GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 476
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/11/2007 6:01:50 PM | message detail |
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I'd love to see Fox > Banjo, but I predict it'll be a heated battle between him and CF for last. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 9/11/2007 6:07:44 PM | message detail |
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I think I'm gonna take CF for last. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| THEVinceYoung | Posted 9/11/2007 6:13:03 PM | message detail |
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We've yet to have a match where something
unexpected didn't happen. I personally think Falcon gets last place by
a long shot. He doesn't have ANYTHING going for him tomorrow. Banjo at
least has the most independent fanbase. Honestly, depending on how the
SFF splits, he MIGHT contend for third place. Remember, Wario's no
powerhouse here. He's probably stronger than before, but he's still the
guy who nearly got doubled by Shadow, who stunk it up a couple of days
earlier. ...Still take Wario > Peach though! --- What now, Merril Hoge? |
| THEVinceYoung | Posted 9/11/2007 6:14:05 PM | message detail |
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Uhhh...I meant Banjo MIGHT contend for SECOND place, not third... --- What now, Merril Hoge? |
| Keno316 | Posted 9/11/2007 6:20:12 PM | message detail |
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I've been out all day. What's Ulty's reaction been to all this so far? --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB *Claims KG's Eclair, C.C. & Tear Grants* |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 9/11/2007 6:27:09 PM | message detail |
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Haven't heard anything from him. --- "I'm no hero...Never was. I'm just an old killer...hired to do some wet work." |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/11/2007 6:30:05 PM | message detail |
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He doesn't have ANYTHING going for him tomorrow. Except being the best character in the poll. >_< --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/11/2007 6:31:50 PM | message detail |
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Oooooh, did I LOSE? Jill has been avenged. --- ~*~ExThaNemesis~*~ I do a lot of pushups and situps, and I drink plenty of juice. This bold part is here until the New York Yankees are in first place in the AL East again. 7/2/07 |
| charmander6000 | Posted 9/11/2007 7:24:48 PM | message detail |
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Match X: Banjo vs Captain Falcon vs Fox vs Wario Information Name: Banjo Game/Series From: Banjo Kazooie Past Contests: None Wins: N/A Losses: N/A Name: Captain Falcon Game/Series From: F-Zero series Past Contests: CB2k6 Wins: None Losses: Crono (2k6) Name: Fox McCloud Game/Series From: Star Fox series Past Contests: CB2k2, CB2k3 Wins: Pikachu (2k3) Losses: Cloud (2k2), Link (2k3) Name: Wario Game/Series From: Mario series Past Contests: CB2k3 Wins: None Losses: Shadow (2k3) Analysis Well this is an interesting match, we have four Nintendo characters, sure Banjo is technically not a Nintendo character, but he is so close to one that he may as well be one (like Mega Man or Pac-Man). Two of them have appeared in the SSB series and Wario is set to appear in the new one. Stats won’t matter in this match there will just be too much SFF, this is about who has the most hardcore fanbase. Fox is the favorite to take this match, not only is he loved by his fans but he is the strongest out of the four (I know I just said strength doesn’t matter). The board has been rallying for Fox since 2005 and it took until 2007 and 128 bracket to get him in. Since his last appearance in 2003 Fox has had new games in both the Gamecube and the DS and has been announced to appear in the new SSB game. Wario is the favorite at taking second, we haven’t seen him since 2003 but he is a Mario character. His ranking in 2003 is a bit false because of the over performance that Shadow did against Mario, using 2004 Shadow Wario now ranks just a tad below Captain Falcon. Before saying that your bracket is screwed remember that since 2003 Wario has had various Wario Ware games released, too bad his picture reflects his Mario character days and has been announced for SSBB, not like it will do anything because any SSB support will probably go to either Fox or Falcon. Fans are more likely to vote for characters that are in the series than characters that have been announced. Wario also has the problem of not having many hardcore fans, like Peach who is losing right now they both did terrible in the favorite Mario polls. This could cause Wario some problems if SFF doesn’t go his way. Captain Falcon while having his own series is really only known for being in the SSB series. This could be bad for him as the average gamer would probably find Fox as an easier and better character to play with than Falcon. I speak of this from my playing with friends and family. Fox always seems to be one of the top choices as is Falcon, but with his B moving being totally useless it is easier to fight against a Falcon user than a Fox user. Finally we have Banjo who is also my upset pick of this match. Why did I pick Banjo, well he is one favorite character, but even I know that his chances of winning are slim. I believe that he is as strong as Conker, which still puts him last in this match. Conker is also a character made by Rare and can be considered to be a Nintendo character and outside of Diddy Kong Racing he only had one game released on the N64 like Banjo. Conker was also able to avoid SFF with his match against Yoshi, but unlike Banjo Conker’s game was rated M and attracted a different audience than regular Nintendo and Rare characters would. I do believe that Banjo will be SFF the least, while he may be considered a Nintendo character he has the least amount in common with the other characters in this match, but will it be enough for him to steal second? |
| charmander6000 | Posted 9/11/2007 7:25:17 PM | message detail |
| Fox takes first; I believe that he has the biggest
hardcore fanbase in this match. I also think Falcon takes last, SSB is
all he has to work with unlike the other characters and because of it
he will feel the pain. For the first (and not last) time in this
contest I’m going against my bracket and Wario takes second, but Banjo
will impress. What's with me breaking the posting limit? charmander6000’s Bracket: Fox McCloud > Banjo charmander6000’s Prediction: Fox - 40.73%, Wario - 21.87%, Banjo - 21.43%, Captain Falcon - 15.97% --- The Board 8 BOP - http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB6%20BOP.xls Match 9: Sephiroth > Peach Points: 28/32 |
| cyko | Posted 9/11/2007 7:29:45 PM | message detail |
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well, hey - if nothing else, at least today's match result should give
further evidence of the percent of people who didn't pay attention to
the rules. any bracket who has Sephiroth in second place has to either
be a joke bracket, favorites bracket, or not paying attention bracket. i predict that around 39% will have Sephiroth in second place and 58% will have him in first place! --- I support the following SC2K6 characters: L-Block, Phoenix Wright, Magus, Agent J, Vincent Valentine, Miles Edgeworth, HK-47, Zero, Kefka |
| bloodhawks return | Posted 9/11/2007 7:32:20 PM | message detail |
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You really think Banjo is = to conker? I thought he was a great deal more popular. *shrug* --- Come visit my board, Hektik, In the C-64 today! Not changing this until Casey Mears wins his 2nd Nascar Cup race. Started 7/7/07 |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/11/2007 7:32:52 PM | message detail |
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Division 3: Round 1 - Match 10 – Banjo vs. Captain Falcon vs. Fox McCloud vs. Wario Moltar’s Analysis Banjo Game/Series Known From: Banjo-Kazooie Awesome game, but I doubt he’s worth much. Falcon Game/Series Known From: F-Zero Seed in 2006: 8 Lost in 2006 to Crono in Round 1 PAWWWNNNCCCHHHH Fox Game/Series Known From: Star Fox Seed in 2002: 15 Seed in 2003: 9 Lost in 2002 to Cloud in Round 1 Lost in 2003 to Link in Round 2 Now equipped with his dinosaur-beating staff. Wario Game/Series Known From: Wario Ware Seed in 2003: 8 Lost in 2003 to Shadow in Round 1 Mario’s nemesis turned microgame star is back. This match is a Nintendo fan’s wet dream and also worst nightmare at the same time. I mean, look at this! Just trying to predict who has the SFF advantage in like choosing your favorite toothpick between four identical toothpicks. Plus, these aren’t even 4 top Nintendo competitors! This is a match to decide the cream of the Nintendo midcard! Someone, please, just end it all now! Okay, really. Fox should be the strongest of these characters. We don’t have good data on him, but all signs are just pointing to it. For second, I’m going Wario. Again, the data on him isn’t to reliable, but it just feels right. Falcon should do decently, and Banjo is looking to be a clear fourth. Seriously, this match is annoying. Anyone who claims to know exactly how the SFF goes in this match is crazy. The general consensus is going Fox > Wario, and I’m going to agree. Capt. Falcon could make it interesting though, so keep an eye on him. Moltar’s Bracket Says: Fox > Wario > Falcon > Banjo Moltar’s Prediction is: Fox: 38% - Wario: 31% - Falcon: 19% - Banjo: 12% Ultimaterializer’s Analysis As popular as Banjo is among his fans, the Summer 2004 Contest proved that 3D platformer characters are well beyond phased out on GameFAQs. In a poll with four characters vying for the Nintendo vote, I think it's safe to assume he comes in last place. This brings us to the other three characters. Captain Falcon might have a few fans from the F-Zero series, but in reality he's a Super Smash Brothers avatar. Nearly all of his popularity comes from that series. Fox is very popular due to Smash, but also has his own Star Fox series to fall back on, one that is much more popular than F-Zero. I actually think Star Fox 64 alone will be enough to push Fox into first place in this match. He's got the most popular series of any character here, and is more cool than the others. Given Nintendo's fanbase, this is all you need to get the SFF. The wild card here is Wario. We don't really know how popular the WarioWare series is, though Smooth Moves was received well enough. The other games in the series have done well enough for themselves; at least, better than F-Zero games. It's easy to think Wario > Falcon, but SSB factor paired with Wario being a fat slug of a character that no one likes makes it precarious to pick him over Falcon. Falcon has the cool factor going for him, and Wario doesn't. Wario is relying on standing strength to come in second place here, though Falcon edging him out wouldn't surprise me at all. Ulti's Prediction: Fox [32.00%] Wario [26.00%] Falcon [24.00%] Banjo [18.00%] Heroic Mario’s Analysis Fox McCloud -- 37% Wario -- 35% Captain Falcon -- 15% Banjo -- 13% If there were justice here, Captain Falcon would rock this. Alas, too many folks haven’t read The Interview! |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/11/2007 7:33:21 PM | message detail |
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This is a pretty simple match-up, really. The two characters of note in
this one are Fox and Wario. Both haven’t seen a contest since 2003,
both have put a few games under their belt, and both have been shown in
Brawl -- which accounts for something, I’m sure, but don’t ask me what
exactly. Naturally, one would think that Wario would have the advantage here due to being from the Mario series, which is far and away more popular than Star Fox. But for some reason, I see Fox having the more dedicated fanbase, and just being liked more within the Nintendo fanbase. The Star Fox series may be weaker than Mario, but it’s still loved (rightfully so!), and Fox being in SSBM gives him that “SSB vote.” I think there being three total Nintendo characters here could actually end up helping Fox more than hindering him, too. It’s not that he’s immune to SFF -- quite the contrary -- but I’m more confident in him having the larger number of hardcore fans. Bracket: Fox > Wario Vote: Captain Falcon -- winning is bold Yoblazer’s Analysis Well, if you're looking for a match with four-way SFF, this is probably your best bet. Three of these characters are true blue Nintendo, and the fourth has only appeared on Nintendo systems. I am, of course, talkin' about my boy Captain Falcon, the supa cool Fox McCloud, fatman extraordinaire Wario, and uhh... Banjo. Let's get it on or something! Fox is the clear favorite in this match. Of the four characters, he stars in the strongest main series (unless you count Wario's combined appearances in the multiplayer Mario games), and is one of the most popular and beloved characters in the Super Smash Bros. scene. Even with all the surprising previous results and SFF galore in this match, I'm not expecting him to lose this. Banjo, on the other hand, is pretty screwed. Despite appearing only on Nintendo systems, he has none of the Nintendo fringe benefits (SSB, other multiplayer games, etc.) his opponents all share. This, coupled with the fact that he hasn't starred in a game in years, spells his doom. The battle for second has seen some debate, but general opinion still firmly favors Wario. While Captain Falcon does have the Smash advantage, many, including me, feel that Fox will neutralize it. Wario also has what could be a significant ace in the hole: WarioWare. He didn't have the relatively new series when he sucked it up against Shadow in 2003, but he has it now. It's fun, addictive, extremely well selling, and may not be all that popular on GameFAQs, but when his competition is weak, it could make a difference. Fox > Wario. Fox McCloud - 34% Wario - 25% Captain Falcon - 22% Banjo - 19% Lopen’s Analysis Why couldn't Captain Falcon be stuck in a match with another fodder and Link/Cloud so I could just make an analysis involving entirely Captain Falcon quotes and Falcon Punching Marle? *sigh*... okay.. I'll try and "analyze" this four pack... though it bores me quite a bit. Not because it's terribly easy... just because... I don't know, I just hate it, okay? Yes, I'm incredibly unbiased, fools! Okay, speaking of Captain Falcon, he's got no chance here. Period. I think about F-Zero people have played his series... whatever the hell it's called. Smash Brothers? Fox is a bigger favorite from that, so he'll be sponging up the votes from there. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/11/2007 7:34:42 PM | message detail |
| So then we've got sorta SFFed Smash + Star Fox vs
Warioware + Mario Golf/Baseball/Party 1-45/Soccer/Power Tea Drinking vs
Banjo Kazooie. (which I don't see standing the test of 8 years well
enough to be a threat.) Give me Fox and Wario based on those
credentials. With Fox doing a bit better because of Smash, if nothing
else. You'll notice that I have Captain Falcon higher than Banjo
despite throwing Captain Falcon out of the running first. That's just
because I see Banjo as having more x-factors going for him in this
match. I still think he'll be weakest, by far. Lopen's Prediction: Fox - 32.08% Wario – 29.08% Captain Falcon - 21.60% Banjo – 15.24% Karma Hunter’s Analysis One of the easiest decisions for me to make so far (so I'm sure I'll be wrong !!). Fox is a clear step above these chumps, and Wario would be stronger than Falcon if he had SSBB - and now he has the trailer, and that at least helps. It's an all-Nintendo SFF fest here, but I feel safe about having Fox and Wario advancing, in that order. Falcon could *maybe* upset, but Banjo's got really nothing here. Really not much more to say, other than the dynamics of who win may affect the next match thanks to Meta Knight. Yay SSBB fest -_- Karma Hunter's Vote: Captain Falcon. You think you can beat me? NO WAI Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Fox with 35%, Wario with 27%, Captain Falcon with 22.5%, Banjo with 15.5% Upset Probability: 20% Of course, Falcon has a slight shot at this, with Banjo being even slighter. Falcon has actually appeared in SSB, and Banjo has Rare "independence" on his side. I dunno though... I realy don't see this outcome changing much. Prove me wrong, unpredictable contest! Transience’s Analysis why hello there, Nintendo. three lower-tier Nintendo characters and another guy with Nintendo roots get thrown into a poll that should probably be unpredictable, but isn't really all that bad. Banjo is likely fodder so we don't have to worry about him, but the other three Nintendo guys could finish in any order and I wouldn't be all that surprised. to start with, we've got two guys that get most of their popularity from SSBM - Falcon and Fox. I don't see how Falcon could possibly beat Fox in this match. Fox has more SSBM fans, more fans from his native series and probably a more appealing character design. I see Falcon as being a guy that gets nearly all of his votes from SSBM. he got beat by Crono pretty hard and you won't find racing game characters being worth much at all on this site. I see Falcon as being a non-factor in this match, except for the possibility of splitting "SSBM votes" with Fox to weaken him. then there's Wario. Wario's sole contest performance is a pretty bad one: a doubling at the hands of Shadow in 2003. a lot of people, myself included, took Wario to win that match. he looked like fodder and hasn't been back since. however, since that time Nintendo characters have boosted site-wide, Warioware has become a real series, and he's got that SSBB announcement to work off of. it's very likely that Wario's stronger now than ever. is it enough to take Fox? maybe, but I'm not betting on it. being a fan-favourite in SSBM > farting in some trailer. Starfox 64 >> everything Wario's ever been in, not to mention that being the main character in a game is more important than being one of a sea of characters in one of those party games. Wario is certainly more well-known and seems more "now" than Fox does, but I'm gonna put my faith in Mr. McCloud here. Do a barrel roll! Wario farts, Falcon's lame man, Nintendo sucks transience's prediction: Fox - 36.33%, Wario - 32.44%, Captain Falcon - 16.55%, Banjo - 14.68% |
| Dilated Chemist | Posted 9/11/2007 7:35:15 PM | message detail |
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LOL Peach Sephiroth > Meta Knight > Fox > Wario in Round 2, believe! --- DC |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/11/2007 7:35:23 PM | message detail |
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Guest’s Analysis - Haste2 Ah, a Nintendo all-stars match...! I'm right at home here. However, that's not how it's going to be for everyone: the vote totals are going to be deathly low, as past Nintendo/Nintendo matches have shown. This match will attract Nintendo fans, and none else. Now, let's compare the past results with everyone. Fox McCloud: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=947 Captain Falcon: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2527 Wario: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1322 Two are ancient, yes. The easiest comparison here is between Fox and Captain Falcon. Cloud at any time is arguably stronger than Crono of last year. Also note that Captain Falcon's score was post-2K5 (Nintendo boost!), so I see no reason for Captain Falcon to be any threat for Fox McCloud, let alone both Fox and Wario combined. Banjo should be another Conker, really... Is a bear wearing a backpack that appealing? He may be able to avoid some SFF here making him look decent (beating out Captain Falcon, perhaps?), considering Conker was able to avoid such from Yoshi way back when. Let's get into the real meat and potatoes now... Wario or Fox McCloud? Let's look into Wario first. Wario was rather embarassed by Shadow... and now that we've seen Shadow disappoint against Auron (he was closer to Pyramid Head than Auron, for pete's sake)... however, it's my opinion that Shadow gets hurt in the 4-character format. Next, I'll point to Shadow's anomaly... the WTF 45% on Mario. Well, would it be so bad to assume that a little bit of that was actually Shadow's own strength? It's rather unfair to say he couldn't have been stronger than an SFF-adjusted x-stats value from SC2K4. As for Wario TODAY... he's gotten Wario's gotten increased publicity and has a part in some really respected games, most notably his WarioWare sequels. These games appeal to a different audience, allowing Wario to get exposure to a wider demographic. Demographics is more important than the character's role at times. Finally, Wario has been announced for Super Smash Bros. Brawl... we have seen Meta Knight perform well already (not to mention Snake of last year), so it's pretty clear SSBB is quite potent. Did I mention Wario is one of the greatest characters ever? His fans realize such, and thus they will back Wario like no tomorrow in a 4-way poll! Yes, of course. Finally, some voters will be confused and think that Wario is actually Mario... why, when I was a little kid I used to think Wario was Mario, but just drawn weird... didn't you? =P Now, getting to Fox McCloud... he deserves to be the favorite, admittedly. He's done decent, yet he failed to even perform up to the level of Miles "Tails" Prower back in the day. He has reason for increase... it seems Super Smash Bros. Melee has skyrocketed in popularity as of late (which is apparently the backbone of the Nintendo Boost), though I can't explain why. Fox McCloud, I believe, gets most of his backing from SSBM itself. Yes, SF64 is extremely popular, but how much do you actually like Fox in that game? Everything from SF64 is so very cheesy. However, Fox's badness scale in SSBM is sky-high, not to mention SSBM is the Fox-featuring game that people play these days. He's had a couple of new games out, too. How could Fox possibly lose? Well, Fox's "advantage" is going to ultimately result in Fox's demise. Why? Captain Falcon. He steals SSB support from Fox, meaning the only strong base Fox now has is his unlikeable role in the Star Fox series... meanwhile, Wario has less to lose from that, and is still able to ride off the Mario fanbase. Final Results: Banjo - 17.36% Captain Falcon - 22.22% Fox McCloud - 30.10% Wario - 30.32% I'm Wario! I'm-a gonna win-a! (You already won, silly!) Crew Consensus: Fox > Wario, we guess. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/11/2007 7:38:04 PM | message detail |
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We've seen conflicting multi-fanbase polls in consecutive days -
Bowser was clearly hurt by Mewtwo and Toad, but Meta-Knight and Peach
probably aren't hurting each other much. I think the key is the
percentage of the vote up for grabs: in a low percentage situation
(like today, PH/Chris, and Arthas/Diablo) there's less "LFF" because
each character is down to their core fanbase. Meta-Knight and Peach are hurting eachother though. Take Peach out of this poll and Suddenly Meta-Knight is at 30+% TuRtLe ~~~ 28/32 in the contest. Next pick: Sephiroth > Peach BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/11/2007 7:40:31 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, Meta-Knight would totally break 30% on Sephiroth. Meta-Knight > Auron imho. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/11/2007 7:41:37 PM | message detail |
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Hell, take CATS out and Meta-Knight breaks 40%! Meta-Knight for Noble Nine killer! --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| creativename | Posted 9/11/2007 7:44:33 PM | message detail |
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I think people who believe Meta's strength is based of Brawl fever, and thus is good for Pit, are barking up the wrong tree. Pit's pack is still a toss-up, but I don't think Meta Knight's performance is much of a positive sign for Pit. Not saying it definitely isn't, but it's very dubious to think so. Also, this is why I dislike people calling stuff "hardcore" after the fact. Last night, people actually called Meta Knight hardcore (which was so surprising to me), when he obviously behaves like a totally non-hardcore character in terms of vote patterns. And if you asked anyone before the match, virtually no one would have said "hardcore Meta Knight fans" exist in noteworthy numbers. People need to stop trying to rationalize any and all surprises as "hardcore" theory, unless they openly specify the definition of hardcore beforehand. Because up to this point, hardcore theory has flopped incredibly hard and seems worthless. Yet people seem to have trouble letting it go. Also I think people are getting insanely carried away with this Brawl fever boost stuff. I do buy it for Snake, because that hype was very high, and rather than being a stretch it's almost obvious with him. But it's a big stretch for anyone else. (only reason it might conceivably help Pit is because Luigi is getting all the votes there) Mumei: The Kirby series has sold over 20 million games. Meta Knight has appeared in Kirby's Avalanche, Super Star, NIghtmare in Dreamland, Air Ride, the Amazing Mirror, Canvas Curse, and Squeak Squad, and has been a fan favorite in the series the entire time. Good post. The notion that most, or close to most, of Meta Knight's strength is coming from Brawl is utter crap. Maybe some noticeable amount of it is, but that's pretty shaky itself, just not disprovable. People have said Kirby characters>Kirby games for years, and that makes sense...nobody "respects" Kirby games I think, they just play them. But Kirby the character is popular, and there were plenty of reasons for Meta Knight to be stronger than Peach here, without Brawl ever needing to be mentioned. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/11/2007 7:49:04 PM | message detail |
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man, I'd love to see Meta-Knight in a regular contest to see how he actually stacks up. --- Today: Sephiroth > CATS - Vote: Meta-Knight Tomorrow: Fox > Wario - Vote: Fox - Points: 26/30 |
| RockMFR 5 | Posted 9/11/2007 7:51:49 PM | message detail |
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Ahahahahaha holy crap, MK has an insane day vote. --- Save the cheerleader, save the world. o_0 The Ohio State University: We are so much better than m*ch!g@n. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/11/2007 7:52:26 PM | message detail |
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Uh, I'd say that Peach and MK are certainly close enough that Peach
would be winning this without MK's SSBB announcement. Perhaps not by a
huge amount, but winning nonetheless. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| Dilated Chemist | Posted 9/11/2007 7:53:01 PM | message detail |
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Pit will come in 2nd in his 4-pack on his pic alone. --- DC |
| Keno316 | Posted 9/11/2007 7:53:20 PM | message detail |
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Uh, I'd say that Peach and MK are certainly close enough that Peach
would be winning this without MK's SSBB announcement. Perhaps not by a
huge amount, but winning nonetheless. That really makes no difference now, cause the announcement was made and done with. --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB *Claims KG's Eclair, C.C. & Tear Grants* |
| BDawg | Posted 9/11/2007 7:54:17 PM | message detail |
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I've been nominating Fox every year and all I've gotten in return is a
beating on Pikachu and a couple of spankings by Clink. This year is
round 3 or bust baby! Even if it does mean Fox is gonna complete the
"trifecta" and have his ass handed to him by Sephiroth TWICE. And if
the "kiddies" try to push the fart joke into first I'm gonna have to
make some kind of "lost all credibility" post or something. Come on
who's with me in actually liking Fox and not yawning at a Nintendo SFF
match? --- Should I start running now? |
| charmander6000 | Posted 9/11/2007 7:56:28 PM | message detail |
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You really think Banjo is = to conker? I thought he was a great deal more popular. *shrug* That's a lot more credit than what most people here are giving him. Besides Conker only did about 3.5% worse on Crono than Captain Falcon and that was before his Xbox game (not that it'll count for much). I'd probably take Banjo to do better than Conker in the end. --- The Board 8 BOP - http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB6%20BOP.xls Match 9: Sephiroth > Peach Points: 28/32 |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/11/2007 7:57:32 PM | message detail |
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Hell, take CATS out and Meta-Knight breaks 40%! Meta-Knight for Noble Nine killer! Why stop there? Take Seph out of the poll and he's getting damn near 100%! Meta Knight for champion! --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe Banjo/Falcon/Fox/Wario - Bracket: Fox > Wario - Vote: Fox (30/36) |
| charmander6000 | Posted 9/11/2007 7:59:28 PM | message detail |
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Pit will come in 2nd in his 4-pack on his pic alone. Watch Pit get his Kid Icarus pic. http://www.vgboxart.com/boxes/DS/2769-orig.jpg --- The Board 8 BOP - http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB6%20BOP.xls Match 9: Sephiroth > Peach Points: 28/32 |
| Xuxon | Posted 9/11/2007 8:00:25 PM | message detail |
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Looks like Fox could be the only character that has won more than one
match and only lost to Clinkeroth (besides Link and Sephiroth). --- FFXII NLB - finished - 39 marks FFXII LLIENANMiNDM - Bhujerba (post-Ba'Gamnan) |
| creativename | Posted 9/11/2007 8:01:14 PM | message detail |
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This does have the smell of being Fox's year. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Dilated Chemist | Posted 9/11/2007 8:02:10 PM | message detail |
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Watch Pit get his SSBB pic. --- DC |
| creativename | Posted 9/11/2007 8:03:17 PM | message detail |
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Watch Pit get his Kid Icarus pic. I think an 8-bit pic would be the best for him, over Brawl art. It would get him noticed, and get him plenty of old-school votes that otherwise would never vote for him. I also think Pit's probably a lot more pic-sensitive than the average character. Of course, the box art you showed would be terrible. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/11/2007 8:03:19 PM | message detail |
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You can call thinking Meta Knight benefiting significantly from SSBB
"utter crap" if you want, but I'm still not believing that Meta Knight
has significant strength of his own when the Kirby series has NEVER
shown any type of popularity as far as GameFAQs goes, and people like
Ness and Fox have only shown to be midcarders with
SSB/SSBM backing them on top of their respective games. If you think
Meta Knight breaks the fodderline before being announced in SSBB, I
still have to kindly disagree. --- Currently playing: Call of Duty 2, Maverick Hunter X, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Dead Rising, Tomb Raider Legend |
| creativename | Posted 9/11/2007 8:03:48 PM | message detail |
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Of course there's no chance of Pit actually getting 8-bit pic. He'll get Brawl art. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 9/11/2007 8:08:23 PM | message detail |
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Brawl art would help him infinitely more than a Kid Icarus one. If
you're going to vote Pit based on Kid Icarus, chances are you're not
going to need the picture to vote for him, if people are backing him on
SBBB they will. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| creativename | Posted 9/11/2007 8:10:05 PM | message detail |
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but I'm still not believing that Meta Knight has significant
strength of his own when the Kirby series has NEVER shown any type of
popularity as far as GameFAQs goes, "Kirby characters>Kirby games" has been a common refrain on this site for years, so this means virtually nil. We've known the Kirby series isn't respected, that means little for Meta Knight. My logic for Meta Knight having a shot here beforehand was mostly his character design, and Kirby proxy potential. and people like Ness and Fox have only shown to be midcarders with SSB/SSBM backing them on top of their respective games. If you think Meta Knight breaks the fodderline before being announced in SSBB, I still have to kindly disagree. I really don't see how Brawl announcement could impact his strength by more than like one point. Especially with his day vote. I think that's really the nail in the coffin of the Brawl hype theory. That theory would've been quite reasonable if he had a good board vote and struggled with the day. Last night I figured that was possible, so I didn't totally discount the Brawl hype theory at the time. But now I have to discount it almost completely, because all these after-school kiddies both knowing about Meta Knight being in Brawl, and having it affect their vote for some reason, is incredibly hard to swallow. The real issue is, how much of a boost Meta Knight will get afterwards. I certainly expect Brawl to boost him after it comes out, because it's easy to foresee him being a fan favorite. (and the reason that it's easy to foresee fan favorite status for him, is the same reason why I figured he had a shot here - he just has an innate appeal) --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| creativename | Posted 9/11/2007 8:11:59 PM | message detail |
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If you're going to vote Pit based on Kid Icarus, chances are you're not going to need the picture to vote for him, Now this is very not true. Almost nobody knows the name Pit, and plenty of people (most, in fact) that would vote based on 8-bit art alone would not recognize the name Pit. This would've been true, if his name was listed as Kid Icarus. But of course, if that was the case, then this wouldn't have been a debated match anyway. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Dilated Chemist | Posted 9/11/2007 8:13:18 PM | message detail |
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Tingle is a fairy, phsically and literally. Lil Mac will have a worser pic than Poop Snake. Pit wins 2nd easy. --- DC |
| creativename | Posted 9/11/2007 8:15:34 PM | message detail |
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I'd pick Tingle over Pit, except for the fact that Luigi is in there. Because, who would vote for Tingle over Luigi? Despite that thought, I still have Tingle in my bracket because none of these guys inspired me with any confidence, so by default I went with the 'veteran'. But I think Pit is a very slight favorite right now. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Dilated Chemist | Posted 9/11/2007 8:16:37 PM | message detail |
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Tingle over Pit? Why, because he's a Zelda character? --- DC |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/11/2007 8:17:08 PM | message detail |
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Round 1- Division 3 Group B Characters Involved: Banjo Being a likely weak Nintendo 64 character, Banjo got probably the worst draw he could for his contest debut. lol fodder Captain Falcon Summer 2006 Contest Time Division - 8 Seed Time Round 1 --- Lost to (1) Crono, 29306 [25.84%] - 84090 [74.16%] Extrapolated Strength --- 46th Place [21.48%] One of 3 Nintendo characters, and likely the weakest of them in this fourpack, Falcon relies too much on his Smash Bros. appearances to even have a chance here. Then again, stranger things have happened. Fox Summer 2002 Contest North Division - 15 Seed Northern Round 1 --- Lost to (2) Cloud, 18599 [25.39%] - 54643 [74.61%] Extrapolated Strength --- 31st Place [18.99%] Summer 2003 Contest North Division - 9 Seed Northern Round 1 --- Defeated (8) Pikachu, 67856 [68.67%] - 30962 [31.33%] Northern Quarterfinal --- Lost to (1) Link, 17261 [17.54%] - 81148 [82.46%] Extrapolated Strength --- 49th Place [17.54%] One of the biggest snubs in the 2004, 2005 and 2006 contests, Fox appears to be a midcarder, though the only evidence is him getting 25% on Cloud in 2002. Still, he's a fan-favourite in Smash, and has his own successful series to help him here, and is the favourite to take first here. Wario Summer 2003 Contest South Division - 8 Seed South Round 1 --- Lost to (9) Shadow the Hedgehog, 36721 [35.10%] - 67886 [64.90%] Extrapolated Strength --- 33rd Place [24.07%] Wario's sole contest appearance was a first round loss to Shadow the Hedgehog in the year Shadow put up 45% on Mario. And given how Shadow bombed this year, I wouldn't trust that value very much. Still, he's favoured for second place given the weakness of Falcon and Banjo. Predictions: Not much to say here, since 2 of these characters haven't been seen since 2k3 and one is new. This really is a crapshoot. Fox has reasons for being the favourite, including his prominent status in Super Smash, and the success of his own series. Wario should get second based solely on his own games, but him being in the Brawl trailor can't hurt. TuRtLe's Prediction: Fox 35%, Wario 30%, Captain Falcon 20%, Banjo 15% TuRtLe's Bracket: Fox > Wario TuRtLe's Vote: Fox TuRtLe ~~~ 28/32 in the contest. Next pick: Sephiroth > Peach BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 9/11/2007 8:17:19 PM | message detail |
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Mudkip>them both. Seriously. --- The apples were too strong for him.- Abomstar |
| Draco1214 | Posted 9/11/2007 8:17:49 PM | message detail |
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Luigi > Mudkip! Believe --- Currently Playing: Metroid Prime 2: Echoes, Persona 3 |
| creativename | Posted 9/11/2007 8:18:53 PM | message detail |
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Tingle over Pit? Why, because he's a Zelda character? Because I think people have at least heard of Tingle. And Mudkip has almost as good a shot to get 2nd as the other two. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Dilated Chemist | Posted 9/11/2007 8:19:45 PM | message detail |
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Now people have heard of Pit. Brawl Factor. --- DC |
| therealmnm | Posted 9/11/2007 8:21:21 PM | message detail |
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"Kirby characters>Kirby games" has been a common refrain on this site for years, so this means virtually nil. Kirby > Kirby games has been a common refrain on this site for years. Don't slip Meta Knight in there based on that. It was discussed in this topic that Kirby (and Samus too for that matter) probably got a lot of their popularity from SSB/SSBM. I really don't see how Brawl announcement could impact his strength by more than like one point. Especially with his day vote. I think that's really the nail in the coffin of the Brawl hype theory. That theory would've been quite reasonable if he had a good board vote and struggled with the day. Last night I figured that was possible, so I didn't totally discount the Brawl hype theory at the time. But now I have to discount it almost completely, because all these after-school kiddies both knowing about Meta Knight being in Brawl, and having it affect their vote for some reason, is incredibly hard to swallow. Because Brawl having over a year of massive hype including 2 E3's does absolutely nothing right? I don't see how you can agree that Snake jumping from the bottom of the Noble Nine to completely dominating Sonic and Snake (think about how hard it is to gain that much popularity when you're ALREADY that popular), but then say that the trailer couldn't possibly impact Meta Knight's strength by 1 percentage point. Again, I have to kindly disagree. --- Currently playing: Call of Duty 2, Maverick Hunter X, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Dead Rising, Tomb Raider Legend |
| Mumei | Posted 9/11/2007 8:25:49 PM | message detail |
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Aw, cn said I had a good post. I feel loved. --- "I believe that words uttered in passion contain a greater living truth than do those words which express thoughts rationally conceived" - Sensei |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/11/2007 8:27:14 PM | message detail |
| Snake boosted because he was introduced to
Nintendo fans who didn't really know him before. Pit doesn't really
have anything to boost from. Noone knows him aside from that girly
angel in the Brawl trailor. As for Meta Knight, I'm willing to bet more of his strength came from his character design than any Brawl trailors. But we'll see if Brawl is responsible for all this when we see the losers Pit, Marth and Ike step up to the plate. TuRtLe ~~~ 30/36 in the contest. Next pick: Fox > Wario BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
