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Ngamer64 | Posted 8/25/2007 7:25:08 PM | message detail
And not that it will effect this Contest or anything, but I also have the listing of Japan's Top 20 from a couple weeks back here, so I'll throw that out here as well.

Japan's Virtual Console Top 20
Mario 1
Paper Mario
Mario Kart 64
Fushigi no Dungeon 2: Fuurai no Shiren (an SNES RPG)
Ghouls and Ghosts (for the MegaDrive)
Mario 2 (aka The Lost Levels in the US)
Super Mario World
Puyo Puyo Tsuu (Sega puzzle game)
Wave Race 64
Mario 64
Ocarina of Time
Mario Golf
Ice Climber
Castlevania 1
Kirby's Adventure
Hajimari no Mori (NES)
Star Fox 64
Mario Bros.
Bomberman '94
Donkey Kong Country

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ZFS | Posted 8/25/2007 7:28:59 PM | message detail
About as well as Symphony of the Night, I think. That's hardly terrible, especially considering how fresh it is. Alucard's still going strong ten years later.

Can't even begin to compare the two.

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Lopen | Posted 8/25/2007 7:36:04 PM | message detail
Punch Out!!
Ocarina of Time


Mac > Link confirmed, right?
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Master Moltar | Posted 8/25/2007 7:38:35 PM | message detail
Top 6 games are Mario, think I know what that means!

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/25/2007 7:39:15 PM | message detail
I dunno. I still think Yoshi loses.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 8/25/2007 7:39:19 PM | message detail
Nay Lopen, you can't trust the best sellers listing to be exactly in order, just that overall those are the 20 that sold most during the week.

So it's just Link = Mac confirmed.

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ZFS | Posted 8/25/2007 7:40:13 PM | message detail
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ZFS | Posted 8/25/2007 7:41:09 PM | message detail
Top 6 games are Mario, think I know what that means!

Mario making the finals confirmed!

link and sephiroth aint got nothin on this

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smitelf | Posted 8/25/2007 8:21:50 PM | message detail
Japanese isn't a color!

...O_o...Where did I say it was?
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Haste_2 | Posted 8/25/2007 9:06:03 PM | message detail
The x-stats fun continues:

76.03% - Dante
23.97% - Little Mac

26.41% - Isaac
23.29% - Pikachu
50.30% - Tidus

35.13% - Leon Kennedy
20.36% - Ridley
13.18% - Spyro the Dragon
31.34% - Vivi Ornitier

74.00% - Kirby
2600% - Laharl

48.91% - DK
51.09% - Kratos

77.66% - Solid Snake
22.34% - Vyse

61.59% - Riku
38.41% - Ryu Hayabusa

34.85% - Aeris Gainsborough
15.80% - Geno
49.35% - Squall Leonhart

58.49% - Sora
16.64% - Albert Wesker
24.87% - Lara Croft

34.37% - Duke Nukem
50.45% - Gordon Freeman
15.19% - Guybrush Threepwood

42.54% - Sonic the Hedgehog
24.12% - Sub-Zero
17.44% - Prince of Persia
15.89% - Viewtiful Joe

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cyko | Posted 8/25/2007 9:44:15 PM | message detail

Neo Tanner? Not Agent 47, but this man... oh yes.


oh, no. Nathan Hale WILL be the Neo Tanner. forget Jay Solano and Matt. this loser is going to set the new standard in Contest patheicism. lowest performer ever!

BOOK IT!

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Heroic TuRtLe | Posted 8/25/2007 10:12:38 PM | message detail
74.00% - Kirby
2600% - Laharl


o god laharl > link confirmed

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transience | Posted 8/25/2007 10:45:14 PM | message detail
catchin' up here.


Yeah, you say that kinda stuff all the time, but yet we've SEEN it happen. People go Yoshi > Pac-Man > Luigi. People go Cloud > Vyse > Tifa. It does happen, regardless of how unlikely you think it is.


oh, it happens. it's just FAR less likely than the stats would predict it to be. remember when Tifa was winning the contest because she smashed Vyse? yeah. Kirby being there instead of Yoshi isn't going to change a whole lot there.

on gamefaqs being "racist" - ha. sorry, Link isn't suddenly going to be fodder if he got a palette swap! Matt will do fine - or at the very least, he wouldn't do significantly better if he was white. I actually think his character design is far more recognizable and likable than if that was a boring-ass white dude.

on punch-out! - I guarantee more people know the name "Little Mac" than they do "Amaterasu". hell, I'm SURE more people know Little Mac than Matt the Mii, but the pictures will change all of that when the time comes. I just don't think enough people will vote for a mii.

and uh get this amaterasu/dante sff cra out of my stats topic please, next you'll be discussing phoenix wright/dante sff
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transience | Posted 8/25/2007 10:45:27 PM | message detail
cra, crap, same thing
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MMXcalibur | Posted 8/25/2007 10:52:48 PM | message detail
How well do you guys think Marth will do? He's been in SSB, so I'm reluctant to put Kratos over him in 2nd place (behind DK).
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/25/2007 10:59:31 PM | message detail
he's weaker than Falcon most likely.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/25/2007 11:20:36 PM | message detail
anyone think Kratos Aurion has a chance in his pack?
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/25/2007 11:29:40 PM | message detail
How well do you guys think Marth will do? He's been in SSB, so I'm reluctant to put Kratos over him in 2nd place (behind DK).

You have DK > Kratos? WTF? You forget about GoW2 or something?

next you'll be discussing phoenix wright/dante sff

aww yeah capcom sff
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/26/2007 1:19:38 AM | message detail
I'll say it again -- Prince of Cosmos should have been replaced by Diddy Kong. The battle for second between DK, Diddy, and Marth would have caused so much hell.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 8/26/2007 2:01:24 AM | message detail
Wait what, there are so some who haven't played Punch-OuT?

Oh yeah, I'm starting to gdt old, I'm 19. And on this site there are people who was even to young to have played the Mega Drive/ Super Nintendo games.... But anyway Little Mac is far from obscure. Almost everyone who played on a NES back in the early 90's knows that Punch-Out is an excellent game (Easily top 10 on the Nes) and cconsidering that the average age on Gamefaqs is about 20, I would say at least 30% have played Punch-OUt, it's after all a Nes classic. But will they vote for Little Mac over Link? Remember, Punch-Out is a game where you are more likely to love the opponents more than the main character.....
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/26/2007 7:39:31 AM | message detail
I've been playing video games since I was 2. I had beaten Super C and the NES Mario games by the time I was 4. I have never played Punch-Out or Super Punch-Out.

While I think whoever it was posted it before may be underestimating Punch-Out's player-base, it is still nowhere near the size of the major franchises, especially with the GameFAQs demographic seemingly younger than ever. I think Matt takes this match on Wii association alone. We all know how popular the Wii has been this year, and Matt is basicallyj the Wii representative for the contest.

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voltch | Posted 8/26/2007 8:04:32 AM | message detail
Does anyone have an idea for what Alucard's plan holds in store for us?
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/26/2007 9:14:11 AM | message detail
anyone think Jade can squeak a win?
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BDawg | Posted 8/26/2007 9:58:26 AM | message detail
I think Jade can be the second member of the "Horrible Jade Fodder" hall of fame.
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Xuxon | Posted 8/26/2007 10:19:24 AM | message detail
Alucard's plan is to wreck brackets with his round 2 victory over Master Chief (Yuna unfortunately gets 1st).
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Radix | Posted 8/26/2007 10:25:54 AM | message detail
From: MarioSuperstar | Posted: 8/26/2007 12:14:11 PM | #223
anyone think Jade can squeak a win?

Me >>


And clearly, Mac and Matt suffer from boxing sff and that other dude wins
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/26/2007 11:19:34 AM | message detail
I've been playing video games since I was 2. I had beaten Super C and the NES Mario games by the time I was 4. I have never played Punch-Out or Super Punch-Out.

But you're not a person
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/26/2007 1:28:11 PM | message detail
anyone think Jade can squeak a win?

TotA wasn't nearly as big of a seller as ToS was...Jade won't even be close to Kratos Aurion.
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swirIdude | Posted 8/26/2007 3:03:06 PM | message detail
And clearly, Mac and Matt suffer from boxing sff and that other dude wins

If you mean Ammy, dude's a lady.
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Osfan | Posted 8/26/2007 3:17:04 PM | message detail
Seriously though what does everyone think of the first round match that is at the end of division 5. Liquid has proven his worth, Alucard seems like hes steadily going down, Ness is questionable, and Zidane is totally random with the SFF he took. I've got Liquid over Ness but I wouldn't be suprised to see any of those characters win especially in this format...
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ToadYoshi | Posted 8/26/2007 3:39:20 PM | message detail
To say that Alucard has dropped to the level of Liquid, Ness, and Zidane is crazy. Alucard has the first match under control for sure, the only question is the next match. Alucad, Yuna, and Master Chief are all meeting, and one of them is gonna get snubbed. Finding out which one is going to be the key to the division.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/26/2007 4:10:57 PM | message detail
if you really think alucard is on par with Yuna and MC, rather than the Ness' of the world, I dont know what to tell you.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/26/2007 5:02:36 PM | message detail
I'm taking Ness > Alucard. Three stars of the PS1 are duking it out and Ness pre-Nintendo Boost did as well on Auron pre-KH2 as Alucard did post-KH2...not that I'm doubting that Auron jumped much, but this format and particular match will probably still allow Ness to edge it out. The EB fanbase is strong and SSBB-hype/SSBM is huge here, so...that's my guess for the winner while the other PS1-stars duke it out.

As for Alucard, I figure he's the strongest of the other three, he recently had C:SotN ported to Xbox Live, and I think he's going to have a firm fanbase as well since C:SotN did so well in the Top 100 List (#15, I think). Granted, series-wise CV would be up against MGS and FF, but Zidane's a horrible rep to bring into this fight and Alucard is more to CV than Liquid to MGS as I understand it. I'm rolling with Alucard for this one.


Either way, this match is going to be a complete dogfight between all four involved.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/26/2007 5:21:33 PM | message detail
I have Alucard > Ness, because I think the whole PS1 SFF thing is a load of crock. If Ness wins that one, it's because he's the only Nintendo character of the 4.

But I think SotN being on XBLA might be the deciding factor here.

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therealmnm | Posted 8/26/2007 6:35:24 PM | message detail
I'm definitely not automatically giving Ness the automatic win. He's not exactly a pillar of popularity over the others. I don't care that he's the only Nintendo character in the group, he's not going to automatically get the votes of the entire Nintendo fanbase. He may automatically get the votes of the Nintendo fans who simply aren't familiar with any of the other 3, but for those that know the characters, the vote is easily up for grabs, especially between Alucard and Ness. And Liquid is definitely going to get his share of the votes. Ness isn't going to be immune to that just because he's Nintendo.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/26/2007 6:47:30 PM | message detail
Of course Ness is not a lock, and I'm not calling for PS1-SFF either...I'm just saying that three of them come from the same era on the same system, so that would give a fourth different character a bit of potential breathing room...and given that fourth character is Nintendo, it's quite possible he takes advantage of it. One-on-one, I'd take Alucard and maybe Liquid over Ness...but in this format and in this particular match, Ness is in a rather good position.

I would be caught a lil' off guard if the two who advance in this four-pack finish with 55+% though, and I don't think any of them will hit 30% either. Again, it's heated, but given this format which can benefit Ness and the three opponents having their aforementioned similarities, I think Ness is the one to edge it out.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 8/26/2007 7:38:34 PM | message detail
I don't believe in the "Ness will win #1 because he is Nintendo" either, there are many Nintendo fans that are pretty much sitting on the fence. They'll take a look at the three others and will fall off the fence if they see another face they like more. Ness to me doesn't sound like someone that will attract votes via name recognition like other Nintendo character would.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/26/2007 8:53:26 PM | message detail
You know, I just realized that Zidane making it out of that fourpack would really blow up alot of Board 8 brackets, and it's actually pretty possible considering the only time we saw him before was a first round SFF beatdown at Crono's hands.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/26/2007 8:57:54 PM | message detail
But I thought NO ONE liked FF9 lolololol Kuja lol MH
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/26/2007 9:14:55 PM | message detail
You raise a good point

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creativename | Posted 8/26/2007 10:11:14 PM | message detail
All this discussion over Matt vs. Little Mac vs. Amatseratu, three of the weakest characters in the bracket. Wow!

Anyone have links to pictures of Matt and Amatseratu?

I think for Matt, it will be important whether he's listed as "Matt the Mii" or just "Matt". I think if he's just Matt, he'll be incredibly weak, whereas if he's listed as a Mii he might be somewhat stronger. If I knew now that he'd be listed as "Matt", I don't think I could take him over Little Mac.

One thing about a 4-way match is that while minor factors should have exaggerated importance, the picture might actually be less important because each character will be smaller. No real idea what the overall effect might be there.
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Lopen | Posted 8/26/2007 10:18:12 PM | message detail
Ya know, I don't think MGS: The Twin Snakes is getting enough cred in the Ness/Alucard/Liquid 4 pack. I mean, it's typically not a huge factor, but you've gotta figure that a lot of these supposed "Nintendo only" people that Ness pickers are banking on will have played it, since it would be their only way to try the famed MGS series.

And... don't forget Castlevania 3 either!
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/26/2007 10:19:46 PM | message detail
I just don't trust Liquid in a match with Ness and Alucard.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/26/2007 10:22:06 PM | message detail
I have yet to find a single picture of Matt.

Ammy, however, has amazing and kickass stylish pictures of her:

http://www.nekofever.com/images/okami.jpg
http://www.heartofthewolf.org/OkamiFinal.jpg
http://inquirerbloggers.net/hackenslash/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/okami.jpg

Shame she doesn't have a chance. :(
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/26/2007 10:23:20 PM | message detail
I dunno, the pic factor might actually help Amaretsu.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/26/2007 10:23:51 PM | message detail
*Amatseratu
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Draco1214 | Posted 8/26/2007 10:24:35 PM | message detail
Ammy doesn't have a chance? But just look at her competition...
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/26/2007 10:24:57 PM | message detail
...it's "Amaterasu", by the way there everyone

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And I've just demonstrated why she has no chance.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/26/2007 10:25:48 PM | message detail
For the life of me I can never spell the name right, so I'm just gonna call it the Okami character >_>
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/26/2007 10:26:30 PM | message detail
Bad competition or not, I can't bring myself to have faith in Okami. Not against Nintendo (even if the Nintendo there is bottom of the barrel)
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