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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 474

SonicRaptor | Posted 9/10/2007 6:50:07 PM | message detail
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/10/2007 6:50:10 PM | message detail
Sorry. Thought you were a fan of the 'dorf...you've certainly seemed like it.
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trannyscience | Posted 9/10/2007 6:51:23 PM | message detail
Gordon Freeman would beat Bomberman, both normally and in this format.

Phoenix Wright also has the "fan-favourite" thing going on that so many people have been going on and on in this topic, including Leon and his Ocelot > Jill pick.

Bomberman certainly has a great chance there, but so does Phoenix.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/10/2007 6:51:26 PM | message detail
A lot of people here seem to forget Phoenix Wright lost to Gordon Freeman, I think that should be mentioned when discussing his chances.

Yep.

Also, Kirby lost to Jill. This is totally relevant and needs to be the focal point of all discussions of the two characters.
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MMXcalibur | Posted 9/10/2007 6:51:34 PM | message detail
Peach looks fat.
Nobody votes for fatties. Booo.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/10/2007 6:51:41 PM | message detail
'dorf's alright, but I'm certainly not silly enough to take him over Sonic!

Or Vincent!

Or the whole bracket!
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ZFS | Posted 9/10/2007 6:53:28 PM | message detail
I see what Tissue's doing there.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/10/2007 6:54:03 PM | message detail
I see what Aitch Emm's GANON > LINK CONFIRMED
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ZFS | Posted 9/10/2007 6:54:47 PM | message detail
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SonicRaptor | Posted 9/10/2007 6:55:23 PM | message detail
Phoenix Wright also has the "fan-favourite" thing going on that so many people have been going on and on in this topic, including Leon and his Ocelot > Jill pick.

I never really saw Phoenix Wright as having the tight-knit fanbase that many cult characters have that makes them contest winners. The fanbase is there, but it has so much esoteric humour that not many can look in and wonder what all the talk is about. Bomberman has mass appeal, I liked the Pac-Man comparison as it sums up his recognition very well.

Then again, I do have Pac-Man finishing behind Mario.
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trannyscience | Posted 9/10/2007 7:07:07 PM | message detail
I never really saw Phoenix Wright as having the tight-knit fanbase that many cult characters have that makes them contest winners. The fanbase is there, but it has so much esoteric humour that not many can look in and wonder what all the talk is about.

I can safely say that you have no clue about the PW fanbase, then. that's one of the tightest, close-knit fanbases there is.

you can question its size, but not its devotion.
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Keno316 | Posted 9/10/2007 7:07:22 PM | message detail
I see what Aitch Emm's GANON > LINK CONFIRMED


Lawl...Last year...
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/10/2007 7:33:59 PM | message detail
Match IX: CATS vs Meta Knight vs Peach vs Sephiroth

Information

Name: CATS
Game/Series From: Zero Wing
Past Contests: CB2k2, CB2k3, CB2k4, VC2k5, CB2k5, CB2k6
Wins: None
Losses: Ryu (2k2), Cloud (2k3), Link (2k4), Ansem (VC), Master Chief (2k5), Sonic (2k6)

Name: Meta Knight
Game/Series From: Kirby series
Past Contests: None
Wins: N/A
Losses: N/A

Name: Princess Peach Toadstool
Game/Series From: Mario series
Past Contests: CB2k6
Wins: Daisy (2k6), Jill (2k6)
Losses: Tifa (2k6)

Name: Sephiroth
Game/Series From: Final Fantasy VII
Past Contests: CB2k2, CB2k3, CB2k4, VC2k5, CB2k5, CB2k6
Wins: Gabe (2k2), Crash (2k2), Mega Man (2k2), Samus (2k2), Raziel (2k3), Max Payne (2k3), Alucard (2k3), Mario (2k3), Mega Man (2k3), Sly Cooper (2k4), Vivi (2k4), Auron (2k4), Ramirez (VC), Vergil (VC), Liquid Snake (VC), Bowser (VC), Ganondorf (VC), Mario (2k5), BR Match 1 (2k6), BR Match 2 (2k6)
Losses: Link (2k2), Cloud (2k3), Link (2k4), Link (2k5), BR Match 3 (2k6)

Analysis

This is another case of first place being decided and second place being not so decided. This match will also help answer the questions of how much a dedicated fanbase will help in this format and how much of an affect will Super Smash Bros. Brawl will have in this contest.

First place will obviously go to Sephiroth; he is a member of the noble nine and can only really lose to Link and Cloud. The only question for Sephiroth is how high he will get. Well Cloud was able to get 61% in his match, but the match could have been a three-way and he still probably would get the same thing. Though the other two characters Cloud did have to beat are probably stronger than anyone Sephiroth is going against (I know Peach > Jill by 27 votes). I’ll give Sephiroth the percent advantage, but not by much.

Peach is the favorite in taking second, last year she was able to beat down her clone and go toe to toe with Jill until the very end before going down to Tifa. What she got on Tifa was what CATS, the most likely character to upset was able to get on Master Chief despite him having a picture and anti-vote advantage (though to be honest Tifa’s picture was terrible). There is only one thing that is stopping some users from calling her a lock, the lack of a hardcore fanbase. Looking at the favorite Mario characters poll (how many times has this been brought up) Peach didn’t do very well and in a four character poll this could be disastrous for her, not to mention there is another Nintendo character in the poll.

CATS on the other hand has a very hardcore fanbase. While people only vote for him the fad they are very loyal to him and with needing fewer votes to get to the next round this could be good for him and as Sephiroth gets more and more percent the better the chances of him going to the next round. CATS is one of those characters where the picture matters. Not many people recognize the name CATS because in the AYB fad his name is never mentioned. In this match CATS got the best picture he could have hoped for, face CATS.
charmander6000 | Posted 9/10/2007 7:34:26 PM | message detail
I don’t see Meta Knight doing much in this match, but he could tell us how much SSBB will affect the contest. I don’t Meta Knight getting a lot of strength from his game because while Kirby is popular in his own right he’s probably the only character in the game that isn’t pure fodder. Meta Knight still has SSBB hype to help him get some votes, but the question is how much hype from a game will help Meta Knight. While SSBB is the most anticipated game right now on GameFAQs the only way you would know Meta Knight is in the game is if you watched the movie, go to the Smash Bros Dojo or if you have gone to the Brawl board. So maybe there are enough people that know about the game to help Meta Knight not become pure fodder, but he really should have waited before coming to the character battle.

With face CATS and Meta Knight in the poll Peach is going to have some trouble getting out of this round. With such a hardcore fanbase I wouldn’t be surprised if CATS does take the upset. He’ll lead with the board vote, but will Peach make a comeback during the day?

charmander6000’s Bracket: Sephiroth > Peach

charmander6000’s Prediction: Sephiroth - 62.64%, Peach - 14.08%, CATS - 12.80%, Meta Knight - 11.48%

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Master Moltar | Posted 9/10/2007 7:42:19 PM | message detail
Division 3: Round 1 - Match 9 – CATS vs. Meta-Knight vs. Peach vs. Sephiroth

Moltar’s Analysis

CATS
Game/Series Known From: Zero Wing
Seed in 2002: 13
Seed in 2003: 16
Seed in 2004: 16
Seed in 2005: 8
Seed in 2006: 8
Lost in 2002 to Ryu in Round 1
Lost in 2003 to Cloud in Round 1
Lost in 2004 to Link in Round 1
Lost in 2005 to Master Chief in Round 1
Lost in 2006 to Sonic in Round 1

He’s gotta win sooner or later!

Meta-Knight
Game/Series Known From: Kirby

A personal favorite of mine finally gets in!

Peach
Game/Series Known From: Super Mario
Seed in 2006: 8
Lost in 2006 to Tifa in Round 3

Eww.

Sephiroth
Game/Series Known From: Final Fantasy VII
Seed in 2002: 7
Seed in 2003: 2
Seed in 2004: 2
Lost in 2002 to Link in the Final 4
Lost in 2003 to Cloud in the Finals
Lost in 2004 to Cloud in the Elite 8
Lost in 2005 to Link in the Tournament of Champions Finals
Lost in 2006 in Day 3 of the Battle Royale

Ewwwwwww.

Well, this is surely an interesting match. Sure, Sephiroth is a lock to take the #1 spot, but who gets #2?

On one hand, you have Peach. She did respectfully last year, taking out Jill and losing with grace against Tifa. Now here she is in a fourpack that (minus Seph) isn’t all that tough. She may not be the favorite of the Mario characters, but looking at her past matches, and her opponents here, it’s clear to see that she will get some love from Nintendo fans. The big question is that, in a match like this, will it be enough?

On another hand, you have Meta-Knight. A newcomer to the contest scene, but one that people have been wanting to see in action. Now, he finally gets that shot, but the situation he’s in…isn’t too good. Kirby isn’t a no-name franchise, so he should get some support. However, enough to put him in the #2 position?

On the third hand (you know what I’m talking about), you have CATS. GameFAQs favorite joke entry from 2002 returns. Now, usually you would just say “Oh, it’s CATS. I’ll vote for him, but I know he’s going to get slaughtered anyway.” But wait, he has a chance this time! CATS definitely has his own core of fans that always vote for him. Plus, as we’ve seen so far, characters with more dedicated fanbases are doing very well in this format. He’s never gone under 10% in any of his 1 on 1 matches, and save for a couple of oddities (hi Ansem and Master Chief), CATS has always pulled a small chunk of the vote against his opponent, no matter the odds.

So the battle for the 2nd spot is down to Peach and CATS. Now, if Meta-Knight weren’t here, Peach’s chances would look much more peachy (I swear, no pun intended). She needs every vote she can get, because CATS is guaranteed to pull in at the least 10-11%. It should be close between the two, but I think Peach will squeak out the victory. Not sure why, as I have a hard time believing that Peach actually has fans (whhhhhhhhhhhhy people?). I’m guessing she’ll get through due to Nintendo/Mario/potential bracket support.

However, you won’t see me crying if CATS (or Meta-Knight!!!) take #2.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Sephiroth > Peach > CATS > Meta-Knight

Moltar’s Prediction is: Sephiroth: 60% - Peach: 16% - CATS: 14% - Meta-Knight: 10%



Ultimaterializer’s Analysis

I *think* CATS and Sephiroth are the only characters to make every single character battle we've ever had (including villain's contest), but don't quote me on that. Kind of cool that they're up against one another, and this is actually CATS's best opportunity ever to advance. He's good for 15% no matter what the poll is, which is powerful given this style of poll. If Sephiroth garners 75% of the vote and CATS gets his 15%, he's going to advance. Crazy, but true.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/10/2007 7:42:36 PM | message detail
However, there comes the issue of whether Sephiroth will dominate the poll that much. He'll pull at least 60%, but CATS needs a lot more than that to move on. And with Peach and Meta Knight in there (one legitimate Nintendo character and one Brawl avatar slash Kirby villain), the Nintendo backing will be unpredictable, but should be enough to allow Peach to squeak into second place. Peach proved last year that she was no fluke, but she's in a pretty wacky spot here. She more or less has to break 15% to advance here, and may have to rely on the kiddy Nintendo day vote (again) to do so. I don't think Meta Knight is as much of a threat, though I doubt he'll be the pure scrub everyone thinks he's going to be. *Everyone* that plays Kirby games loves Meta Knight, and he might not come in last place here.

Odd poll here. Very very odd. Any of the three remainder characters could conceivably come in second place, but I'm sticking with Peach purely out of fanboyism. But if CATS manages second place, no one could possibly get upset about it. He's the only long-timer contest character left yet to win, what with Gordon finally getting his.

Ulti's Prediction:

Sephiroth [63.00%]
Peach [16.50%]
CATS [12.00%]
Meta Knight [8.50%]



Heroic Mario’s Analysis

Sephiroth -- 62%
CATS -- 15%
Peach -- 13%
Meta-Knight -- 10%


HOW ARE YOU GENTLEMEN ! !

I thought this match was pretty boring at first glance. You’ve got Sephiroth dominating the poll, and then you have Peach coming in second.

But oh no -- not this time!

There’s a key in that that is easy to glance over -- Sephiroth dominating! The more that Sephiroth wins by, the worse it is for everyone else and the better it is for CATS. Doesn’t make sense, does it? Well, if you take into consideration that CATS is always guaranteed that 12 - 15% in every match he’s in, things start coming together.

And really, how many people are going to call Peach their favorite character of this bunch? If you do, think about a testosterone injection -- you may be lacking. Damn girly men. Or maybe you’re just a hardcore SSB freak who needs to shower. Damn alpha losers.

Joking aside, I think CATS can do this. The better Sephiroth does, the better chance CATS has. And then you throw in some split fanbase between Peach and Meta-Knight, and it should all be enough for him to do it.

YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE MAKE YOUR TIME ! !


Bracket: Sephiroth > CATS
Vote: Sephiroth



Yoblazer’s Analysis

You wouldn't tell by looking at all the damn yellow in my bracket, but this match features the first true risk I've taken all contest, and boy is it a doozy. Now, I've been a CATS fan for years, this being evidenced by the fact that he's one of only three contest veterans I've never voted against. Despite my undying love for the lord and master of all Engrish, I've never envisioned myself taking him to beat someone. Until now. With that said, let me try to reinforce my argument here before I start weeping at the sight of my hilariously bad pick.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/10/2007 7:43:31 PM | message detail
Cloud Strife put up 61% against Revolver Ocelot, Jill Valentine, and Midgar Zolom. Thus, I'm hoping the not-quite-as-strong-but-still-a-powerhouse-in-his-own-right Sephiroth can at least manage equally impressive numbers against a trio who many have predicted to be weaker. In addition to Sephiroth and CATS, we have two Nintendo characters - two of the weaker ones, actually. Say hello to Peach from the Super Mario series and Meta Knight from the Kirby series. Peach is the overwhelming favorite to finish second, and I can't say it isn't deserved after her fine overall performance in last year's Character Battle. However, she has also had a history (history = one instance? LOL) of performing terribly in the "Favorite Mario Character" poll, leading many to speculate that she has little hardcore fanbase, a crucial factor to winning matches in this format. Win or lose against CATS, her percentage will still be pretty low, and the fact that Meta Knight will probably hurt her before anyone else doesn't help.

Now that we've gotten the introductions and strengths out of the way, let's go over the meat of this analysis: why in the **** I decided to go with CATS. First of all, CATS, along with the All Your Base fad in general, has been in many polls, and he has never once dipped below 12% of the total vote (against Link, no less). Seeing as how he has his awesome Face CATS picture today, I'm confident to say we could be seeing a better-than-average performance from him. In addition, I'm a firm believer that the better Sephiroth does, the more Peach's chances decrease. If we are to assume that Peach's nonchalant fanbase will abandon her easily for Sephiroth, then CATS and his rabid joke voters may pull it off. It really isn't all that hard to fathom if you ask me. If Sephiroth gets 60% and CATS gets a measly 15%, for example, that leaves Peach and Meta Knight to fight over 25%. If Sephiroth does even better and CATS's fans stay loyal, that makes things even tougher for Peach. It's a gamble, of course, but one that I'm hoping will pay off.

Also, you've got to be out of your ****ing mind if you thought I wouldn't take CATS in a match and format where he actually has some kinda chance. FOR GREAT JUSTICE.

Sephiroth - 61%
CATS - 16%
Peach - 14%
Meta Knight - 9%



Lopen’s Analysis

I think Sephiroth > Peach was called the gimme vote for this... but I don't think it's that obvious. There's something you need to be concerned about, and that's the CATS base. Now this ain't no cheap Zero Wing shill... I'll explain later.

Peach isn't too weak, we saw her do well last contest. But man, I thought she was gonna do bad... just look at those favorite Mario brothers character polls! Peach gets like... 1.2% in them. But yet... she did just peachy in the last contest, I just can't deny that. So... why is that? We've got three possibilities:

1. Peach crumbles in the presence of Mario characters. If that's the case, she doesn't have anything to worry about, and should take second with ease.

2. Peach crumbles in the presence of Nintendo characters. I don't really buy this being the case... but if it is, Meta Knight is gonna kill her.

3. Peach crumbles in the presence of greatness. That is... a truly daunting enemy that has a lot of fans. The whole cast of Super Mario Brothers counts as this. But you know who else does? You got it, Sephiroth!

Choose of third is to be the great of composition. Peach has no chance survive make her time. Meta Knight in beginning not on to be end. Sephiroth test length base two out of three times compressing. CATS base victory last with endure.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/10/2007 7:43:51 PM | message detail
... er... that is.. Peach will fall hard in the presence of greatness, Meta Knight is (sadly) fodder and will also be cut to ribbons. And with Sephiroth kicking so much ass, CATS guaranteed ~15% of the site, that we call his base, it'll get the job done here.

Lopen's prediction:
Sephiroth – 68.32%
CATS – 16.44%
Peach – 12.02%
Meta Knight – 10.22%



Karma Hunter’s Analysis

A rather clear-cut match today... or so it seems. Sephiroth is the plain, obvious, 100% total winner. Despite his kind of disappointing run in the Battle Royale (thanks to Cloud's presence and the unprecedented presence of Snake), there's no Cloud holding him back here. And his opponents range from slightly above the fodder line to just bad fodder.

But where second comes in... that's a bit trickier. Despite the "OMG Ocelot lost to Pac-Man blather than railed on over and over, he still decisively beat out Jill Valentine - Peach's near equal. Noting that Jill is certainly a bigger fan-favorite to RE than Peach is to Mario, I think we can safely say if Ocelot was here he'd be beating Peach today... but he's not. Instead, the one, slim chance we have in store for an upset... is motherfriggin' CATS.

CATS. The ultimate joke entry mainstay, only character to make every single character contest, only character to do so and NEVER win a match. Head-to-head, he'd have no chance against anyone here. But this is 2k7. This is four-way. And if Sephiroth does well enough, CATS's hardcore fanbase has the potential to elevate him over the more wishy-washy Peach fans.

...unfortunately, I can't take the upset over Miss Joke Fodder. Cloud fought tooth and nail to cross the 60% threshold against admittedly stronger competition, Sephiroth would need to exceed that by a ten point margin or more to make me think he's sapping enough votes to give CATS a chance. I can't put faith into that, and even then it's only a chance. With Peach being the lone Nintendo "mainstay" in this match, I'm sure there's a contingent that will keep her afloat here, giving her the edge that Jill didn't.

Karma Hunter's Vote: CATS. Die Joke Fodder Die <_<
Karma Hunter's Krazy Prediction: Sephiroth with 64%, Peach with 18%, CATS with 10%, Meta-Knight with 8%

Ah, crapshoots.

Upset Probability: 45%

Yes, CATS has a good chance of winning, for all the reasons I gave. If Sephiroth crushes as much as some people are expecting... it's nearly assured. And of course don't forget Meta-Knight lol SSBB argh



Transience’s Analysis

I like to call CATS "12%":

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=967
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1313
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1718
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2020
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2523

no matter who he's facing, no matter the format, CATS seems to have a "floor" of 12%. those 12% will vote for him over anything, it seems. of all the characters in this thing, I trust CATS's fanbase more than anybody. they're not going to leave him for Sephiroth or a couple of Nintendo guys, not when they didn't leave him for Cloud or Link in those polls.

so, the question becomes: what percentage does Sephiroth attain?

if Sephiroth can get a high percentage -- think 70% -- I think CATS has a great chance here. Peach and Meta-Knight are going to be splitting votes, though I expect Peach to be getting most of those. Meta-Knight is just two months too early to be a factor in this thing. plus, Peach has constantly had her fanbase questioned -- who cares about Peach? in that famous Mario poll, she got a whopping 3.70% of the vote -- less than Toad or Wario and barely more than Waluigi. the only people that care about Peach are SSBM players and Mario 2ers.
Master Moltar | Posted 9/10/2007 7:44:43 PM | message detail
of course, you can't take that poll *too* seriously because she's competing against the Marioverse. Peach will probably get a good chunk of votes simply for being Nintendo. plus, she's rather iconic. I also thought she did pretty good against Tifa. nothing spectacular, but well-enough that her fanbase didn't completely abandon her when going up against a well-known and popular character.

plus, I question CATS's longevity. his fad is seven years old now and is basically dead. vote totals are at an all-time high. is CATS going to be able to compete with all these new kids voting? I think he'll still manage to get his 12%, but I think Peach is the smart, safe pick. CATS is a cute little upset pick, but too risky for my blood. hopefully he gets a face pic so we see him at his maximum strength, cause I'd love to see him pull it off. that Ansem match remains one of my favourites of all time.

Take off every 'ZIG' !!
All your base belong to CATS
vote for great justice

transience's prediction: Sephiroth - 63.95%, Peach - 17.96%, CATS - 12.00% (aww yeah), Meta-Knight - 7.09%



Crew Consensus: Seph > Peach is the pick here, but you can't blame Seph > CATS for being a popular upset pick.
PortugalTheMann | Posted 9/10/2007 7:45:27 PM | message detail
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 9/10/2007 7:48:30 PM | message detail
Meta Knight WILL WIN!

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TexasAggie | Posted 9/10/2007 7:51:54 PM | message detail
Ganon was already equal to squall before TP. (Or maybe already stronger...Squall loss to Vicnent came before vince got his own game, ganon's came after) Wii fanboyism and TP fanboyism now mean that Ganon>Squall.
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Saxophoninator | Posted 9/10/2007 7:52:34 PM | message detail
CATS rush kekeke
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RPGuy96 | Posted 9/10/2007 7:56:42 PM | message detail
It's a shame Meta-Knight is in the same poll as CATS...I would have liked to see him winning at some point, no matter how briefly, but that's not happening with CATS' board vote.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/10/2007 8:02:40 PM | message detail
Round 1- Division 3 Group A

Characters Involved:

CATS


Summer 2002 Contest
West Division - 13 Seed

Western Round 1 --- Lost to (4) Ryu, 11145 [19.21%] - 46869 [80.79%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 47th Place [13.30%]

Summer 2003 Contest
East Division - 16 Seed

Eastern Round 1 --- Lost to (1) Cloud, 14168 [13.09%] - 94086 [86.91%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 56th Place [13.09%]

Summer 2004 Contest
Hyrule Division - 16 Seed

Hyrule Round 1 --- Lost to (1) Link, 10025 [12.17%] - 72344 [87.83%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 58th Place [12.17%]

Spring 2005 Contest
Triforce Division - 5 Seed

Triforce Round 1 --- Lost to (4) Ansem, 31153 [45.96%] - 36637 [54.04%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 15th Place [19.66%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Flood Division - 8 Seed

Flood Round 1 --- Lost to (1) Master Chief, 29446 [31.17%] - 65022 [68.83%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 49th Place [17.64%]

Summer 2006 Contest
Blast Division - 8 Seed

Blast Round 1 --- Lost to (1) Sonic the Hedgehog, 20925 [19.25%] - 87757 [80.75%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 56th Place [16.25%]


Ah CATS. You have an 0-6 contest record, yet you are more loved than the most popular contest veterans around here. For the first time ever, CATS looks to have a legitimate chance to advance here. And he has his (very old but) very popular internet fad backing him, despite noone actually playing his game. All my votes are belong to CATS.

Meta Knight

The badassed anti-hero of Kirby's series, he's basically to Kirby what Protoman is to Mega Man. He has a cool character design, and an upcoming appearance in the new Smash under his belt, but was sadly wasted in this fourpack. We'll see how he does next year after Smash is released and has a chance to set in.

Princess Peach

Summer 2006 Contest
Limit Division - 2 Seed

Limit Round 1 --- Defeated (7) Daisy, 90611 [83.10%] - 18423 [16.90%]
Limit Semifinal --- Defeated (3) Jill Valentine, 59266 [50.01%] - 59239 [49.99%]
Limit Final --- Lost to (1) Tifa, 41033 [33.95%] - 79830 [66.05%]
Extraapolated Strength --- 20th Place [33.62%]


Mario's damzel in distress makes her second contest appearance and has a great shot at moving on. Last year, she blew out her creepy doppleganger before becoming the second character to beat Jill by 27 votes. She then crapped out as expected against Tifa. She may ride Nintendo power to a small boost, but I can't see her getting out of her low mid-carder status in the near future.

Sephiroth

Summer 2002 Contest
West Division - 7 Seed

Western Round 1 --- Defeated (10) Gabe Logan, 61367 [87.71%] - 8602 [12.29%]
Western Quarterfinal --- Defeated (2) Crash Bandicoot, 53956 [81.52%] - 12235 [18.48%]
Western Semifinal --- Defeated (6) Mega Man, 49172 [50.51%] - 48185 [49.49%]
Western Final --- Defeated (5) Samus Aran, 51177 [52.64%] - 46047 [47.36%]
Final Four --- Lost to (2) Link, 44597 [43.35%] - 58273 [56.65%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 2nd Place [43.35%]

Summer 2003 Contest
South Division - 2 Seed

Southern Round 1 --- Defeated (15) Raziel, 90364 [82.00%] - 19838 [18.00%]
Southern Quarterfinal --- Defeated (10) Max Payne, 89595 [82.67%] - 18786 [17.33%]
Southern Semifinal --- Defeated (6) Alucard, 80539 [72.28%] - 30891 [27.72%]
Southern Final --- Defeated (1) Mario, 76129 [61.60%] - 47458 [38.40%]
Final Four --- Defeated (2) Mega Man, 75979 [61.18%] - 48213 [38.82%]
Finals --- Lost to (1) Cloud, 59865 [48.11%] - 64578 [51.89%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 3rd Place [48.11%]
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/10/2007 8:03:22 PM | message detail
Summer 2004 Contest
Midgar Division - 2 Seed

Midgar Round 1 --- Defeated (15) Sly Cooper, 77605 [86.37%] - 12243 [13.63%]
Midgar Quarterfinal --- Defeated (7) Vivi, 61170 [70.25%] - 25904 [29.75%]
Midgar Semifinal --- Defeated (3) Auron, 55252 [67.70%] - 26356 [32.30%]
Midgar Final --- Lost to (1) Cloud, 40211 [44.00%] - 51179 [56.00%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 3rd Place [42.40%]

Spring 2005 Contest
Jenova Division - 1 Seed

Jenova Round 1 --- Defeated (8) Ramirez, 70458 [83.70%] - 13720 [16.30%]
Jenova Semifinal --- Defeated (4) Vergil, 64294 [78.81%] - 17291 [21.19%]
Jenova Final --- Defeated (2) Liquid Snake, 69599 [75.92%] - 22077 [24.08%]
Final Four --- Defeated (1) Bowser, 57978 [59.55%] - 39385 [40.45%]
Finals --- Defeated (1) Ganondorf, 60193 [58.17%] - 43286 [41.83%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 1st Place [50.00%]

Summer 2005 Contest
Tournament of Champions - 3 Seed

Tournament of Champions Semifinal --- Defeated (4) Mario, 64570 [56.07%] - 50598 [43.93%]
Tournament of Champions Final --- Lost to (1) Link, 53628 [45.06%] - 65397 [54.94%]
Extrapolated Strength --- 3rd Place [45.06%]

Summer 2006 Contest
Battle Royale.

Battle Royale Day 1 --- Outlasted Samus, 26178 [16.43%] - 12335 [7.74%]
Battle Royale Day 2 --- Outlasted Mario, 21116 [14.87%] - 15878 [11.18%]
Battle Royale Day 3 --- Lost to Solid Snake, 22754 [16.79%] - 22810 [16.83%]
Extrapolated Strength --- N/A


Sephiroth makes his triumphant return to the main bracket along with the rest of Clinkerothio and is hoping to tear up some weak characters for the first time since 2004. Despite his nailbiter loss to Snake in the battle royale, there is no doubts about Sephiroth going the distance until he runs smack into Cloud and Link. This is one thing I've missed about the last 2 years, seeing the impending doom on the faces of Clinkeroth's opponents.

Predictions:

This match looks pretty cut and dry. Sephiroth obviously taking first, with Peach coming in second. But one needs to take a closer look to see the whole picture. Exhibit A: Meta Knight. Another Nintendo character, who while not likely to beat Peach outright, will certainly be dragging away some of the Princess' votes. How much could play a key role here, especially with;

Exhibit B: CATS. Yes, CATS. All your base are belong to us CATS. Let's take a brief look at some of CATS' past matches

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1313
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1718

And this multi-poll which took place after the Villain Contest:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2020

It would seem that CATS, no matter what, will always have a core group of people that will vote him over even the most powerful opponents.

So taking these 2 points, you can deduce that CATS' guarenteed minimum 10% coupled with the fact that the Nintendo vote will be split means CATS could reasonably take the win here. A lot of this will depend on how much Sephiroth dominates though. Personally I think Peach has this, but CATS is a serious threat here. No matter how you slice it, it will be close. And Peach may need the day vote to win this one. It should be ugly.

TuRtLe's Prediction: Sephiroth 62%, Peach 15%, CATS 13%, Meta Knight 10%
TuRtLe's Bracket: Sephiroth > Peach
TuRtLe's Vote: Like I said before, all my vote are belong to CATS


TuRtLe
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28/32 in the contest. Next pick: Sephiroth > Peach
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 9/10/2007 8:04:33 PM | message detail
Ryu's lead over Bowser is now double that of Bowser's over Mewtwo. I don't care what everyone says about next round, and drawing too much from this match, but I don't think I could have asked for it to have gone any better.

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trannyscience | Posted 9/10/2007 8:05:53 PM | message detail
I can't wait for this match to start. the NPH is Peach's strongest time and the board vote is CATS's. I seriously think we'll see Sephiroth in third for a few seconds if the old "anti-vote FF7" happens like it always does.
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Janus5000 | Posted 9/10/2007 8:07:49 PM | message detail
Third? You severely underestimate this place.

...Or maybe I overestimate it. Hopefully the former.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/10/2007 8:09:47 PM | message detail
Does Mewtwo get to 25%?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/10/2007 8:11:30 PM | message detail
Also, Sephiroth>Peach>=CATS>Meta-Knight is how I think it goes.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/10/2007 8:11:52 PM | message detail
CATS - 100
Meta-Knight - 86
Peach - 67
Sephiroth - 3
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 9/10/2007 8:12:12 PM | message detail
This match outta be pretty good
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wavedash101 | Posted 9/10/2007 8:12:15 PM | message detail
So where does this place Mewtwo on the contest pecking order?

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Gaddswell | Posted 9/10/2007 8:12:18 PM | message detail
Hopefully.

So, Mewtwo vs Sub Zero. Who wins?
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/10/2007 8:12:18 PM | message detail
Is there anything that can't beat Seph with the board vote?
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CATS/Meta-Knight/Peach/Sephiroth - Bracket: Seph > Peach - Vote: Meta-Knight (28/32)
RPGuy96 | Posted 9/10/2007 8:14:07 PM | message detail
Master Chief?

...As long as he doesn't have bracket support, anyway.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 9/10/2007 8:14:14 PM | message detail
I'm not buying CATS getting into third, sorry, even with his "core fanbase" (read: people who need to update their senses of humour to join us in the year 2007) he is a joke character and I cannot support a joke character getting a victory just on principle.
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trannyscience | Posted 9/10/2007 8:14:58 PM | message detail
you can have all the "principles" you want about a popularity contest, but the fact remains that he's a pretty popular guy that ALWAYS gets his share of votes.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 9/10/2007 8:15:54 PM | message detail
CATS isn't getting into 3rd...

He's getting into 2nd. OHH YEEAH
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Xcarvengerx | Posted 9/10/2007 8:17:24 PM | message detail
BTW, Crash Bandicoot > Phoenix Wright if hardcore fans theory is true.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/10/2007 8:18:01 PM | message detail
If Meta Knight bombs here, I'll call any chance Ike had before completely moot.

TuRtLe
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28/32 in the contest. Next pick: Sephiroth > Peach
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KamikazePotato | Posted 9/10/2007 8:18:06 PM | message detail
...wut
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Xcarvengerx | Posted 9/10/2007 8:19:50 PM | message detail
If Meta Knight bombs here, I'll call any chance Ike had before completely moot.

But there is no Nintendo in that fourpack. And he is up against GFNW, milkduke and some guy.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 9/10/2007 8:20:22 PM | message detail
If Meta Knight bombs here, I'll call any chance Ike had before completely moot.

What about Pit? Since we are talking about characters that got into the contest because of a SSBB boost.
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BDawg | Posted 9/10/2007 8:20:38 PM | message detail
Yeah I can defintely see the parallels of Sephiroth/CATS/Peach/Meta and Duke/Gordon/Ike/Guybrush....oh wait no.
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trannyscience | Posted 9/10/2007 8:21:08 PM | message detail
yeah, I wouldn't relate Meta-Knight and Ike. besides, if you picked Ike solely for his SSBB trailer, it either says something about the GF pack or it says that you think an announcement on that website will boost characters to epic proportions.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/10/2007 8:21:42 PM | message detail
Many of Crash's hardcore fans offed themselves after they realized no more good games for his series would be made after CTR.

A few stragglers remain, but even their hope fades.
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CATS/Meta-Knight/Peach/Sephiroth - Bracket: Seph > Peach - Vote: Meta-Knight (28/32)
Draco1214 | Posted 9/10/2007 8:22:44 PM | message detail
I'm really skeptical about Ike. I don't think his fanbase is all that great, even amongst Fire Emblem fans (anyone know how much FE: Path of Radiance sold?). Basically all he has is SSBB hype.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 9/10/2007 8:23:12 PM | message detail
Yeah I can defintely see the parallels of Sephiroth/CATS/Peach/Meta and Duke/Gordon/Ike/Guybrush....oh wait no.

Pretty much, Ike will be tested and analyzed as he is up against one piece of fodder and two lower-card characters. But because SFF and a "strong" joke character will be present in this match I cannot see good early measurement for Ike.
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