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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 473

MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/9/2007 10:05:47 PM | message detail
Everyones dropping now while Ryu gobbles up the percentage.
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greatone10 | Posted 9/9/2007 10:06:12 PM | message detail
Fox and Wario are actually well known for their games outside SSB. Falcon, not so much.
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/9/2007 10:07:42 PM | message detail
Luigi was the 2. Tifa was the 3.
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Xuxon | Posted 9/9/2007 10:07:54 PM | message detail
Wario is well-known, but well liked? Nope. Fox > Falcon.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/9/2007 10:08:00 PM | message detail
Well, to be fair, he really impressed on both KOS-MOS and Tifa.

Then he went above and beyond any board 8 expectations against Zero, and managed to beat out the no-longer 1-seeded Kirby.

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creativename | Posted 9/9/2007 10:08:06 PM | message detail
Ngamer
creative, I take serious offense at my Kingdom Hearts/Soul Calibur summary being "just wrong"!

Sorry, had no idea that was your summary in question. I just commented on the one particular piece that was quoted, which made it seem like Kingdom Hearts comeback was a big shock. I don't remember the part about people giving up on the day vote comeback.

But cut me some slack, that reaction is also from back in '04.

Sorry, my bad :)


Regarding this match, I agree wither others that almost all (well, that's an exaggeration, but a solid majority) of Toad's votes are coming from Bowser.

Also this confirms what everyone already knew, Mewtwo got totally jobbed by his bracket placement. He's legit.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/9/2007 10:08:16 PM | message detail
Yeah just like how KOS MOS was crippled by MegaMan/Diablo/Arthas during the day.

KOS doesn't have that bad of a day vote, and none of those three have particularly great day votes.

Fox and Wario are actually well known for their games outside SSB. Falcon, not so much.

That's a good thing for Falcon. All of Wario's games together would have a hard time scoring 20% on Falcon's two SSB games. Midna shows us what fate awaits Nintendo characters who aren't in SSB.
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TexasAggie | Posted 9/9/2007 10:09:24 PM | message detail
The seed vote thing isnt a crackpot theory. What happens is that noobs bracket the higher seeds, and then they bracket vote.

That's why im so glad the seeds are gone.
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 9/9/2007 10:10:03 PM | message detail
That's a good thing for Falcon. All of Wario's games together would have a hard time scoring 20% on Falcon's two SSB games. Midna shows us what fate awaits Nintendo characters who aren't in SSB.

Yeah but Falcon is literally just a Nintendo character. He has nothing else going for him and is likely one of the last on most Nintendo fans' list of favorites. Fox and Wario have other things going for them.
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DpObliVion | Posted 9/9/2007 10:11:51 PM | message detail
Ugh, damn it, Bowser! I have my bracket and a fun bracket in the Top 62 but not on the leaderboard yet, both with Bowser > Ryu.

What are the hopes for him coming back? Ryu's getting some good gains here.

Damn, 101 vote gain that time.....

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creativename | Posted 9/9/2007 10:11:53 PM | message detail
I agree that Ryu probably had that one bad year.

On Akuma, I've long believed that people in these topics overrate him. He's no icon like Ryu, Scorpion, or Sub-Zero. We'll see how he does though. This contest might help characters normally hurt by recognizability, like Akuma. But I don't expect him to challenge Aeris there at all.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/9/2007 10:12:20 PM | message detail
But really, who likes Wario?

CF is a complete badass in the Smash games. Everyone knows FALCOOOOOOOOOON PUNCH!

I dunno, I just have a feeling we didn't give Falcon enough consideration there.

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/9/2007 10:12:24 PM | message detail
Hey, I'm voting for Falcon based on his awesomeness in F-Zero GX, and I know I'm not the only one.
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 9/9/2007 10:13:31 PM | message detail
But really, who likes Wario?

Pretty much anyone that likes immature goofballs? And anyone that played Super Mario Land 2 (or the Warioland games).
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paraboxx | Posted 9/9/2007 10:14:08 PM | message detail
Okay, two things.

1) It's a damn shame Mewtwo got sabotaged like this. Same for Zolomy, actually. What a couple of missed opportunities.

2) Speaking of Tifa (and missed opportunities)...where is she? Didn't she almost beat Samus last year, or the year before or whenever it was? I know that was the female bracket's version of Link vs. Cloud or whatever...but still!

Sorry if you've already heard all this before. But they're both on topic now, sort of. So.
creativename | Posted 9/9/2007 10:14:11 PM | message detail
I think I originally had Falcon>Fox in that pack actually.

I eventually changed to Fox>Wario, but I'm not comfortable with that. I could certainly see Falcon beating Wario. Only reason I picked Wario at all was the Wario Ware games. If not for those, I'd have picked Falcon.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/9/2007 10:14:29 PM | message detail
Pico > Falcon

And as much as I love WarioWare, I could care less for Wario. It's looking like Fox gets my vote in that match.
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ZFS | Posted 9/9/2007 10:14:36 PM | message detail
But really, who likes Wario?

I'd wager a number of people like him, especially over someone like Captain Falcon. Honestly, I might consider him a contender for first there. No way does Falcon of all characters beat him -- his association with Mario alone prevents that.

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ejm5446 | Posted 9/9/2007 10:14:40 PM | message detail
Overall Rankings - Votes

87,496 Cloud Strife
70,743 Mega Man
70,546 Samus Aran
64,530 Auron
55,989 Yoshi
47,724 Scorpion
44,524 Marcus Fenix
43,939 Knuckles the Echidna
42,830 Rikku
39,183 Shadow the Hedgehog
38,712 Kefka
32,182 Midna
27,474 Kratos Aurion
25,822 KOS-MOS
25,410 Frog
25,282 Axel
25,256 Revolver Ocelot
24,141 Pyramid Head
22,874 Agent 47
22,614 Tom Nook
22,248 Jill Valentine
21,950 Arthas Menethil
21,603 Diablo
21,338 Chris Redfield
15,164 Zelos Wilder
15,075 Sarah Kerrigan
15,064 Vaan
7,874 Midgar Zolom


Overall Rankings - PCT

61.24% Cloud Strife
51.75% Samus Aran
50.49% Mega Man
43.25% Auron
36.79% Marcus Fenix
36.64% Scorpion
35.48% Yoshi
31.99% Kefka
27.84% Knuckles the Echidna
27.14% Rikku
26.26% Shadow the Hedgehog
24.71% Midna
21.09% Kratos Aurion
18.69% Tom Nook
18.64% Frog
18.55% Axel
18.43% KOS-MOS
17.68% Revolver Ocelot
17.56% Agent 47
16.18% Pyramid Head
15.67% Arthas Menethil
15.57% Jill Valentine
15.42% Diablo
14.30% Chris Redfield
12.53% Zelos Wilder
11.06% Sarah Kerrigan
9.54% Vaan
5.51% Midgar Zolom
greatone10 | Posted 9/9/2007 10:15:32 PM | message detail
I don't know if CF being a badass in SSB is actually going to translate into that many votals, given that he is up against Fox, who is no wuss himself, and actually has a few really popular games to his credit.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/9/2007 10:15:46 PM | message detail
2) Speaking of Tifa (and missed opportunities)...where is she?

If Zolom got 5% in his match, then Tifa should be glad she didn't even get in. She would have gotten like...3% in her match.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/9/2007 10:16:47 PM | message detail
I don't even know who Akuma is. I know he's from Street Fighter, but I don't think I've ever seen him.

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Gaddswell | Posted 9/9/2007 10:17:00 PM | message detail
Holy.... 142 vote gain for Ryu!
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 9/9/2007 10:17:31 PM | message detail
Wow, 45.92% for Ryu that update.
creativename | Posted 9/9/2007 10:18:05 PM | message detail
Regardless, that Fox match is going to be a huge SFF-fest. Too bad Banjo is probably a total chump, else he'd have a shot to win.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/9/2007 10:18:35 PM | message detail
15,075 Sarah Kerrigan
15,064 Vaan


lol vaan

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greatone10 | Posted 9/9/2007 10:19:10 PM | message detail
Banjo is not even going to avoid the SFF fest. He's just as Nintendo as the rest of them, regardless of who actually owns the rights to him.
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ejm5446 | Posted 9/9/2007 10:19:35 PM | message detail
Well, I finally made the leaderboard. Until after today anyway.

Since you're all talking about that match, am I insane for picking Banjo to advance? I see Falcon as a clear fourth.
Haste_2 | Posted 9/9/2007 10:19:46 PM | message detail
Whoa, Ryu, slow down!

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/9/2007 10:19:52 PM | message detail
I don't have any doubt about Fox winning that. His games are popular enough that he has something outside of Smash to help him out. I just keep thinking about Wario and how I can't shake this feeling he's going to screw me there by jobbing to Falcon.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/9/2007 10:20:58 PM | message detail
Yeah, does Banjo even have anything outside of Banjo & Kazooie and Diddy Kong Racing? That match is basically 4 Nintendo characters.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/9/2007 10:21:39 PM | message detail
No Ryu. Stop taking Bowser's percentage and start taking Mewtwo's.

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BDawg | Posted 9/9/2007 10:22:32 PM | message detail
People feel sorry for Mewtwo, hell I feel sorry for Bowser. Mewtwo is holding his arms back, Toad is clinging to his foot while Ryu gets sweet payback. It's alright though, I always cheered Ryu on when he was waging his futile battles with noble niners. The funny thing is Bowser still has a perfectly fine chance to get through round 3 without ever placing first.
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Haste_2 | Posted 9/9/2007 10:24:23 PM | message detail
I (actually) need Ryu to win by a massive amount to give him a good chance at beating Bowser again.

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greatone10 | Posted 9/9/2007 10:24:36 PM | message detail
What is sad is that this would be a close match if not for Toad's existence alone. And without Mewtwo, this would be a slaughter.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/9/2007 10:26:40 PM | message detail
Ryu's lead on Bowser is going to pass Bowser's lead on Mewtwo in a couple updates.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/9/2007 10:26:45 PM | message detail
Wow, I hadn't even checked how much Ryu was gaining. 38% with the whole night vote ahead of him? Bowser is going to need the day vote of his life just to make this look respectable.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/9/2007 10:27:32 PM | message detail
As good as he's doing here, I can't see Ryu advancing past the next round. Although I have a feeling he'll wind up closer to Bowser and Auron than alot of people are willing to give him credit for.

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smitelf | Posted 9/9/2007 10:27:45 PM | message detail
Pretty much anyone that likes immature goofballs? And anyone that played Super Mario Land 2

I remember that awesome game. I wasn't going to vote for Wario, but now that I remember SML2...
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 9/9/2007 10:28:50 PM | message detail
There was no logical reason to have Ryu beat Bowser again next round. I actually have Bowser over Ryu next round.
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Undeniable | Posted 9/9/2007 10:29:17 PM | message detail
YOU MUST DEFEAT SHEN-LONG TO STAND A CHANCE
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smitelf | Posted 9/9/2007 10:30:11 PM | message detail
No way will Ryu advance next round. Bowser's only jobbing because of Toad and Mewtwo. In a "fair" fight, he'll do just fine for himself.
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Keno316 | Posted 9/9/2007 10:30:16 PM | message detail
If Zolom got 5% in his match, then Tifa should be glad she didn't even get in. She would have gotten like...3% in her match.


Umm...wut?
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Xuxon | Posted 9/9/2007 10:31:40 PM | message detail
Ryu's getting farther than Auron and then getting 3rd ahead of Mega Man.
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 9/9/2007 10:32:54 PM | message detail
I remember that awesome game. I wasn't going to vote for Wario, but now that I remember SML2...

Damn straight you better reconsider now that you remember SML2. It was such an amazing game. I loved when Wario had those bunny ears on. And the space level. Ahhhh SML2. Mario done right on the Gameboy.
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 9/9/2007 10:33:42 PM | message detail
No way will Ryu advance next round. Bowser's only jobbing because of Toad and Mewtwo. In a "fair" fight, he'll do just fine for himself.

Let's not get carried away. I still think Ryu will advance, I just don't think he'll get first.
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__hiei__ | Posted 9/9/2007 10:35:50 PM | message detail
First belongs to auron.no one will even get close
MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/9/2007 10:36:55 PM | message detail
I don't know how anyone could not have Auron advancing next round. He has nobody to split votes with and has always seemed the strongest our of the four, as well as having a dedicated fanbase.
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Adept of Aiur | Posted 9/9/2007 10:37:17 PM | message detail
Bowser has that match all locked up if you ask me. Nintendo is too strong on this site right now, and Auron vs Bowser has never been what I would call a lock for Auron in the first place.
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Haste_2 | Posted 9/9/2007 10:38:09 PM | message detail
I hope Ryu can hit 40% or higher through the night... that way probably not even the day vote can get Bowser close to Ryu.

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