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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 453

UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/22/2007 7:53:40 AM | message detail
Happy anniversary to Ults!



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.GameFAQsContests.com
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19


*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left):
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/


*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html


*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm


*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, and thanks to RockMFR for finding the missing ones!
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php


*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

All Time Top 10 Lists:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2002stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2003stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/spring2004stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2004stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/spring2005stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2005stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/july2006stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2006stats.htm

HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007

TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

Aprosenf's Poll Script:
http://www.geocities.com/aprosenf/allpolls.txt

GameFAQs' Top 100 Games
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/top10

Manual Poll Updater:
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/pollupdate.php



Contest in two weeks <3
Ed Bellis | Posted 8/22/2007 7:58:59 AM | message detail
SO SOON?!?!??!??!??hapyanversry
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 8/22/2007 8:04:47 AM | message detail
CATS > Sephiroth
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WhakkoJacko | Posted 8/22/2007 8:05:25 AM | message detail
Zolom > Jill > Ocelot > Cloud
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adamjaxe | Posted 8/22/2007 9:08:15 AM | message detail
i have mudkipz going all the way am i screweded
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Haste_2 | Posted 8/22/2007 6:49:18 PM | message detail
Knuckles > Yoshi
Wario > Fox
Sephiroth > CATS

There we are... my failuriffic upset specials.

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ToadYoshi | Posted 8/22/2007 7:04:20 PM | message detail
Yoshi > Knux
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Draco1214 | Posted 8/22/2007 7:16:37 PM | message detail
CATS > everyone
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/23/2007 4:50:00 AM | message detail
Mudkipz > bracket

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Kosmo Trainer | Posted 8/23/2007 4:53:20 AM | message detail
I know I'm not the most avid follower of these topics, but could you include a link to my XStat calc on NGamer's site?
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MGS and LoK fan | Posted 8/23/2007 4:57:50 AM | message detail
*Won't even bother filling in a contest form on general principal, after seeing those Square/Nintendo characters in it who already won before*

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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/23/2007 4:58:53 AM | message detail
That's silly.
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Heroic Viktor | Posted 8/23/2007 5:05:17 AM | message detail
I think America needs to switch to a work on weekends, turn M-F into days off. Seriously.

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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 8/23/2007 5:08:36 AM | message detail
Mudkipz > bracket


Bad Ulti, its:

Mudkipz ====D bracket
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/23/2007 11:06:14 PM | message detail
haha

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steve illumina | Posted 8/24/2007 12:35:49 PM | message detail
Aint you all glad I am back? I know Ulti is :)
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swirIdude | Posted 8/24/2007 12:43:17 PM | message detail
Every time I see HM hyping Halo 3 I start to think having MC far is the wrong move. Someone ease my pain.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/24/2007 12:43:17 PM | message detail
UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/24/2007 12:38:52 PM | message detail
From charmander6000 Posted 8/24/2007 2:14:42 PM #490
This is directly from Slow himself.

I don't know what's worse, the ToC or the fact that you don't need to be a real character to enter these things anymore. So if anyone on board 8 asks, no, I'm not going back there.




That a recent post or an old stat topic post?


It was actually posted yesterday.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/24/2007 12:44:23 PM | message detail
With this new format, I have a feeling we won't be seeing steve around here for very long.

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therealmnm | Posted 8/24/2007 12:46:11 PM | message detail
I don't know what's worse, the ToC or the fact that you don't need to be a real character to enter these things anymore. So if anyone on board 8 asks, no, I'm not going back there.

If someone needs to use an excuse like that to stay away from the board, more power to him. I don't take these contests nowhere near serious enough to let something like joke characters bother me.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/24/2007 12:53:51 PM | message detail
Why would Kirby SFF L-block?! I'm not seeing the logic.

it's just.. looking at how bad it did against Zelda, Kirby will steal some Tetris votes. not a lot, but they're both on the original Game Boy quite a lot.
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steve illumina | Posted 8/24/2007 12:55:40 PM | message detail
With this new format, I have a feeling we won't be seeing steve around here for very long.

And what new format do you mean? The 4 way voting thing? HA! This actually favors the Sage of Board 8, who had one of the longest running Perfects in the Series Contest last year, angering scores of noobs in the process. You could not possibly have forgotten this little tidbit, could ya? :)

And in addition to that, my time away from the boards since Resident Evil beat my upset pick of Street Fighter has allowed me to do extensive research and calculations on all of these characters who are present, and many others such as Dr. W who did not make it, all while preparing myself for the long overdue glory and GameFAQS immortality I am destined to achieve!

So yah, I'll be around awhile, much to the enjoyment of many! :)


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smitelf | Posted 8/24/2007 1:01:27 PM | message detail
it's just.. looking at how bad it did against Zelda, Kirby will steal some Tetris votes. not a lot, but they're both on the original Game Boy quite a lot.

Tetris has been on pretty much every platform ever.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/24/2007 1:02:20 PM | message detail
*Tags*

Halo 3 hype is gonna job

*Leaves*
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therealmnm | Posted 8/24/2007 1:04:19 PM | message detail
Uhhhh, since when do joke characters get SFF'd? If anything, the SFF would benefit them...
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LinkLegend27 | Posted 8/24/2007 1:04:44 PM | message detail
And what new format do you mean? The 4 way voting thing? HA! This actually favors the Sage of Board 8, who had one of the longest running Perfects in the Series Contest last year, angering scores of noobs in the process. You could not possibly have forgotten this little tidbit, could ya? :)

And in addition to that, my time away from the boards since Resident Evil beat my upset pick of Street Fighter has allowed me to do extensive research and calculations on all of these characters who are present, and many others such as Dr. W who did not make it, all while preparing myself for the long overdue glory and GameFAQS immortality I am destined to achieve!

So yah, I'll be around awhile, much to the enjoyment of many! :)


STEVE! STEVE!


ILLUMINA! ILLUMINA!


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smitelf | Posted 8/24/2007 1:05:53 PM | message detail
From therealmnm
Uhhhh, since when do joke characters get SFF'd? If anything, the SFF would benefit them...

I'm not too sure of that in Midgar Zolom's case...
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steve illumina | Posted 8/24/2007 1:06:38 PM | message detail
I salute you, LinkLegend :)
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therealmnm | Posted 8/24/2007 1:07:34 PM | message detail
I wasn't entirely serious... but Zolom is a special case. His joke is that he gets killed.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/24/2007 1:12:43 PM | message detail
Regarding Slow...I think he's just looking for reasons to stay off of the boards for the most part. I remember when he came back after his first big break from the board that it did him lots of wonders, and this is the second minor thing that's driven him away from the contests...even after the first thing has been fixed for him. Besides, there's double the characters for this contest...you've gotta expect some joke characters given the size of some rallies Board 8 has. Pretty sure Slow is just trying to keep away now.




Regarding L-Block...it's not so much what LoZ did to Tetris that's scary, it's that Kirby is really well-known and isn't a PS1/2-star. That gives Laharl a bit more room to breath while L-Block is struggling for votes outside of simple recognition. Had Kirby been replaced with somebody less immediately recognizable and on the PS1/2, even if they had the same strength (like Kratos), then L-Block would have an even better chance. As is, decent chance to gamble on...but it's a tough one.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/24/2007 1:20:48 PM | message detail
if Kirby was replaced with a different character that wasn't well well-known, I'd definitely have it in second, but Kirby IS going to take somewhat the votes L-Block would have received otherwise. if Zelda can do it, I think Kirby would at least split.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/24/2007 1:24:50 PM | message detail
Come on guys.

SFF applying to joke characters doesn't make sense.
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smitelf | Posted 8/24/2007 1:27:27 PM | message detail
Your logic doesn't seem...well, logical. Yes, Zelda wiped the floor with Tetris - but L-block doesn't have to beat Link or even Kirby. It has to beat Laharl and some other guy.

There's no reason for SFF just because both Kirby and L-block are well-known. Kirby will win by a landslide, so the question becomes whether the L-block joke voters can overcome the Disgaea fans.
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trannyscience | Posted 8/24/2007 1:28:50 PM | message detail
hey now, I am deeply rooted in my L-block fanboyism and object to your use of the term "joke voters".
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/24/2007 1:28:56 PM | message detail
it's just.. looking at how bad it did against Zelda, Kirby will steal some Tetris votes. not a lot, but they're both on the original Game Boy quite a lot.

That's the worst comparison I've ever seen.

For starters, Kirby is not Zelda and doesn't have nearly as much Nintendo vote sucking power.

Secondly, Tetris wasn't a joke character whereas L-block is. Trying to apply SFF in this situation is pointlessly stupid.

Just face the facts, some crappy obscure RPG character is going to lose to 4 squares in the shape of an L

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therealmnm | Posted 8/24/2007 1:29:54 PM | message detail
Exactly. I mean, if that's the case, then Kirby would hurt any joke character, not just L-Block. SFF is meaningless in that case.
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linkhatesganon | Posted 8/24/2007 1:30:29 PM | message detail
I guess this is the best place to ask for it, so, what are raws?

I have been searching today at x-stats. At first, I thought raw was nothing, but today I discovered this:

Tifa (not raw): 41.01
Tifa (raw): 45.4

What's that? And this, too

Jay Solano (raw): 58.4 (or something like that)
Not raw: 2.83

I guess what it is this, but I want a complete explaination about raws
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therealmnm | Posted 8/24/2007 1:30:43 PM | message detail
I was responding to Dranze, btw
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therealmnm | Posted 8/24/2007 1:32:11 PM | message detail
Tifa (not raw): 41.01
Tifa (raw): 45.4


Why did I look at this and immediately get sexual connotations from it?
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linkhatesganon | Posted 8/24/2007 1:43:53 PM | message detail
Because Tifa is the sexiest character ever, of course! (Specially at that pic, that one vs. Samus. Best pic ever (and posibly best match, too)!)
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/24/2007 1:44:00 PM | message detail
all I'm saying is that I think L-Block would get more votes if you just replace Kirby with a character around the same strength with a different kind of affiliation.. say someone like.. Aeris.
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trannyscience | Posted 8/24/2007 1:45:16 PM | message detail
L-Block isn't Pac-Man. it's a freaking Tetris block!
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/24/2007 1:48:03 PM | message detail
yeah, L-Block is giving me the Pac-Man feeling. that's a good comparison to what I'm talking about, but eh.
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smitelf | Posted 8/24/2007 1:50:07 PM | message detail
From MarioSuperstar
yeah, L-Block is giving me the Pac-Man feeling. that's a good comparison to what I'm talking about, but eh.

I don't get why, but okay.
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therealmnm | Posted 8/24/2007 1:50:33 PM | message detail
But Tetris block doesn't HAVE an affiliation! Kirby being in there makes no difference than any other strong character.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/24/2007 1:50:56 PM | message detail
though the only difference is that L-Block is getting joke votes and Pac-Man doesn't get down like that.
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Master Moltar | Posted 8/24/2007 1:52:21 PM | message detail
Raw numbers are like an ugly girl. There's nothing to her but the cold, hard truth that she is hideous. When we see something raw that we don't like, we adjust it to fix it up.

Adjusted numbers are like taking the ugly girl and giving her make-up and nice clothing. Now she's pretty and looks right, and the whole world can now accept her.

And seriously Kirby/L-Block SFF....seriously?
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therealmnm | Posted 8/24/2007 1:52:42 PM | message detail
Pac-Man isn't a joke character though... he's a character that everyone knows who had been in every character battle up until 2005. We're talking about a freakin' L-block in a character battle. Totally different voting mentality.
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trannyscience | Posted 8/24/2007 1:53:46 PM | message detail
you could put Link, Mario and Cloud in a poll with L-block and he probably wouldn't suffer much. he's going to get a certain amount of votes no matter what. think CATS.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/24/2007 1:56:14 PM | message detail
Yeah, I'm not believe this SFF thing. Replace Kirby with Link and L-block would still get a similar score.

If L-block loses it's because Disgaea has more of a fanbase than anyone could possibly have believed.

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