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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 476

swirIdude | Posted 9/11/2007 12:57:50 PM | message detail
Wario got 35.11% on Shadow. Some will say Shadow's 45% on Mario means Wario is good, but that's rubbish! Shadow was merely a Sonic proxy, so 2004 suggests.
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voltch | Posted 9/11/2007 12:59:11 PM | message detail
at this point i don't even care anymore about what happens to my bracket.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/11/2007 1:00:46 PM | message detail
princess peach more like princess SUCK

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Posted 9/11/2007 1:50:36 PM
#419 I find it hilarious how this board hates and accuses everything emo/of being emo and jumps on Frog's wang like it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.


See, Frog is haunted by the tragic death of his best friend and feels inadequit because Cyrus died so Frog could get away, and Frog got zapped anyways. Emo kids are the people who cry over spilt milk so to speak.

A common misconception is that Squall is emo, when he is in fact, anti-social, and tell me you wouldn't be with the asshats he shares his game with? A true emo would be Zidane, who spends the better part of the entire third disk whining because he can't get in Garnet's pants.

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Mumei | Posted 9/11/2007 1:02:44 PM | message detail
Squall is delightfully misanthropic.

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Ngamer64 | Posted 9/11/2007 1:02:58 PM | message detail
Come on Peach, erect a 1000 vote barrier!

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Dragon0283 | Posted 9/11/2007 1:03:28 PM | message detail
I wonder if we'll still have 3 perfect 0's after todays match. Already broke all the perfects
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MnMZero | Posted 9/11/2007 1:06:15 PM | message detail
A true emo would be Zidane, who spends the better part of the entire third disk whining because he can't get in Garnet's pants.

Huh? I know it's Turtle speaking and all, but he never ceases to amaze me with some of his comments...

Oh, and here comes the stats topic with their typical Peach bashing! "Peach is who I THOUGHT she was!" etc etc etc And Ulti's not the only Peach fan dammit! SMB2, SMK, and SMRPG ftw! Still don't get how the Meta Knight love isn't stemming from his exposure in SSBB. Again, the Kirby series isn't that prominent. Again, I bring up Ridley from the much more prominent Metroid series. And don't give me that Metroid fans don't think Ridley is badass. He's just as much to the Metroid fanbase as Meta Knight is to the Kirby fanbase. And he wasn't worth much of anything...
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/11/2007 1:06:31 PM | message detail
I just had a thought

"*votes Meta Knight to support CATS*"

All part of The Plan?

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ZhangJunyi | Posted 9/11/2007 1:07:16 PM | message detail
With Sephiroth's performance, I'm so glad I had Mario > Sephiroth and then Link > Mario

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Luis_Sera89 | Posted 9/11/2007 1:09:29 PM | message detail
Ridley's not done yet :P He could still impress in his 4 pack. Not necessarily get 2nd but at least redeem himself.
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MnMZero | Posted 9/11/2007 1:11:49 PM | message detail
I honestly didn't even notice that Ridley was in the bracket...
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wavedash101 | Posted 9/11/2007 1:11:50 PM | message detail
Metroid has sold less than Kirby and Meta Knight has more exposure in them

Ridley really only has Super Metroid as a decent appearance...he is still awesome though
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/11/2007 1:12:26 PM | message detail
With Sephiroth's performance, I'm so glad I had Mario > Sephiroth and then Link > Mario

why? Sephiroth's already beaten Mario even with Cloud in the poll.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/11/2007 1:12:49 PM | message detail
He's just as much to the Metroid fanbase as Meta Knight is to the Kirby fanbase.

No, just no. I don't care what you try to say, Ridley is nowhere near as loved by the Metroid fanbase as Meta Knight is by Kirby's.
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Luis_Sera89 | Posted 9/11/2007 1:13:59 PM | message detail
Okay, imagine Ridley is announced for Brawl sometime between now and his 1st round match. What changes?
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/11/2007 1:14:53 PM | message detail
nothing.
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Today: Sephiroth > CATS - Vote: Meta-Knight
Tomorrow: Fox > Wario - Vote: Fox - Points: 26/30
swirIdude | Posted 9/11/2007 1:15:04 PM | message detail
Ridley gets more votes.

That's it. He won't defeat Leon and Vivi. He just won't.
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ZhangJunyi | Posted 9/11/2007 1:16:10 PM | message detail
why? Sephiroth's already beaten Mario even with Cloud in the poll.

Because it looks like Sephi is really underperforming in this match up. I have faith Mario could end up taking out Sephiroth now.

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Luis_Sera89 | Posted 9/11/2007 1:16:45 PM | message detail
I'd say with confidence that Ridley is the fan favourite in Metroid, not including Samus. His boss fights are usually the best in each game, they're challenging and have tons of atmosphere.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/11/2007 1:17:48 PM | message detail
Because it looks like Sephi is really underperforming in this match up. I have faith Mario could end up taking out Sephiroth now.

how can you even tell he is? he's doing pretty all right to me.
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MMXcalibur | Posted 9/11/2007 1:18:06 PM | message detail
My bracket is starting to look like a Christmas tree.
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Lopen | Posted 9/11/2007 1:19:44 PM | message detail
And don't give me that Metroid fans don't think Ridley is badass. He's just as much to the Metroid fanbase as Meta Knight is to the Kirby fanbase

I will give you just that, though. You tell me what Ridley does in the game (none of this HM grabbing crap from the instruction manual) that isn't a boss fight, and what makes his boss fights any better than those against many other bosses in the games. In his match, I think the meat of Ridley's votes came from bracket votes and "not Diablo" votes.

Meta Knight? Not only are his boss fights easily the coolest in the games, but he's also got dialogue and stuff to cement his status as the main Kirby villain.

You can say that Meta Knight shouldn't be more popular than Ridley because the Metroid fanbase is so much larger, and maybe I'll start to buy it... but I'm never going to go along with the idea that Ridley is as treasured by the Metroid fanbase as MK is by the Kirby fanbase.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/11/2007 1:20:23 PM | message detail
Why am I still following the updates augh

Massive increase by MK though, 46.
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 9/11/2007 1:21:24 PM | message detail
I'd say Sephiroth is doing about as expected here considering Meta Knight's strength. I had Sephiroth getting 58-59%, but that was with Meta Knight finishing below CATS.
MnMZero | Posted 9/11/2007 1:22:03 PM | message detail
Metroid has sold less than Kirby and Meta Knight has more exposure in them

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2428

Remember, we're talking about the GameFAQs userbase here, not total sales. Even if Meta Knight is more loved by the Kirby fanbase, the disparity between the popularity of the two series on GameFAQs more than makes up for that.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/11/2007 1:22:27 PM | message detail
Stop comparing Meta Knight to Ridley.

Like I said, he's way more like Protoman. And I think Protoman had the worst possible opponent he could have drawn in his one contest appearance.

He was basically up against the newer version of himself. Hell, he would have done better vs Mega Man than he did against Zero.

TuRtLe
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/11/2007 1:23:49 PM | message detail
As for the whole Sephiroth thing, you have to remember that there's going to be another Nintendo character in that poll, so there goes Mario's SFF advantage. The only chance Mario had was if CATS managed to make it to round 3.

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Dragonair | Posted 9/11/2007 1:24:07 PM | message detail
Fun fact Kirby's Adventure is in the most downloaded VC games list in Europe, it's dominated by Mario games for the rest, but still.
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swirIdude | Posted 9/11/2007 1:24:40 PM | message detail
As for the whole Sephiroth thing, you have to remember that there's going to be another Nintendo character in that poll, so there goes Mario's SFF advantage.

...Mario SFFs every Nintendo character not named Link to kingdom come.
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Lopen | Posted 9/11/2007 1:25:22 PM | message detail
And uh, XIII, I'd like to back out of the sig bet we had for Link's match. Looking at how poorly Cloud and Sephiroth have done, I just can't see it.

You can hold me to the bet if you want, though.
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MnMZero | Posted 9/11/2007 1:26:19 PM | message detail
Stop comparing Meta Knight to Ridley.

I'm really just comparing Meta Knight's contest strength to Ridley. People are acting like SSBB has nothing to do with today's results and that it's really the doing of the "hardcore Meta Knight fanbase" that has been on GameFAQs all along.
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swirIdude | Posted 9/11/2007 1:27:00 PM | message detail
Lopen, that signature rocks.

The only Nintendo characters that I expect to have a shot at being in Mario/Seph's 3rd round poll are Meta-Knight, Fox, and Wario. And you'd have to be kidding if you think Mario won't steal tons of votes from those guys, especially Wario.
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Lopen | Posted 9/11/2007 1:28:34 PM | message detail
I don't buy that most of this is Brawl at all. Maybe he got a slight boost, less than what Snake had last year, but who is going to say hype for a game puts you most of the way over Peach and CATS, really?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/11/2007 1:29:05 PM | message detail
I find it hard to believe either side of that argument.

I wouldn't expect the ignorant masses to know who Meta Knight is, but at the same time I wouldn't expect them to be following the Brawl updates and still voting him above Peach.

If I had to guess I'd say it was the former, since appearing in a Brawl trailer shouldn't give him an SFF split advantage over Peach. You'd have to know he's a badass to support him like that.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/11/2007 1:29:08 PM | message detail
Hardcore Meta-Knight fan right here !

This match really intrigues me, though. Meta is rather decisively winning the day vote from Peach. Granted, we've already come to the conlusion that no one actually cares about Peach...but still.

I'm very interested to see how Meta is going to preform next round with two Nintendo characters in the poll.
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Lopen | Posted 9/11/2007 1:30:07 PM | message detail
Oh yeah, swirl, you're a wise man. Master Chief is going to win with the backing of this battle cry !!
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/11/2007 1:31:03 PM | message detail
It might seem hard to believe that this is SSBB...but I still think it is.

And uh, XIII, I'd like to back out of the sig bet we had for Link's match. Looking at how poorly Cloud and Sephiroth have done, I just can't see it.

You can hold me to the bet if you want, though.


I'm holding you to it, but I feel mean doing it now =(
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/11/2007 1:31:36 PM | message detail
I think he has a great shot at either second or third to Fox. I guess next round will really test if this is a Smash thing, or if Meta Knight really has such a large fanbase. I wouldn't expect him to hold up nearly this good against Fox if it is all Brawl boost.

Man, that game is going to be crazy if we have a games contest next year. I'd probably take it over a good chunk of the 2k4 field.

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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/11/2007 1:33:53 PM | message detail
Though I think MK would have a reasonable amount of strength before SFF. He seems to be worshipped by the Kirby fanbase - he might be one of those characters who has a small number of fans who'll vote for him over anything else (ie, most kirby fans). Though I still think SSBB is a factor.
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Lopen | Posted 9/11/2007 1:36:12 PM | message detail
Haha... yes... riddle yourself with guilt.

It will be all the more satisfying when you lose, now... you had your easy out!! (Don't worry, Swirldude and MC fans, it's only two weeks, the Master Chief battle sig will be back in time for his round 2 match!)
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/11/2007 1:37:15 PM | message detail
That's another thing I've never really gotten - why are people calling Cloud and Sephiroth's preformaces poor? Grabbing over 50% of a poll (60% in Cloud's case) with four characters isn't exactly bad. Even in 1v1 matches, stuff like 80% is pretty damn tough to get. What were you people expecting? All N9 members have proved themselves so far by garnering half their respective polls. It's not like any of them had uber-fodder either. All of them had at least mid-carders to deal with.

Hell, even the percentages they've obtained correlate to their strangths among the Noble Nine (Cloud > Sephiroth > Samus > Mega Man). I think a lot of you are vastly underestimating what kind of damage having 2 addition characters in a poll will to their percentages.

I wouldn't be shocked if Link didn't hit 70% in his first round.
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trannyscience | Posted 9/11/2007 1:38:11 PM | message detail
I tried some of that Master Chief Soda this weekend -- blech! even my best friend didn't like it, and he'd eat raw pig ass without thinking.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/11/2007 1:38:29 PM | message detail
It will be all the more satisfying when you lose, now... you had your easy out!! (Don't worry, Swirldude and MC fans, it's only two weeks, the Master Chief battle sig will be back in time for his round 2 match!)

Yeah...

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I was just thinking how awful this would be if it backfired. >_<
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/11/2007 1:40:23 PM | message detail
I'm packing Pac Man to get the lowest percentage in this contest, btw. SFF prone and he's up against Mario, a cult (?) favourite and Big Boss. If Boss got a Naked Snake pic he'd be in the money, but...
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Lopen | Posted 9/11/2007 1:41:53 PM | message detail
Sure, Kleenex, but the thing is I'm calling for Link to hit 85%. And I thought Cloud and Seph would've easily broke 65%.

And how dare you insult MC soda, tranny! That stuff is awesome, dammit!
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/11/2007 1:42:26 PM | message detail
omg triple post sry

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calling performances poor?

I don't think they're POOR per se, just disappointing. What they're doing is alright, but I was expecting Mass Destruction by the N9, Clinkeroth in particular.

I wouldn't be shocked if Link didn't hit 70% in his first round.

Me neither, but that's 15% away, Lopen!

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trannyscience | Posted 9/11/2007 1:43:12 PM | message detail
you know you're a fanboy if you defend Master Chief Soda! I'm anti-voting him out of spite now.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/11/2007 1:43:24 PM | message detail
whoops i mean link with 124% gogogo
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Lopen | Posted 9/11/2007 1:46:01 PM | message detail
I still think Link will break 80% with ease just because he's facing much weaker competition than Cloud and Seph, and he SFFs all of it, in theory.

... and please redirect all Master Chief anti-votes to Yuna! Thanks!
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/11/2007 1:46:41 PM | message detail
Can I just say that MK is pulling in absoultely ridiculous gains here as well?

I'm getting less and less impressed by 70 vote gains in this format. I thought it was an incredible thing to do, but Axel, Fenix and now MK have all been able to do stuff like that. Meh.

Also, MK might well be beating Peach in a regular match. It would appear he has a bit of Nintendo love over her.
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