dropped. It won’t really be affecting Magus so much because his path is pretty much cut and clear, but if there is a drop Frog could flop next round and the Vincent (or Zero) upset over Crono will look a lot better.

The fight for second could be an intense battle. Bomberman’s four-pack had always included Kirby so this will be the first contest where Kirby isn’t present. Anyway Bomberman is considered to be a low mid-carder and back in 2004 he was able to get 35% on Squall who was only adjusted by Squall of 2k3. Phoenix Wright was only in last contest where he lost to Gordon Freeman, but next round Freeman was able to get 36% on Sora. Crash can also be considered for taking second if you ignore his anti-vote match against Master Chief, but really he only does have a small chance at coming in second.

Hardcore voters may play a role in this match and this is where Phoenix Wright may get his advantage. Sure his fans aren’t as hardcore as they were last year, but they can still pack quite a punch. Crash will benefit from this the least, like Pac-Man Crash is more of hey I know you, but what have you done for me lately. Bomberman will also suffer, but not as badly as Crash will.

So with being the weakest of the three and having no hardcore fans one might think why I think Crash has a chance. With the format anti-votes for Crash will be greatly diminished as the anti-voters have three options to vote for and with more characters to choose from anti-voting will be less prominent.

So Magus takes first and between the three characters I would take Bomberman for taking second, but Phoenix does have his hardcore fanbase and I wouldn’t be surprised if Phoenix were to sneak that one win. As much as I would like to see Crash do well I don’t think he’ll be in much of the match.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Magus > Bomberman

charmander6000’s Prediction: Magus - 40.26%, Bomberman - 22.25%, Phoenix Wright - 20.73%, Crash Bandicoot - 16.76%

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/13/2007 7:29:09 PM | message detail
I was just looking at Bomberman's past matches, and he scored the same percent on Alucard in 2k3 as he did on Squall in 2k4.

Does anybody else find that weird?

TuRtLe
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36/44 in the contest. Next pick: Magus > Bomberman
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/13/2007 7:30:30 PM | message detail
aww yeah charmander, hopping on the Zero bandwagon

TuRtLe
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36/44 in the contest. Next pick: Magus > Bomberman
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SonicRaptor | Posted 9/13/2007 7:31:08 PM | message detail
Bomberman is in the same league as Pac-Man, both are recognized as icons of classic gaming thus can put up impressive numbers if they are given certain kinds of matches. I'm not surprised that Bomberman can have a good contest here and there.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/13/2007 7:35:09 PM | message detail
I wish I had Bomberman > Phoenix, but I'll maintain hope for Mr. Wright for the sake of winning prizes.

Still...voting for el bombo.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/13/2007 7:35:29 PM | message detail
Division 3: Round 1 - Match 12 – Bomberman vs. Crash Bandicoot vs. Phoenix Wright vs. Magus

Moltar’s Analysis

Bomberman
Game/Series Known From: Bomberman
Seed in 2002: 6
Seed in 2003: 11
Seed in 2004: 13
Lost in 2002 to Jill in Round 1
Lost in 2003 to Alucard in Round 1
Lost in 2004 to Squall in Round 1

More like BOMBA-Man, mirite?

Crash
Game/Series Known From: Crash Bandicoot
Seed in 2002: 2
Seed in 2003: 10
Seed in 2004: 14
Lost in 2002 to Sephiroth in Round 2
Lost in 2003 to KOS-MOS in Round 1
Lost in 2004 to Master Chief in Round 1

Crash? Crash is back?? Wow, I guess anyone CAN get in!

Phoenix
Game/Series Known From: Phoenix Wright
Seed in 2006: 4
Lost in 2006 to Gordon Freeman in Round 1

The man who let the universe implode is back.

Magus
Game/Series Known From: Chrono Trigger
Seed in 2003: 13
Seed in 2004: 6
Seed in 2005: 3
Lost in 2003 to Link in Round 3
Lost in 2004 to Crono in Round 2
Lost in 2005 to Knuckles in Round 1

I’m surprised Magus can show his face around here again.

Even though Magus is complete and utter trash, as he proved in his match with Knuckles in 2005, he has no troubles of getting #1 here. (Yeah yeah, chill out dark matter fanboys)

However, once again, the #2 spot is up for debate! This time, all three characters legitimately stand a chance of taking 2nd.

First up is Bomberman. We haven’t seen him since 2004. He doesn’t do horribly in his matches, but I think he lacks a strong core fanbase. Next is Crash, who also hasn’t appeared since 2004. He doesn’t perform as well as Bomberman, but you have to give him some credit here. In this match, he’s probably the most casual friendly character. Still, I think he also lacks a core fanbase who will vote him over anything.

Then there is Phoenix Wright. This guy defines hardcore fanbase. Thanks to his amazingly addictive game and catchphrase, this guy has got strong Internet popularity. Of course, it didn’t help him much against Gordon Freeman last year, but the guy did have Half-Life 2 behind him.

If you didn’t know already, I have Phoenix taking this one. This is a format that will favor him greatly, as now his legions of fans can vote him over anyone, while casual support splits between Bomberman and Crash. Magus takes everything else and watches the train wreck behind him.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Magus > Phoenix > Bomberman > Crash

Moltar’s Prediction is: Magus: 39% - Phoenix: 24% - Bomberman: 21% - Crash: 16%



Ultimaterializer’s Analysis

The only part of this poll I feel is obvious is Magus winning it. Any of the other three could come in second place, though I think Crash's chances are lowest. The summer of 2004 proved how dead 3D platforming is on GameFAQs, and it's now three years later.

The fun, as always, comes down to second place between two characters. Bomberman is stronger than Phoenix Wright heads-up, but multiple option polls are a different animal. Phoenix is a *huge* cult hit on this site, and fan favorites tend to overperform in big polls due to concentrated votes having a bigger impact. I think Bomberman will pull through, but I'm rooting for Phoenix to do it.

Unfortunately, Phoenix has some things working against him. He's handheld-only, which is never good, and his style of game doesn't appeal to the casual fan. Even if you've heard of the fads, getting into a text-based detective-slash-lawyer sim adventure series is hard for some people.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/13/2007 7:35:53 PM | message detail
Bomberman, like Mega Man, is a whored out Capcom series surpassing 100 games. This isn't a good thing, but exposure is against someone as little-known as Phoenix Wright. Phoenix will have to pull another of his magnificent turnabouts to get second place, but it's not like all of us on Board 8 won't be voting for and pulling for him.

Ulti's Prediction:

Magus [45.50%]
Bomberman [22.00%]
Phoenix Wright [20.00%]
Crash Bandicoot [12.50%]



Heroic Mario’s Analysis

Magus -- 40%
Phoenix Wright -- 25%
Bomberman -- 19%
Crash Bandicoot -- 15%


Got another semi-debatable match -- but one that never made much sense to me.

For whatever reason, there were a number of folks who were getting behind Bomberman here, maybe because they got burned on picking Phoenix to win his match last year, or maybe because they’re suspect of Gordon Freeman’s strength. I can’t say I’m in either camp.

What I think sets Phoenix apart from Bomberman are his hardcore fans. I don’t think it’s in question that there are few, if any, “hardcore” Bomberman fans. The votes he’d get are either based on his recognition, I think. And while I definitely think that will help him, I’m not thinking it’s going to be enough to get him by Phoenix’s hardcore fanbase.

The Phoenix Wright series seems to grow more and more as time passes. More people hear about it through word of mouth, more people try it out and see if it’s their cup of tea (I can attest to this, having just got through playing Ace Attorney a few weeks ago). That’s not to suggest that the Phoenix Wright fanbase is some monster -- quite the contrary -- but their hardcore nature, especially in this particular fourpack, should be the deciding factor that allows Phoenix to come through on this one.

Bracket: Magus > Phoenix Wright
Vote: Phoenix Wright



Yoblazer’s Analysis

In a twist that seemed unthinkable after our first nine matches, we've had two consecutive days of relative peace and tranquility. I'm actually a bit thankful for them, as having too many shockers tends to drain you. They can't all be triple overtime classics, folks, and I think we should all be thankful that they aren't. Besides, sitting down and enjoying a peace of ordinary pie once in a while lets you appreciate the great matches that much more. Speaking of great matches, here's yet another one with some potential.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/13/2007 7:36:37 PM | message detail
Board 8ers have regularly touted this contest as one where fan favorites have a distinct advantage, and today's match feature's two of them: Chrono Trigger's Magus and the titular character from the Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney series, Phoenix Wright. While both may be loved by fans of their games, it goes without saying that Magus's game is much, much bigger, and he should win this match without too muc trouble. Phoenix doesn't have things nearly so easy, as he needs to take out two past-their-prime platform stars to move on.

You know who I'm speaking about I'm speaking about Bomberman and Crash Bandicoot. Now, Crash was kinda cool ten years ago, but times have really changed; he's weak as hell, has no recognizable fanbase to speak of, and most votes he might be fortunate enough to get will probably be stolen by the cooler and more likable Bomberman, who is the true casual draw in this match. Bomberman vs. Phoenix is an interesting battle of polar opposites: the wildly popular star of a new, cult series against the recognizable platform mascot from years gone by. In a normal match, it's no question, Bomber takes it, but this is no normal match. Personally, I believe that the better Mags does, the better Phoenix's chances look, and while Frog's near-choke job has me a bit nervous, I still think Magus can eat up enough of the votes to propel Phoenix on the shoulders of his crazy fanbase. Or he might completely suck it up. Should be fun.

Magus - 41%
Phoenix Wright - 23%
Bomberman - 22%
Crash Bandicoot - 14%



Lopen’s Analysis

Disappoint as he may have recently, Magus is still a far cry away from having trouble with any of these guys. Magus takes first, and I don't think much anyone debates otherwise, so I'll just let the black wind howl or something.

Right, right, so what about #2? Let's look at our contestants!

Bachelor number one is a guy who might've been popular, oh say... 10 years ago. He's washed up, he wishes he was a dingo, and he lets even the oft anti-voted Master Chief blow him out! Give it up for Crash Bandicoot!

The second dude? We've seen him in one match, in which he attempted to destroy our planet by letting ol' GFNW beat him. He did respectably, and by the stats he's not even fodder. But man... he lost to Gordon Freeman. Like I believe that he's not fodder! Oh, give all the objections you want to that thought, I don't care! Matches, not stats, I say! ... he goes by Phoenix Wright!

Last but not least... a champion in many countries... he's gonna rock rock till he drops, rock rock never stop it's Bomberman! Er... okay, ripping off Chris Jericho aside, Bomberman isn't a joke in these contests, believe it or not. In previous years he's held up well against suckas like Squall and has actually had blowout victories. On pure strength, I've got Bomberman taking second pretty easily.

But there is the issue of loyalty coming into play. How loyal is the Phoenix Wright fanbase? If what I've seen on Board 8 is any indication, then the answer is "pretty damn loyal." But I'm just not sure. Phoenix Wright seems to be yesterday's news... and the horrible showing by its sequel in the recent anticipated games poll only helps support that. Now, it's not as bad as Crash Bandicoot when it's not so much yesterday's news but last century's news, but .

Okay... I've pointed out Bomberman's strength, reason to doubt PW's, and made fun of Crash Bandicoot. I think I'm good to go.

Lopen's Prediction:
Magus – 39.99%
Bomberman – 26.12%
Phoenix Wright – 20.87%
Crash Bandicoot – 13.02%



Karma Hunter’s Analysis

Not too much to say about this match, since half of it is obvious and half of it is mostly motivated by fanboyism.

The obvious? Magus wins. EASILY, the rest of these jobbers don't compare.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/13/2007 7:37:01 PM | message detail
The fanboyism? Why, Phoenix over Bomberman of course! Bomberman has the edge in almost any statistical comparison you can make, and he's still mildly relevant today (at least) thanks to Bomberman Live. Meanwhile, Phoenix, the reason why we don't have GFNW anymore... has had a new game since his outing and relatively brisk sales. But... Gordon ain't linear, and Phoenix was fodder last year. The one chance Phoenix has is that he should thrive here, hopefully... and Bomberman could have fallen since 2004.

Oh, did I forget to mention Crash? Yeah, that was intentional.

Karma Hunter's Vote: PHOENIX F'ING WRIGHT ARE YOU KIDDING ME
Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Magus with 42%, Phoenix with 26%, Bomberman with 18%, Crash with 14%

Upset Probability: 70%

Aside from the whole Bomberman such-'n-such, there's Crash as well...

oh god why do I keep mentioning him MC blew him out DAMN THIS FORMAT


Transience’s Analysis

I'm really struggling with this match. Bomberman and Phoenix are polar opposites, and both of them have a reason to advance. heck, you could even make the argument for Crash if you wanted.

Magus obviously wins this fourpack. there's not really much debate there. but after seeing Frog suck it up against Axel, I find it hard to believe that Magus is going to dominate this fourpack. his competition might suck, but if Sephiroth has trouble clearing 55% in a fourpack of two Nintendo characters and a joke, I can't see Magus getting a majority of the votes here.

that means that someone's going to have to get a good percentage of the votes, and I struggle to see Phoenix being that guy. yes, he's got a core fanbase, but we all know that it isn't actually that big. if this poll had a Noble Niner in it I'd feel supremely confident in Phoenix, but it's Magus. you could even argue that Magus may take away some of Phoenix's "cult" votes, though that's really stretching it.

on the flipside, you've got Bomberman and Crash, two B-list icons that are more well-known than they are loved. normally they wouldn't get much of a chance, but when the other guys are a niche RPG character and Phoenix friggin' Wright, the "casuals" have to vote for somebody. I think these two guys will split votes somewhat, but they're drawing from a larger fanbase than Phoenix is. Bomberman's main argument is his match with Squall, where he managed to not get doubled. that result is probably more impressive than Phoenix's match with Freeman.

basically, all signs point to Bomberman winning the match. so why am I taking Phoenix? really, I'm not sure. I'm not convinced that Bomberman is worth much in this format. I'm taking the Peach Defense here -- who cares about Bomberman?? who's willing to vote him over two fan-favourites and the PS1 icon? (not that anyone cares about Crash, either.. but there's always a few oddballs out there. hello, Dp!) I guess I'm just relying on Phoenix's fan-favourite status along with Bomberman and Crash drawing nothing but apathy. plus, Phoenix kicks ass and looks awesome in his picture. sometimes you just have to pick the guy that deserves to win!

Phoenix yells, "HOLD IT!"
Bomberman gets killed by bomb
spiky hair wins out

transience's prediction - Magus - 39.41%, Phoenix - 22.34%, Bomberman - 21.56%, Crash - 16.69%



Guest’s Analysis - Kleenex

Analysis time -- here we go. This is...an interesting four-pack to say the least. We've got Magus, someone who's supposed to be getting hurt by Chrono Trigger's decline (not that I'm buying any of that, just sayin'!). We've got Bomberman, a guy who hasn't won a match since the first contest. We've got Crash Bandicoot rubbing his nipples (don't tell me it doesn't look like that at first glance). And we've got Pheonix Wright. So who comes out on top here?
Master Moltar | Posted 9/13/2007 7:38:03 PM | message detail
Magus does, obviously. That's the general concensus, and it's hard to argue it. Magus is the only character in the 4-pack who has showed considerable contest strength in the past, so it seems like a no-brainer to take him at 1st here. I know I'm certainly doing it. The real question to ask is, "Who comes in 2nd?". Well, I think we can rule out Crash right away. Why? Because Crash doesn't have a hardcore fanbase. Come to think of it...does he have any fanbase? I'm thinking no. Plus he looks like a child predator in the picture. Say no to strangers and bandicoots.

The real fight here is between Pheonix and Bomberman. Phoenix lost to Gordon Freeman, yes...but Gordon isn't the same loser he used to be. And this format does seem to favor characters with hardcore fanbases just like Phoenix. Bomberman is a classic gaming icon in his own right, however. Certainly not up there with Mario, Link or Pac-Man, but I think a good majority of gamers would be able to recognize the B-Man if you shoved a picture in their face. Thing is...Bomberman hasn't really had any significant releases since what...Bomberman 64? Sure, there's the XBL version, but I think (and don't quote me on this), it's sold even less copies than Justice For All. The original Phoenix Wright has sold over 100k copies, and has two sequels as well as slight internet fad status. I think it'll be close, but give me Phoenix here.


Crash is washed up, won't win without luck.
Magus is a shoe-in for first in this muck.
Bomberman eats his pom-pom hat,
Phoenix goes and shouts TAKE THAT,
Limericks are for men and Haikus suck.

Kleenex's Prediction - Magus (36.45%) > Phoenix Wright (23.97%) > Bomberman (23.81%) > Crash Bandicoot (15.77%)



Crew Consensus: Magus > Bomberman may be a good pick, but most of us are banking on Phoenix's rabid fanbase to get him through.
swirIdude | Posted 9/13/2007 7:48:37 PM | message detail
I wish I had Bomberman > Phoenix, but I'll maintain hope for Mr. Wright for the sake of winning prizes.

Still...voting for el bombo.


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Cecil XIX | Posted 9/13/2007 7:49:11 PM | message detail
I just realized no one's posted this image: http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7910/wandervslinktm8.png
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/13/2007 7:49:20 PM | message detail
Round 1- Division 3 Group D

Characters Involved:

Bomberman


Summer 2002 Contest
South Division - 6 Seed

Southern Round 1 --- Defeated (11) Kane, 40943 [78.11%] - 11476 [21.89%]
Southern Quarterfinal --- Lost to (3) Jill Valentine, 27432 [42.03%] - 37828 [57.97%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 23rd Place [23.01%]

Summer 2003 Contest
South Division - 11 Seed

Southern Round 1 --- Lost to (6) Alucard, 36033 [35.54%] - 65351 [64.46%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 42nd Place [19.59%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Midgar Division - 13 Seed

Midgar Round 1 --- Lost to (4)Squall, 28597 [35.25%] - 52540 [64.75%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 35th Place [20.85%]


Bomberman has never been a contest powerhouse but he's always performed respectively in his matches. He's also fresh off of Bomberman Live on the X-Box Live Arcade, and Wii Virtual Console releases. He has a great chance to advance here.

Crash Bandicoot

Summer 2002 Contest
West Division - 2 Seed

Western Round 1 --- Defeated (15) Ulala, 36305 [63.23%] - 21111 [36.77%]
Western Quarterfinal --- Lost to (7) Sephiroth, 12235 [18.48%] - 53956 [81.52%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 36th Place [16.03%]

Summer 2003 Contest
North Division - 10 Seed

Northern Round 1 --- Lost to (7) KOS-MOS, 37510 [38.02%] - 61141 [61.98%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 50th Place [16.89%]

Summer 2004 Contest
20XX Division - 14 Seed

20XX Round 1 --- Lost to (3) Master Chief, 22552 [29.28%] - 54469 [70.72%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 47th Place [17.54%]


Crash hasn't been relevant since the 90's, and his games haven't aged well enough to give him lasting power in these contests. He shouldn't be a threat, since I'd peg him to be even lower this year than he has been in past years.

Phoenix Wright

Summer 2006 Contest
Destiny Division - 4 Seed

Destiny Round 1 --- Lost to (5) Gordon Freeman, 46204 [41.80%] - 64324 [58.20%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 44th Place [23.10%]


Ah yes, the character that inadvertantly caused the universe to implode, then explode again. Most people consider Gordon to be the uberfodder he was back in the earlier contests, but he's actually proven himself to be a relatively decent midcarder since 2005. Still, Phoenix is likely overrated a bit by Sora/Mega Man fishiness, and possible Gordon Freeman non-linearity. However, Phoenix also has reason to be stronger this year with the re-print of his original game as well as the release of his first sequel. The other contender for second place.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/13/2007 7:49:34 PM | message detail
Magus

Summer 2003 Contest
North Division - 13 Seed

Northern Round 1 --- Defeated (4) Sam Fisher, 60598 [66.25%] - 30866 [33.75%]
Northern Quarterfinal --- Defeated (12) Ganondorf, 55179 [50.30%] - 54529 [49.70%]
Northern Semifinal --- Lost to (1) Link, 38747 [34.93%] - 72188 [65.07%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 9th Place [33.80%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Hyrule Division - 6 Seed

Hyrule Round 1 --- Defeated (11) Luca Blight, 57128 [81.04%] - 13367 [18.96%]
Hyrule Quarterfinal --- Lost to (3) Crono, 23539 [30.22%] - 54361 [69.78%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 9th Place [32.57%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Devil Division - 3 Seed

Devil Round 1 --- Lost to (6) Knuckles, 50153 [49.14%] - 51909 [50.86%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 20th Place [29.26%]


Magus Magus Magus.... if anything was a sign of Chrono Trigger's slow decline, it's him. Magus made his contest debut in the Year of Square and turned heads by beating Ganondorf before putting impressive numbers on Link. He followed that by getting his ass SFF'd by Crono in 2k4. Then in 2k5, he was a favourite to win his division when the biggest upset in contest history (to Board 8 anyways) happened. He lost to Knuckles, thus signifying the end of the cultish dominance of CT (which culminated in Crono losing to Mario and then Sonic last year). Nonetheless, Magus should have no trouble with this fourpack.

Predictions:

Many people are taking Magus to break 45% here, but I doubt it. I say he's lucky to break 40%, especially after Frog's performance earlier this round. That leaves about 60% for the other 3. Crash shouldn't do much here. I'd say no more than 15%, which leaves Phoenix and Bomberman to duke it out for the other 45%. It should be relatively close, but Bomberman should get the lion's share of that slice. If this contest has taught us anything, it's that recognizability can play a key role given the high votals and casual/young demographic of the average voters. And Bomberman is damn near iconic. His early games were great, but he really shined on the N64, and is likely to benefit from Bomberman Live.

TuRtLe's Prediction: Magus 38%, Bomberman 25%, Phoenix 22%, Crash 15%
TuRtLe's Bracket: Magus > Bomberman
TuRtLe's Vote: Bomberman

TuRtLe
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36/44 in the contest. Next pick: Magus > Bomberman
BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism
heroic tranny | Posted 9/13/2007 7:50:00 PM | message detail
how can you prefer Bomberman yet pick Phoenix? I thought all the Phoenix picks were just crazy fanboys.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/13/2007 7:52:09 PM | message detail
Uhh, Ulti, Bomberman isn't from Capcom.

TuRtLe
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36/44 in the contest. Next pick: Magus > Bomberman
BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism
MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/13/2007 7:53:29 PM | message detail
I think he knows that. he used Capcom's way of doing Mega Man.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/13/2007 7:54:29 PM | message detail
Aww yeah Lopen, hopping on the overrated turd bashing wagon

TuRtLe
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36/44 in the contest. Next pick: Magus > Bomberman
BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism
BDawg | Posted 9/13/2007 7:57:24 PM | message detail
I've bombed out each debatable match since Marcus>Kefka, I would assume Bomberman will get doubled by Phoenix and lose several updates with Crash. But at least this match doesn't have METAL GEAR.
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BDawg | Posted 9/13/2007 7:58:12 PM | message detail
Oh yeah, and that Kane guy that Bomberman beat, that was the guy in a TV, right. Real promising.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/13/2007 8:00:08 PM | message detail
BOLTALICIZED ASSERTION

If 2k5's votals were as low as 2k4's, Magus would have won his division, and Crono would have won the tournament. Frog would have also broken 40% on Smaus

TuRtLe
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36/44 in the contest. Next pick: Magus > Bomberman
BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism
HaRRicH | Posted 9/13/2007 8:17:46 PM | message detail
how can you prefer Bomberman yet pick Phoenix? I thought all the Phoenix picks were just crazy fanboys.

Between another game coming out for him, increased sales of his first game, thinking Magus would get a high percentage, and Bomberman sharing casual votes with Crash, by the time I decided I'd make no ore changes it looked like Phoenix was a real good upset.

Still may be, but man, I wish I took Bomberman instead. Had some bad logic on my side...some good too, sure, but not enough.
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heroic tranny | Posted 9/13/2007 8:19:01 PM | message detail
yeah, having seen Frog and favourites flopping in percentage, I have low hope for Phoenix.

but I keep faith! I trust in the voters to not suck!
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/13/2007 8:20:28 PM | message detail
god i suck

stay away ec
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Big Bob | Posted 9/13/2007 8:23:12 PM | message detail
Bomberman, like Mega Man, is a whored out Capcom series surpassing 100 games

He was comparing Bomberman to Mega Man, but it still implies that he's from Capcom.

And Bomberman only has 60 games, not 100.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/13/2007 8:26:47 PM | message detail
bomberman is still fresh oh yeah
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/13/2007 8:32:01 PM | message detail
Using lol x-stats to predict this match we get (using their last year)

Magus - 33.86%
Bomberman - 23.71%
Phoenix - 22.47%
Crash - 19.95%

Also for kicks here is the last match that had all four characters that were in the contest before.

Samus - 42.49%
Frog - 23.14%
Axel - 21.46%
Kerrigan - 12.91%
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Match 11: Mario > Pac-Man Points: 32/40
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/13/2007 8:35:26 PM | message detail
So every day has some surprise, I'm seeing either Magus bombing or Crash impressing as being our surprise for tomorrow.

TuRtLe
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36/44 in the contest. Next pick: Magus > Bomberman
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EpicBigKevinm84 | Posted 9/13/2007 8:38:59 PM | message detail
What is Magus' strength nowadays? He should win, but by around how much percentage?

Also, vote Phoenix!
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/13/2007 8:42:05 PM | message detail
Is that Bomberman value behind Cloud/Squall?
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 9/13/2007 8:42:37 PM | message detail
I think this may be the first and last Magus match where I do not vote for Magus.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/13/2007 8:45:07 PM | message detail
You voted for him in Magus/Knux? SHAME SHAME SHAME ON YOU
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Big Boss/Mario/Pac-Man/Wander - Bracket: Mario > BB - Vote: BB (34/40)
Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 9/13/2007 8:45:52 PM | message detail
Those x-stats are definitely going to be off. With Magus behind AC Vincent and Crash behind Frog/Snake.
charmander6000 | Posted 9/13/2007 8:49:18 PM | message detail
Is that Bomberman value behind Cloud/Squall?

SFF adjusted Squall, so basically 2k3 Squall.
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Match 11: Mario > Pac-Man Points: 32/40
swirIdude | Posted 9/13/2007 8:53:07 PM | message detail
I have to say Magus/Knux was the greatest match ever because it's the only time people made topics regarding me and my Knuckles love!
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*votes for Meta-Knight to help CATS win* ~Leonhart
heroic tranny | Posted 9/13/2007 8:57:00 PM | message detail
Big Boss with... 36%!
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RPGuy96 | Posted 9/13/2007 8:57:40 PM | message detail
Big Boss a bigger upset than the Meta-Knight?
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JustForFun1988 | Posted 9/13/2007 8:58:11 PM | message detail
Get ready for your F5 button, guys.
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heroic tranny | Posted 9/13/2007 8:58:18 PM | message detail
KOS was bigger than Meta-Knight.
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swirIdude | Posted 9/13/2007 8:58:36 PM | message detail
HE IS ALWAYS WRIGHT!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/13/2007 8:59:22 PM | message detail
As for Magus' strength, personally I think he's dropped even more since 2k5. These increasing votals are terrible for CT characters (Frog went from 50/50 with Solid **** to barely getting 30% on Samus, Magus from beating Ganondorf to losing to Knuckles, and Crono from being the strongest non-Clinkeroth to being the bottom of the Noble Nine with Sonic and Mega Man). Actually, my crazy upset aside, things are looking mighty good for the Vincent > Crono people.

TuRtLe
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36/44 in the contest. Next pick: Magus > Bomberman
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/13/2007 9:00:16 PM | message detail
Bomberman 29.41%

5
Crash Bandicoot 11.76%

2
Phoenix Wright 47.06%

8
Magus 11.76%

2
TOTAL VOTES 17

phoenixxxxxxxxxxxx
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Bomberman/Crash/Phoenix/Magus - Bracket: Magus > Phoenix - Vote: Phoenix (38/44)
Gaddswell | Posted 9/13/2007 9:00:21 PM | message detail
Bomberman 22.73% 5
Crash Bandicoot 18.18% 4
Phoenix Wright 50% 11
Magus 9.09% 2
TOTAL VOTES 22
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Finally a damn bracket!
MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/13/2007 9:00:23 PM | message detail
Bomberman 20%

12
Crash Bandicoot 8.33%

5
Phoenix Wright 56.67%

34
Magus 15%

9
TOTAL VOTES 60

Phoenix FTW.
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Tediz247 | Posted 9/13/2007 9:00:27 PM | message detail
Bomberman 22.64%

12
Crash Bandicoot 9.43%

5
Phoenix Wright 52.83%

28
Magus 15.09%

8
TOTAL VOTES 53

lol magus
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/13/2007 9:00:31 PM | message detail
Bomberman 20.96%

35
Crash Bandicoot 13.77%

23
Phoenix Wright 48.5%

81
Magus 16.77%

28
TOTAL VOTES 167

lol board vote

TuRtLe
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36/44 in the contest. Next pick: Magus > Bomberman
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Shadowhiei899 | Posted 9/13/2007 9:00:37 PM | message detail
Bomberman 25.64% 10
Crash Bandicoot 10.26% 4
Phoenix Wright 51.28% 20
Magus 12.82% 5
TOTAL VOTES 39
Just Some Person | Posted 9/13/2007 9:00:43 PM | message detail
Bomberman 21.79% 34
Crash Bandicoot 14.74% 23
Phoenix Wright 46.15% 72
Magus 17.31% 27
TOTAL VOTES 156

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Food.
Janus5000 | Posted 9/13/2007 9:00:44 PM | message detail
Bomberman 21.39%

37
Crash Bandicoot 13.29%

23
Phoenix Wright 47.4%

82
Magus 17.92%

31
TOTAL VOTES 173

what the hell guys
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