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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 477

redrocket | Posted 9/12/2007 8:32:44 PM | message detail
I agree Pac is going to get SFF'd, but I've got him taking second anyway, cause I think Big Boss is just that much of a jobber.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/12/2007 8:33:19 PM | message detail
Round 1- Division 3 Group C

Characters Involved:

Big Boss


Summer 2005 Contest
Zebes Division - 7 Seed

Zebes Round 1 --- Lost to (2) Auron, 27000 [28.53%] - 67639 [71.47%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 56th Place [16.15%]


Big Boss returns to the field thanks to the extended bracket. One of the contenders for second place today.

Mario

Summer 2002 Contest
North Division - 1 Seed

Northern Round 1 --- Defeated (16) Servbot, 39436 [74.11%] - 13777 [25.89%]
Northern Quarterfinal --- Defeated (9) Morrigan Aensland, 44448 [66.81%] - 22084 [33.19%]
Northern Semifinal --- Defeated (4) Donkey Kong, 52333 [81.98%] - 11507 [18.02%]
Northern Final --- Defeated (2) Cloud, 64990 [50.11%] - 64713 [49.89%]
Final Four --- Defeated (5) Crono, 53831 [50.05%] - 53716 [49.95%]
Finals --- Lost to (2) Link, 36796 [37.47%] - 61415 [62.53%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 6th Place [37.47%]

Summer 2003 Contest
South Division - 1 Seed

Southern Round 1 --- Defeated (16) Captain Olimar, 89189 [88.42%] - 11678 [11.58%]
Southern Quarterfinal --- Defeated (9) Shadow the Hedgehog, 59756 [55.10%] - 48694 [44.90%]
Southern Semifinal --- Defeated (4) Crono, 66571 [50.05%] - 66434 [49.95%]
Southern Final --- Lost to (2) Sephiroth, 47458 [38.40%] - 76129 [61.60%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 5th Place [36.95%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Hyrule Division - 2 Seed

Hyrule Round 1 --- Defeated (15) JC Denton, 65184 [83.54%] - 12847 [16.46%]
Hyrule Quarterfinal --- Defeated (7) Bowser, 56098 [70.65%] - 23302 [29.35%]
Hyrule Semifinal --- Lost to (3) Crono, 45165 [46.76%] - 51430 [53.24%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 7th Place [34.77%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Mushroom Division - 1 Seed

Mushroom Round 1 --- Defeated (8) Joanna Dark, 80185 [80.89%] - 18941 [19.11%]
Mushroom Semifinal --- Defeated (4) Ness, 75566 [82.80%] - 15696 [17.20%]
Mushroom Final --- Defeated (3) Zero, 67452 [62.86%] - 39856 [37.14%]
Elite Eight --- Defeated (1) Samus, 58304 [59.79%] - 39215 [40.21%]
Final Four --- Defeated (1) Solid Snake, 59463 [57.21%] - 44483 [42.79%]
Finals --- Defeated (2) Crono, 55739 [53.85%] - 47762 [46.15%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Tournament of Champions - 4 Seed

Tournament of Champions Semifinal --- Lost to (3) Sephiroth, 50598 [43.93%] - 64570 [56.07%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 4th Place [39.59%]

Summer 2006 Contest
Battle Royale.

Battle Royale Day 1 --- Outlasted Samus, 18473 [11.59%] - 12335 [7.74%]
Battle Royale Day 2 --- Lost to Solid Snake, 15878 [11.18%] - 20954 [14.76%]
Extrapolated Strength --- N/A


Mario makes his triumphant return to the main bracket along with Clinkeroth, and is ready to show us why he was removed in the first place. Aside from Link, Mario has probably the weakest fourpack out of all the Noble Niners, so he should look mighty impressive here.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/12/2007 8:33:59 PM | message detail
Pac-Man

Summer 2002 Contest
South Division - 1 Seed

Southern Round 1 --- Defeated (16) Goemon, 41150 [72.21%] - 15839 [27.79%]
Southern Quarterfinal --- Defeated (9) Kyo Kusanagi, 32607 [62.84%] - 19282 [37.16%]
Southern Semifinal --- Lost to (5) Scorpion, 28936 [42.26%] - 39539 [57.74%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 29th Place [20.3%]

Summer 2003 Contest
South Division - 5 Seed

Southern Round 1 --- Lost to (12) Kefka, 45905 [49.05%] - 47678 [50.95%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 54th Place [15.27%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Hyrule Division - 13 Seed

Hyrule Round 1 --- Lost to (4) Luigi, 24299 [32.27%] - 51008 [67.73%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 51st Place [14.82%]

Summer 2005 Contest
20XX Division - 7 Seed

20XX Round 1 --- Defeated (2) Revolver Ocelot, 46343 [51.25%] - 44075 [48.75%]
20XX Semifinal --- Lost to (3) Yoshi, 22893 [27.17%] - 61377 [72.83%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 42nd Place [20.42%]


Poor Pac-Man. The father of video games, an icon of arcade gaming and probably the most recognizable character ever, and he can't seem to do a thing in these contests.

Wander

The main character from Shadow of the Colossus makes his contest debut, and is guarenteed to get the stuffing kicked out of him. SotC is a relatively cult game as is, throw in the fact that they never even say Wander's name in the game, coupled with a match pic lacking his horse Agro, Wander might have a shot at being the weakest non-joke entrant in the field.

Predictions:

At first glance, you would think Pac-Man has second place in the bag. He beat Revolver Ocelot in 2k5, and Big Boss is likely a good bit weaker than Ocelot. But what you have to take into account, is the fact that Pac-Man seems to fall apart completely when placed against iconic characters. Look at his matches with Luigi and Yoshi where he got the stuffing kicked out of him. Pac-Man's strength comes from his recognizability. It is how he beat Ocelot. But in this match, he's up against the second most recognizable video game icon, and one that's a great deal stronger than him.

At first I thought Pac would be able to squeak by, but after seeing Ocelot beat out Jill, I have to wonder if MGS side characters have had a boost since 2005. Certainly Snake appearing in Smash has generated at least some interest in his series, and that couldn't possibly hurt the MGS side characters. As for percentages, Cloud broke 60% on a likely stronger 4-pack, so Mario should be in that ballpark. Wander will be under 10% more than likely, leaving Pac and Big Boss to fight over the remaining 30%.

TuRtLe's Prediction: Mario 59%, Pac-Man 15%, Big Boss 16%, Wander 10%
TuRtLe's Bracket: Mario > Pac-Man
TuRtLe's Vote: Pac-Man (yeah, I have to vote with my bracket here)

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30/36 in the contest. Next pick: Fox > Wario
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/12/2007 8:49:56 PM | message detail
So, what's the consensus on Wario? Is he a night vote kind of guy?
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 9/12/2007 8:51:04 PM | message detail
Only if you're comparing him with other Nintendo characters.

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creativename | Posted 9/12/2007 8:55:49 PM | message detail
There was a Mewtwo vs. Fox discussion earlier here, and I was stunned to see people pick Fox.

Fox isdominating here, but let's not get carried away. I would pick Mewtwo over Fox without thinking twice.

Fox is benefitting from SFF here, whereas Mewtwo got hurt by it. He's a lot closer to Ryu than that match implied. I'd say he's somewhat close to Yoshi level. After all, he did only less than 4 points worse than Bowser; Bowser was hurt worse by Toad, but it's not like Mewtwo would be way below Bowser in strength. I think people aren't understanding how impressive Mewtwo's performance there was because of how SFF affected the % proportions.
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dot dot dor | Posted 9/12/2007 8:56:51 PM | message detail
maybe I'm nuts, but I think a lot of people would pick Yoshi over Ryu.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/12/2007 8:58:39 PM | message detail
Who cares about Mewtwo or Fox or anyone else.

IT'S BIG BOSS TIME!
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Big Boss/Mario/Pac-Man/Wander - Bracket: Mario > BB - Vote: BB (34/40)
dot dot dor | Posted 9/12/2007 8:59:12 PM | message detail
time for Pac-Man to own MGS a second straight time.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/12/2007 8:59:41 PM | message detail
Big Boss would get 85% on Mewtwo and Fox IMHO
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/12/2007 9:00:15 PM | message detail
Big Boss 5.56%

1
Mario 55.56%

10
Pac-Man 22.22%

4
Wander 16.67%

3
TOTAL VOTES 18

first vote for bb!
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Big Boss/Mario/Pac-Man/Wander - Bracket: Mario > BB - Vote: BB (34/40)
Xcarvengery | Posted 9/12/2007 9:00:27 PM | message detail
Big Boss 0% 0
Mario 50% 7
Pac-Man 28.57% 4
Wander 21.43% 3
TOTAL VOTES 14

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Gaddswell | Posted 9/12/2007 9:00:27 PM | message detail
Big Boss 25.25% 25
Mario 33.33% 33
Pac-Man 26.26% 26
Wander 15.15% 15
TOTAL VOTES 99
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Janus5000 | Posted 9/12/2007 9:00:29 PM | message detail
Big Boss 24.47%

23
Mario 32.98%

31
Pac-Man 26.6%

25
Wander 15.96%

15
TOTAL VOTES 94

wtf Wander getting votes
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Tediz247 | Posted 9/12/2007 9:00:38 PM | message detail
Big Boss 23.72%

37
Mario 41.67%

65
Pac-Man 23.08%

36
Wander 11.54%

18
TOTAL VOTES 156
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swirIdude | Posted 9/12/2007 9:00:43 PM | message detail
maybe I'm nuts, but I think a lot of people would pick Yoshi over Ryu.

I would never take that.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/12/2007 9:01:08 PM | message detail
GO BB GO

I'd expect the board vote between these two to be split quite evenly, if the Guru is any indication... for what that's worth, anyway.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/12/2007 9:01:08 PM | message detail
And Pac is already dropping like a rock.

gg bracket

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MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/12/2007 9:01:11 PM | message detail
Pac-Man's already getting owned.
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Keno316 | Posted 9/12/2007 9:01:43 PM | message detail
I'm loving how my picking MGS so far is paying off!
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/12/2007 9:02:23 PM | message detail
augh Liquid, Ness better not mess that up!
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Big Boss/Mario/Pac-Man/Wander - Bracket: Mario > BB - Vote: BB (34/40)
8976201 | Posted 9/12/2007 9:02:43 PM | message detail
lol Mario can't get over 50%
dot dot dor | Posted 9/12/2007 9:03:20 PM | message detail
wow.. I'm pleasantly surprised here.

darn you karma hunter
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RPGuy96 | Posted 9/12/2007 9:03:28 PM | message detail
Bleh, this isn't the bracket vote like Ocelot had. Poor Pac-Man.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/12/2007 9:03:56 PM | message detail
I can't ****ing believe this. I'm still not on the ****ing leaderboard.

God ****ing damn it, I'll never get up there

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30/36 in the contest. Next pick: Fox > Wario
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/12/2007 9:04:02 PM | message detail
Big Boss 24.59% 317
Mario 50.04% 645
Pac-Man 15.9% 205
Wander 9.46% 122
TOTAL VOTES 1289

Finally got 50%...
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/12/2007 9:04:33 PM | message detail
aww yeah

Who feels good about having Liquid 1st in his fourpack? CAUSE I DO !!
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RockMFR 5 | Posted 9/12/2007 9:04:57 PM | message detail
Big Boss > Magus possible!!
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MMXcalibur | Posted 9/12/2007 9:05:18 PM | message detail
I'm suprised Pac-Man isn't doing well...
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swirIdude | Posted 9/12/2007 9:05:25 PM | message detail
Oh god I forget all about Liquid.

Better hope for Alucard > Ness to keep my bracket going, but Ocelot and BB have had the mojo on their side...
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/12/2007 9:05:28 PM | message detail
Freeze:

Big Boss 24.43% 394
Mario 50.22% 810
Pac-Man 16.18% 261
Wander 9.18% 148
TOTAL VOTES 1613
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/12/2007 9:05:33 PM | message detail
You feel good because worthless fodder from MGS is taking advantage of a kryptonite'd Pac-Man like everybody here expected?

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30/36 in the contest. Next pick: Fox > Wario
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/12/2007 9:05:48 PM | message detail
Down 133
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Match 10: Fox McCloud > Banjo Points: 30/36
JustForFun1988 | Posted 9/12/2007 9:06:06 PM | message detail
MGS characters are looking like a beast in this format.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/12/2007 9:06:08 PM | message detail
BOLD 5 MINUTE CALL Mario > Sephiroth, Big Boss > Seprioth, this match makes us all happy people
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Big Boss/Mario/Pac-Man/Wander - Bracket: Mario > BB - Vote: BB (34/40)
Karma Hunter | Posted 9/12/2007 9:06:21 PM | message detail
You feel good because worthless fodder from MGS is taking advantage of a kryptonite'd Pac-Man like everybody here expected?

Check the guru there, champ - OH MAN WHOSE BRACKET DO I SEE THERE
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/12/2007 9:07:01 PM | message detail
This really means nothing for Liquid. Ness is the only Nintendo character there, he should have it.
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ZFS | Posted 9/12/2007 9:07:36 PM | message detail
The Liquid hype is going to be up after this one -- but Ness has this thing!

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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/12/2007 9:07:47 PM | message detail
This really means nothing for Liquid. Ness is the only Nintendo character there, he should have it.

Midna
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/12/2007 9:08:18 PM | message detail
You feel good because worthless fodder from MGS is taking advantage of a kryptonite'd Pac-Man like everybody here expected?

wait, you suicided your own bracket?
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Today: Fox > Wario - Vote: Fox
Tomorrow: Mario > Big Boss - Vote: Mario - Points: 28/34
swirIdude | Posted 9/12/2007 9:08:40 PM | message detail
Unlike Midna, Ness has proven not to be a turd.

He also hasn't proven to be extremely strong, but nevertheless, he can stop Liquid.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/12/2007 9:08:40 PM | message detail
I thought I changed mine to Big Boss. I must have forgot to click submit =(

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Master Moltar | Posted 9/12/2007 9:09:42 PM | message detail
Midna

We do not speak of this name in this topic anymore!
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Big Boss/Mario/Pac-Man/Wander - Bracket: Mario > BB - Vote: BB (34/40)
dot dot dor | Posted 9/12/2007 9:10:24 PM | message detail
...wow.

well, I was totally wrong here, despite getting four points!

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/12/2007 9:10:34 PM | message detail
Holy ****

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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/12/2007 9:10:44 PM | message detail
I have zero confidence in Ness in this format. He may be Nintendo, but that means nothing when it comes to being a favorite of people's in a such a varied fourpack (Square/CV/MGS/Nintendo). The hardcore fans of Ness are mostly in the Earthbound crowd, and I don't feel threatened by them.

But I suppose we can simply sit back and wait for the match !!!
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Tediz247 | Posted 9/12/2007 9:10:51 PM | message detail
Whoa crap, this is ugly. Poor Pac-Man, he's not even putting up a fight.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/12/2007 9:10:59 PM | message detail
Holy **** at that drop.
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ZFS | Posted 9/12/2007 9:11:01 PM | message detail
The Pac is dead; Big Boss falls below 15% next. Believe.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 9/12/2007 9:11:01 PM | message detail
poor Midna :/

Also, Wander looking pathetic here. Awesome.
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