CNET Networks Entertainment GameSpot: BioShock | GameFAQs | SportsGamer | MP3.com | TV.com | FilmSpot

Home What's New Contribute Features Boards Help

GameFAQs Contests

Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 454

HaRRicH | Posted 8/30/2007 8:05:58 AM | message detail
There's not been an open stats topic for three and a half hours. Has that happened before?



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.GameFAQsContests.com
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19


*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left):
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/


*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html


*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm


*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, and thanks to RockMFR for finding the missing ones!
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php


*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

All Time Top 10 Lists:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2002stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2003stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/spring2004stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2004stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/spring2005stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2005stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/july2006stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2006stats.htm

HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007

TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

Aprosenf's Poll Script:
http://www.geocities.com/aprosenf/allpolls.txt

GameFAQs' Top 100 Games
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/top10

Manual Poll Updater:
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/pollupdate.php


!yawa tsoP
---
PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580
swirIdude | Posted 8/30/2007 8:08:16 AM | message detail
No.
---
Pokemon FC: 0129 8285 9148
Jump Ultimate Stars FC: 1504 2045 7334
LeonhartFour | Posted 8/30/2007 8:08:19 AM | message detail
Auron > Ryu > Bowser > Shadow
---
"I'm no hero...Never was. I'm just an old killer...hired to do some wet work."
MMXcalibur | Posted 8/30/2007 8:09:47 AM | message detail
Gentlemen, I present you with the upset of the contest and the result that will "make" my bracket:

Link > Mario > Sephiroth > Crono

The two Nintendo powerhouses will move on from that group. Book it.
---
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS (0-0) : AFC Wildcard
NEXT: at Houston Texans (0-0)
LeonhartFour | Posted 8/30/2007 8:10:47 AM | message detail
It's amazing how quickly people forget about the Battle Royale.
---
"I'm no hero...Never was. I'm just an old killer...hired to do some wet work."
Gaddswell | Posted 8/30/2007 8:11:20 AM | message detail
Stat topic made after the 500 post? Madness
---
Finally a damn bracket!
JustForFun1988 | Posted 8/30/2007 8:12:24 AM | message detail
Gentlemen, I present you with the upset of the contest and the result that will "make" my bracket:

Link > Mario > Sephiroth > Crono


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2563
MMXcalibur | Posted 8/30/2007 8:20:11 AM | message detail
Oh goddamnit....I forgot about the Battle Royale. I was pretty proud of myself on that pick too.....
Well, thanks for the info.
---
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS (0-0) : AFC Wildcard
NEXT: at Houston Texans (0-0)
PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/30/2007 8:20:41 AM | message detail
GUYS WE HAVE TO MAKE NEW TOPICS AT 18 POSTS THE MADNESS THAT WOULD ENSUE IF WE DIDNT WOULD CAUSE MASS CHAOS.
---
Explicit Content.
I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken
LeonhartFour | Posted 8/30/2007 8:33:49 AM | message detail
Even if 2005 was a fluke, I still think Mewtwo can upset Ryu. Ryu is the type of character that seems to only do well against non-Nintendo competition.

Uhhh...Didn't he do pretty well against Samus? He had ONE bad match, and all of a sudden he's got Nintendo problems. Gimme a break. I still don't see why everyone's so high on Pokemon...resisting SFF? Why? I can't believe HaRR keeps referencing what Nidoran F did as if it's impressive. It's not. And for another thing, it's a completely different situation. Mewtwo is NOT a joke entry.

And I think the whole Metroid not SFFing Pokemon thing is being overblown. Does anyone honestly think Metroid is in the same league as Samus herself? I don't. Also, the more I think about it, 65% on Star Ocean really ain't that impressive either. That should be bottom of the barrel right there. I don't know if it'd beat any of the series in the contest, apart from the obvious Madden and Shadow Hearts. Yeah, I think Suikoden could beat Star Ocean, too. At the very least, it'd be close.

Besides, I understand we DO have hardcore fans of the Pokemon games, but what about the actual Pokemon themselves? Sure, Mewtwo is an exception, but how strong would you expect a character to be when there are 300+ to choose from? And yeah, he's got Smash Brothers, but Bowser negates that.

Eh, his only true "Nintendo" competition was Bowser, and I really can't see Mewtwo getting 40% on him.

Rikku is still kinda embarrassing, admittedly.


Rikku turned out to be better than we thought anyway, and she'd beat Mewtwo head-to-head.
---
"I'm no hero...Never was. I'm just an old killer...hired to do some wet work."
HaRRicH | Posted 8/30/2007 9:16:59 AM | message detail
Joke votes didn't make Nidoran = Pikachu, Leonhart, and I doubt many got the joke anyway. How much did joke-votes help Duke Nukem against Cloud? Even when the joke was obvious to all AND pretty funny (self-sustaining, I believe mnm said...nice way of saying it), it didn't help much compared to the year before...it's not the same for Nidoran like that.

As for you wondering how strong "the exception" can be when there's over three hundred Pokemon, there's a reason why he's the clear favorite despite this. He was THE Pokemon to have in THE Pokemon games that are most cherished here, he was THE star of at least one Pokemon movie, and both of those were why he even got in SSBM. He sucks in SSBM and Bowser's in there to offset what little it would do for him, but people were real excited he got in the game for a reason...

...then, just because I know you hate it, Nidoran's "fanbase" (or as I'd rather say, the Pokemon fanbase) kept her from losing ground against Samus. If they got that strongly behind a random Pokemon probably only seen on handhelds (barring Colosseum games) against a Nintendo legend/mascot who spans various consoles and even genres, then how is Mewtwo going to lose much support to Bowser or Toad. Ryu aside, if Samus can't make Nidoran look any worse than Pikachu, how is Bowser or Toad going to keep Mewtwo completely out of contention?
---
PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580
PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/30/2007 9:30:16 AM | message detail
I don't understand the resisting SFF business either. What do we have to back this up, Metroid/Pokemon in the series (don't have anything to base their actual strengths on), and Samus/Nidoran F (don't have anything to base Nidy's strength on), then throw in the fact that everyone loves to say "lol Samus can't SFF anything" and well, you have pretty much nothing to back it up.

---
Explicit Content.
I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken
Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/30/2007 10:36:35 AM | message detail
Rikku turned out to be better than we thought anyway, and she'd beat Mewtwo head-to-head.

...what? Mewtwo may not be that strong, but he'll certainly be good enough to beat Rikku. It's not like that's much of a feat, considering Rikku's place in the stats.
---
Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need.
Xuxon | Posted 8/30/2007 10:39:10 AM | message detail
Why would you be certain about that? It actually seems pretty debatable to me. In fact, I'm pretty sure I'd take Rikku.
---
FFXII NLB - finished - 39 marks
FFXII LLIENANMiNDM - Bhujerba (post-Ba'Gamnan)
Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/30/2007 10:41:23 AM | message detail
Mewtwo's a fan favorite in a popular series. Like Auron, but Mewtwo has more than just one game to draw on, and he has SSBM too.
---
Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need.
AmazingKirby | Posted 8/30/2007 10:42:34 AM | message detail
Sorry, Rikku wins. Game over.
---
caps
therealmnm | Posted 8/30/2007 10:42:59 AM | message detail
It's not like later Pokemon games are putting Mewtwo on the map now... If anything, with more and more ubers/legendaries being added, the focus is off of Mewtwo now....
---
Currently playing: Call of Duty 2, Maverick Hunter X, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Dead Rising, Tomb Raider Legend
Karma Hunter | Posted 8/30/2007 10:46:31 AM | message detail
Err, Rikku's at 31% on Samus as of 2006. Using 2k5 Samus that puts her at 25.85 on BL, a VERY solid midcarder. And if you make Samus stronger, that makes Rikku that much better (for example, NGamer's stats have Rikku beating 2k5 Leon Kennedy). The only thing you can really use to make Rikku look significantly worse is if you adjust her 2k5 number down based on 2k6 Bowser (and really... HOW weak do you want to say Ryu was in 2k5 again?).

You can have whatever opinions on Mewtwo that you want, but stating that him being stronger than Rikku is a lock... that's just foolishness.
---
delicious cats
Commit it to memory.
Karma Hunter | Posted 8/30/2007 10:48:38 AM | message detail
Mewtwo's a fan favorite in a popular series. Like Auron, but Mewtwo has more than just one game to draw on, and he has SSBM too.

...please don't compare Mewtwo to Auron.

Are we forgetting that the sole indicator of Pokemon being a "popular" series here on GameFAQs is its showing against Metroid? That's not proof of anything. I expect Mewtwo to be strong, but he's not going to be any sort of powerhouse and he could very well get killed. I'm not sold on Pokemon's strength any more than I am Metroid's.
---
delicious cats
Commit it to memory.
HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/30/2007 10:52:43 AM | message detail
I'm just curious to see how much of a boost MP3 will give Samus. No one is expecting Samus > Cloud or anything, but is it within the realm of possibility that she gives Cloud a scare and a close fight perhaps?
---
Pokemon Pearl Code: 2663-9266-2709
WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko
therealmnm | Posted 8/30/2007 10:53:27 AM | message detail
Yeah, it was pretty much agreed on that Rikku/Fox would be a good match. I don't see why Mewtwo would be a lock over Rikku. Hell, I took beating Rikku as being in the upper-bounds of Mewtwo's strength (no, I don't mean max). But I could also see him being in that 21-22% range as well...
---
Currently playing: Call of Duty 2, Maverick Hunter X, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Dead Rising, Tomb Raider Legend
therealmnm | Posted 8/30/2007 10:54:40 AM | message detail
I'm just curious to see how much of a boost MP3 will give Samus. No one is expecting Samus > Cloud or anything, but is it within the realm of possibility that she gives Cloud a scare and a close fight perhaps?

Give Cloud a scare? No I don't think Samus = Sephiroth...
---
Currently playing: Call of Duty 2, Maverick Hunter X, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Dead Rising, Tomb Raider Legend
outback | Posted 8/30/2007 10:55:46 AM | message detail
I can't see Mewtwo being that popular... I wouldn't put him above Pikachu, despite Pika's anti-votes.
---
Mario Strikers Charged Friend Code: 0387630-238389
Current Season Record: 0-0
HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/30/2007 10:56:53 AM | message detail
Then what do you expect of the MP3 boost to do for Samus MNM? Nothing notable?
---
Pokemon Pearl Code: 2663-9266-2709
WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko
therealmnm | Posted 8/30/2007 11:01:55 AM | message detail
In 2k4, we were happy that Samus was able to break 40% on Cloud, and that was before KH2 and Advent Children. Now with the Wii and Metroid Prime 3 (MP2 didn't seem to boost Samus that much), you expect her to suddenly give Cloud a scare? Sephiroth doesn't even look to give Cloud a scare... Unless you call 53/47 a scare...
---
Currently playing: Call of Duty 2, Maverick Hunter X, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Dead Rising, Tomb Raider Legend
therealmnm | Posted 8/30/2007 11:02:57 AM | message detail
And I'm talking about Sephiroth there. I'd be surprised if Samus managed 45% against Cloud...
---
Currently playing: Call of Duty 2, Maverick Hunter X, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Dead Rising, Tomb Raider Legend
HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/30/2007 11:13:42 AM | message detail
Eh, I just figured with recent trends and given that Square hasn't really been doing much lately SINCE AC and KH2 that it could be somewhat plausible...
---
Pokemon Pearl Code: 2663-9266-2709
WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko
therealmnm | Posted 8/30/2007 11:17:45 AM | message detail
Yeah, but it's not like Cloud is getting less popular. Samus will of course close the gap, but that's a LARGE gap. I could see if the conversation was about her maybe getting close to Sephiroth...
---
Currently playing: Call of Duty 2, Maverick Hunter X, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Dead Rising, Tomb Raider Legend
HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/30/2007 11:20:53 AM | message detail
I actually think Samus will beat Seph out for 3rd place in Link/Samus/Cloud/Sephiroth...>_>
---
Pokemon Pearl Code: 2663-9266-2709
WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko
voltch | Posted 8/30/2007 11:33:16 AM | message detail
if samus can get wrecked apart by mario what is link gonna do?
---
Rufus shinra destroyed my bracket in the sc2k6 contest.
Karma Hunter | Posted 8/30/2007 12:00:59 PM | message detail
I actually think Samus will beat Seph out for 3rd place in Link/Samus/Cloud/Sephiroth...>_>

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2562

WHY
---
delicious cats
Commit it to memory.
transience | Posted 8/30/2007 12:02:48 PM | message detail
wow, look at all the fighting we had over who made the stats topic! I'm thinking one purged or something since that last one took a while to hit 500.

yeah, I'm thinking that saying anything about Mewtwo definitively is silly. no one knows. Rikku actually sounds like a good spot, she's my new "average midcarder", taking the title from pre-2k5 Luigi.
---
"There's "Awesome," then a few more notches up there is "Amazing," go a few more up and there's "Impeccable." Finally, after climbing a mountain of distance there's "Yuri Hyuga." - HM
MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/30/2007 12:16:39 PM | message detail
as much as I love Mewtwo, he has no chance against Rikku if you ask me. Mewtwo/Frog sounds more debatable.

also, I'd take Rikku over Fox as well. so yeah.
---
Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii.
MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/30/2007 12:42:51 PM | message detail
anyone think we're underestimating Serge a bit? Chrono Cross made it to 43 in the top 100 games list.. right behind FF9 and MGS2. the game can't be that disliked or that unknown.
---
Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii.
H__RR____H | Posted 8/30/2007 12:43:10 PM | message detail
I'd take Rikku over Mewtwo head-to-head, but not by alot and I wouldn't be shocked if Mewtwo won.
---
Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio
UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/30/2007 12:46:09 PM | message detail
There actually was a 454 in my tagged topics, but it purged. No clue how that happened.

~*ST*~
---
Petition for a system notification when a contribution is removed: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=37308859
MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/30/2007 12:46:17 PM | message detail
looking at Sub-Zero and from a lesser popular series than Pokemon, I guess Mewtwo's ceiling could be somewhere around his area.. but I find it highly unlikely; Mewtwo seems more of a ..Scorpion strength kind of guy to me. there are far too many Pokemon out there.
---
Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii.
H__RR____H | Posted 8/30/2007 12:47:04 PM | message detail
anyone think we're underestimating Serge a bit? Chrono Cross made it to 43 in the top 100 games list.. right behind FF9 and MGS2. the game can't be that disliked or that unknown.

Not to mention being rather close to both Wind Waker and Majora's Mask...ultimately, it's a big group of often-hated games from popular series.


Seriously though, Serge could be underestimated. I'm taking Pikachu to outlast him, but that would be one of the least shocking point-losses in my bracket if Serge powered through. He's not to be forgotten...just not my particular choice.
---
Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio
H__RR____H | Posted 8/30/2007 12:51:45 PM | message detail
I can understand the mentality that too many characters keep the focus from Mewtwo -- we've seen it in FF3/6, for example. At the same time though, FF3/6 also doesn't have a CLEAR favorite (Kefka's the closest we got, but there's also Shadow, Locke, Edgar, Sabin.....). How many people will dispute Mewtwo being the strongest rep from the Pokemon series? Only Charmander and maybe one or two others could pose an argument, and even then it would probably be more for the sake of consideration. For there to be as many Pokemon as there is and for Mewtwo to be the leader, that means something.
---
Damn, most of my dates involve mocking and/or beating up people like you and your bride-to-be, so I really have no advice --Horatio
voltch | Posted 8/30/2007 1:07:36 PM | message detail
one thing about the pokemon series i don't get is why are pokemon themselves the top draws?

I want to see prof Oak in the contest one day with maybe red and blue and even giovanni.
---
Rufus shinra destroyed my bracket in the sc2k6 contest.
HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/30/2007 1:21:05 PM | message detail
WHY

cause I'm crazy and I'm gonna pull an HM cause MP3 is kickass <_<
---
Pokemon Pearl Code: 2663-9266-2709
WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko
Karma Hunter | Posted 8/30/2007 1:32:06 PM | message detail
The thing is, if Mewtwo were THAT decisive of a fan-favorite and Pokemon was THAT popular... we would have seen him by now, help from Board 8 (and 128 characters) or not. Not that he still can't be popular (see: Vincent), but the way some people are hyping him? You're just priming yourselves for disappointment.
---
delicious cats
Commit it to memory.
Karma Hunter | Posted 8/30/2007 1:33:06 PM | message detail
And all the cool kids know Charizard is where it's at. <_<
---
delicious cats
Commit it to memory.
trannyscience | Posted 8/30/2007 1:33:20 PM | message detail
I heard that argument most recently with Sub-Zero - didn't stop him from impressing everybody.

can't believe you're considering Serge > Pikachu while taking Mewtwo > Ryu, H.
---
xyzzy
now playing: PW3, Jeanne d'Arc
MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/30/2007 1:37:54 PM | message detail
I just think Pikachu/Mewtwo is like a Tidus/Auron syndrome.
---
Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii.
BDawg | Posted 8/30/2007 1:42:46 PM | message detail
I think Lucario could be on par with Mewtwo, just get him into Brawl somehow.
---
Should I start running now?
PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/30/2007 1:46:51 PM | message detail
I would take Rikku to kick Mewtwo's ass, calling him a lock over her is just flat out stupid. As for Samus challenging Cloud, I'm pretty sure I'm the biggest Samus supporter out there, at least in terms of her stength anyway, and there is no goddamn chance in hell she's taking him down.

Now a question i have to ask... why the hell does anyone think Pit is going to be worth a damn in this contest? Before he was announced in SSB, 10% of this board probably knew who he was. Hell if SSB was out I still dont think he's a lock for that match.
---
Explicit Content.
I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken
Team Rocket Elite | Posted 8/30/2007 1:48:55 PM | message detail
Mudkip and Tingle aren't exactly high marks to beat.
---
"Those whose memories fade seek to carve them in their hearts..."
"All dreams are but another reality. Never forget..."
XIII_rocks | Posted 8/30/2007 1:49:54 PM | message detail
I just think Pikachu/Mewtwo is like a Tidus/Auron syndrome.

Y'know, this actually makes sense. One, an antivoted, annoying 'main' character. The other, a badass 'side' character.

But then, we're talking about different fanbases here, so...hmm. Thing is we'll not know Mewtwo's true strength in onevone matches - I know I won't be using these results definitively if we get a 'conventional' bracket next year.
---
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=34492787 Sign plz
"NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU *****!" - Molly Weasley, Deathly Hallows
Karma Hunter | Posted 8/30/2007 1:53:49 PM | message detail
I just think Pikachu/Mewtwo is like a Tidus/Auron syndrome.

That's an interesting way of looking at it.

Just for fun, adjust 2k2 Pikachu by Cloud 2k3 (should be quite optimistic for the little rat, one would think). That puts him at 21.15 on BL, solidly above the fodder line - something I would never even consider, especially in 2002, but for sake of argument.

Now take Auron 2k5 and Tidus 2k4 (just the years I'd say reflect their "true" strengths - without KH2 - the most) and Auron scores a solid 56% on Tidus. This may be lowballing it to an extent thanks to Mario/Samus and/or Samus/Ganon, so I'll bump him up to 58% for the hell of it.

Now if Mewtwo gets 58% on that Pikachu, he ends up being worth 25.17 on BL. Comparable to Rikku actually, she'd still be expected to win in a semi-close victory.

Of course, there's the argument that the disparity between Mewtwo and Pikachu is significantly greater than that (and I believe it), but I hardly believe anyone thinks Pika is as strong as I just postulated... even post-Nintendo boost.

Just food for thought.
---
delicious cats
Commit it to memory.
advertisement