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PortugalTheMann | Posted 9/11/2007 3:35:58 PM | message detail
edgeworth has wang envy
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I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken
ZFS | Posted 9/11/2007 3:36:57 PM | message detail
Keep playing the games and we'll see if your tune changes!

Thinking about picking up the other one sometime, probably after Phantom Hourglass! (aww yeah)

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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/11/2007 3:37:09 PM | message detail
Yeah, which means squat when you factor in that BIDOOF IS HATED.
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wavedash101 | Posted 9/11/2007 3:38:50 PM | message detail
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therealmnm | Posted 9/11/2007 3:38:56 PM | message detail
Why is Bidoof hated? He's just a random Pokemon... I could see if he was not cared about, but why would Pokemon fans go out of their way to hate a random Pokemon not named Pikachu?
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/11/2007 3:39:17 PM | message detail
Bidoof is the spawn of Satan.
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satai_delenn | Posted 9/11/2007 3:39:54 PM | message detail
Link - 85.87%
Edgeworth - 10%
Agent J - 5%
Bidoof - -0.87%


This would make me laugh so much.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/11/2007 3:40:09 PM | message detail
Really stupid design, being yet another inferior 'Ratatta' style Pokemon that already sucked to begin with weak, looks stupid.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 9/11/2007 3:40:10 PM | message detail
he's not hated by anybody... he's worthless, but people don't hate him for it. they just thick he sucks. that doesn't mean they still won't vote for him just being a pokemon. I saw that with Nidoran already, and don't you dare tell me she has a fanbase among fans of the games.
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I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken
swirIdude | Posted 9/11/2007 3:40:14 PM | message detail
Bidoof is the spawn of Satan.

This.
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ZFS | Posted 9/11/2007 3:40:16 PM | message detail
satan -- http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/8531/art011wu9.jpg

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trannyscience | Posted 9/11/2007 3:40:47 PM | message detail
I shake with rage every time I think that that turd could beat Miles goddamn Edgeworth.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/11/2007 3:42:20 PM | message detail
I shake with rage every time I think that that turd(Link) could beat Sephi goddamn roth
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/11/2007 3:42:28 PM | message detail
he's not hated by anybody... he's worthless, but people don't hate him for it.

Wrong.

that doesn't mean they still won't vote for him just being a pokemon.

Wrong.

I saw that with Nidoran already, and don't you dare tell me she has a fanbase among fans of the games.

Fanbase, no, but people don't hate her. Plus she was against Samus, who is always one the bend end of any kind of Nintendo SFF, and [probably more susceptible to joke votes than others.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 9/11/2007 3:43:56 PM | message detail
who hates him? the only hate I've seen is around the message boards, and that hate has fueled a massive loving of him as a joke character.

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I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken
swirIdude | Posted 9/11/2007 3:44:38 PM | message detail
I shake with rage every time I think that that turd(Link) could beat Sephi goddamn roth

Your analogy is completely different and irrelevant. Link does not LOOK like a turd.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/11/2007 3:44:38 PM | message detail
Only on Board 8. Everyone else pretty much just hates his guts.
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ZFS | Posted 9/11/2007 3:44:41 PM | message detail
The day of this match is going to be hilarious.

the lines are drawn -- phoenix wright fanbase vs. pokemon fanbase lets do this

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/11/2007 3:44:59 PM | message detail
There are anti-Bidoof signs all over my town.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 9/11/2007 3:45:32 PM | message detail
oh. sorry.
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I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken
wavedash101 | Posted 9/11/2007 3:45:54 PM | message detail
Riots in da streets!

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Big Bob | Posted 9/11/2007 3:46:12 PM | message detail
http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=235

Clearly anti-Bidoof.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/11/2007 3:46:16 PM | message detail
Bidoof is the best trade fodder Pokemon in the game.
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wavedash101 | Posted 9/11/2007 3:48:11 PM | message detail
Wow that VGCats sucks more than usual

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PortugalTheMann | Posted 9/11/2007 3:50:12 PM | message detail
http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=235

Clearly anti-Bidoof.


*Clearly anti-pokemon.

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I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken
MMXcalibur | Posted 9/11/2007 3:54:37 PM | message detail
I have no idea why I took Bidoof over Miles E. What a stupid pick.
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Crossfiyah | Posted 9/11/2007 4:01:01 PM | message detail
I love this contest.

Sephiroth > Meta-Knight was a lock people, you just didn't see it.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/11/2007 4:01:39 PM | message detail
Silly us.
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Crossfiyah | Posted 9/11/2007 4:04:52 PM | message detail
I'll just go ahead and call Meta-Knight making Round 3 now.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/11/2007 4:05:59 PM | message detail
Meta Knight winning this certainly puts my Wario > Fox, Sephiroth > Fox pick into question.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/11/2007 4:31:08 PM | message detail
C'mon guys, no need to go crazy. Fox > Meta-Knight

...in Round 3
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THEVinceYoung | Posted 9/11/2007 4:36:48 PM | message detail
Who even cares about Meta Knight?

Uhhh...Anyone who's played Revenge of Meta-Knight? Or any other game he appears in? Seriously, Meta-Knight is awesome. Regardless, you can't draw definitive conclusions from a match like this. I don't buy this being all SSBB hype considering he's facing Peach here. That doesn't make any sense to me.

And is anyone considering Meta-Knight to round 3 after this performance? I don't know if he'll manage it, but how surprised would you be if he did? We need a Cinderella here, folks!
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wavedash101 | Posted 9/11/2007 4:40:45 PM | message detail
Meta Knight was a lock?...then I guess Sephy> Peach was a huge upset pick

Like not having any read on Meta and having two Ninty characters in there doesnt make this a complete crapshoot...no no no
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Crossfiyah | Posted 9/11/2007 4:44:10 PM | message detail
It's just logical.

Who would reasonably think the majority would vote Peach over Meta Knight? It makes no sense.
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Janus5000 | Posted 9/11/2007 4:44:24 PM | message detail
Meta-Knight making round 3 would be awesome.

And uh, yeah, plenty of people care about Meta-Knight. He's even playable in a game or two.
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THEVinceYoung | Posted 9/11/2007 4:45:30 PM | message detail
Who would reasonably think the majority would vote Peach over Meta Knight? It makes no sense.

...The majority of people aren't voting Meta-Knight over Peach either.
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trannyscience | Posted 9/11/2007 4:48:52 PM | message detail
by request -- division 2 winners and losers

Winners

STAR OF THE DIVISION: Marcus Fenix - yeah, his competition was pretty weak. yeah, Kefka had his lettuce picture. yeah, Kefka has one of the most disasterrific day votes we've ever seen.

that said, did you see that day vote? he turned a 900 vote deficit into a 5812 vote win. now THAT's a day vote. with Marcus Fenix looking to have the most independent fanbase in the next round, he's probably the favourite to advance to round three behind Cloud.

Ryu - Ryu scored 41% on Bowser in 2005. many of us knew that he had a fanbase that would not abandon him.. but 36% against Bowser, Mewtwo and Toad? the two Nintendo guys barely even hurt him, leading some to argue that 2005 Ryu was simply an anomaly and proving that characters rise and fall for utterly no reason in these things. Ryu was beating everyone down so hard at night that some people were calling Ryu > Bowser a lock for round 2. that's a definite overreaction, but it just shows you how impressive Ryu was.

Mewtwo - Mewtwo is another guy that I think is being overestimated thanks to this format. there is quite clearly a core Pokemon fanbase on this website that will vote their characters over anything, and Mewtwo just bleeds casual appeal.

that said, take Ryu and Toad out of the match and Bowser is projected to beat Mewtwo with 53.42% of the vote. that's closer than Leon Kennedy got. that's closer than Yoshi got. I don't think Mewtwo surprassed expectations as far as some others do, but 25% in a poll with two near-elites is pretty darn good.

Pyramid Head - it's tough to impress while getting destroyed, but Pyramid Head did. PH got 16.12% against Bowser in 2005, but against Auron, Shadow and Chris Redfield combined he scored the same percentage. either Pyramid Head's fanbase is 101% committed to him and will never abandon him or he's looking to be stronger in 2007 than he was in 2005.

Losers

TURD OF THE DIVISION- Shadow the Hedgehog - nobody flat out BOMBED this round, but Shadow sure as hell tried to. armed with a badass picture, Shadow lost an update overnight to Pyramid Head. he recovered nicely with the day vote, but this sure wasn't the guy who fluked 45% on Mario in 2003. most safe estimates had him getting 30%, but he couldn't even pull 27% with two pieces of fodder and Auron. Shadow proved that he has utterly no chance to survive round 2 unless both Ryu AND Bowser bomb -- not a likely possibility.

Lettuce Kefka - augh

Zelos Wilder - haha. in 2005, Clown Kefka only managed 64% on Mithos. remove Fenix/Nook and Kefka and Kefka is projected to get 72% on Zelos. so much for that rabid Tales fanbase! Zelos's late entrance and crappy character design seem to have doomed him to low-fodder status.. like, sub-Tom Nook status. you know, the guy who got 15% on Crono.

Jill Valentine - I don't really consider it a bomb. Ocelot and Jill were complete equals in my eyes, and her losing wasn't surprising. still, she was the bigtime bracket favourite and so she goes here. losing the day vote to Ocelot is unacceptable.

Bowser - I'm not surprised by him losing to Ryu. that was expected. but to lose percentage throughout the daytime in a poll with Ryu? to go 50/50 through the entire day with Mewtwo? flashbacks to his match with Kirby in 2005, another match that Bowser just sucked it up. watching Bowser slowly go from 30% to 29% to 28% scared every person with Bowser in round 4. every single one.
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Crossfiyah | Posted 9/11/2007 4:51:03 PM | message detail
"...The majority of people aren't voting Meta-Knight over Peach either."

Sephiroth is not part of the discussion right now, so yeah, still correct.
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greatone10 | Posted 9/11/2007 4:55:48 PM | message detail
watching Bowser slowly go from 30% to 29% to 28% scared every person with Bowser in round 4. every single one.

Speak for yourself.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 9/11/2007 5:29:51 PM | message detail
Time | CATS | Meta-Nite | Peach | Sephiroth
01:00 | 15.80% | 19.97% | 17.56% | 46.67%
02:00 | 13.77% | 17.45% | 17.12% | 51.66%
03:00 | 12.18% | 16.01% | 16.05% | 55.77%
04:00 | 12.24% | 15.75% | 15.36% | 56.65%
05:00 | 11.09% | 14.30% | 16.32% | 58.29%
06:00 | 11.21% | 14.97% | 17.07% | 56.76%
07:00 | 11.00% | 18.76% | 15.41% | 54.83%
08:00 | 10.64% | 20.38% | 15.93% | 53.05%
09:00 | 10.18% | 18.47% | 16.27% | 55.08%
10:00 | 11.66% | 16.25% | 17.51% | 54.59%
11:00 | 10.31% | 16.63% | 16.61% | 56.45%
12:00 | 10.72% | 15.27% | 15.88% | 58.14%
13:00 | 10.84% | 15.46% | 15.36% | 58.34%
14:00 | 10.92% | 14.92% | 15.92% | 58.24%
15:00 | 10.34% | 16.93% | 15.61% | 57.13%
16:00 | 09.91% | 19.81% | 14.80% | 55.48%
17:00 | 10.27% | 20.30% | 14.00% | 55.43%
18:00 | 10.20% | 20.14% | 13.65% | 56.00%
19:00 | 09.76% | 20.66% | 13.58% | 56.00%
20:00 | 09.98% | 20.10% | 13.53% | 56.39%

Okay, I expected Meta-Knight to do well with the afterschool vote, and he did - a tad better than in the morning. But I did not expect Peach to collapse quite like she did - I figured that Meta-Knight's percentage would be coming from CATS, maybe Seph, but it looks like it was split half and half between Seph and Peach.
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Who Cares? | Posted 9/11/2007 5:33:52 PM | message detail
WOW Peach, I can't even remember why I jumped off the Meta-Knight ship for you anymore! >:(
*is done whinig about losing 2 pts off this match*
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/11/2007 5:37:53 PM | message detail
I didn't see it brought up...but after seeing MK overcome Peach like this, how do people feel about Kirby's Round Two match against Kratos? I mean, if Peach isn't stopping MK, then DK ain't going to stop Kirby...

...but Kratos messes things up too. Any new thoughts about it now that we've seen today?
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 9/11/2007 5:40:09 PM | message detail
watching Bowser slowly go from 30% to 29% to 28% scared every person with Bowser in round 4. every single one.

Yeah, I predicted him to hit 25% tbh.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/11/2007 5:40:14 PM | message detail
DK is a whole different beast than Peach. He actually has fans.

Not too many, but still!
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 9/11/2007 5:41:26 PM | message detail
DK is a lot different than Peach... people actually like him. Anyway, I'd be tempted to take Kratos > Kirby head on, so I really don't think DK has to do much of anything anyway.

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BDawg | Posted 9/11/2007 5:43:28 PM | message detail
By the way, Birabel is a great HM slave and hell the water type at least makes him more usable than Furret or Linoone. Bidoof>Mewtwo CONFIRMED!
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RPGuy96 | Posted 9/11/2007 5:49:14 PM | message detail
We've seen conflicting multi-fanbase polls in consecutive days - Bowser was clearly hurt by Mewtwo and Toad, but Meta-Knight and Peach probably aren't hurting each other much. I think the key is the percentage of the vote up for grabs: in a low percentage situation (like today, PH/Chris, and Arthas/Diablo) there's less "LFF" because each character is down to their core fanbase.

But, as you free up more percentage, the less emphatic voters have essentially two main choices - the fanbase being leeched or the independent fanbase. Even if they make this choice (loosely) based on individual strength (ie, Nintendo gets 65% of the vote against Ryu), the split between two or three characters within the leeched fanbase hurts everybody in the absence of major traditional SFF (which might help the strongest party).

I have no idea how right that is but it seems to more or less conform to what we've seen. As for Kirby/Kratos/DK, there's a decent chance it'll fall into the latter case and hurt both Kirby and DK, but there's also a decent chance that Kirby SFF's DK, which helps him overcome some of that.

But it will be Prince Marth in that poll anyway, mwahahaha!
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Eggplant Lord | Posted 9/11/2007 5:52:51 PM | message detail
I wouldn't be too surprised if Banjo almost placed tomorrow. Am I alone? I think he would have the most separate and perhaps "dedicated" fanbase from the other characters.

Then again, the SFF from Fox could just bury him, I suppose <_<


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Djungelurban | Posted 9/11/2007 5:56:39 PM | message detail
Ok, it actually seems like you're seriously contemplating that Donkey Kong might have any chance of beating Kirby. That will never happen. DK has lost every single year against Kirby in the extrapolated standings and I see no reason why that would change now.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/11/2007 6:00:22 PM | message detail
If that's referring to me, DK doesn't stand a chance against Kirby. I'm just curious how much he'll affect Kirby.
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