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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/28/2007 3:52:14 PM | message detail
I don't think Leon would get a massive boost from already being on the GC.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/28/2007 4:46:32 PM | message detail
I've had Dante > leon since day 1, and still do, but I think it'll be closer than most expect, and really wouldn't be surprised if Leon won. I think I think higher of yoshi than most people too, so that certainly sways me in favor of Dante, and I really doubt that REWii did much of anything for Leon, 1% at most.
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Riku11 | Posted 8/28/2007 4:50:27 PM | message detail
Vivi>Leon>Dante
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/28/2007 4:53:49 PM | message detail
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Haste_2 | Posted 8/28/2007 5:02:41 PM | message detail
I didn't hesitate on Dante > Leon since I figured Dante's fans were a little more crazy about him... Leon gets a lot of his popularity just from RE4 being such a great game.

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Eggplant Lord | Posted 8/28/2007 5:10:05 PM | message detail
I think that, in that fourpack, the fact that Leon is Nintendo should be given more weight given that he is the only "Nintendo" character of the four. Certainly, that should make it more important than just having been on a Nintendo console by itself.

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shadow8021 | Posted 8/28/2007 5:23:18 PM | message detail
Ivy got 24% on Tifa. Vyse got 22% on Tifa. Nightmare most likely is stronger than Ivy. I don't see why people are having trouble with this match.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/28/2007 6:13:29 PM | message detail
I'm comfortable with Leon > Dante. It can go either way, of course, but methinks that's the best route to go.
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therealmnm | Posted 8/28/2007 6:33:12 PM | message detail
I don't see why Vyse is suddenly some pillar of strength in this contest. I personally think he's going to fold in this type of contest. I'm not sold just because he got 20% on Tifa and Cloud and 35% on Donkey Kong, especially with his last performance against Tifa being his worst as far as the stats go. I'd feel pretty good about taking Nightmare.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/28/2007 6:56:44 PM | message detail
Dante > Leon at the end of their division is one of the few matches I feel is a lock. Leon has a long way to go if he wants to be at Dante's level.

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therealmnm | Posted 8/28/2007 7:07:38 PM | message detail
Random thought. If Yoshi can win a multi-poll with the likes of Bowser, Luigi, and Mario in it, twice, why are we so iffy on Yoshi beating Knuckles out in the presence of Mega Man? I mean, yeah Mega Man beat Yoshi bad one-on-one, but who's to say that Yoshi would do much worse than that percentage with Knuckles added in, if he did so well in other multi-polls? As much as I love Knux, I can't help but to go with Yoshi winning that one.
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Haste_2 | Posted 8/28/2007 7:25:48 PM | message detail
I have another thought, though: if Mario doesn't do well in multi-option polls, then why wouldn't Yoshi, or anything other Mario character?

Anyway, I have Knuckles > Yoshi in the first round, and, of course, MM > Knux in the second. =p

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therealmnm | Posted 8/28/2007 7:27:15 PM | message detail
But Yoshi does do well in multi-option polls...
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Haste_2 | Posted 8/28/2007 7:29:46 PM | message detail
As for Vyse, a big reason why I'm picking him so I don't have to go through that "I told ya Nightmare was worthless" crap, even though the 4-way polls won't prove anything about Nightmare, anyway...

Besides that, Nightmare has a good chance at, um, splitting some votes with Snake.

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Haste_2 | Posted 8/28/2007 7:30:54 PM | message detail
Knuckles does great in that case, too.

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RPGuy96 | Posted 8/28/2007 7:50:16 PM | message detail
Nightmare probably isn't going to be significantly stronger than Vyse in any case. The big dropoff that Vyse had in 2k5 could've been a fluke...
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/28/2007 8:10:31 PM | message detail
I dunno, Mario not doing well in multi-polls can't be concluded yet because I think Link just screwed him over.
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 8/28/2007 8:11:48 PM | message detail
Going for Vyse simply because he is the main protagonist.
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Haste_2 | Posted 8/28/2007 8:37:43 PM | message detail
Solid Snake vs. Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Ganondorf vs. Master Chief - a likely semi-final: Discuss.

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ZFS | Posted 8/28/2007 8:41:53 PM | message detail
Thoughts: an upset that has been a long time coming.

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Master Moltar | Posted 8/28/2007 8:44:23 PM | message detail
Ganon with 100%
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shadow8021 | Posted 8/28/2007 9:39:00 PM | message detail
That match scares the crap out of me. I always thought Ganon may've had it in him to defeat Sonic (some weird Sonic-Nintendo connection, perhaps?) and last year's pre-contest poll doesn't exactly boost my faith in Sonic in multi-option polls.

Don't know what I'm talking about?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2497

Obviously Sonic did scads better, but the point is, if Sonic could finish under Sora there, is he susceptible to be upset by Ganon? (Chief most likely *holds breath* won't be a problem)
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Xuxon | Posted 8/28/2007 9:49:42 PM | message detail
Master Chief won't even be in that match, and Sonic equaled Cloud on top in the "who do you want in brawl" poll. The poll you linked was about expectations, not favoritism.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/28/2007 10:08:13 PM | message detail
I beg to differ - if anything, the Brawl poll reeked of expectations, not the other way around. No way does Sonic equal Cloud in a traditional poll with those options.
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Xuxon | Posted 8/28/2007 10:52:47 PM | message detail
Well, I wouldn't expect Sonic to equal Cloud in any actual match. It is of note that the question was phrased in terms of desire, not expectations. But actual votes were probably a combination of favoritism with expectations, just like the other poll (favoritism in a possible but unlikely upset, and mostly plain ignorance leading to favorites votes).
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transience | Posted 8/28/2007 11:06:51 PM | message detail
neither poll is especially "valid".
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/28/2007 11:17:47 PM | message detail
I have Ganondorf upsetting Sonic...I do believe it's possible, but I probably wouldn't take it if I weren't such a huge Ganon fanboy. >_>
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2007 12:01:10 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2498

I almost forgot this poll existed as well, which, despite validity... come on, Samus needed a measly 7% increase from a poll that had Tifa, Zelda, and Yuna (along with all the other female contestants, if you wanna be really technical). That's without pictures, too (which goes against the argument that she did so poorly because people don't know the name "Samus Aran" without the suit to go with it).

I wanna see ZSS again... the theory that it had such an extreme impact is still hard for me to wrap my head around (at least we expect Sprite Snake to bomb every year at this point).

...speaking of Sprite Snake, it seems like he'd be mighty upset prone if that were to happen in a poll with Sonic this year...
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Lopen | Posted 8/29/2007 12:06:02 AM | message detail
Oh man... I just got to thinking.

Solid **** vs Malibu Suit Samus! Best match ever.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/29/2007 12:32:22 AM | message detail
http://tennessee.facebook.com/polls.php?poll_id=18825381872&ref=pns

I'm not sure if you have to be a FaceBook user or not to see this, but in case you can't: there was a 1000-vote poll to people on FaceBook who had "video games" in their interests asking what their favorite new console was...

PS3 - 21%
Wii - 34%
360 - 45%

...things worth pointing out include that 16% of the voters were women and 56% of them sided with the Wii, 84% of the voters were men and 49% of them sided with the 360, 50% of the voters were 18-24 years old and 38% of them were for the Wii, and 42% of the voters were 13-17 and 48% of them were for the 360.



Just fun-facts though, I wouldn't take them for much value on GameFAQs today...but that's a taste of what gamers who don't go to game-specific sites feel like, and they might even lead to future trends? Who knows.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/29/2007 12:35:17 AM | message detail
Also, G4 announced the Wii is the #1 best-selling system worldwide this generation afew days ago. I believe both it and the 360 were lingering around 10,500,000 sales, but the Wii had edged it out. This was despite the 360 having a one-year head start, mind you, while the Wii has been out just over nine months. Not too shabby.

Meanwhile, I don't think the PS3 has broke 5,000,000 yet. Shabby.
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Haste_2 | Posted 8/29/2007 12:50:24 AM | message detail
Well, if MC makes it, I have a hard time thinking that Snake would do better than Sonic. If any two characters among those four share the most fanbase with each other, it would be Snake and Master Chief, I think. Plus, Ganondorf steals away some of Snake's strength from SSBB, probably.

If it's Dante or Leon that makes it... well, I think Dante would steal votes from Snake to allow Sonic the victory, too. As for Leon... he'd probably split enough miniscule fanbase-splitting with Ganondorf and Sonic to allow Snake the victory...

As much as I want Ganondorf to win the pack (for upset's sake), I just can't see him doing that well... I had Ganondorf getting 2nd place to Snake for quite some time, but I felt extremely uncomfortable with that... I then switched to Sonic > Snake.

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Buzzup | Posted 8/29/2007 2:53:21 AM | message detail
I don't see how Snake and Master Chief share a fanbase, heck, Snake and Ganondorf probably have a larger shared fanbase than Snake/MC and even that is negligible.
But I do believe that any of the four could advance in that poll, Snake and Sonic having a better chance than the other 2 of course.
Haste_2 | Posted 8/29/2007 2:59:43 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=20 - Sonic is so screwed!

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Buzzup | Posted 8/29/2007 3:01:43 AM | message detail
Crash Bandicoot for the upset over Magus imo.
Buzzup | Posted 8/29/2007 3:07:39 AM | message detail
Talking about Crash, him>PW and Bomberman seems like a funny upset. Crash wasn't that much weaker than Bomberman in the lol 2k4 x-stats, and he had like a dozen games since 2k4(sure, nobody cares about them, but neither do they about Bomberman's games!). He even has a Wii game coming in October, so he even has some inkling of hype behind him. Farfetched? I know and I don't care, viva le Crash!
greatone10 | Posted 8/29/2007 3:16:43 AM | message detail
He's not too far off Bomberman in the 2k4 stats, but he was also overrated by Solid **** vs. Frog.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/29/2007 8:40:42 AM | message detail
Yeah, him getting (I think) 28% against MC isn't nearly as good as getting 35% on Squall.
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Buzzup | Posted 8/29/2007 8:49:35 AM | message detail
Forgot about Solid ****, too bad ;_;
LeonhartFour | Posted 8/29/2007 9:02:44 AM | message detail
Bowser 60-40'd Ryu when it should have been 50-50, and SF is becoming less and less significant around here with no new releases in years

It should've been 50/50 according to the stats, sure. Doesn't necessarily mean squat. Personally, I think Bowser was still coming off of a Villains Contest high, as was Ganondorf. Then you saw him fall back to earth the next year.

Oh, and as far as the "SF becoming less significant" talk, wasn't Street Fighter II Turbo in the Top 10 Virtual Console American sales list? That doesn't sound like a game that's insignificant to me...

Random thought. If Yoshi can win a multi-poll with the likes of Bowser, Luigi, and Mario in it, twice, why are we so iffy on Yoshi beating Knuckles out in the presence of Mega Man? I mean, yeah Mega Man beat Yoshi bad one-on-one, but who's to say that Yoshi would do much worse than that percentage with Knuckles added in, if he did so well in other multi-polls?

...Knuckles won his Favorites poll, too, you know. If Mega Man hurts Yoshi to any significant degree, Knuckles will be able to capitalize on it. It's not like he's not a fan favorite, too.

The big dropoff that Vyse had in 2k5 could've been a fluke...

Well, you can believe that Laharl beats Vyse as badly as Vyse beat him one year before and Ramirez > Vyse if you want to, but I personally think it's guaranteed that Tifa/Vyse was a fluke. It's not a "could've been" situation to me. I mean, I'm sure people don't expect Vyse to stay right around the fodder line forever, but to drop all the way down to--what was it?--13% the next year? Yeah, that doesn't reek of Tifa overperformance or anything.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/29/2007 9:06:37 AM | message detail
Oh yeah, here it is:

North America's Top VC Downloads
Mario 1
Paper Mario
Mario 2
Mario Kart 64
Super Mario World
Mario 64
Punch Out!!
Ocarina of Time
Zelda 1
Link to the Past
Zelda 2: AoL
Star Fox 64
Donkey Kong Country
Sonic 2
Street Fighter 2 Turbo
Pac-Man
WaveRace 64 (NEW)
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swirIdude | Posted 8/29/2007 9:31:47 AM | message detail
And that's just one downloadable gaming service!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/29/2007 9:35:56 AM | message detail
North America's Top VC Downloads
Mario 1
Paper Mario
Mario 2
Mario Kart 64
Super Mario World
Mario 64
Punch Out!!
Ocarina of Time
Zelda 1
Link to the Past
Zelda 2: AoL
Star Fox 64
Donkey Kong Country
Sonic 2
Street Fighter 2 Turbo
Pac-Man
WaveRace 64 (NEW)


Little Mac Boost CONFIRMED
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swirIdude | Posted 8/29/2007 9:38:06 AM | message detail
Little Mac > Dante confirmed!

Little Mac > Leon confirmed!

Little Mac > Link...



confirmed!


Little Mac in SSBB...

Still not confirmed!
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ZFS | Posted 8/29/2007 9:38:22 AM | message detail
Little Mac boost is so a couple pages old!

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/29/2007 9:44:47 AM | message detail
Being among the top 20 VC downloads for the week is not much of a feat. >_<
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therealmnm | Posted 8/29/2007 10:01:47 AM | message detail
...Knuckles won his Favorites poll, too, you know. If Mega Man hurts Yoshi to any significant degree, Knuckles will be able to capitalize on it. It's not like he's not a fan favorite, too.

Yeah, but I was more talking about how people bring up Mega Man SFFing Yoshi one-on-one. If Yoshi can win a poll with potential SFF from Mario, Bowser, and Luigi, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be hurt too much from a poll with Mega Man and Knuckles... I don't really see that much of a difference. I never said that Knuckles couldn't win it, I'm just wondering why people are counting Yoshi out because Mega Man is there. Yes, Yoshi got SFF'd by Mega Man head-to-head. He also got SFF'd by Link. But he still managed to do well in the two multi-polls that we've seen. Basically, I'm just saying I don't see why Yoshi shouldn't be favored over Knuckles. I'm not saying that Knuckles can't win....
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therealmnm | Posted 8/29/2007 10:04:51 AM | message detail
And as for downloads, why isn't there more talk about Xbox Live? Bomberman LIVE is the ****, yo. And Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo HD Remix is up today. Boosts for Ryu and Akuma confirmed. Not to mention that Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix is due sometime soon as well...
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/29/2007 10:05:22 AM | message detail
Why are so many people downloading Pac-Man? It's one of the easiest games to find on the internet.
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therealmnm | Posted 8/29/2007 10:15:50 AM | message detail
Yeah, I don't see what the big deal about the Virtual Console is. Yeah, you can download and play Streets of Rage. But can you play Streets of Rage 2 with on-line co-op???? I only wish Nintendo would implement that...
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