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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 452
| hochiminh155 | Posted 8/20/2007 2:12:39 PM | message detail |
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Fan favorite status? Because he won the Mario poll? Correct me if I'm
wrong, but Knuckles is a fan favorite too! He won that Sonic poll. MM
raped Yoshi. MM > Knux in Round 2 seems pretty obvious to me. --- Fc: 4768 3939 5325 |
| ZFS | Posted 8/20/2007 2:14:26 PM | message detail |
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I switched back to Mega/Yoshi in that match. For some reason, I
think Yoshi will hold up better than I originally thought in the match
because of his fan-favorite status. Also from what we've seen, if he
can hold up well against other Mario characters, he should be able to
hold up against Mega Man and Knuckles. If Knuckles does take 2nd, I
doubt it'll be because of Yoshi getting SFFed significantly. Thought the same thing, myself. --- Believe |
| Tediz247 | Posted 8/20/2007 2:19:19 PM | message detail |
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I've been waffling on that match ever since the bracket came out, but
I've finally settled on Yoshi. Beating post-DMC3 Dante and getting
almost 43% on Super Snake is more impressive than what Knuckles has
done. Plus, the Sonic poll is ancient, and the most recent Mario poll
is much more applicable. --- That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end. ZSB [aX] |
| ToadYoshi | Posted 8/20/2007 2:22:23 PM | message detail |
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I think Yoshi's run last year shows that he has consistent strength. He
got thumped by Mega, but that's really the only reason anyone is
picking against him at all. And I don't see SFF being a very big factor
in the match. I will, however, say that this proves how pathetically weak Division 6 is. Yoshi might not make it out of the second round, and Yoshi > Dante (predicted to win division 6). Something is out of whack. --- I did it for the lulz! |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 8/20/2007 2:24:46 PM | message detail |
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I've always considered MC a choker, nothing more. He can beat fodder
just fine (though the results are never spectacular) but if he is
paired against a midcarder...he's done. I've just seen so many MC/Halo
matches that I finally call MC the biggest choker in the contest
regardless of where a "boost" might come from. --- Today's Subliminal Thought Is: |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/20/2007 2:27:47 PM | message detail |
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If Yoshi beats Knuckles by 5% or more on the first day, I say it should be Yoshi's to lose the next round. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 8/20/2007 2:27:49 PM | message detail |
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is yuna>alucard really too dangerous a pick over yuna>MC? anyway i can't yuna/mc or alucard slipping through Ganon>luigi. I have Yuna > MC with Ganon/Luigi canceling each other with SFF. --- Feel my truth. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 8/20/2007 2:36:56 PM | message detail |
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Fan favorite status? Because he won the Mario poll? Correct me if
I'm wrong, but Knuckles is a fan favorite too! He won that Sonic poll. Actually Sonic fans that bought the Adventure titles hate the emerald hunting missions so much, that Knuckles is now the most hated Sonic character, even more so than Cream. --- Moltar Status: Bored and slightly sarcastic. The Analysis Crew...believe |
| Master Moltar | Posted 8/20/2007 2:39:22 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and for my stats topic brothas, I'm letting you guys know early
that the Guest sign-ups for the Analysis Crew are going up tonight.
It'll only be for the first 4 divisions though, so if you want a match
specifically in the later half of Round 1, I'd suggest you hold off. --- Moltar Status: Bored and slightly sarcastic. The Analysis Crew...believe |
| Luis_Sera89 | Posted 8/20/2007 2:43:52 PM | message detail |
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How long is "later tonight"? I'd like one, but if it's going up, say, 4am my time I'm gonna miss out. --- "Eet's game time..." |
| Master Moltar | Posted 8/20/2007 2:47:49 PM | message detail |
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About 2-3 hours from now. --- Moltar Status: Bored and slightly sarcastic. The Analysis Crew...believe |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 8/20/2007 3:06:06 PM | message detail |
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The entire premise for Master Chief in this format is that the
anti-votes he receives are essentially eliminated. With two extra
characters to take up the poll, the "I'll vote for X just because they
aren't Master Chief" doesn't hold up so well. That isn't to say every
single vote he gets is of the hardcore variety -- hardly the truth. But
there is undeniably a base that that is much larger than most
characters get that will make sure the Chief is going to never dip
below a certain percentage. Never dip below a certain percentage, eh? Suppose that Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, and Master Chief were placed in a poll together. What would the percentages look like? --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/20/2007 3:09:43 PM | message detail |
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Probably something like this: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2762 --- Currently Playing: Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner, Persona 3 |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/20/2007 3:13:30 PM | message detail |
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Just look at how the Chief did in that poll. Getting so close to Crono,
nearly doubling the guy who beat him. Yeah, the Chief has a dedicted
fanbase and that question was mostly aimed at Nintendo fans. --- Currently Playing: Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner, Persona 3 |
| Master Moltar | Posted 8/20/2007 3:13:57 PM | message detail |
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I was thinking more like this. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2564 aww yeah --- Moltar Status: Bored and slightly sarcastic. The Analysis Crew...believe |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/20/2007 3:14:23 PM | message detail |
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Yoshi/Knuckles is really killing me right now though... Yoshi winning
those Mario polls is scary but they are just the Mario ones. --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 8/20/2007 3:20:25 PM | message detail |
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His rabid fanbase is less than 10% of the site? I could live with that. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| Tediz247 | Posted 8/20/2007 3:20:34 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, that poll was geared toward Sonic and Mega Man, and Master Chief
still got almost 10% there even with absolutely nobody ever mentioning
the possibility of him appearing in Brawl. His fanbase is quite
dedicated. --- That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end. ZSB [aX] |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 8/20/2007 3:22:57 PM | message detail |
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Yoshi/Knuckles is really killing me right now though... Yoshi
winning those Mario polls is scary but they are just the Mario ones. I'm wondering about the whole Nintendo vs. Sega factor as well, in which case Nintendo has the edge from my perspective. --- Today's Subliminal Thought Is: |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/20/2007 3:43:58 PM | message detail |
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I'm wondering about the whole Nintendo vs. Sega factor as well, in which case Nintendo has the edge from my perspective. According to Sonic/Luigi and Mario/Shadow, Sega has the advantage with regard to characters. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/20/2007 3:54:03 PM | message detail |
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Lucky for us, I mean. Not so much for MC, besides DK. The point is
that MC is *not* going to get, say, 30% no matter what match he's in,
which some people seem to be arguing. MC's excellent day vote and 10AC
contest appearance don't really factor into that. This is what I've been saying. I'm thinking people are having a bit too many expectations for Master Chief. He will do well, but I don't think he will get the hardcore vote that people think he will get... --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/20/2007 3:55:14 PM | message detail |
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I thought Sonic/Luigi wasn't too far away from what Luigi was expected to get anyway. --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| jonthomson | Posted 8/20/2007 4:05:13 PM | message detail |
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If anyone's interested I posted up some initial odds for a betting
contest. Should be easy to find using the search, don't have the link
to hand --- Jon Thomson - 0/0, next picks: Yoshi beats Knuckles Bracket analysis: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=37520975 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/20/2007 4:07:54 PM | message detail |
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It isn't too far off if you don't take into account that Luigi beat Kirby and Zero on the way... --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/20/2007 4:11:36 PM | message detail |
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Yet Zero had reason to drop, and year-to-year variation (Kirby could've
dropped a little) could explain the Kirby/Luigi result, and Luigi was
really close to Bowser... --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/20/2007 4:16:01 PM | message detail |
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Bowser looks bad no matter what you do with him. I'd be more concerned
with Yoshi light years ahead of them both (though that's more to do
with him being vastly overrated, sure). Still, I don't believe you can take away all the credit from Luigi there, not when we've seen strangeness with Mario and Sonic before (though with the reverse problem) and the fact that as low as Zero might have fallen, I find it a tad hard to believe he'd lose to Sub-Zero these days (especially given how he manhandled Scorpion). --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/20/2007 4:20:08 PM | message detail |
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- 9 people have Crono losing in round 3, 8 have Vincent, 1 has Zero awww yeah TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/20/2007 4:21:54 PM | message detail |
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- Seems like Dante > Leon is the most popular pick. I'm not surprised, but I didn't expect it to be such a consensus. --- scrumptious cats |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/20/2007 4:25:22 PM | message detail |
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It isn't too far off if you don't take into account that Luigi beat Kirby and Zero on the way... Kirby was definitely overrated in 2k5, plus it's apparent that Luigi ranks above Kirby in the Nintendo hierarchy. I'm thinking Kirby's top-seeding (possibly more bracket support) along with a possible bandwagon push wanting to see him go out looking as good as possible between that shared fanbase between him and Bowser played a factor in it. As for Zero, I still don't see how you can take a drop THAT drastically at face value, especially when it came after a bad match against Mario. http://thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?name=Zero It's pretty rare for an established character to drop off like that, even if they are slowly losing popularity. We've said the same thing about Crono for years and look how long it took for him to show signs of decline. Plus, like you said, it's kind of weird to see Zero and Sub-Zero so close. Zero's definitely losing popularity, but I still think that Luigi match shouldn't be taken at face value... --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/20/2007 5:06:33 PM | message detail |
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I think we need more Ryu discussion. Looking at his history page on
Ngamer's site, he's been pretty damn consistant every year except 2k5.
Was it just an off year for him, or did Bowser (or Nintendo in general)
just have a really bad effect on him? If it's the former, then he can
easily squeak out first in round 1, and may even have a good run this
year. Right now I have him beating Bowser in the first round, and I'm debating whether or not I should take him further. TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 8/20/2007 5:21:19 PM | message detail |
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Of course, Ryu takes first in round 1. He's less than a percent away
from Bowser. Throw in two SFF opponents who both share common games
with him... --- Feel my truth. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/20/2007 5:23:14 PM | message detail |
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I'm considering it too. maybe Ryu just had a bad year that time.. but
it's a real serious drop though, considering how overrated Bowser was
that year. --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/20/2007 5:25:15 PM | message detail |
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Ryu's not consistent at all...he dropped sharply from 2k2 to 2k3, only
rose in 2k4 because SFAC came out right before his match, and is behind
an overrated Mega Man in 2k6. 2k7 will no doubt be his worst year yet. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/20/2007 5:25:25 PM | message detail |
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Oh yeah sure I mean Ryu totally is going 50/50 with Bowser this year WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/20/2007 5:26:23 PM | message detail |
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mmmm x-stats Ganondorf (2006c) VS Yuna (2006c) Ganondorf has a strength of 35.16. Yuna has a strength of 35.26. Yuna wins with 50.14% of the vote! A win of 373 with 131,622 total votes cast. --- scrumptious cats |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/20/2007 5:29:55 PM | message detail |
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And don't you think that this apparant overrating of Mega Man is
cancelled out by the flagrantly obvious Samus/Snake fishiness that was
never adjusted for? TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/20/2007 5:38:47 PM | message detail |
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You know, it would be hilarious if SC2K6 was our very first contest, and with those x-stats... --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/20/2007 5:49:52 PM | message detail |
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You know, it would be hilarious if SC2K6 was our very first contest, and with those x-stats... Why the hell are Cloud and Sephiroth in the Battle Royal with Link and Mario????? Why aren't Sonic and Mega Man up there?????????????????? Heh, that actually reminds me of how pissed I was when Mega Man lost to Sephiroth in 2k2. I seriously couldn't fathom how the villain from FFVII who I didn't think was anything special could take down Mega Man. I got so pissed at Mega Man that I took Vercetti to beat him the next year since I thought he choked. Didn't think much about the concept of x-stats back then though... <_<; --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/20/2007 6:16:48 PM | message detail |
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Heh, Seph beating MM in 2k2 shouldn't have been that much of a surprise, knowing how big on FF this site was. Crono over Snake killed me though. And don't you think that this apparant overrating of Mega Man is cancelled out by the flagrantly obvious Samus/Snake fishiness that was never adjusted for? Um...what? Samus/Snake only affects comparisons between the male and female halves. Ryu/Bowser/Shadow/Auron are all males. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| ZFS | Posted 8/20/2007 7:26:52 PM | message detail |
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Never dip below a certain percentage, eh? Suppose that Link, Cloud,
Sephiroth, and Master Chief were placed in a poll together. What would
the percentages look like? Hm. Never thought about what he would get in that. Let's say -- 15%! Believe. --- Believe |
| swirIdude | Posted 8/20/2007 7:34:53 PM | message detail |
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HM isn't entirely crazy with that guess. I would give MC at least 10% myself. --- Pokemon FC: 0129 8285 9148 Jump Ultimate Stars FC: 1504 2045 7334 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 8/20/2007 8:29:53 PM | message detail |
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And don't you think that this apparant overrating of Mega Man is
cancelled out by the flagrantly obvious Samus/Snake fishiness that was
never adjusted for? Try adjusting Samus/Snake any way you want. It doesn't change Bowser or Ryu's standings relative to each other. --- delicious cats Commit it to memory. |
| Mithrandir1331 | Posted 8/20/2007 9:13:51 PM | message detail |
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So, is Liquid Snake's performance against Frog considered an anomaly?
Most people seem to think he's significantly weaker than Master Chief,
and I'm not altogether positive why. --- Carpe Diem, or so some say, I don't really know I will let you down, I will make you hurt... |
| Xuxon | Posted 8/20/2007 9:51:29 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2014 It's hard to know what to make of him in terms of 1v1 strength based on that and Frog. But it doesn't matter this time, and seeing that beatdown just shows how non-dedicated his fanbase is, IMO. --- NLB - Level 97/98/98/99/99/99, 39 hunts completed - Undying defeated |
| Xuxon | Posted 8/20/2007 9:59:24 PM | message detail |
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And come to think of it, Frog isn't far ahead of Ness or Zidane anyway.
Frog's value is based on Samus's, possibly overadjusted, Zidane wasn't
adjusted at all, and Ness could be off too. --- NLB - Level 97/98/98/99/99/99, 39 hunts completed - Undying defeated |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/20/2007 11:00:19 PM | message detail |
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Speaking of Frog... how does Midna beating Frog in Round 2 sound? It
definitely doesn't seem right to me, since Frog is...a CT character, so
he should do just fine to get second to Samus again. Plus, Midna should
lose some of its support to Samus, anyway. But, then that makes me think... would Crono hold up just as well as Frog or Magus in a multi-option poll? Crono vs. Magus, urgh... I --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/20/2007 11:01:16 PM | message detail |
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Everyone's banking on CT characters to decrease this year. I'm just counting on Midna doing well. --- Pokemon Pearl Code: 2663-9266-2709 WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/20/2007 11:02:12 PM | message detail |
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I don't know why but I have Frog... Scorpion doesn't sound like a
fan-favorite character and Midna loses Nintendo support. I feel kinda
reckless, though. --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| Kaxon | Posted 8/20/2007 11:12:34 PM | message detail |
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Heh, Seph beating MM in 2k2 shouldn't have been that much of a
surprise, knowing how big on FF this site was. Crono over Snake killed
me though. Yeah, personally I expected Seph to win that contest. After seeing what Mega Man did the first two rounds I started to think he might be able to beat him, but sadly it was not to be. --- Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/20/2007 11:30:35 PM | message detail |
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Time to analyze Division...5. I was gonna do Division 6, but I'm far too lazy. Division 5 It's start with a really difficult threesome of weaklings... Mudkip, Pit, and Tingle. Mudkip is from a lesser Pokemon game, but it's been on 4Chan... Pit is likely the most respected character, but how much of his SSBB support can he hang onto? Tingle is the hated character of the three, but you can't deny his fanbase, and that there is a small bunch that (ugh) likes him. Another interesting match in Round 1 is MC/Yuna/Vercetti/Parappa. Yuna is slightly stronger than MC and the pack is pretty weak as a whole, so the effect of MC's hardcore set of voters might be minimal here. Finally, there's the Four Pack of Doom of the entire first Round... all have a shot of advancing. One must note that it's a Nintendo character against a set of characters who get most of their glory from Playstation... could it be easier for Ness than expected? Or is Ness just too weak, anyway? As for the Round 2... it xeems pretty predictable. There may be some slight doubt about Yuna or MC advancing past whoever came from Ness/Alucard/LS/ZIdane, but they should be strong enough to advance, anyway. Now, Round 3... THIS will be one of the greatest days of the contest. Ganondorf is clearly above the pack, but Luigi attempts to rob him of glory. Yuna's, wanting those two Nintendo characters to SFF each other enough for them to sneak in... could Ganondorf be weakened enough for that? Master Chief is most likely advancing. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
