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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/3/2007 10:10:05 PM | message detail
Really, it's about longevity. A 1v1 contest for games is plenty unpredictable at this point, so why go with the four way format when it's not needed? It's possible that this ridiculous format could get pretty predictable with repetition too. Then where do you go? Tag team matches? 8 way matches?

Exactly. Among other things... there's propriety to be considered. It's not like the advocates are making a strong argument either, what with the woefully predictable affairs I've seen touted as reasons for such a contest.
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xp1337 | Posted 9/3/2007 10:10:12 PM | message detail
64 character battle royale.

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People would look at the first few names and then go, "**** this." and scroll to the Vote button, and just maybe one of the last few would catch their eye.
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/3/2007 10:10:27 PM | message detail
I think that, until the Game Contest becomes a regular thing, we don't need to worry about gimmicks on top of it. It may make it more unpredictable, but I'd like something more controlled until we start to get too tight of a grasp on it.
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Lopen | Posted 9/3/2007 10:11:05 PM | message detail
And man, a 64 character battle royale would be hilarious, with one being eliminated a day... if only the screen could hold that many options!
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Janus5000 | Posted 9/3/2007 10:11:20 PM | message detail
And Arthas gets a 19 vote update.
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Keno316 | Posted 9/3/2007 10:11:36 PM | message detail
Arthas just took a HUGE cut!
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Cecil XIX | Posted 9/3/2007 10:11:37 PM | message detail
Keep up that percentage Arthas. >_>
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/3/2007 10:11:48 PM | message detail
And good gravy, Arthas is going on a tear right now.
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King Morgoth | Posted 9/3/2007 10:11:55 PM | message detail
Detailed Stats
Yoshi > Knuckles - 17.07%
Yoshi > Other - 12.89%
Knuckles > Yoshi - 29.85%
Knuckles > Other - 21.06%
Other > Yoshi - 7.93%
Other > Knuckles - 4.27%
Other > Other - 6.93%

Figured this would be interesting to see...
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/3/2007 10:12:10 PM | message detail
I don't see why it works one way but not the other. Are you saying that you can't draw anything from these matches to apply to 1v1 matches?

You can, but with four people in it there's so much more SFF involved it would be just that much more difficult to discern for the 1v1 matches.
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creativename | Posted 9/3/2007 10:12:45 PM | message detail
Arthas is killing Diablo with the Leech factor here, IMO.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/3/2007 10:12:51 PM | message detail
Arthas vs. Diablo in a 1v1 match.

Who ya got?
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 9/3/2007 10:13:05 PM | message detail
Arthas is really proving himself here. This is quite shocking.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/3/2007 10:13:57 PM | message detail
Arthas vs. Diablo in a 1v1 match.

Who ya got?


Ask me after this match is over. <_<
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Lopen | Posted 9/3/2007 10:15:33 PM | message detail
You can, but with four people in it there's so much more SFF involved it would be just that much more difficult to discern for the 1v1 matches.

Either way, you're getting the same amount of knowledge. If you can discern how much the SFF was around to boil things in a 4 way down to a 1v1 match, you're good to go. Similarly, if you can place the 1v1 games properly in the SFF food chain into a 4 way match, you're good to go. It's the same difficulty, just applying it backwards or forwards. I don't see any more difficulty.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/3/2007 10:15:40 PM | message detail
It's not like the advocates are making a strong argument either, what with the woefully predictable affairs I've seen touted as reasons for such a contest.

KH, stop that immediately.
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Keno316 | Posted 9/3/2007 10:17:13 PM | message detail
I swear! As fun as this match is, it'd be even more fun if picking 3rd and 4th place had come into the question here.

Just watching Arthas potentially upset Diablo for 3rd and not really meaning that much is kinda sad.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/3/2007 10:18:55 PM | message detail
KH, stop that immediately.

<_<

It's true, though. Ask anyone in here what's more predictable - this:

Final Fantasy VII
Super Smash Brothers Brawl
Twilight Princess
Ocarina of Time

or just this:

Final Fantasy VII
Ocarina of Time

Maybe I'm just alone, but I want to see the latter MUCH more than the former.
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ZFS | Posted 9/3/2007 10:20:27 PM | message detail
Would prefer seeing the latter, too.

(OoT upsetz)

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/3/2007 10:20:40 PM | message detail
You know what I was telling you to stop. You know full well who I am, damnit.

And I'll agree, the latter there is probably the most wanted match there is. I just think as a whole the Fourway games contest would be 5x more unpredictable than the 1v1 Regular stuff. And as I said, both forms would be awesome at this point.
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transience | Posted 9/3/2007 10:20:57 PM | message detail
Diablo beats Arthas regardless of this result. I feel more confident in the name recognition.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/3/2007 10:21:46 PM | message detail
And FFVII has to win. It's the last thing left that can stand up to the Zelda Dictatorship.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/3/2007 10:21:50 PM | message detail
clearly tranny's not thinking ahead to the Lich King expansion for WoW
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JustForFun1988 | Posted 9/3/2007 10:21:52 PM | message detail
I swear! As fun as this match is, it'd be even more fun if picking 3rd and 4th place had come into the question here.

Seriously i don't like this idea. My head would explode if i have to pick 3rd and 4th place in Zidane/Ness/L.Snake/Alucard, Pit/Luigi/Mudkips/Tingle, Agent J/Edgeworth/Link/Bidoof , Duke/GF/Ike/Guybrush and etc.
ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/3/2007 10:22:11 PM | message detail
and yes, Diablo over Arthas regardless. Name recognition ftw.

Although maybe Arthas after this WoW Expy.
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creativename | Posted 9/3/2007 10:23:31 PM | message detail
RPGuy:
The updater needs a Lead 3 column. <_<

Your wish is granted. </Velius>
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transience | Posted 9/3/2007 10:23:51 PM | message detail
diablo's well-known
arthas would need a tuesday
match is on friday
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Keno316 | Posted 9/3/2007 10:24:19 PM | message detail
You Da Man, cn!
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/3/2007 10:26:05 PM | message detail
KOS-MOS's gains are getting smaller while both Diablo and Arthas are going up in percentage now.
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Keno316 | Posted 9/3/2007 10:27:08 PM | message detail
Its just the overall voting slowing down. KOSMOS is still managing 30~40 votes with a whole night to go.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/3/2007 10:27:31 PM | message detail
Arthas and Diablo are really starting to benefit at Mega Man's expense. The Power Hour is over... and the Blue Bomber seems to be keeping the same lamentable trends from last year so far.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/3/2007 10:27:52 PM | message detail
Not enough, etc.

Like said, Arthas and Diablo are going to spend the entire day killing each other while KOS-MOS does the bare minimum needed to advance.

She's going to be in severe hot water next round though.
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transience | Posted 9/3/2007 10:28:28 PM | message detail
KOS has yet to lose an update to the Blizzard duo. she's also been going at 19-20% for the last seven updates in a row. she's verrrry consistent right now.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 9/3/2007 10:28:49 PM | message detail
KOS-MOS doesn't stand a goddamn chance next round.

I'm wondering if Yoshi could upset Mega Man though...
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Starion | Posted 9/3/2007 10:28:58 PM | message detail
That's great creativename, thanks. Anything else you can do that's not problematic to implement (I'm thinking something like smaller font here)?
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Lopen | Posted 9/3/2007 10:29:02 PM | message detail
Sweet, Lead 3. Had to go check out the first match just to see Vaan get his ass kicked more thoroughly by Rikku than Yoshi did to Knux... heh heh.
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transience | Posted 9/3/2007 10:30:04 PM | message detail
I think you're a bit harsh on Mega Man, by the way. 50% is about what I'd expect from a Sonic or a Samus here... maybe 55%, but this is hardly "embarrassing".
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/3/2007 10:30:12 PM | message detail

I'm wondering if Yoshi could upset Mega Man though...


Doubt it... if anything, I'd consider Knuckles over Yoshi.

Though I'd dismiss that pretty quickly too.
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Master Moltar | Posted 9/3/2007 10:30:28 PM | message detail
Woo, Lead 3!

Looks like Mega is on a free-fall from here. Argh, I'm done putting faith in him.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/3/2007 10:31:25 PM | message detail
I'm not referring to the actual percentage (check my prediction!) - I'm referring to the trend. Mega looked *mighty* nice against Axel before everything went to hell.

Though I guess I should reserve judgment until after the fact.
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Keno316 | Posted 9/3/2007 10:33:15 PM | message detail
KOS-MOS's gains here are lovely to watch. Just like KOS herself.


OK, enough with the cornyness...still haven't seen Crono, but the bottom of the NN sure seems to have fallen from grace.


Prove me wrong Crono! PROVE ME WRONG!!
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 9/3/2007 10:33:51 PM | message detail
I dunno, Mega looks like what I expected of him.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 9/3/2007 10:35:21 PM | message detail
In fact... do my eyes deceive me, or did KOS-MOS *win* that update from Mega Man???
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HaRRicH | Posted 9/3/2007 10:35:39 PM | message detail
KOS-MOS is doing great right now, but don't undermine Diablo's (or even Arthas's?) chance here. Blizzard fans ARE being linked here on WoW's forum (and don't put it past DII's front page again either), he's in a difficult position so rallying might become more encouraged, Diablo definitely has a solid day-vote while Mega Man and KOS-MOS lack such, the match is still young, and we saw what happened yesterday. Diablo's definitely still in this match...

...but Arthas isn't doing him any favors, and we'll have to see how KOS-MOS does until day-light to make a more solid prediction here.
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xp1337 | Posted 9/3/2007 10:35:45 PM | message detail
XD

Big cut by Arthas again.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/3/2007 10:36:12 PM | message detail
Wow... Huge cut by Arthas there.
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Keno316 | Posted 9/3/2007 10:36:16 PM | message detail
XD! Arthas just tied KOSMOS that update before even Diablo could...
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transience | Posted 9/3/2007 10:36:24 PM | message detail
yeah, the trends are certainly the same. he's the same board vote warrior we've always known, minus the anti-voting early on from the people in the know.

I don't know if you can pin trends to strength, though. he's not bleeding out of the ear like he did against Ryu right now.. though granted, we've got a couple of hours before we have to worry about that. plus, no one here has Ryu's night vote...
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TimJab | Posted 9/3/2007 10:36:36 PM | message detail
Vincent could take Mega Man.
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Janus5000 | Posted 9/3/2007 10:36:56 PM | message detail
...did Arthas get more votes than KOS-MOS that time?
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