GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 468
| XIII_rocks | Posted 9/7/2007 11:34:06 AM | message detail |
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Because we know Midna's the only newcomer to ever fail to meet our expectations. You know what my point is Just about, but you used a terrible example. Why shouldn't I pick up on that? Actually, use a better example plz =) and you know adjusting characters based off pre-contest expectations is just stupid. And if you don't, there's no point in talking to you, because that's just about the worst idea I've ever heard in my life. There's no reason to just blindly assume Celes is on par with Terra either, it's another character we've never seen before. Your entire argument is based on so much guesswork it's absurd. No, there isn't. But if you presume that Celes is beneath Terra then Tifa absolutely demolishes her WITHOUT SFF. You'll excuse me for thinking that THAT is absurd, no matter how FF6 characters perform. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=34492787 Sign plz "NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU *****!" - Molly Weasley, Deathly Hallows |
| transience | Posted 9/7/2007 11:34:40 AM | message detail |
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well, the point is that it's hard to like the character if they're invisible. Terra is pretty much just "woe is me! I am so screwed" for the entire game. --- "where the heck does diablo get his votes from on weekends? He should be losing because christians are fresh from the church and voting against evil" -voltch |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/7/2007 11:35:16 AM | message detail |
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Give me Sabin or Edgar to do much better, because their characters
are more likable and because people love the Blitz and Tools commands
so they'll be in the party much more. Being interesting definitely doesn't equate to more contest popularity in most cases. I mean just look at who the three strongest characters are, or hell, the majority of the noble nine. Oh yeah, I went there. --- sig |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/7/2007 11:35:16 AM | message detail |
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Terra's a gal after my own heart! --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| transience | Posted 9/7/2007 11:35:17 AM | message detail |
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okay we're arguing FF6 PCs and weak MGS characters see you all next topic! --- "where the heck does diablo get his votes from on weekends? He should be losing because christians are fresh from the church and voting against evil" -voltch |
| lettuce Kefka | Posted 9/7/2007 11:35:42 AM | message detail |
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We should get Locke in one of these contests. He might not suck as much as the others ¬_¬ --- Ahem! There's LETTUCE on my boots! |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 9/7/2007 11:35:49 AM | message detail |
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She doesn't have any And speaking of absurdity...hi. Where you want to place Boss is your business, but she has strength. No debate there. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=34492787 Sign plz "NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU *****!" - Molly Weasley, Deathly Hallows |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/7/2007 11:35:57 AM | message detail |
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It still boggles my mind how a side character in Metal Gear Solid 3 can
beat one of the main characters from FF6. The concept is completely
foreign to me, especially since Boss reminds me of a butch female
trucker. TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 9/7/2007 11:36:06 AM | message detail |
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This is the worst argument I've been in, bar none. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/7/2007 11:36:12 AM | message detail |
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...with this match, what do you expect? *shrug* --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/7/2007 11:36:14 AM | message detail |
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Locke > kefka in '08. Believe! --- sig |
| voltch | Posted 9/7/2007 11:37:22 AM | message detail |
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alright anyone wanna predict how many games MGS4 will sell within the first 6 months of it's release? --- Rufus shinra destroyed my bracket in the sc2k6 contest. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/7/2007 11:37:27 AM | message detail |
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The Boss is a side character in MGS3 about as much as Liquid is a side character in MGS1. She's... not. --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 9/7/2007 11:37:48 AM | message detail |
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This is the worst argument I've been in, bar none. <crazy, ridiculous notion> Try actually arguing. </crazy, ridiculous notion> Or is this just going to boil down to "lol ur a Boss fanboy"? I expected better. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=34492787 Sign plz "NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU *****!" - Molly Weasley, Deathly Hallows |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/7/2007 11:38:09 AM | message detail |
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Okay, so we've got people calling for Edgar/Sabin, Locke and Shadow.... why? Mog is the only untested thing out of that game that will be worth a damn. TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/7/2007 11:38:13 AM | message detail |
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alright anyone wanna predict how many games MGS4 will sell within the first 6 months of it's release? YES I DO THIS IS A MUCH MORE INTERESTING LINE OF CONVERSATION I'LL SAY AS MANY AS THERE ARE PS3'S AT THE TIME --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/7/2007 11:38:59 AM | message detail |
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I'LL SAY AS MANY AS THERE ARE PS3'S AT THE TIME TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 9/7/2007 11:39:11 AM | message detail |
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The Boss is a side character in MGS3 about as much as Liquid is a side character in MGS1. She's... not. In fairness, I know some people who think that every character barring the main character and the out-and-out villain (Volgin) is "side". But the idea of Boss being a side character...big no-no from me. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=34492787 Sign plz "NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU *****!" - Molly Weasley, Deathly Hallows |
| Lopen | Posted 9/7/2007 11:40:07 AM | message detail |
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You can call Cloud, Link, and Sephiroth uninteresting if you want. They
all have much more standout qualities than Terra. And seriously. Blitz
and Tools. That's the kicker, right there. Being in the party more >
"main character" status or even the character being more interesting.
(especially since more interesting is relative anyway) --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 9/7/2007 11:40:44 AM | message detail |
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I support Sabin. If half has many people vote for Sabin as there are people asking "HOW DO I BLITZ?" on forums then he has it in the bag, I think --- This story is not an end yet. Because only you are in the infinity loop. |
| Cecil XIX | Posted 9/7/2007 11:40:48 AM | message detail |
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dragoontheguy Posted 9/7/2007 2:35:16 PM Being interesting definitely doesn't equate to more contest popularity in most cases. I mean just look at who the three strongest characters are, or hell, the majority of the noble nine. Oh yeah, I went there. Truth. Snake and Sonic have the most personality of anyone in the Noble Nine, and they've been the weakest for a while now. --- Wow, an intelligent criticism of Zeta. Never thought I'd see the day. - AmuroNT1 |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/7/2007 11:40:55 AM | message detail |
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The thing about the way ffvi presents its ensemble cast is that there's
literally no character which the majority of ffvi fans consider the
best, and therefore it's impossible for any of them to have any real
strength. --- sig |
| Keno316 | Posted 9/7/2007 11:40:56 AM | message detail |
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Weak MGS/FF6 contests? I'd take Johnny Sakaki over Umaro any day of the week! --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB *Claims KG's Eclair, C.C. & Tear Grants* |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 9/7/2007 11:42:02 AM | message detail |
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They all have much more standout qualities than Terra. Cloud and Sephiroth yeah, but...Link? Really? I know it's a popularity contest but the idea of Link (and even Mario) being beastly in these still rankles with me. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=34492787 Sign plz "NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU *****!" - Molly Weasley, Deathly Hallows |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 9/7/2007 11:42:54 AM | message detail |
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Mario is all like "WHOO HOO" and "IT'S-A ME" which is more than I can say for Terra "HERE WE GO" --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/7/2007 11:42:55 AM | message detail |
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Random final fantasy vi villager vs. generic metal gear solid enemy. Worded exactly like that, which would win in a poll? --- sig |
| Lopen | Posted 9/7/2007 11:43:22 AM | message detail |
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Yes, Link. I don't like Link either, but unbiasedly he's got a ton of
standout factors going for him, even if he has "no personality." --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 9/7/2007 11:43:24 AM | message detail |
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Lead under 500, btw. Fenix has been steadily cutting away at Kefka for
the last few updates, though he isn't being ridiculous like Axel was at
times. That said, if he's making 25 vote-ish cuts NOW... --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=34492787 Sign plz "NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU *****!" - Molly Weasley, Deathly Hallows |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 9/7/2007 11:43:59 AM | message detail |
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Yes, Link. I don't like Link either, but unbiasedly he's got a ton
of standout factors going for him, even if he has "no personality." Pointed ears? --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=34492787 Sign plz "NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU *****!" - Molly Weasley, Deathly Hallows |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/7/2007 11:44:41 AM | message detail |
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he's got a ton of standout factors going for him, As a huge LoZ fan, I disagree completely. Unless resembling an elf, and carrying a sword count as stand out factors. --- sig |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 9/7/2007 11:44:51 AM | message detail |
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The sad thing is that Kefka was losing ground when school was still in. His only hope is winning the after-school vote. ...That's a pretty bad thing to hope for --- This story is not an end yet. Because only you are in the infinity loop. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/7/2007 11:45:23 AM | message detail |
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Look at Vivi. Everything else from his game has sucked ass. He gets by on his likability and the fact that he's a black mage, Mog is a badass AND has the iconicness behind him. TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Keno316 | Posted 9/7/2007 11:47:09 AM | message detail |
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Man, Marcus is just on a TEAR now... --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB *Claims KG's Eclair, C.C. & Tear Grants* |
| Lopen | Posted 9/7/2007 11:47:36 AM | message detail |
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Well, his design is good. Aside from that it just comes down to being
the guy you're forced to use in every Zelda game, which is a pretty
damned fierce standout factor. You're not forced to use Terra, and
frankly no one cares if someone's the main character because they're
"the main character." They care that someone's the main character
because usually that's who you have to use and hence you get some
attachment to them when playing through the game, just by using them. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 9/7/2007 11:47:42 AM | message detail |
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Mog is the only FF6 character I want in, just to see if the whole
Moogle thing has any credence whatsoever. If (when?) he bombs, just ban
every character except MAYBE Kefka from GameFAQs. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=34492787 Sign plz "NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU *****!" - Molly Weasley, Deathly Hallows |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/7/2007 11:48:04 AM | message detail |
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Even with a lead of 500 at 3PM eastern, marcus doesn't even need to average a gain of three votes an update to win. Not that those averages mean much of anything, and I hate to bring them up since updates are never consistent for that long, but it goes to show marcus still has all the time in the world to take this, so stalls aren't going to really help kefka. --- sig |
| lettuce Kefka | Posted 9/7/2007 11:48:57 AM | message detail |
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Do you guys think Cloud would be as Strong as he is if you could switch him out of the party when you wanted? --- Ahem! There's LETTUCE on my boots! |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/7/2007 11:49:59 AM | message detail |
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Switch him out at any time from the start of the game, or more like a Chrono Trigger thing? --- sig |
| Lopen | Posted 9/7/2007 11:50:23 AM | message detail |
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And hence that is why that Sabin and Edgar with their badass Blitz and
Tools, being the ones who will be in the average player's party the
most because of this, will be the strongest FFVI reps. That's my point,
here. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/7/2007 11:50:33 AM | message detail |
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Also, would he always be kept in the party by default? --- sig |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 9/7/2007 11:50:35 AM | message detail |
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Well... Cloud also has the advantage of easily being the strongest
party member bar-none. Even if you could switch him out, I don't think
many people would. Terra's statistical advantages are far less obvious. Plus she leaves for one of the more interesting portions of the early game. --- This story is not an end yet. Because only you are in the infinity loop. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 9/7/2007 11:50:36 AM | message detail |
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I'm still quite interested to see what happens with Nook, Zelos, and
Fenix (percentages, not lead changes obviously), but I think we can all
agree that Kefka is going to start plummeting very soon. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/7/2007 11:51:55 AM | message detail |
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And hence that is why that Sabin and Edgar with their badass Blitz
and Tools, being the ones who will be in the average player's party the
most because of this, will be the strongest FFVI reps. That's my point,
here. The average player isn't going to care enough to figure out what characters they can abuse the game mechanics with/are stronger unless it's really obvious. --- sig |
| lettuce Kefka | Posted 9/7/2007 11:52:02 AM | message detail |
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Like on the party select screen you could swap Cloud out of your party if there were any spare characters. --- Ahem! There's LETTUCE on my boots! |
| The n00b Avenger | Posted 9/7/2007 11:52:55 AM | message detail |
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The average player isn't going to care enough to figure out what
characters they can abuse the game mechanics with/are stronger unless
it's really obvious. Sabin and Edgar's advantages are extremely obvious though. You'd probably have a hard time finding someone who didn't use the Figaro brothers after they could form their own free party after Terra leaves. They're just overpowered at that portion of the game. --- This story is not an end yet. Because only you are in the infinity loop. |
| Lopen | Posted 9/7/2007 11:53:08 AM | message detail |
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Well, seeing as the game forces them into your party very early, and
you see that Autocrossbow and Fire Dance outdamage anything you can
dish out when you get them, I'd say it's pretty damned obvious. --- "GUYS I JUST DRANK A MASTER CHIEF SODA, MASTER CHIEF FOR 2007!" - Swirldude |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/7/2007 11:53:20 AM | message detail |
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From PortugalTheMann Posted 9/7/2007 2:36:06 PM #309 This is the worst argument I've been in, bar none. It's XIII, who backs up "<crazy, ridiculous notion> Try actually arguing." with "Where you want to place Boss is your business, but she has strength. No debate there." And Tifa's match with Samus last year was legit. Awesome evidence. ~*ST*~ --- Petition for a system notification when a contribution is removed: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=37308859 |
| MnMZero | Posted 9/7/2007 11:53:34 AM | message detail |
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Ugh, we're at over 70000 votes... I can't believe such miniscule vote
swings have been happening for this match with that large a number of
total votes. --- Proud Supporter of Zero |
| dragoontheguy | Posted 9/7/2007 11:53:35 AM | message detail |
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Like on the party select screen you could swap Cloud out of your party if there were any spare characters. Then no, I don't think he would be weaker, since he's already established as the lead by the time you can swap characters, and stays that way, outside the point of the game which I won't name but should be obvious. --- sig |
| Dark Silvergun | Posted 9/7/2007 11:54:36 AM | message detail |
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Hm, last two updates: Kefka: 25182, 25348 Marcus: 24737, 24908 Difference: 445, 440 --- Warning, the self-destruct system has been activated, all personnel should evacuate immediately, 5 minutes to detonation. |
