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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 458

emanresU weN | Posted 9/4/2007 5:57:22 AM | message detail
Why the hell did I switch from KOS MOS to Diablo at the last minute? I remember looking at the four pack, seeing two Blizzard characters and instantly choosing KOS MOS. I don't know what my rational for switching to Diablo was, ah well this is fun anyways. Hopefully Arthas can get a bit closer to make this exciting.
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xp1337 | Posted 9/4/2007 6:02:50 AM | message detail
Aww yeah...

Warcraft again screws with CSD's predictions.

So, I might be wrong with MM > Arthas.

But to me this like my Warcraft > GTA pick all over again.

=)

I warned you guys! I warned you the day the bracket came back! I even told you it'd be a Tuesday! (Though the lack of maintenance kind of negated that)
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xp1337 | Posted 9/4/2007 6:04:36 AM | message detail
Every Arthas cut is pure gold.

As far as I'm concerned, 3rd place is a victory; but damn if he can give KOS a scare I'll be so giddy.

This is the perfect "day before school starts" present. =)
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CC2680 | Posted 9/4/2007 6:06:40 AM | message detail
The pact is sealed
charmander6000 | Posted 9/4/2007 6:06:57 AM | message detail
Starting from the peak of KOS-MOS's lead (1470) Arthas has been able to cut 7 votes an update, and will break even by 11pm PST (or two hours after the match has ended.)
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Match 2: Mega Man > KOS-MOS Points: 4/4
xp1337 | Posted 9/4/2007 6:08:18 AM | message detail
Starting from the peak of KOS-MOS's lead (1470) Arthas has been able to cut 7 votes an update, and will break even by 11pm PST (or two hours after the match has ended.)

Oh, he's cutting a bit more now.

At least if the last two updates were any indication.

Though only 2 updates isn't enough for me to call an incoming trend. It is encouraging though.
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/4/2007 6:09:24 AM | message detail
Just as I finish that Diablo makes another big cut.
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Match 2: Mega Man > KOS-MOS Points: 4/4
ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/4/2007 6:09:26 AM | message detail
....if Arthas is able to overtake KOS MOS with Diablo syphoning votes off him... it will be absolutely ****in' legendary.
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xp1337 | Posted 9/4/2007 6:10:08 AM | message detail
....if Arthas is able to overtake KOS MOS with Diablo syphoning votes off him... it will be absolutely ****in' legendary.

I said it in the last one, but...

FROSTMOURNE HUNGERS... FOR VOTES!
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/4/2007 6:11:37 AM | message detail
>.>

COME ON KOS MOS SERIOUSLY I LOOKED BRILLIANT WITH THIS ONE, DAMNIT.
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emanresU weN | Posted 9/4/2007 6:12:37 AM | message detail
No cut there.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 9/4/2007 6:15:33 AM | message detail
This contest is going to get so very interesting with SFF being such a high factor in every match-up.
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transience | Posted 9/4/2007 6:19:20 AM | message detail
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=534914&topic=38010412

heh, there's your rally.
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xp1337 | Posted 9/4/2007 6:19:20 AM | message detail
WTF KOS_MOS?

Where'd this come from? =(
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xp1337 | Posted 9/4/2007 6:27:56 AM | message detail
I'm too lazy to check myself, but is this KOS-MOS surging or Arthas dropping off?
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/4/2007 6:28:16 AM | message detail
Lol Diablo cut into Arthas' lead
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Match 2: Mega Man > KOS-MOS Points: 4/4
JustForFun1988 | Posted 9/4/2007 6:29:35 AM | message detail
KOS MOS went from 1412 to 1468 in the last 15 mins.

Knuckles yesterday already managed to cut Rikku leads by 100 at this time, not looking too good for Arthas.
charmander6000 | Posted 9/4/2007 6:30:10 AM | message detail
She was pretty constant until the last update.
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Match 2: Mega Man > KOS-MOS Points: 4/4
transience | Posted 9/4/2007 6:34:20 AM | message detail
heh, wow. 1500 vote lead just like that.
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shadow8021 | Posted 9/4/2007 6:35:21 AM | message detail
Wow, I'm really glad I switched now!

What does Arthas' performance today signify for Thrall later on?

Is it too early to start a Th-RALLY? lololololololololol
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RPGuy96 | Posted 9/4/2007 6:36:22 AM | message detail
1500, and she'll continue to gain until 3 PM EST or so. KOS-MOS is pretty safe here, but Arthas will make a run for it before it's all said and done. Like Rikku, Arthas definitely deserves a lot of credit for this showing.
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xp1337 | Posted 9/4/2007 6:38:29 AM | message detail
At least Arthas threw up a stall, that was getting anticlimactic.

I mean, I fully expect KOS-MOS to hold on when all is said and done, but I'd like to at least see Arthas give her a scare.
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/4/2007 6:40:03 AM | message detail
*Looks at bracket*

Hmmm I have Ganondorf > Ratchet.
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Match 2: Mega Man > KOS-MOS Points: 4/4
AmazingKirby | Posted 9/4/2007 6:40:50 AM | message detail
I have Ganondorf > Vergil. Uh-oh...
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Djungelurban | Posted 9/4/2007 6:41:25 AM | message detail
I'm thinking that MegaMan is eating away at Arthas chances of making a splash with the day vote. Ever since the "start" of the day vote he's been increasing his vote percentage and that's not something clear cut winners usually do this late in the day. Had Yoshi been today instead of MegaMan I think Arthas would have overtaken KOS-MOS by now.
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xp1337 | Posted 9/4/2007 6:43:03 AM | message detail
Holy ****, KOS-MOS is all of a sudden returning to her performance from the first hour.

THIS IS MADNESS!
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transience | Posted 9/4/2007 6:44:03 AM | message detail
hey RPGuy, can you post your hourly splits?
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charmander6000 | Posted 9/4/2007 6:44:52 AM | message detail
THIS IS MADNESS!

^_^

This is GAMEFAQS!
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Match 2: Mega Man > KOS-MOS Points: 4/4
The n00b Avenger | Posted 9/4/2007 6:45:25 AM | message detail
Seems like the morning vote is dying down.

Things will probably look grim for Arthas until school lets out
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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/4/2007 6:46:19 AM | message detail
KOS-MOS should be able to enjoy at least a few more hours of this. I'm not hoping for a miracle lead - just 1700+. That would force Arthas to outperform Knuckles with much less time and many fewer votes. Think you're up to the challenge, Blizzard?
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/4/2007 6:47:31 AM | message detail
Alright, KOS-MOS is holding up. Looking really good to take 2nd.

Man, Arthas is really impressing me. I didn't think the two characters I would have pegged in this match would be KOS-MOS and Diablo. Take about 6% away from Arthas and give it to Mega Man and that was my prediction.

Speaking of Diablo, multi-poll bomba confirmed.
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Arthas/Diablo/KOS-MOS/Mega Man - Bracket: Mega Man > KOS-MOS - Vote: Mega Man (4/4)
YoAriel33 | Posted 9/4/2007 6:50:21 AM | message detail
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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/4/2007 6:51:22 AM | message detail
Anyway, I'm feeling really confident about Thrall's chances now. If Arthas can put up 16%+ against this competition, Thrall should at least be able to match that against his weaker opponents.
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KrahenProphet | Posted 9/4/2007 6:52:57 AM | message detail
Haste_2-
I've been thinking about how to calculate a the perfect percentage, but it doesn't really seem possible. We are given information about how everyone does in predicting each character separately, and just that. There is no information about how people do at predicting both characters simultaneously, except for today of course. Also, it doesn't seem like there would be anyway to work backwards from the data we get today either, because there will be no way of knowing if the 4's tomorrow are from people who got the 4 in the 1st round, 2nd round, or simply got 2's in both rounds.

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ToadYoshi | Posted 9/4/2007 6:55:38 AM | message detail
THIS IS MADNESS!

^_^

This is GAMEFAQS!


Their brackets will block out the sun!

Then we will vote in the shade...
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bloodhawks return | Posted 9/4/2007 7:01:04 AM | message detail
I just woke up, and Arthas is in 3rd?!? I had him pegged for around 9%, with it being much closer between KOS-MOS and Diablo, KOS winning.
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transience | Posted 9/4/2007 7:01:50 AM | message detail
Anyway, I'm feeling really confident about Thrall's chances now. If Arthas can put up 16%+ against this competition, Thrall should at least be able to match that against his weaker opponents.

I want to agree here, but I heard this line used about Kerrigan. I think it's best to treat them as separate entities until we see Thrall at work.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/4/2007 7:04:22 AM | message detail
I don't know anything about the Warcraft characters, so I just used my brother and his expert WoW friends as my main reference.

"Dude, everyone knows Thrall. Dude, man. Thrall. He's in-game. Trust me. Vergil? No, dude, Thrall. Dude."

I plan to go over this in much greater detail in my analysis.
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xp1337 | Posted 9/4/2007 7:07:44 AM | message detail
I made the argument yesterday in passing, but if we say that the main draw for Arthas/Thrall is WoW, Advantage Thrall.

Thrall is in-game, a faction leader, quest-giver, has an instance over him, etc.

Arthas is still out of the game. You'd have to know lore to know who he is.

However, if we give their main draw to WC3, then yes, Arthas wins rather comfortably. While Thrall is still pretty big in WC3, he's not Arthas big by any measure.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 9/4/2007 7:08:35 AM | message detail
Wait, Thrall is in other Warcraft games as well?

Dude. Thrall.
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xp1337 | Posted 9/4/2007 7:12:00 AM | message detail
Yeah. Arthas is in WC3, TFT, and soon to be WoW (technically you hear his voice in WoW if you count Naxx, but like no one except the hardcore have been there)

Thrall has been in WC3 and WoW (and an unofficial expansion to TFT, IIRC)

Thrall was basically the leader of the Orc Campaign in WoW and was pretty prevalent, but Arthas was easily the main character in WC3. He was the leader of the Human and Undead Campaigns, and returned in TFT.
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xp1337 | Posted 9/4/2007 7:13:34 AM | message detail
Actually, back to WoW technicalities, you also hear Arthas' voice if you sit in the Undercity Throne Room where you can hear the echoes of major events that occurred there in WC3, but that's like an Easter Egg that no one would realize unless they played WC3 and knew what was going on.
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Majin Lou | Posted 9/4/2007 7:15:11 AM | message detail
*wakes up*

Diablo last? Holy ****.
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transience | Posted 9/4/2007 7:16:05 AM | message detail
maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way, but I see weaker characters as being more of a problem for Thrall. it seems like he'll have a core fanbase that knows and likes him, but will have trouble getting a large percentage of votes. he'd be best off if there were a handful of strong characters in the poll that would split the vote instead of just Ganondorf. I don't know if he can get enough votes.

also, Thrall kind of scares me. I had him for a good 2-3 weeks but kinda gave up on him. he definitely has a chance to win, but he has to be significantly stronger than Kerrigan to compete with Vergil. possible, but I'm always skeptical.
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xp1337 | Posted 9/4/2007 7:16:41 AM | message detail
Thrall was basically the leader of the Orc Campaign in WC3 and was pretty prevalent

Gah, fixed.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 9/4/2007 7:19:11 AM | message detail
Thrall's chances are already looking pretty good, if it wasn't for Diablo I would expect Arthas to have overtaken KOS-MOS by now.

Thrall/Vergil was a very hard pick for me, I just went with Thrall which was a total risk. Looks like it's paying off.
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Xcarvengerx | Posted 9/4/2007 7:19:49 AM | message detail
Thrall is unrecognisable if people have not played Warcraft games, just like non-face Arthas pics (search Arthas in google and the three pictures there are unrecognisable to me, non-Warcraft player). If Thrall is here, Diablo is sure to take the third or even second place. Can't speak for Vergil though...
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xp1337 | Posted 9/4/2007 7:20:07 AM | message detail
At the same time, if we give any credence to the fact that Blizz, at least in their forum topics, is scorning Arthas; I honestly don't see that happening to Thrall.

Arthas is far more of a polarizing figure. He does have some rabid fanboys, but at the same time those fanboys, as well as just other dislike/apathy is also heavy with Arthas.

Meanwhile, I can't think of many who would feel that way about Thrall. He's almost universally loved.

I'd be wary with this argument though, because I'd be skeptical of giving the scant few posting in the WoW forums as indicative of the general effect the rally has.
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Haste_2 | Posted 9/4/2007 7:21:37 AM | message detail
Well, if you put Arthas amongst Ratchet and Vergil I think Arthas would win fairly comfortably... looking at today's results, that is.

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SonicRaptor | Posted 9/4/2007 7:21:42 AM | message detail
Thrall is unrecognisable if people have not played Warcraft games, just like non-face Arthas pics (search Arthas in google and the three pictures there are unrecognisable to me, non-Warcraft player). If Thrall is here, Diablo is sure to take the third or even second place. Can't speak for Vergil though...

The thing is Thrall is an Orc, that's a signifigant picture advantage because nearly everyone knows what a WarCraft Orc looks like at least. Even if they aren't familiar with the character himself.
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