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Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/6/2007 11:31:07 AM | message detail
Actually, I'm almost certain that ToS is killing Midna here.

Think about it. ToS has a super-dedicated fanbase. ToS has similarities to Zelda, I can see it having the same fanbase.

Dedicated fanbase+SFF=ouch. OK, not TOTAL SFF, but Midna would probably be about equal to Scorpion.

Gogogo Zelos, make me proud, hunny! <3
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Keno316 | Posted 9/6/2007 11:33:59 AM | message detail
Dedicated fanbase+SFF=ouch. OK, not TOTAL SFF, but Midna would probably be about equal to Scorpion.


I seriously, SERIOUSLY doubt that TOS is siphoning 10k votes from Midna.

I don't even think TOS is a factor is. If it is...2, maybe 3% factor at most. But no where enough to put her close to Scorpion.
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MnMZero | Posted 9/6/2007 11:36:14 AM | message detail
Marcus Fenix is going to SFF Kefka guys. You heard it hear first. Fenix = Fenix Down, which is what Phoenix Downs were called in the SNES version of FFIII/VI. Everyone knows that Phoenix Downs are more popular than Kefka, so Marcus will definitely benefit from that. He's got that match in the bag!
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/6/2007 11:41:03 AM | message detail
People who pick Fenix really need to consider the following:

X-BOX Shooter character.
Unpopular console on GameFAQs.
Random Hero Factor.
NOT. AN. ICON. Master Chief is, hence he does decently.
His game got less than Kratos is getting now by two thousand in the race for game of the year.
His game is mainly only popular for the Multiplayer.
He isn't recognizable at all within the game.
Nor is his name.
The Anti Voting of X-BOX dudes.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/6/2007 11:42:24 AM | message detail
You're telling me that Kratos peeps wouldn't vote for Midna if he weren't here? Who else would they vote for?

I see Midna appealing the most to them.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 9/6/2007 11:43:48 AM | message detail
So, Gears of War fans won't recognize him, but people who don't own an XBox will and hence will antivote him?

And, mnm, you forgot that Tom Nook is the only Nintendo option so he gets half the vote automatically.
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neonreaper | Posted 9/6/2007 11:44:32 AM | message detail
His game is mainly only popular for the Multiplayer.
He isn't recognizable at all within the game.
Nor is his name.


The first one has some merit but not entirely, as the single player is very well done. The second two are garbage points.
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transience | Posted 9/6/2007 11:44:55 AM | message detail
Fenix is so unpredictable. I love it.
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Xcarvengerx | Posted 9/6/2007 11:45:42 AM | message detail
Unpopular console on GameFAQs.
Not anymore since PS3 flop.

His game got less than Kratos is getting now by two thousand in the race for game of the year.
Where is this?

His game is mainly only popular for the Multiplayer.
Rallies potential?

He isn't recognizable at all within the game.
Face box shot pic.

Nor is his name.
Nor Agent 47.

The Anti Voting of X-BOX dudes.
And Anti Zelos?

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Keno316 | Posted 9/6/2007 11:46:37 AM | message detail
Probably a split between votes to Midna and to Scorpion.


...I'm not saying that Kratos fans wouldn't vote for Midna. Most votes would probably go to her. However, I doubt it'd be enough to bring Midna close to Scorpion.



However, if this IS Midna, A ZELDA character, getting SFF by Tales of Symphonia...then she's gonna end up looking like Vaan when they throw Samus into the equation.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 9/6/2007 11:52:37 AM | message detail
Remember that when Sephiroth dropped out of the Battle Royale, Cloud only got 70% of his votes. That's a great deal more than his share (40/35/25 sounds like a decent estimate for Link/Cloud/Snake if distribution was based solely on strength), but even in a case where the fanbase seems to overlap almost perfectly, it was nowhere near 100%. I *really* don't think Kratos is affecting Midna much at all.
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voltch | Posted 9/6/2007 11:56:10 AM | message detail
so we finally something of a boring match?
and i bet it's the one that killed most of the expert's perfect brackets.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/6/2007 12:04:14 PM | message detail
He isn't recognizable at all within the game.
Face box shot pic.


Snap. This I did not know, I do not have your crazy box-art. lol PAL.

My other points remain valid, however.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/6/2007 12:09:41 PM | message detail
Only a very small part of the ToS fanbase is Anti-Zelos, a ridiculous amount of GameFAQs is anti-XBOX.

However, I concede that they would probably not know Fenix anyway. However, they still wouldn't vote for him.

Finally, I see Zelos taking the Kiddy vote. Fenix is in a game rated 18/M/whatever. He isn't exactly widespread news like Snake, Chief or even Leon, either. Zelos is a hot anime-looking character.
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neonreaper | Posted 9/6/2007 12:10:51 PM | message detail
do you want to fight
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/6/2007 12:11:58 PM | message detail
Zelos is only the fourth most popular character in his game. That's not enough to beat the main character of a much more popular game, really.
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Keno316 | Posted 9/6/2007 12:12:47 PM | message detail
I thought Zelos was second most popular. >>
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/6/2007 12:14:33 PM | message detail
why are anti-votes still an issue in this format? I don't get it.
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ZFS | Posted 9/6/2007 12:14:53 PM | message detail
ToS has similarities to Zelda, I can see it having the same fanbase.

no

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Gaddswell | Posted 9/6/2007 12:16:20 PM | message detail
I would say Kratos > Sheena = Zelos in terms of popularity in the ToS fanbase.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/6/2007 12:17:52 PM | message detail
Fourth? Zelos is second. He would beat out Sheena, that's for sure.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/6/2007 12:18:50 PM | message detail
Random Hero factor is going to KILL Fenix.

Book it.
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transience | Posted 9/6/2007 12:18:52 PM | message detail
no
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transience | Posted 9/6/2007 12:19:15 PM | message detail
no to that one too

whatever you're gonna post next, i'm probably going to say "no" to as well
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Keno316 | Posted 9/6/2007 12:19:27 PM | message detail
Zelos won 3rd place in the Tales popularity contest 2 years ago, only losing to Leon and Kratos. Sheena wasn't even in the poll.


And the miniature poll held at the US Tales Namco forum had Zelos winning highest Symphonia character over even Kratos.


I don't think Sheena's more popular than him.
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Gaddswell | Posted 9/6/2007 12:21:30 PM | message detail
Kratos just spiked in both of the last updates. Afterschool vote?
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transience | Posted 9/6/2007 12:21:40 PM | message detail
I can't think of a single thing Zelos has on Sheena.

though it doesn't really matter -- they're all going to get about the same percentage, 15-20%. if Kefka can suck up enough votes for that to be second place, then he's got a chance. I can't see Kefka dominating a poll, though. no way.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/6/2007 12:23:22 PM | message detail
Zelos also won't have Midna slowing him down like Kratos does now. I remain unconvinced in the existence of genre SFF, so I am sure that Zelos is going through.
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ZFS | Posted 9/6/2007 12:24:03 PM | message detail
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ZFS | Posted 9/6/2007 12:25:00 PM | message detail
And the miniature poll held at the US Tales Namco forum had Zelos winning highest Symphonia character over even Kratos.

A quick Google search brings us to this:

Kratos 27%
Sheena 14%
Zelos 13%
Lloyd 11%
Presea 10%
Genis 7%
Colette 5%
Raine 4%
Regal 4%

Total Votes : 1393

( http://tales.namco.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1145&sid=59cd29f3b6403d8cf6be88e3b58a5cc7 )

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Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/6/2007 12:26:35 PM | message detail
That's opinion, Tranny. And I can name many. Humour, backstory, tragedy, quotations, appearance(not factoring in BOOBS, of course.), even in-game ability.

And I did a quick search, the Tales forum knows about the contest.
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ZFS | Posted 9/6/2007 12:27:48 PM | message detail
appearance

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/1/19/Zelos_Wilder.jpg

no

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transience | Posted 9/6/2007 12:29:09 PM | message detail
Zelos is Kuja-tier when it comes to appearance. maybe you like yaoi, but most people don't.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 9/6/2007 12:29:41 PM | message detail
Also. Fenix is losing to Kefka and ending up in second. Book it.
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Keno316 | Posted 9/6/2007 12:31:02 PM | message detail
http://tales.namco.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1145&sid=59cd29f3b6403d8cf6be88e3b58a5cc7


The one I was talking about was the one that took into account ALL the Tales characters. Not just Symphonia. It was one that Luke won.
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The Real Truth | Posted 9/6/2007 12:31:23 PM | message detail
I HATED Sheena. Talk about a broken recrod.
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Keno316 | Posted 9/6/2007 12:34:25 PM | message detail
I liked Sheena...though she wasn't my favorite female character...
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ZFS | Posted 9/6/2007 12:34:26 PM | message detail
Well, it doesn't particularly matter which poll it is. The Tales characters are going to get a certain percentage each time -- one isn't going to do dramatically better than the other, especially when Kratos is the best the series can offer. Unless second place is hovering around 20%, or Marcus Fenix is just really weak, I can't see Zelos doing much in this next one. He'll take a Kratos-esque third.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/6/2007 12:38:13 PM | message detail
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Keno316 | Posted 9/6/2007 12:40:23 PM | message detail
Was there really any way to prove exactly how many of those votes came from the scripts and counted in the first place?
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XIII_rocks | Posted 9/6/2007 12:47:01 PM | message detail
No, but the idea the only "2 or 3" people fell for it is completely absurd. Besides, that's not even the point. He apparently doesn't mind the whole script deal in the first place.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/6/2007 12:48:33 PM | message detail
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TimJab | Posted 9/6/2007 12:54:42 PM | message detail
I'm just gonna assume a bunch of people saved their votes.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/6/2007 1:03:26 PM | message detail
Ulti, tell me.

How did you find out how searched Midna is for Hentai again? I am intrigued.
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redrocket | Posted 9/6/2007 1:04:02 PM | message detail
lol agent 47
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TimJab | Posted 9/6/2007 1:04:05 PM | message detail
lol
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 9/6/2007 1:04:20 PM | message detail
Her section on *spoilers* is pretty huge, considering her recency. And almost all of that is Imp form.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/6/2007 1:06:06 PM | message detail
From TimJab Posted 9/6/2007 3:54:42 PM #443
I'm just gonna assume a bunch of people saved their votes.

Who on Board 8 saves their vote until the end? Most vote in the first few seconds.

From Lightning Strikes Posted 9/6/2007 4:03:26 PM #444
Ulti, tell me.

How did you find out how searched Midna is for Hentai again? I am intrigued.


Sure, IM me. Not going to post my friend's AIM handle in public.

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linkhatesganon | Posted 9/6/2007 1:10:18 PM | message detail
SHEENA IS EASILY BEST TOS CHARACTER. BOOK IT
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TimJab | Posted 9/6/2007 1:12:39 PM | message detail
I voted for Frog at 11:44.
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