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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 453
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/24/2007 1:57:07 PM | message detail |
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so who'd win in a direct match-up between the block and Laharl? --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/24/2007 1:58:18 PM | message detail |
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We've seen CATS almost take down Ansem. Beating Laharl wouldn't be that hard of an accomplishment. --- Currently playing: Call of Duty 2, Maverick Hunter X, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Dead Rising, Tomb Raider Legend |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/24/2007 2:02:33 PM | message detail |
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Direct match I'd take L-block The only chance Laharl has here is if the format does indeed favour obscure characters. TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/24/2007 2:03:18 PM | message detail |
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well, true. I just think there's a good portion of people who'd vote
for L-Block just for it being a Tetris representative, and that some of
them might be Nintendo fans as well. --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/24/2007 2:08:10 PM | message detail |
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For what it's worth, Pac-Man also has real fans and respect. L-Block, not so much. I'm looking at L-Block like a weaker CATS joke-wise, yet more recognizable than any other character in the poll. It'll be interesting to see how it goes. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/24/2007 2:13:41 PM | message detail |
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Being a joke character doesn't mean that all your votes are joke votes.
You're never going to convince me that 21000 people joke-voted for
Nidoran F against Samus, or that CATS vs. Ansem proves that over 30000
people just joke vote. People actually like
these characters, and they also benefit greatly from anti-votes.
Nidoran F got tons of votes from people who were simply Pokemon fans,
and some from Samus anti-voters too. I doubt that she got any more than
a few thousand votes (if that) simply because she's a funny joke. There
will be people voting for the L-Block for legitimate reasons
(probably mainly because it's a representative of Tetris). If you think
it's stuck with just joke votes, it has no chance at all to beat Laharl. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/24/2007 2:23:12 PM | message detail |
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Mac... I guarentee you less than 1% of the people who voted in
CATS/Ansem actually played Zero Wing. CATS draws his strength from a
hilarious (albeit old) internet fad. L-block will draw his strength
from the fact that the idea of an inanimate Tetris shape being in the
contest is funny. Nidoran F also got her strength from the fact that it was some random crappy early-game Pokemon going up against Samus Aran. Of this year's joke characters, I think the only one who won't impress is Bidoof because his faddiness is pretty much limited to Board 8, but luckily he has a great draw. TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| ZenOfThunder | Posted 8/24/2007 2:24:24 PM | message detail |
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I played Zero Wing for like 2 seconds once. >_> --- (|| ' ' ||) ~Zen is sad that Yoshimitsu didn't make it into the Character Battle. . /|_|\ I don't like Haley Scarnato. |
| ZenOfThunder | Posted 8/24/2007 2:25:14 PM | message detail |
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Of this year's joke characters, I think the only one who won't
impress is Bidoof because his faddiness is pretty much limited to Board
8, but luckily he has a great draw. What?! Like every casual Pokemon player I know has made a big joke of Bidoof, and I've seen him mentioned on a lot of other boards as well. --- (|| ' ' ||) ~Zen is sad that Yoshimitsu didn't make it into the Character Battle. . /|_|\ I don't like Haley Scarnato. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/24/2007 2:25:59 PM | message detail |
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98% of the site played Tetris. is it really hard to picture L-Block
being voted for just because it has affiliation with Tetris and not a
joke? --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/24/2007 2:27:00 PM | message detail |
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well, at least a portion. not all of it but a portion. --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/24/2007 2:27:22 PM | message detail |
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absolutely, it'll get some Tetris votes. like mine. but that doesn't mean it gets "SFFed" or some such, maybe by | block or something since he's the badass of the Tetris world --- scrumptious cats |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/24/2007 2:28:42 PM | message detail |
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That's like saying the Minesweeper happy face would do great because 80% of the site has played Minesweeper. L-block may get some diehard Tetris fan votes, but who's really a diehard Tetris fan? Tetris is just a good game everyone has played at least once to kill an hour or 2. The vast majority of L-blocks votes will be joke votes. TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/24/2007 2:31:30 PM | message detail |
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I guarentee you less than 1% of the people who voted in CATS/Ansem
actually played Zero Wing. CATS draws his strength from a hilarious
(albeit old) internet fad. Yes. But people have to like the fad before it'll get votes. And they have to like that specific character as well. CATS gets a lot more love than, say, the Captain. Given my relative apathy to most characters, it's not hard for me to like CATS (who really is awesome) more than them. Or for me to be a Tetris fan and vote the L-Block over the other contestants. Sure, it's a slightly funny joke (if not as funny as the Tetris vs. Pong picture or Duke Milkem), but it's also a better character than the competition (IMO). Sadly, I doubt that most people will agree with me, and thus, the L-Block will not win. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| ZFS | Posted 8/24/2007 2:38:24 PM | message detail |
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l-block haters in my stats topic --- Believe |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/24/2007 2:58:01 PM | message detail |
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98% of the site played Tetris. is it really hard to picture L-Block
being voted for just because it has affiliation with Tetris and not a
joke? L-Block being in the contest will definitely be looked at as a joke. The fact that said joke is from a game as widely played as Tetris amplifies it. I don't think saying it's a smaller joke than CATS does it justice. Yeah, All Your Base was an internet fad, but that doesn't mean that everyone was familiar with the joke. CATS' appearance in 2k2 was actually the first I've ever even heard about him or the fad. Someone who doesn't know about the fad has very little reason to vote for CATS. He's just some random video game character to them. On the other hand, the "joke" behind an L-Block from Tetris being in the contest would be something that everyone gets. Don't underestimate it... --- Currently playing: Call of Duty 2, Maverick Hunter X, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Dead Rising, Tomb Raider Legend |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/24/2007 3:02:01 PM | message detail |
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CATS' appearance in 2k2 was actually the first I've ever even heard
about him or the fad. Someone who doesn't know about the fad has very
little reason to vote for CATS. The AYBABTU fad is one of the most popular of all time. I'd contend that at least as many people on GameFAQs are familiar with it as are familiar with FFVII. Recognition is not an issue, here. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 8/24/2007 3:03:01 PM | message detail |
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I can't believe people think Sora will beat Aeris in Round 2. --- Fc: 4768 3939 5325 |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/24/2007 3:07:29 PM | message detail |
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I would expect L-Block to be the biggest joke vote magnet of anyone,
myself. What worries me, though, is that L-Block will likely need a
higher percentage than Mudkip, Bidoof, CATS, or (maybe) Matt would need
in order to achieve second place. Yoshi failed to triple Laharl, so I'd
imagine KIrby would fail to triple Laharl... Given that... if Kirby got 50%, Laharl would probably get close to 20%. Is it reasonable to think that L-Block could get 20% almost entirely on joke votes? L-Block would be fodder of the lowest kind without the joke votes, I'm sure (not that any poll could prove such a thing, though). All other joke characters have a little something to give them some base strength, anyway. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/24/2007 3:09:59 PM | message detail |
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it's weird how 25% on Yoshi is suddenly a crowning achievement. Ryo
Hazuki got about that. 25% is not much of an accomplishment unless you
get it on Link or something. --- scrumptious cats |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 8/24/2007 3:10:56 PM | message detail |
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Ryo Hazuki is a mid-carder though. He got about rhe same on Guybrush as Bowser --- Fc: 4768 3939 5325 |
| ZFS | Posted 8/24/2007 3:12:11 PM | message detail |
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it's weird how 25% on Yoshi is suddenly a crowning achievement. Ryo
Hazuki got about that. 25% is not much of an accomplishment unless you
get it on Link or something. Haha. That's what I was thinking. Whenever I think of Laharl it's "the guy that got 60/40'd by Vyse." --- Believe |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/24/2007 3:12:28 PM | message detail |
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Still, though, would you be confident in L-Block getting 20% of the vote? --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/24/2007 3:13:07 PM | message detail |
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moreso than I would be of Laharl getting 20%! --- scrumptious cats |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/24/2007 3:14:48 PM | message detail |
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Kirby is not a noble-niner or anything. Laharl probably wouldn't have problems getting 20%... --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/24/2007 3:15:51 PM | message detail |
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I'm not buying people going Samus > Laharl > Kirby or something like that. it's really not going to matter when people don't know who you are. --- xyzzy |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/24/2007 3:16:17 PM | message detail |
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Poll 1488 (01/04/2004) BEST OF 2003: Best PlayStation2 Game 3630 5.79% Dark Cloud 2 5716 9.11% Disgaea: Hour of Darkness 23628 37.66% Final Fantasy X-2 3179 5.07% Jak II 4215 6.72% Need for Speed Underground 6597 10.51% Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time 3483 5.55% Ratchet and Clank: Going Commando 5390 8.59% SOCOM II: U.S. Navy SEALs 2203 3.51% Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution 4705 7.50% WWE SmackDown! Here Comes the Pain Disgaea did pretty good here.. I.. guess? man, 2003 really sucked. --- scrumptious cats |
| ZFS | Posted 8/24/2007 3:18:03 PM | message detail |
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5716 9.11% Disgaea: Hour of Darkness 5390 8.59% SOCOM II: U.S. Navy SEAL Barnburner right there. --- Believe |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/24/2007 3:18:54 PM | message detail |
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Wait, now you think that Laharl is automatically getting 20% in this poll? --- Currently playing: Call of Duty 2, Maverick Hunter X, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Dead Rising, Tomb Raider Legend |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/24/2007 3:20:49 PM | message detail |
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I don't understand why the L-Block seems so overwhelmingly favored over
Laharl here. Would you take Master Hand over Laharl in a poll like this? --- Currently Playing: Metroid Prime 2: Echoes, Persona 3 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/24/2007 3:20:57 PM | message detail |
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The AYBABTU fad is one of the most popular of all time. I'd contend
that at least as many people on GameFAQs are familiar with it as are
familiar with FFVII. Recognition is not an issue, here. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2186 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2333 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1313 Granted, it's still one of the most popular fads of all time...but don't put its general popularity nor familiarity near FF7 on GameFAQs. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/24/2007 3:21:17 PM | message detail |
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I'm not buying people going Samus > Laharl > Kirby or
something like that. it's really not going to matter when people don't
know who you are. Which is why Laharl will do better in a multi-option setting. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/24/2007 3:22:12 PM | message detail |
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Not while Kirby's in the poll, Master Hand ain't! I with there was a fourpack of Link/Cloud/Master Hand/Kuja now..... --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/24/2007 3:23:00 PM | message detail |
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heh, would you take Laharl over Master Hand? I wouldn't.. --- scrumptious cats |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/24/2007 3:27:37 PM | message detail |
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In a poll like this, definitely. Master Hand's match with Dr. Robotnik
proved to me that it would fold against something even remotely
recognizable. L-Block has to hold up against Kirby in the fourway poll.
Add to that, Laharl's devoted following, and I think it's enough for
Laharl to easily beat the tetris block. --- Currently Playing: Metroid Prime 2: Echoes, Persona 3 |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/24/2007 3:28:05 PM | message detail |
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I mean in a regular poll. of course Master Hand would get rocked in this particular fourpack. --- scrumptious cats |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/24/2007 3:29:44 PM | message detail |
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I probably would take Master Hand one-on-one, yeah...but MH got 40% on
Dr. Robotnik before getting 28% on Ganon in 2k5...Laharl got 25% on
Yoshi in 2k5. Then again, stats go out the window with such fodder too. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/24/2007 3:40:12 PM | message detail |
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I don't understand why the L-Block seems so overwhelmingly favored
over Laharl here. Would you take Master Hand over Laharl in a poll like
this? Yes. --- Currently playing: Call of Duty 2, Maverick Hunter X, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Dead Rising, Tomb Raider Legend |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/24/2007 3:53:33 PM | message detail |
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I don't understand why the L-Block seems so overwhelmingly favored
over Laharl here. Would you take Master Hand over Laharl in a poll like
this? Yes Kuja lost to MH and he's the main villain of a Final Fantasy game. Add to that Nintendo boost to boot. TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/24/2007 3:57:07 PM | message detail |
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I'm tired of this Laharl 25% on Yoshi thing. Laharl got 25% on Yoshi in
a poll where the options were Yoshi and Not Yoshi. It's going to be completely
different in this setting. I seriously doubt Laharl will hold that
ratio with 2 other options in the poll. Not ALL of that 25% made up
diehard Laharl fans ya know... --- Currently playing: Call of Duty 2, Maverick Hunter X, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Dead Rising, Tomb Raider Legend |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/24/2007 4:15:04 PM | message detail |
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Laharl got 26% on Yoshi, and I don't see how he'd do worse on Kirby.
Then, take into account that now there are two options left for Laharl
voters to go to after Kirby: L-Block and Nathan Hale (I think
>_>). Logically, Laharl wouldn't lose too much more percentage. On the contrary, L-Block could be of decent strength, and I wouldn't be surprised if L-Block would win against Laharl one-on-one... as funny as that may sound. But, CATS has shown quite a bit of linearity, so any old joke character might be, too. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/24/2007 4:20:18 PM | message detail |
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Robotnik got about 24% on Ganondorf, or something like that. he ranked lower than Ansem I believe. --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| KrahenProphet | Posted 8/24/2007 4:24:47 PM | message detail |
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I'm surprised how little faith Laharl is getting here. Besides talking
about how much people may vote for L-block, why not also bring up the
fact that there are people out there that like Laharl too. In fact the
type of game Laharl is from, well this site is geared for it. Also, I don't think it's fair to compare L-block to CATS. CATS consistently gets into this contest. CATS is from one of THE BIGGEST fads on the internet. ever. I'd give Leeroy Jenkins credit as the only other really big fad since that one. Sure everyone knows Tetris, but how many people would even put it in their top 10 games? We know games=/=characters, so we have to guess a bit in determining the popularity of the L-block. I'm actually the kind of person would is likely to use his vote not for the coolest character, but the dumbest looking one, so I would pick L-block. Unfortunately, though, most people I've met are most likely to actually pick the character they admire the most. --- Official 4th place winner of Summer Contest 2k4 |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/24/2007 4:26:37 PM | message detail |
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me. :) I hope you're not comparing Disgaea to Tetris here. that's no contest. --- xyzzy now playing: PW3, Jeanne d'Arc |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/24/2007 5:08:45 PM | message detail |
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CATS is from one of THE BIGGEST fads on the internet. ever. L-Block doesn't need to be a big fad. The joke is self-sustaining. --- Currently playing: Call of Duty 2, Maverick Hunter X, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Dead Rising, Tomb Raider Legend |
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| Haste_2 | Posted 8/24/2007 9:30:19 PM | message detail |
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More (nearly) useless stats. I put together Round 1 results based
entirely on x-stats, among those characters we have data of...
basically I used Ngamer's 2K6 x-stats and creative's stats for past
years... unless they were clearly off, in which case I adjusted them. 36.53% - Knuckles 25.56% - Rikku 37.91% - Yoshi 24.97% - Diablo 20.80% - KOS-MOS 54.23% - Mega Man 18.53% - Axel 20.58% - Frog 50.30% - Samus 10.58% - Sarah Kerrigan 23.08% - Agent 47 32.53% - Kratos Aurion 44.33% - Scorpion 76.18% - Kefka 23.82% - Tom Nook 65.16% - Cloud Strife 17.63% - Jill Valentine 17.21% - Revolver Ocelot 54.95% - Auron 10.59% - Pyramid Head 34.50% - Shadow the Hedgehog 50.31% - Bowser 49.69% - Ryu That's the first fourth of the first round, anyway. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/24/2007 9:30:48 PM | message detail |
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Sure everyone knows Tetris, but how many people would even put it in their top 10 games? As voted on by people picking their top ten games, check out #34: http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/top10 YES! YES!!! IT'S BEEN SO LOOOOONG!!!!! =P --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/24/2007 9:52:50 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1401 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1400 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2793 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1890 Just wanted to also point out that, although the puzzle genre isn't particularly loved here, Tetris certainly not only remains its main face but even transcends it as the Top 100 List would have you believe. Tetris is the Tiger Woods of puzzle games. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| Xuxon | Posted 8/24/2007 9:59:25 PM | message detail |
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Just wondering... how did you apply the x-stats with a multi-way
battle? I came up with something general that I think works but it's
long and annoying. PS my oracle prediction on the Samus match is damn close to that. I didn't even try to calculate it with stats. --- NLB - Level 97/98/98/99/99/99, 39 hunts completed - Undying defeated |
