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| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/11/2007 9:51:19 PM | message detail |
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I may be stinking it up so far in round 1, but my round 2 is shaping up
pretty good. The only big doubts I really have is Knuckles/Yoshi lol censor bypass agin TuRtLe ~~~ 30/36 in the contest. Next pick: Fox > Wario BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| greatone10 | Posted 9/11/2007 9:54:01 PM | message detail |
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I love how this new format means that Round 1 can go back to not
meaning a damn in the long run and the later matches actually matter. --- Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest. This line reserved for next Guru winner. Unless it's me, therefore reserving plenty of noms for Dixie/DKC2. |
| TexasAggie | Posted 9/11/2007 10:00:19 PM | message detail |
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I agree Fox in round 3 was obvious, but I took Peach. I sort of took
her at first glance since she did ok last year, and Fox had been absent
a few contests running. I usually check over my bracket multiple times, but due to being busy, I let this one slide. --- Contest pts: 30 Today: Fox>Wario |
| RockMFR 5 | Posted 9/11/2007 10:00:29 PM | message detail |
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Does Wander have any chance of doing anything in tomorrow's match? --- Save the cheerleader, save the world. o_0 The Ohio State University: We are so much better than m*ch!g@n. |
| Janus5000 | Posted 9/11/2007 10:01:19 PM | message detail |
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Wander has a great chance of getting last. --- "Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." - Joseph Stalin |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/11/2007 10:01:53 PM | message detail |
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The inherent unpredictability of the format aside, *checks* DEAR GOD NO --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| Forceful Dragon | Posted 9/11/2007 10:02:40 PM | message detail |
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Wander will be fighting valiently tomorrow.... ...against the Mario SFF'd Pac Man in the contest of "who can suck more". I think Pac Man gets 3rd place though...barely. --- Eff Dee |
| Forceful Dragon | Posted 9/11/2007 10:03:22 PM | message detail |
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Also Wario is through the 100-vote barrier. The first 100 is often times the hardest. --- Eff Dee |
| transience | Posted 9/11/2007 10:04:11 PM | message detail |
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looks like Wario is confirming what we already suspected - he's a night
vote kinda guy. if he can go 50/50 with Falcon in the daytime and win
the night, he's obviously got this. --- "where the heck does diablo get his votes from on weekends? He should be losing because christians are fresh from the church and voting against evil" -voltch |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/11/2007 10:05:07 PM | message detail |
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I'm slightly wary of Pac and think he might be a *wee* bit
underestimated in this setting - while we've seen him get SFFed before,
he's never gone up against Mario himself (though you HAVE to presume
he'd get SFFed, right...?) and SFF has been a bit wonky in four-way
polls like this. Still, I feel superbly confident in BB. But I don't
expect Wander to give Pac a run for his money... --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| redrocket | Posted 9/11/2007 10:05:42 PM | message detail |
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I think Wander is going to be giving Midgar Zolom a run for his money. --- http://www.pacifier.com/~zen/creepy.jpg http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/5/56/250px-Clock_Spider.jpg |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/11/2007 10:06:31 PM | message detail |
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Wario's doing decent here. Trends could be pretty weird in this match,
but I tend to agree with cn - I think Captain Falcon takes the after
school vote. I think I would pick Falcon to win at this point but it's
pretty much 50/50. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/11/2007 10:06:34 PM | message detail |
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Let's hope Pac can pull it off, because for some reason I have him in
my bracket despite me being pretty sure I changed it to Big Boss TuRtLe ~~~ 30/36 in the contest. Next pick: Fox > Wario BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/11/2007 10:08:49 PM | message detail |
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It'd have to be some ridiculous SFF for Pac to fall below Watermark
Boss, if you ask me. I'm pretty happy with my Pac-Man pick for now. --- ~*~ExThaNemesis~*~ I do a lot of pushups and situps, and I drink plenty of juice. This bold part is here until the New York Yankees are in first place in the AL East again. 7/2/07 |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/11/2007 10:08:53 PM | message detail |
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aww yeah, looks like another... FALCON CUT! --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/11/2007 10:10:21 PM | message detail |
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It'd have to be some ridiculous SFF for Pac to fall below Watermark Boss Big Boss (2005c) VS Pac-Man (2005c raw) Big Boss has a strength of 17.62. Pac-Man has a strength of 13.45. Big Boss wins with 61.83% of the vote! A win of 21,461 with 90,681 total votes cast. You've been smarmy about that for awhile, but it already happened once. --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/11/2007 10:12:00 PM | message detail |
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(notice how he used Pac's raw value there) TuRtLe ~~~ 30/36 in the contest. Next pick: Fox > Wario BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/11/2007 10:12:31 PM | message detail |
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2004 and 2005 Pac-Man isn't entirely his fault, though, as Yoshi had a major role in both of those XS values. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/11/2007 10:12:49 PM | message detail |
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And the way Fox is performing today, I think it's safe to say the Mario
> Seph bandwagon has been hit by an improvised explosive device. TuRtLe ~~~ 30/36 in the contest. Next pick: Fox > Wario BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 9/11/2007 10:13:50 PM | message detail |
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Fox has nothing to do with Mario. This is all him. --- - Owner of TWO sticky topics! Pearl Code: 3952 3520 2488 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/11/2007 10:14:57 PM | message detail |
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(notice how he used Pac's raw value there) I would think Pac's SFFed raw value would be of some note when discussing A SFF'D PAC-MAN --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| Haste_2 | Posted 9/11/2007 10:15:01 PM | message detail |
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To be fair to Pac-Man, that x-stat for Pac-Man also involves Yoshi
being SFFed by Mega Man. In fact... measure it from an adjusted Yoshi
(32% on BL or so), and this SFFed Pac-Man gets a close match with Big
Boss. I never realized this until just now. I think Pac-Man will also
suffer from a little bit of "fanbase split" with Mario, aside from
actually being SFFed from Mario, so I think Big Boss still has the
advantage. However... it might be closer than I originally anticipated.
--- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/11/2007 10:15:34 PM | message detail |
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And the way Fox is performing today, I think it's safe to say the
Mario > Seph bandwagon has been hit by an improvised explosive
device. Too true. Fox's impressive performance here is a great sign for Mario. I never expected such domination by Nintendo in this match. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| Haste_2 | Posted 9/11/2007 10:16:32 PM | message detail |
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I know, the SFF Mario giving is going to be worse, but... maybe Pac-Man could survive somehow still. >_> --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| Big Bob | Posted 9/11/2007 10:17:16 PM | message detail |
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Of course he'd use Pac-Man's raw value from the fight with Yoshi. I'm
sure Pac-Man would slaughter BB in a one-on-one fight. The point is
that when being suppressed by SFF, Pac-Man is weaker. --- "It's Meta Knight, whose introduction was delayed for some reason." - Sakurai |
| Big Bob | Posted 9/11/2007 10:17:58 PM | message detail |
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Oh yeah, I forgot about Mega Man. ...Big Boss will get 2nd anyway. --- "It's Meta Knight, whose introduction was delayed for some reason." - Sakurai |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/11/2007 10:18:15 PM | message detail |
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To be fair to Pac-Man, that x-stat for Pac-Man also involves Yoshi
being SFFed by Mega Man. In fact... measure it from an adjusted Yoshi
(32% on BL or so), and this SFFed Pac-Man gets a close match with Big
Boss. I never realized this until just now. I think Pac-Man will also
suffer from a little bit of "fanbase split" with Mario, aside from
actually being SFFed from Mario, so I think Big Boss still has the
advantage. However... it might be closer than I originally anticipated.
Stronger characters usually get more SFF though, don't they? Mario got way more SFF on Ness than Bowser did, after all. And, of course, Samus could be underrated there, and she could've SFF'd Ganon, which would make Big Boss stronger. Not to mention MGS3: Subsistence coming out since then. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| paraboxx | Posted 9/11/2007 10:18:18 PM | message detail |
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Last post for the night: 1) I see very little reason for Wario/Falcon to go any differently from Peach/Meta Knight tomorrow. MK may have a more devoted fanbase than Falcon, but I don't think it's enough of a difference to change things. 2) I can sort of see SFF going against Pac-Man, since he and Mario are both cute, iconic characters. But Pac-Man isn't, exactly, Nintendo. I still wouldn't pick him for third, but I don't think he'll suffer as much as Bowser did. 3) I looked Wander up twice and I still don't remember who he is. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/11/2007 10:18:55 PM | message detail |
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I forgot that the raw Pac value doesn't take MM/Yoshi into account.
That certainly makes it closer, but I still feel confident in Big Boss
there. Remember, he's potentially underrated as well thanks to the
Mario/Samus & Samus/Ganondorf matches, depending on how you view
them. --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| Haste_2 | Posted 9/11/2007 10:19:19 PM | message detail |
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Fox's performance means nothing. Nothing at all besides his own
strength. You could maybe say that it hints at Mario doing poorly,
since Peach and Wario have both disappointed. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| Starion | Posted 9/11/2007 10:19:56 PM | message detail |
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I think he's the one fighting the Collosi but I am not 100% sure on that. --- 100% Frog Log Quest: Current Progress- 400 of 627 Completed: Jaster, Kisala, Deego |
| Dilated Chemist | Posted 9/11/2007 10:20:21 PM | message detail |
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Fox's performance in this match is like Squall vs. Tidus. --- DC |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/11/2007 10:21:45 PM | message detail |
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I think the meaning of Fox doing well boding badly for Mario means that
Mario is going to have another significant Nintendo character sapping
away at his strength in his Sephiroth match. Sephiroth has Magus to
contend with, sure, but FFVII and CT don't have near the same overlap
as most Nintendo/SSB characters do. --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| ZFS | Posted 9/11/2007 10:22:41 PM | message detail |
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augh stats topic stop it --- Experiment status report update: Metroid project 'Dread' is nearing the final stages of completion. |
| transience | Posted 9/11/2007 10:23:15 PM | message detail |
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yeah, if I thought Peach was going to be in that match with Sephiroth
and Magus, I'd probably have taken Mario. Fox is far more of a
favourite than Peach is. --- "where the heck does diablo get his votes from on weekends? He should be losing because christians are fresh from the church and voting against evil" -voltch |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/11/2007 10:25:19 PM | message detail |
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I don't think Fox will hurt Mario much -- Link still got over 80%
against him, and Mario's a mighty SFF'er himself even if he's not on
Link's level. Fox shouldn't bother Mario any more than Magus bothers
Sephiroth, at least. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| Haste_2 | Posted 9/11/2007 10:25:31 PM | message detail |
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I'm pretty sure Peach would steal more votes from Mario than Fox would.
Peach gets SFFed a lot worse by Mario than Fox because she's that much
more closely knit with Mario. Thinking of it that way, I don't think
Mario will lose much strength at all. Of course, I'm not expecting
Sephiroth to lose much, either. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| creativename | Posted 9/11/2007 10:27:47 PM | message detail |
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Does Wander have any chance of doing anything in tomorrow's match? Yes, of setting the record of lowest percentage for someone was wasn't blatantly SFFed. And Wander won't be giving Pac-Man any sort of run. The notion that this format might help less recognizable people is still possible, but Wander is waaay too weak regardless. I also agree with others that Pac-Man is a real threat to beat Big Boss. I'm just getting a barnburner vibe from that match. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Haste_2 | Posted 9/11/2007 10:27:51 PM | message detail |
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If Fox's percentage doesn't level off a few points, I'm going to have call Fox having an SFF advantage here. Speaking of which... KH, you mentioned that SFF has been wonky in this contest. What makes you think that? --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/11/2007 10:28:11 PM | message detail |
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I dunno. Things have changed a lot since 2003, since the days when SSBM could barely be considered the most popular game of last generation on this site (and even that was debatable !!).
I keep feeling that Mario and Fox in that match is gonna turn into a
redux of Mario/SSB from the Series Contest, with Fox holding up
surprisingly (read: disgustingly) well. And Mario suffering for it... --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 9/11/2007 10:28:47 PM | message detail |
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Ah goddamnit, there goes 2 perfectly good points. I had Wario > Fox --- Today's Subliminal Thought Is: |
| ZFS | Posted 9/11/2007 10:30:18 PM | message detail |
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I think people talking about Fox hurting Mario to any sort of significant degree are starting to presume a whole
lot based off of Fox beating down lower tier Nintendo characters.
There's no reason to assume that Mario is suddenly going to be losing
strength to any notable degree based off of this. I know we like to
jump to conclusions, but let's try to remain a bit reasonable. He isn't
going to be hurting Mario any more than Magus will hurt Sephiroth. I
don't think we need to recall Mario's history against other Nintendo
characters. --- Experiment status report update: Metroid project 'Dread' is nearing the final stages of completion. |
| transience | Posted 9/11/2007 10:32:13 PM | message detail |
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Fox hurting Mario makes about as much sense as Magus hurting Sephiroth, really. Sephiroth's never had a problem beating down fan-favourites -- what's up Auron. --- "where the heck does diablo get his votes from on weekends? He should be losing because christians are fresh from the church and voting against evil" -voltch |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/11/2007 10:32:19 PM | message detail |
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Speaking of which... KH, you mentioned that SFF has been wonky in this contest. What makes you think that? Arthas/Diablo, while certainly evidence of a Blizzard split, definitely favored Arthas decisively (and I'd be hard-pressed to take him one-on-one... and could Diablo SFF him?). Bowser bombing to let Mewtwo come relatively close. Of course, yesterday's Meta Knight and Peach. There's nothing concrete, and many of these characters are new so it's very hard to tell... but it just feels "off" to me. Tomorrow will confirm or deny my suspicions, I think. --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| creativename | Posted 9/11/2007 10:32:35 PM | message detail |
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He isn't going to be hurting Mario any more than Magus will hurt Sephiroth. The problem is that Mario needs Magus to hurt Sephiroth a lot more than Fox hurts Mario. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/11/2007 10:32:36 PM | message detail |
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The point I was trying to make, is that Mario would have needed his
absolute best SFFing power in that match, and Fox would definitely
resist SFF much better than Peach would. It's seemed as though Nintendo
and Chrono Trigger have had a slight bit of overlap, so Magus won't be
hurting JUST sephy there. TuRtLe ~~~ 30/36 in the contest. Next pick: Fox > Wario BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| creativename | Posted 9/11/2007 10:35:10 PM | message detail |
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Bowser bombing to let Mewtwo come relatively close. Of course, yesterday's Meta Knight and Peach. I think Mewtwo was hurt by SFF a lot there too. That was more split/leech factor than one-sided SFF I think. And I don't think that SFF had much to do with yesterday's match. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| ZFS | Posted 9/11/2007 10:35:26 PM | message detail |
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The problem is that Mario needs Magus to hurt Sephiroth a lot more than Fox hurts Mario. I don't think Magus needs to be doing a ton to Sephiroth there to give Mario a chance; it's not like he just came out yesterday and impressed. But the Mario > Sephiroth upset has always had an outside chance of happening, and Fox being there instead of, say, Peach isn't suddenly invalidating the possibility of it. That's all I'm getting at. --- Experiment status report update: Metroid project 'Dread' is nearing the final stages of completion. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/11/2007 10:36:06 PM | message detail |
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I also don't forget Mario's beatdown against chumps like Ness and the
like. But Fox has always seemed "different" to me, especially at this
stage of SSBM's popularity. He is widely considered to be the best
character in that game - immensely popular not only among experts, but
with casuals as well. With most fighting games this kind of stuff is
negligible, a drop in the bucket - but with SSBM I feel it's so much
more, and that it's going to come around this contest. Fox could be
considered *the* representative of SSB for all I could know, even when
pitted against Mario. Or maybe I'm just hanging around this board too much. =/ FOX FOR 2K7 CHAMP --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| creativename | Posted 9/11/2007 10:36:17 PM | message detail |
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and Fox being there instead of, say, Peach isn't suddenly invalidating the possibility of it. I do think Fox being there is more of a negative for him than Peach would be. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
