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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 469
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/7/2007 6:17:46 PM | message detail |
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I believe it was tranny who said in chart form, kefka matches always look like a big cliff once the day vote hits. --- sig |
| NominateSerge | Posted 9/7/2007 6:18:39 PM | message detail |
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I don't think anybody here had Subby > MC Me and tranny did! I think someone else did, too. Draco, maybe? And no, you never admit to being wrong about that match. You basically say "If it weren't for Armageddon, MC would've won!" That's not admitting to being wrong. --- Vote for Serge. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/7/2007 6:19:08 PM | message detail |
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Time | Kefka . . | Fenix . . | Nook . . | Zelos 01:00 | 34.69% | 33.33% | 18.94% | 13.04% 02:00 | 37.44% | 34.06% | 16.49% | 12.01% 03:00 | 37.67% | 34.18% | 16.15% | 12.00% 04:00 | 37.45% | 33.30% | 17.69% | 11.56% 05:00 | 37.80% | 32.61% | 16.82% | 12.77% 06:00 | 36.79% | 34.34% | 16.94% | 11.93% 07:00 | 32.25% | 33.54% | 20.53% | 13.69% 08:00 | 32.98% | 32.85% | 21.41% | 12.75% 09:00 | 35.14% | 34.67% | 17.55% | 12.64% 10:00 | 35.76% | 34.52% | 17.28% | 12.44% 11:00 | 34.77% | 36.65% | 16.12% | 12.47% 12:00 | 34.89% | 35.92% | 16.80% | 12.39% 13:00 | 34.42% | 37.54% | 16.72% | 11.32% 14:00 | 36.22% | 35.90% | 16.80% | 11.08% 15:00 | 32.08% | 37.13% | 18.16% | 12.63% 16:00 | 28.34% | 39.17% | 20.11% | 12.37% 17:00 | 26.51% | 40.10% | 20.44% | 12.95% 18:00 | 26.43% | 39.69% | 21.20% | 12.69% 19:00 | 26.26% | 40.41% | 20.98% | 12.35% 20:00 | 26.11% | 40.01% | 20.80% | 13.09% 21:00 | 27.14% | 39.72% | 19.09% | 14.05% --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| NominateSerge | Posted 9/7/2007 6:19:50 PM | message detail |
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Whoa, 5 straight hours of Tom Nook getting 20%+ updates! --- Vote for Serge. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/7/2007 6:19:52 PM | message detail |
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O....k. I admitted I was wrong and am now trying to explain a match
that doesn't logically make alot of sense. How is that not admitting I
was wrong? TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/7/2007 6:19:54 PM | message detail |
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I don't think anybody here had Subby > MC I did. Leon did. I'm sure there were others. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| Lady Ashe | Posted 9/7/2007 6:20:08 PM | message detail |
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I would have had it if I hadn't completely blanked on the name Sub-Zero
when filling out my bracket! How the hell I forgot him, I will never
know. =/ ~~~ Ashe. The Cream of Final Fantasy Fanboyism. Embok. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/7/2007 6:20:25 PM | message detail |
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I don't think anybody here had Subby > MC, wtf. dude. I did. RPGuy96 did. --- Today: Kefka > Marcus - Vote: Kefka Tomorrow: Cloud > Ocelot - Vote: Ocelot - Points: 14/16. |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/7/2007 6:20:33 PM | message detail |
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Sub-Zero pick in the house, yo. --- http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/258/cloudvsjillvsocloectvsmfw4.jpg now playing: PW3, Jeanne d'Arc |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/7/2007 6:22:06 PM | message detail |
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heh, I even said in my analysis that Sub had a chance because Scorpion would beat Frog. hmm.. --- http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/258/cloudvsjillvsocloectvsmfw4.jpg now playing: PW3, Jeanne d'Arc |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/7/2007 6:22:17 PM | message detail |
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O....k. I admitted I was wrong and am now trying to explain a match
that doesn't logically make alot of sense. How is that not admitting I
was wrong? made complete sense to me. the guy nearly lost to Donkey Kong. Scorpion at his prime wasn't too far from Donkey Kong. add in the fact that he has a game come out around match time (though, at this point it probably didn't do much but back then that was something else I considered) and there you have it, my least % predicted match. --- Today: Kefka > Marcus - Vote: Kefka Tomorrow: Cloud > Ocelot - Vote: Ocelot - Points: 14/16. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/7/2007 6:23:35 PM | message detail |
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I don't even know why we consider Kuja/MH a "swing" when Kuja was barely ever winning in the first place. Kuja lead for nearly the first half of the match by 500 votes, give or take. That's enough for me to call it a swing, big lead or not. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| NominateSerge | Posted 9/7/2007 6:24:23 PM | message detail |
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Kuja led for maybe 1/4 of the match. Nowhere near half. --- Vote for Serge. |
| GrapefruitKing | Posted 9/7/2007 6:25:41 PM | message detail |
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WHOA... 0______o It's the first time I look at this match since 11 AM... and, wow. I expected Marcus to comeback a bit with the afterschool vote and beat Kefka, but I really didn't expect a 5000-vote swing. Some of these cuts were absolutely insane Marcus vs. Jill will be closer than I expected --- Oracle Challenge - Today's prediction:~ Kefka 31.87% - Marcus 29.94% - Tom Nook 15.48% - Zelos 22.71% ~ Status: Bad. Again |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/7/2007 6:28:54 PM | message detail |
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Heh, I just realized the irony in me defending Frog against Axel fans
by saying "I won't let MY characters ride off peacefully into the
sunset", yet here I am today defending Marcus Fenix against all the
haters. TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/7/2007 6:30:38 PM | message detail |
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I see, it was a lil' over a fourth of the match, but if you're leading
in daylight-hours with several hundred votes then I'm still going to
call it a comeback. He didn't need a lot to come back, but considering
he was behind after several hours of the match and then suddenly
whipped his ass like that? That's nothing short of unfair to deny MH
the title of "comeback." --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| charmander6000 | Posted 9/7/2007 6:38:52 PM | message detail |
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Match VI: Cloud vs Jill vs Zolom vs Ocelot Information Name: Cloud Strife Game/Series From: Final Fantasy VII Past Contests: CB2k2, CB2k3, CB2k4, CB2k5, CB2k6 Wins: Fox (2k2), Pikachu (2k2), Alucard (2k2), CATS (2k3), Auron (2k3), Bowser (2k3), Sonic (2k3), Link (2k3), Sephiroth (2k3), Duke (2k4), Vyse (2k4), Squall (2k4), Sephiroth (2k4), Samus (2k4), BR Match 1 (2k6), BR Match 2 (2k6), BR Match 3 (2k6), BR Match 4 (2k6) Losses: Mario (2k2), Link (2k4), Link (2k5), BR Match 5 (2k6) Name: Jill Valentine Game/Series From: Resident Evil series Past Contests: CB2k2, CB2k3, CB2k4, CB2k6 Wins: Kirby (2k2), Bomberman (2k2), Sheena (2k6) Losses: Link (2k2), Squall (2k3), Ryu Hayabusa (2k4), Peach (2k6) Name: Midgar Zolom Game/Series From: Final Fantasy VII Past Contests: None Wins: N/A Losses: N/A Name: Revolver Ocelot Game/Series From: Metal Gear Solid series Past Contests: VC2k5, CB2k5 Wins: Nemesis (VC), Dr. Wily (VC) Losses: Bowser (VC), Pac-Man (2k5) Analysis Looking at the match you’d think this will be a boring match; all four originated from PS1, the two characters fighting for second have similar voting trends and to top it all off two characters are from the same game. This could work to our advantage because if both Jill and Ocelot start off evenly we could have a close match for the whole day. To start things off Cloud will take the win. Not only is he a part of the noble nine, but he’s the second strongest member of that group. I expect him to break 50% with flying colors and wouldn’t be too surprised if he was pushing for 60%. There is one thing I would like to bring up, fanbase overlap or SFF, not with Zolom, but with Ocelot and maybe Jill. Back in the games contest we saw FFVII beat MGS by much worse than what people expected and a lot of people began to think that since both games were on the same console that they could have SFF each other. Could the same play true for the characters? Well the only character match that something funny could have happen was Sephiroth/Liquid Snake, but even then we don’t know what Liquid’s true strength is. I’m not expecting Cloud to SFF anyone other than Zolom, but it is something that should be pointed out. The real match begins on who gets second, Jill or Ocelot. Jill is the favorite coming into this match because she went toe to toe with Peach last year while Ocelot’s last appearance had him losing to Pac-Man in the first round. Well since then hype for MGS4 has increased and I would give Ocelot the advantage in a multi-character poll because I see MGS fans backing their character more than Resident Evil fans would. Looking at contest histories they both perform very close to each other so if that Pac-Man match never happened people would be hyping this match much more. In a 128 character bracket Board 8 and other boards were able to get a few joke characters in the contest and Midgar Zolom is the first joke character to be in a match. With Cloud in the poll Zolom will get nearly no FFVII votes and will rely entirely on joke votes. This poll will give us an idea on how strong the joke vote is in this contest. Anyway Cloud wins and Jill and Ocelot will have a close match for second. I’m going with Jill, but don’t be surprised if Ocelot takes the match. Also with Ocelot and Jill having similar voting trends if one of the characters gets an early big lead expect the match to be over. charmander6000’s Bracket: Cloud Strife > Jill Valentine charmander6000’s Prediction: Cloud - 58.93%, Jill - 17.62%, Ocelot - 17.36%, Zolom - 6.09% --- The Board 8 BOP - http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB6%20BOP.xls Match 5: Marcus Fenix > Kefka Palazzo Points: 14/16 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/7/2007 6:41:10 PM | message detail |
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Zolom - 58.93%, Cloud - 17.62%, Jill - 17.36%, Ocelot - 6.09% Fixed it for you. --- sig |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/7/2007 6:45:46 PM | message detail |
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charmander6000’s Prediction: Cloud - 58.93%, Jill - 17.62%, Ocelot - 17.36%, Zolom - 6.09% Hate to argue, but given that Cloud >>> Yoshi, Vaan >>> Zolom, and Cloud:Zolom has a much closer connection than Rikku:Vaan...I don't think Zolom is going to get close to 6% after the first hour. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| ejm5446 | Posted 9/7/2007 6:47:24 PM | message detail |
| http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1620 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/7/2007 6:47:55 PM | message detail |
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| ejm5446 | Posted 9/7/2007 6:47:59 PM | message detail |
| Zolom will get the worst percentage so far, guaranteed. |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/7/2007 6:48:02 PM | message detail |
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Vaan >>> Zolom I disagree. Zolom is going to sff cloud into the ground. Wait and see. --- sig |
| trannyscience | Posted 9/7/2007 6:51:09 PM | message detail |
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Zolom's getting 36%, fools! --- http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/258/cloudvsjillvsocloectvsmfw4.jpg now playing: PW3, Jeanne d'Arc |
| Keno316 | Posted 9/7/2007 6:54:09 PM | message detail |
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So...once Zolom wins, how will the brackets look? --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB *Claims KG's Eclair, C.C. & Tear Grants* |
| Evil_REmade | Posted 9/7/2007 6:56:11 PM | message detail |
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So...is it likely that a non-perfect entry gets onto the leader board after this match? --- [=[_] =] Nintendo DS~See double while sober! [+[_]·:·] Wii FC: 7696 5759 3867 0483 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/7/2007 7:08:53 PM | message detail |
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Maybe. I'd be willing to bet a large chunk, if not a good majority of
the 167 current perfects are b8ers, and most people on this board had
kefka winning... I think. --- sig |
| chocoboslayer | Posted 9/7/2007 7:11:40 PM | message detail |
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Vaan >>> Zolom lol wut? --- PotD's OFFICIAL King of Games! The Choco. The Cream of Yuna Fanboyism. |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 9/7/2007 7:25:09 PM | message detail |
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So...is it likely that a non-perfect entry gets onto the leader board after this match? Very likely, I am shocked at how bad the match correct percentages have been lately (though I guess it's understandable if a lot of people didn't read the rules and didn't put characters in finish order). Though statistically there has to be at least a handful of entrants who read the rules, put characters in order, made wise risks and will maintain perfect status for a little while longer. --- Today's Subliminal Thought Is: |
| triviaman | Posted 9/7/2007 7:26:52 PM | message detail |
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you know what the problem is with Zolom? it's not that he's a joke
character - it's that he's a joke that noone outside of Board 8 will
get. most people will simply be a little confused by the Midgar Zolom;
not amused. now the L-Block - there's a joke that almost anyone can get. |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/7/2007 7:26:56 PM | message detail |
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though I guess it's understandable if a lot of people didn't read the rules and didn't put characters in finish order It seemed like common sense to me to put them in order, and I didn't bother reading the rules. I don't think -that- many people screwed up with that. --- sig |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 9/7/2007 7:29:59 PM | message detail |
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I don't know, I look at the match correct percentages and wonder how
that many people are so far down in points. I mean, this early in there
is usually a couple people at the top, a lot near the top and a thin
grouping until the bottom which has a small clump of the 0 brackets. Now we just have a few at top, a small clump near the top and a huge one mid-way down...I'm wondering how it is possible for that to happen and I'm theorizing that many didn't read the rules. --- Today's Subliminal Thought Is: |
| charmander6000 | Posted 9/7/2007 7:30:13 PM | message detail |
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I may have low balled it for Cloud, but I don't think he'll be getting
too much higher and I think joke votes will be enough for Zolom to get
5-6%. --- The Board 8 BOP - http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB6%20BOP.xls Match 5: Marcus Fenix > Kefka Palazzo Points: 14/16 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/7/2007 7:33:14 PM | message detail |
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Round 1- Division 2 Group B Characters Involved Cloud Strife Summer 2002 Contest North Division - 2 Seed Northern Round 1 --- Defeated (15) Fox McCloud, 54643 [74.61%] - 18599 [25.39%] Northern Quarterfinal --- Defeated (7) Pikachu, 59926 [79.51%] - 15445 [20.49%] Northern Semifinal --- Defeated (6) Alucard, 51787 [69.64%] - 22578 [30.36%] Northern Final --- Lost to (1) Mario, 64713 [49.89%] - 64990 [50.11%] Extrapolated Strength --- 8th Place [37.39%] Summer 2003 Contest East Division - 1 Seed Eastern Round 1 --- Defeated (16) CATS, 94086 [86.91%] - 14168 [13.09%] Eastern Quarterfinal --- Defeated (8) Auron, 81716 [72.2%] - 31470 [27.8%] Eastern Semifinal --- Defeated (5) Bowser, 77991 [70.03%] - 33381 [29.97%] Eastern Final --- Defeated (2) Sonic the Hedgehog, 71651 [66.21%] - 36571 [33.79%] Final Four --- Defeated (1) Link, 76199 [51.61%] - 71438 [48.39%] Finals --- Defeated (2) Sephiroth, 64578 [51.89%] - 59865 [48.11%] Extrapolated Strength --- 1st Place [50.00%] Summer 2004 Contest Midgar Division - 1 Seed Midgar Round 1 --- Defeated (16) Duke Nukem, 71329 [80.19%] - 17624 [19.81%] Midgar Quarterfinal --- Defeated (8) Vyse, 74199 [81.41%] - 16947 [18.59%] Midgar Semifinal --- Defeated (4) Squall, 68050 [76.21%] - 21240 [23.79%] Midgar Final --- Defeated (2) Sephiroth, 51179 [56.00%] - 40211 [44.00%] Final Four --- Defeated (2) Samus Aran, 59867 [59.01%] - 41584 [40.99%] Finals --- Lost to (1) Link, 59910 [48.18%] - 64443 [51.82%] Extrapolated Strength --- 2nd Place [48.18%] Summer 2005 Contest Tournament of Champions - 2 Seed Tournament of Champions Semifinal --- Lost to (1) Link, 56724 [47.56%] - 62541 [52.44%] Extrapolated Strength --- 2nd Place [47.56%] Summer 2006 Contest Battle Royale. Battle Royale Day 1 --- Outlasted Samus, 37779 [23.71%] - 12335 [7.74%] Battle Royale Day 2 --- Outlasted Mario, 34454 [24.27%] - 15878 [11.18%] Battle Royale Day 3 --- Outlasted Sephiroth, 32131 [23.70%] - 22754 [16.79%] Battle Royale Day 4 --- Outlasted Solid Snake, 54057 [35.71%] - 29733 [19.64%] Battle Royale Final --- Lost to Link, 70195 [46.07%] - 82165 [53.93%] Extrapolated Strength --- N/A Clinkerothio makes its triumphant return to the main bracket, and first to lay down the beats is Cloud Strife, the eternal #2 of these contests. There isn't much to say about him that hasn't been said before. He's making it to the finals and that's that. Jill Valentine Summer 2002 Contest South Division - 3 Seed Southern Round 1 --- Defeated (14) Kirby, 37539 [53.34%] - 32837 [46.66%] Southern Quarterfinal --- Defeated (6) Bomberman, 37828 [57.97%] - 27432 [42.03%] Southern Semifinal --- Lost to (2) Link, 23342 [27.37%] - 61931 [72.63%] Extrapolated Strength --- 16th Place [27.37%] Summer 2003 Contest North Division - 11 Seed Northern Round 1 --- Lost to (6) Squall, 38274 [40.01%] - 57392 [59.99%] Extrapolated Strength --- 28th Place [24.56%] Summer 2004 Contest Chaos Division - 14 Seed Chaos Round 1 --- Lost to (3) Ryu Hayabusa, 35193 [49.98%] - 35220 [50.02%] Extrapolated Strength --- 37th Place [20.64%] Summer 2006 Contest Limit Division - 3 Seed Limit Round 1 --- Defeated (6) Sheena Fujibayashi, 70699 [62.03%] - 43275 [37.97%] Limit Semifinal --- Lost to (2) Peach, 59239 [49.99%] - 59266 [50.01%] Extrapolated Strength --- 22nd Place [33.61%] Ah Jill Valentine. She'd be the comeback queen if she didn't fall short every damn time. The zombie killing hottie is favoured to take second here, but has her work cut out for her.... again. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/7/2007 7:33:40 PM | message detail |
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Midgar Zolom .....______________ .....|....O......__....O......| .....|___.....<__>...___| ..........|.................| ..........|.................| ..........|.................| ..........|.................| ..........|.................| Hay guys! Vote for me, k? ..........|.................| ..........|.................| ..........|.................| ..........|.................| Will do! Arguably the most hilarious Board 8 rally, Zolom is the giant, overlevelled snake that you pretty much have to avoid on the overworld near the beginning of Final Fantasy 7. The original motive behind nominating him was to see how many people will vote for something just because it is from FF7. With Cloud in this fourpack, it kind of defeats his purpose. Oh well. Revolver Ocelot Spring 2005 Contest Mushroom Division - 3 Seed Mushroom Round 1 --- Defeated (6) Nemesis, 42262 [54.66%] - 35051 [45.34%] Mushroom Semifinal --- Defeated (2) Dr. Wily, 35693 [54.51%] - 29785 [45.49%] Mushroom Final --- Lost to (1) Bowser, 27878 [34.01%] - 54099 [65.99%] Extrapolated Strength --- 5th Place [27.51%] Summer 2005 Contest 20XX Division - 2 Seed 20XX Round 1 --- Lost to (7) Pac Man, 44075 [48.75%] - 46343 [51.25%] Extrapolated Strength --- 43rd Place [19.91%] The one expected to give Jill trouble here, a lot of people are doubting him due to him completely jobbing to Pac-Man in 2k5. Some people are pegging him to do something after Snake impressed last year, but knowing the mechanics of Snake's boost, I can't see him doing much in terms of increasing. Predictions: After the "certainty" of the first 5 matches, we finally arrive at one of the more debated matches pre-contest. You could make arguments for either Jill or Ocelot, but I think Jill's 2k6 showing was impressive enough that she shouldn't have too much trouble here. And Resident Evil getting more releases away from her original PS1 games should help her avoid that oft-seen but never proven PS1 SFF from Cloud. For those that still doubt Jill's chances, I present this: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1991 Yes, the recurring boss from one of Jill's games managed to get 46% on Ocelot BEFORE Resident Evil's rise to popularity. I feel fairly confident in Jill avoiding the sandwiching effect of PS1 SFF from the FF7 and MGS characters. TuRtLe's Prediction: Cloud 63%, Jill 18%, Ocelot 12%, Zolom 7% TuRtLe's Bracket: Cloud > Jill TuRtLe's Vote: ZOLOMY! TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/7/2007 7:35:55 PM | message detail |
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Ocelot with 12%.. lol. you and your horrible ass predictions. --- Today: Kefka > Marcus - Vote: Kefka Tomorrow: Cloud > Ocelot - Vote: Ocelot - Points: 14/16. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/7/2007 7:38:55 PM | message detail |
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Even the percentage for characters advancing, regardless of order, is
extremely low - throughout the other five character battles, the games,
and the villains contests, there have been 27 first round matches with
a prediction percentage under 50% (25 if you don't want to count
villains because it only had 32 entrants). Three of the four matches
thus far have already had an character under 50% for predictions
(KOS-MOS, Frog, and Midna). --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 9/7/2007 7:39:30 PM | message detail |
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Aww yeah... feeling real good about Marcus now in round 2. This is aweeeeeesome. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/7/2007 7:41:09 PM | message detail |
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Marcus has now turned around more votes then mh, making this the biggest comeback ever... I tihnk. Unless there's a bigger one nobody mentioned yet. --- sig |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/7/2007 7:48:09 PM | message detail |
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Ocelot with 12%.. lol. you and your horrible ass predictions. --- Today: Kefka > Marcus - Vote: Kefka Tomorrow: Cloud > Ocelot - Vote: Ocelot - Points: 14/16. lol me and my horrible ass predictions TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/7/2007 7:48:50 PM | message detail |
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Kefka beating Marcus Fenix wasn't exactly crazy. --- Today: Kefka > Marcus - Vote: Kefka Tomorrow: Cloud > Ocelot - Vote: Ocelot - Points: 14/16. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/7/2007 7:50:11 PM | message detail |
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EC knows what's up. Last night I said I'd wait until Fenix showed us
his day vote before drawing any conclusions for next round, but I think
he's showed us that he's enough above Kefka to be a legitimate threat
to Jill. TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/7/2007 8:12:14 PM | message detail |
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Division 2: Round 1 - Match 6 – Cloud Strife vs. Jill Valentine vs. Midgar Zolom vs. Revolver Ocelot Moltar’s Analysis Cloud Game/Series Known From: Final Fantasy VII Seed in 2002: 2 Seed in 2003: 1 Seed in 2004: 1 Lost in 2002 to Mario in the Elite 8. Won the Summer Contest in 2003. Lost in 2004 to Link in the Finals Lost in 2005 to Link in the Tournament of Champions Lost in 2006 to Link in the Final Day of the Battle Royale Looks whose finally back, Mr. Airplane Wing. Jill Game/Series Known From: Resident Evil Seed in 2002: 3 Seed in 2003: 11 Seed in 2004: 14 Seed in 2006: 3 Lost in 2002 to Link in Round 3 Lost in 2003 to Squall in Round 1 Lost in 2004 to Ryu H. in Round 1 Lost in 2006 to Peach in Round 2 With two very close losses in her past, can she turn it around here? Zolom Game/Series Known From: Final Fantasy VII …I said wow. Ocelot Game/Series Known From: Metal Gear Solid Seed in 2005: 2 Lost in 2005 to Pac-Man in Round 1 Justice is served. Good hand-gesturing justice. This is one crazy four-pack. We’ve got two characters from the site’s strongest game, and two characters from series that are SFF food for the series that the other two characters come from. Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid and Resident Evil all have crossed paths in the past, and judging from the results, the food chain is FF > MGS > RE So we get to this match. Well, Cloud is the 2nd strongest character at GameFAQs, so I guess he’ll get first (maybe). Then there’s Zolom, whom Board 8 got into the contest. Can’t believe he’s the next most popular Final Fantasy 7 character behind Cloud, Seph, Vincent and Aeris (am I forgetting someone here? Nah, this looks good). Still, no way Zolom advances, but he’s at least going to get that dedicated Board vote! The real match here is the battle for #2 between Jill and Ocelot. Using the stats, both characters look very funny. This is because Jill is overrated thanks to the female half in 2006, and Ocelot is underrated thanks to Yoshi/Pac-Man SFF. Using 2004 and Villians Contest values, they end up pretty close. So, what do we do now? Well, remember that little order of FF > MGS > RE a few paragraphs up? I’m depending on that for this match. Not only that, but most MGS fans love Ocelot. He has the best chance of standing up to Cloud here (and by that I mean not getting crushed into the ground). Jill isn’t really a huge favorite of RE fans, but she certainly has her backing. It should be close between the two, but I’m banking on Ocelot doing better in this kind of setting than Jill. Moltar’s Bracket Says: Cloud > Ocelot > Jill > Zolom Moltar’s Prediction is: Cloud: 60% - Ocelot: 19% - Jill: 18% - Zolom: 7% Ultimaterializer’s Analysis This is the first real obvious match of the bracket, though Midgar Zolom getting in proves how awesome Sailor Bacon is. CJayC was always against joke nominations getting into bracket, but Sailor not only let them in, but gave some a chance to actually advance. As for the match, it's Cloud > Jill > Ocelot > Zolom. It can't really be spun any other way, though the first minute or so should be interesting. There are locks, mortal locks and metaphysical certitudes --- and it's a metaphysical certitude that Board 8 will have Zolom winning early. The only real upset possibility here is FF7 SFFing RE and MGS so badly that Ocelot and Jill end up being close, thus giving Ocelot a chance to come in second. But even if that happens, I can't imagine Ocelot coming close. Jill Valentine would never lose to Pac-Man, and a four-way poll doesn't help Ocelot get over how far back that loss set him. I can't really back this opinion up with stats or anything, but I think it's obvious enough not to need any. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/7/2007 8:12:42 PM | message detail |
| As a final note, it'll be *damn* hilarious if
Zolom somehow manages to squeak into third place (maybe even second?
<_<) because of the typical odd FF7 SFF that can happen. Cloud [68.25%] Jill Valentine [17.35%] Revolver Ocelot [11.11%] Midgar Zolom [3.29%] Heroic Mario’s Analysis Cloud Strife -- 58% Revolver Ocelot -- 19% Jill Valentine -- 18% Midgar Zolom -- 5% Man, it’s a shame that the Midgar Zolom was put in a match with Cloud. I would’ve liked to see how insane the FFVII fanbase is. You just know he would have actually done pretty respectable if he didn’t have to get SFFed so bad. Sure, he’s a joke on Board 8, but you just know... you just know... you got lucky, Link! Zolom aside, the second place match here is brutal. Choosing between Jill and Ocelot is far harder than it should be. Under normal circumstances, I’d be fine taking Jill and not worrying too much about it, but this format makes everything complicated. The only reason I’m actually taking Ocelot here is because I like him more. Jill is probably the safer bet, but it’s so close that I wouldn’t feel any better going with her. The big problem with Ocelot, though, is that he was only able to pull 55% against Nemesis, who by all rights should be a good deal weaker than Jill. Still, Cloud being here does present problems for Jill, but it presents those same problems for Ocelot, too, I suppose. So yeah, I wanted to go with Jill here, but I didn’t really feel it would’ve been any better a choice. It’s still impossible to say who wins this, so I just stuck with Ocelot as a “gut” pick. Guess we’ll see how it goes. Bracket: Cloud > Ocelot Vote: Ocelot Yoblazer’s Analysis After (dare I say it?) the most unpredictable, exciting start in contest history, one of our two most dominant Character Battle forces is ready to stand, draw his trusty airplane wing, and tell everyone not named Link to shut the **** up. Since 2002, Cloud Strife has amassed himself an amazing set of accomplishments and accolades. He is commonly referred to as the second-strongest entrant, the 2003 Character Battle champion, the only character to defeat Link, and the lone Noble 9er in the YOBLAZER HAS NEVER EVER EVER VOTED FOR YOU club. Simply amazing. Whereas Cloud's status as winner is clear (and watching him will be interesting simply to see how high he can go), the battle for second place is completely up in the air. His opponents are FFVII's Midgar Zolom, Metal Gear Solid's Revolver Ocelot, and Resident Evil's Jill Valentine. While Zolom's place in the bracket must surely bring a smile to many a Board 8er, he is, sadly, completed wasted against Cloud. Who knows, he might have been able to ride his dual joke entry/FFVII status to a surprising result if placed somewhere else, but he's assured nothing but fourth place against his own game's protagonist. Despite this, he may still get some support. For the love of god, just look at him. Ocelot and Jill, on the other hand, each can ride Cloud's coattails into the next round. Unfortunately for me, these two are among my favorite characters, and just picking one is kinda like choosing which child to save and which to feed to the wolves. We've only seen Ocelot in 2005: a few times during the villains contest and once in Character Battle IV. I love the guy to death, but everyone knows those Villains stats are gimped and that his loss to Pac-Man was one of the most disappointing performances ever. People claim his terribly drab, unappealing picture played a large part in his crushing defeat, but guess what; he has a similar picture today. He may have a small following, but I don't think much of it will survive Cloud's cannibalism, and his past results don't do enough for me to pick him here. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/7/2007 8:13:17 PM | message detail |
| The ever-awesome, ever-sexy Jill Valentine, whom I
lovingly call my "Jilly Bean," looks like the better pick to me. Her
contest history strikes me as more impressive than Ocelot's (I doubt he
could practically tie Peach after losing to Pac-Man), her picture is
infinitely more appealing, and my gut tells me her fans won't abandon
her quite as much in the face of Cloud's onslaught. Do it like a bazooka shot to the face, Jilly. Cloud Strife - 59% Jill Valentine - 17% Revolver Ocelot - 15% Midgar Zolom - 9% Lopen’s Analysis Shouldn't Sephy have been stuck with the Zolom? Bah. Anyway, this is a fun little match... "who will Cloud kick the crap out of the least?" Zolom's got the joke vote... but Cloud doesn't like jokes that don't involve moseying, and so the fans of the joke who like Cloud won't like the joke. That guy's done. Ocelot? He loves reloading in battle. How does that translate here? Nothing beats the feeling after the click of slamming your bullet into the hot greased chamber near Ocelot's name. People catch onto that, and will vote Ocelot in turn. Jill Valentine? She makes sandwiches..? The hell? That ain't gonna resist a beating. Cloud can beat your ass while eating a sandwich. Perhaps three, even. Okay, honestly, now. Ocelot and Jill are probably about equal in these contests... with Jill having a bit of an edge as far as impressing. But, but! We've seen FF7 steal tons of fans from MGS, RE, and... itself... in these polls. So "base strength" be damned, this really does come down to who gets beat down the least by Cloud. He will destroy these fools. My money is on him destroying Ocelot the least, because I think Ocelot's appearances in MGS2, The Twin Snakes and especially MGS3 help remove him from Cloud's dominion, the original PS. Granted, one of these is a remake, and two are from the PS2, which probably doesn't help much in the way of dominion removal... but it's better than what Jill has. (MvC2 is it, right?) Lopen's prediction: Cloud – 66.11% Revolver Ocelot – 15.89% Jill Valentine – 11.04% Midgar Zolom – 6.96% Transience’s Analysis this is one of my least favourite matches. the Zolom is absolutely wasted (not that he had much of a chance in the first place.. but to put him in the same division as Cloud?), and the Jill/Ocelot pick is basically worth two rounds in my mind. I think both of them would edge out Kefka or Marcus in round 2, so this pick is actually worth a lot more than just 2 points. obviously, Cloud is going to dominate this poll. Zolom will get his joke votes (but will anybody even get the joke?), and Jill/Ocelot will be left fighting for scraps. there's a good chance that there's a bit of a fanbase overlap there with both hailing from the PS1 (Cloud, too). MGS did beat Resident Evil silly, but MGS is obviously stronger than Ocelot while Jill is from RE2, probably the most hailed PS1 RE title. Jill seems like the stronger character of the two. 50% on Peach is more impressive than 49% on Pac-Man, and Ocelot only managed 55% on Nemesis in the Villains Contest. I'm sure Jill can outdo Nemesis by a good amount. on the other hand, Ocelot seems more like a "fan-favourite" to me, and his fanbase probably won't abandon him in a format like this. I really have no idea which way to go here, but I'm gonna go with strength over a hardcore fanbase. give me Jill. Cloud crushes the field Jill sandwich vs hand gesture sandwich reigns supreme transience's prediction: Cloud - 59.44%, Jill - 17.88%, Ocelot - 16.99%, Midgar Zolom - 5.69% |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/7/2007 8:14:03 PM | message detail |
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Guest’s Analysis - Zylo the Wolf Hi Board 8. This is Zylo the Wolf trying to beat the ”crue” on how the upcoming match with Cloud Strife, Jill Valentine, Revolver Ocelot and our loving Midgar Zolom will go. I won’t give you guys a wall of text so let me analyze each character. Cloud Strife: What have Cloud done in the contest before? For starters, he almost beat Mario in 2002, and in 2003 he won the whole thing. After that, Cloud has always beat the hell out of everyone until he reached Link. Everyone knows that not only will Cloud win this fourpack by far, but he will also get to the final without any trouble at all. I bet that he takes this fourpack with about 64% Jill Valentine: Jill beat Kirby and Bomberman in 2002 (Thanks to REmake just being released) and then outdid Luigi on Squall in 2003. In 2004 she was in one of the best matches of all time with Ryu Hayabusa where it took her two days to just lose with 27 votes. Have CjayC decided to not close the poll at the right time, she would have won that day. She needed the female bracket to get back in the contest where she lost to Peach, again with 27 votes, despite having a +1400 lead at one time. The after school vote wasn’t very nice to her and she lost to Peach, but once again she was close to make an epic comeback. How will she do this year? Revolver Ocelot: I don’t understand why everyone started to like Ocelot after Metal Gear Solid 3? In MGS 1 and 2 he’s a skilled revolverman who has a cool Russian accent. IN MGS 3, he’s much younger, and he no longer sounds like he’s from his Motherland. He also can’t manage to do anything right in that game. Add his lame poses and I have no idea why anyone likes him in MGS 3, when he actually was a interesting villain in MGS 1 and 2. Oh but I should talk about what he have done in the contest. He won over the worst character of all time (Nemesis) and Dr Wily but almost got doubled by Bowser. Then he lost to Pac-Man, will the new format allow him to get past round 1? Midgar Zolom: Final Fantasy VII is my favourite game of all time, and I took me months to realize where this Midgar Zolom comes from after his so popular ascii art reached Board 8. I always catch a chocobo right away and never tries to battle this snake. It’s great to see Midgar Zolom in this match, but one of his opponents are by far one of the worst. 9/10 who even knows who he is will vote for Cloud over him, and the others are from Board 8. Expect Midgar Zolom to set a new record of low vote totals. Tanner will look like a powerhouse compared to this guy.. So the big question about this match is.... Jill or Ocelot? If you ask me, Jill should be the favourite in this match. Forget any kind of stats and see it in this way: Each character in this fourpack had their finest moment on the Playstation. Cloud and Jill are the main characters in two popular games, Ocelot is not even the main villain in Meta l Gear Solid. His chances are not zero, but Cloud beats him, and he doesn’t have any kind of fanbase except for the MGS fans to rely on against any of the others. He should end up above Midgar Zolom, but who knows if he will beat Jill.... Zylo’s Prediction: Cloud: 64% Jill: 20% Ocelot: 13% Midgar Zolom: 3% Crew Consensus: Cloud > Jill is the slight favorite in the Crew over Cloud > Ocelot. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/7/2007 8:18:51 PM | message detail |
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best haiku yet imho --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| HaRRicH | Posted 9/7/2007 8:26:38 PM | message detail |
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Cloud crushes the field Jill sandwich vs hand gesture sandwich reigns supreme IT MUST BE CUT --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| Master Moltar | Posted 9/7/2007 8:30:08 PM | message detail |
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It's not "versus", it's "vs" Like "viss" --- Moltar Status: The Analysis Crew...believe Cloud/Jill/Zolom/Ocelot - Bracket: Cloud > Ocelot - Vote: Ocelot (16/20) |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/7/2007 8:31:24 PM | message detail |
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Who the hell pronounces vs viss? ... --- sig |
