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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 452
| Master Moltar | Posted 8/19/2007 7:11:14 PM | message detail |
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Yes because it's going to be Snake and Kirby going on to the quarterfinals. And there's no sarcasm here. --- Moltar Status: Bored and slightly sarcastic. The Analysis Crew...believe |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 8/19/2007 7:28:50 PM | message detail |
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| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/19/2007 7:31:53 PM | message detail |
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Then he gets 42% on Ryu, a noble niner, no, Ryu isn't. --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/19/2007 7:32:23 PM | message detail |
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Then he gets 42% on Ryu, a noble niner, the year after which is mighty impressive ...What? --- Demyx is better than Axel. I don't like Haley Scarnato |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 8/19/2007 7:33:14 PM | message detail |
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Gah, sorry, my mind must have slipped there...long day at work. --- Today's Subliminal Thought Is: |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/19/2007 7:41:15 PM | message detail |
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Kratos will do fine for himself -- he'll rank over DK twice and
probably Kirby at least once, and he's still going to put up good
numbers against Solid whether he takes second or third. I think
one-on-one matches will favor him more than this format, but that won't
stop him from looking great. It's hard for me to consider him as a dark
horse just because many of us know he could be quite a threat. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 8/19/2007 7:43:46 PM | message detail |
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I used the MK characters as the "dark horse" of the contest, everyone
knows there is some power to them but nobody really knows how much and
it's never really put to serious discussion like other mystery
characters. Kratos will do fine, probably a little stronger with God of War 2 out and who knows if 300 might boost him (yes, yes, yes...I know 300 has absolutely nothing to do with Greek mythology but association with Ancient Greece might rub off). --- Today's Subliminal Thought Is: |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/19/2007 9:05:21 PM | message detail |
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I'm saying it right now, Marcus Fenix will be this year's dark horse. Not because he'll be overly strong, but because noone on Board 8 seems to think he'll do anything. Some people don't even have him getting out of the first round. To them, I'd like to point out that Tommy Vercetti beat Kefka. I can easily see Fenix doing better because of the casual shift this site has seen and the fact that GeoW was basically the non-Zelda hit of last year. TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/19/2007 9:05:55 PM | message detail |
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Either Fenix or Zero I should say, considering Zero will be going to the quarters with Link. TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| creativename | Posted 8/19/2007 9:21:26 PM | message detail |
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I know 300 has absolutely nothing to do with Greek mythology but association with Ancient Greece might rub off). ...stats topic, you have gone TOO FAR!! ;) --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Master Moltar | Posted 8/19/2007 9:28:02 PM | message detail |
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I'm saying it right now, Marcus Fenix will be this year's dark horse. ... OH GOD I AGREE! This can't be good. *switches his dark horse to Epona* --- Moltar Status: Bored and slightly sarcastic. The Analysis Crew...believe |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/19/2007 10:19:39 PM | message detail |
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300 certainly did make the Greek mythology vibe cool again...but Pit is old-school with the Greek mythology (Medusa, bay-bee!). Pit in the second round <c>CONFIRMED</c> <c> = confirmed --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/19/2007 11:56:31 PM | message detail |
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Pit just doesn't have any competition. There are plenty of 4channers
who hate GameFAQs so Mudkip's probably won't get that many joke votes,
and I forgot who the other opponent is. --- Pokemon Pearl Code: 2663-9266-2709 WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/20/2007 12:04:48 AM | message detail |
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Weird... I never noticed I took Dante > Leon without thinking in
Round 3. It couldn't be that obvious. I'm thinking Dante is a common
favorite though to pull him through, not to mention he's probably a
little stronger than Leon. And regarding Diablo/Arthas... I don't think there'll be a lot of split-fanbase there. I think Diablo gets his main strength from his design and name, not from his actual character or even much from the game itself. That said, Diablo still gets crushed in a multi-way poll, since being a FAVORITE will be more a factor... Those things that made Diablo a mid-carder will now be nearly meaningless. I think he's gonna bomb. If Zelda had the chance to reach Crono, would any of you consider Zelda over Crono? Kinda funny, because I want to Zelda over Vincent in Round 1, yet I want to take Vincent over Crono when that time comes... but Zelda over Crono doesn't feel right. Now, where did my line of reasoning get messed up? Or maybe it wasn't, the the opponents will be just right... I dunno. More likely Zelda > Vincent will be wrong the the latter, if you ask me. Crono/Link/Zero being together... it seems like there will be just enough of the slight relationships among them (all being mainly on Nintendo systems) to give Vincent the edge over Crono. One line of reasoning for Marcus at least passing up Zelos is...*points at Sam Fisher* Sam was pretty close to the fodder line at one time, so why couldn't Marcus at least pass up Fisher? --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/20/2007 12:06:29 AM | message detail |
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Zelda > Crono is meh, and so is Vincent > Crono. --- Pokemon Pearl Code: 2663-9266-2709 WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/20/2007 12:29:11 AM | message detail |
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Time for my little analysis on Division 3, full of crazy (but more reasonable than you'd be willing to admit) things.. It just might start off with a bang, for sure. CATS just might beat Peach. It'll be interesting. Anyway, if CATS can edge out Peach, who's to say CATS might not get a rally the next time and get to the THIRD round? I'm serious here. I love the all-Nintendo Banjo/Captain Falcon/Fox/Wario. Banjo will likely have the most independent fanbase here... he'll probably beat C. Falcon for that reason, but could he squeak in a second place (if he somehow does, it'd better be Fox that loses, not Wario!)? I'm looking at Fox > Wario, myself. Mario should SFF Pac-Man to oblivion (resulting in Big Boss = 2nd), and Bomberman should be a slight favorite over Phoenix in terms of runner-up to Magus... Sephiroth > Mario is nearly a shoe-in in the Division finals, but we'll see if Sephiroth can Magus can split enough for a miraculous Clinkeroth breakage... (and CATS being there instead of Fox couldn't hurt Mario) Division 4... Zelda/Vincent in the first round is interesting... it'll at least test how rabid LoZ fans really are. Given how amazing Link did in the Battle Royale last year, I could see this match going either way. Zelda was unfortunately mega-screwed this year with Link in the next round. Watch out for Bidoof/Edgeworth as to who gets second place. I'm banking on Bidoof, but don't underestimate those PW fanatics. Or, maybe Agent J will prove to be a bit of a darkhorse and surprise us all. Next, there's the difficult Jak/HK-47/Lloyd pack... who gets second? Jak should be the strongest of the bunch, but it seems that the other factors favor HK-47 or Lloyd... it will be interesting. Link and either Crono or Vincent SHOULD make the Division finals, though I'd wet my pants if Zero miraculously stole second... nah, no way. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/20/2007 3:15:20 AM | message detail |
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Goddamnit, stop jumping on my Zero bandwagon. Hard to have a hail-mary upset when other people take it too >_< TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| charmander6000 | Posted 8/20/2007 9:49:15 AM | message detail |
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I've updated the BOP http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB6%20BOP.xls Some things I've noticed. - Yoshi is the huge favorite in Yoshi/Knuckles while Knuckles is the huge favorite in Round 2 - Diablo and KOS-MOS are tied - In Kefka/Marcus Kefka is the huge favorite in winning that one - Jill > Ocelot - Bowser > Ryu - Fox in 1st and Wario in 2nd - Bomberman and Phoenix Wright are tied - Bidoof barely leads Miles Edgeworth - Zelda and Vincent are tied with everyone except one taking both characters to come in either first or second - Jak went from 0 brackets having him in second to 7 - Pit and Mudkip are tied - Vergil is destroying Thrall and Ratchet - In the Alucard/Ness/Liquid Snake trio every single bracket so far has Alucard in either first or second while Ness has 21 and Liquid has 13 - While he was destroying him last update Matt has closed the gap between Amaterasu to one - L-Block had a slow start, but is now winning handily against Laharl - Freeman has 32/34 brackets supporting him, Ike has 27, Duke 8 and Guybrush 1 - Midna/Frog and Tidus/Vivi = most disputed matches in round 2. - Jill has a comfortable lead over Marcus - Auron barely leads Bowser - Fox > Peach - Kirby comfortably leads over Kratos - Sora/Aeris have swap leads many times, but now Sora leads by 4 - Bowser > All, by a lot for 2nd in round 3 - 9 people have Crono losing in round 3, 8 have Vincent, 1 has Zero - Ganondorf has the lead for first in round 3 and MC has second - Seems like Dante > Leon is the most popular pick. - More people have Mega Man > Samus in round 4 than round 3 - While most brackets have Ganondorf easily winning his round 4 match MC and Dante are having a close match for second - 3 people have Sonic/Snake getting upsetted in round 5, 2 have Ganondorf, 1 has MC - Only one person has Cloud > Link --- The Board 8 BOP - http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB6%20BOP.xls Topic - http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=37528396 |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 8/20/2007 10:24:11 AM | message detail |
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I can't believe so many people have KOS-MOS > Diablo. Are they really that dense? --- Fc: 4768 3939 5325 |
| Eggplant Lord | Posted 8/20/2007 10:29:15 AM | message detail |
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It's board preference and thinking that Arthas will detract from
Diablos. Of course, the villains contest data is useless as well. It's
not a bad choice. The number supporting it just is not proportional to
likelihood. Anyway, with Dante > Leon, is it wrong to think there will be some SFF involved? It just strikes me as unlikely that the two Capcom characters will advance over the two FF characters. ___ *watches* o_o |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 8/20/2007 11:38:29 AM | message detail |
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SFF is being tossed around far too easily in this contest. Upwards of
80% of the site likes Nintendo, and the same thing for the major Square
franchises (FF, CT, KH). There's absolutely no reason to think that
there's some magical upper limit for the combination of, say, Ganondorf
and Luigi, or Squall and Sora. SFF isn't going to matter unless one
character is a complete leech and goes against somebody who clearly and
definitely outranks him as a favourite (as happened with
Link/Ganondorf, and might happen with Link/Zelda). Otherwise, something
like Ganondorf + Luigi could add up to 80% or 30%; it depends on who
they face. On a related note, I find the charge that Master Chief has a hardcore fanbase that will always vote him over anything a little silly as well. He's had one anomalous match (Felix)...maybe two if you stretch it (Crono), and he had the pic advantage in that second match (cn always went on and on about that one). Other than that, he's had close matches with Frog, Donkey Kong, and Sub-Zero, who you'd expect to be together in the stats, and performed at about the same level each year (26-28% on BL, decent midcarder level). He's just had a lucky enough draw to always get placed in interesting matches; it doesn't have much to do with a rabid fanbase. He'd get quadded (or a bit worse) by Link or Cloud just like anyone else of comparable strength. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| voltch | Posted 8/20/2007 11:41:18 AM | message detail |
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i'm guessing most peole think megaman's gonna SFF yoshi in round 2? --- Rufus shinra destroyed my bracket in the sc2k6 contest. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/20/2007 12:04:16 PM | message detail |
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I can't believe so many people have KOS-MOS > Diablo. Are they really that dense? what makes us so dense.. ? --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| Whit3_Rabb1t | Posted 8/20/2007 12:19:55 PM | message detail |
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Does anyone else have Gannon/M Cheif/Leon/Dante? Because I'm having trouble with that one... |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/20/2007 12:26:33 PM | message detail |
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yeah, not only does the MC fourpack have four potential winners, but Dante/Leon aren't exactly guaranteed even together. --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| FastFalcon05 | Posted 8/20/2007 1:04:25 PM | message detail |
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He's just had a lucky enough draw to always get placed in
interesting matches; it doesn't have much to do with a rabid fanbase.
He'd get quadded (or a bit worse) by Link or Cloud just like anyone
else of comparable strength. "Lucky draws" is not the first phrase I'd use when describing Master Chief. He gets put against Frog in his best year when the entire board is behind him like few before. He faces Sub Zero days after a new Mortal Kombat game is released. If you want to extend his "luck" to games; Halo faces the ever popular (read: dubious) Starcraft in round one. Halo's fans are rabid; it's whether or not if that extends to Master Chief (and why wouldn't they?) that's the only question. The day vote consistently (and by a lot, too) favors anything Halo related all throughout the year. Halo 2 was one of, what, two?, nondropdown games to make the list. The only reason we haven't been able to see MC do however he's going to do against Link or Cloud is because he's been decidedly unlucky in his match draws to get there. --- One of the most troublesome things in life is that what you do or do not want has little to do with what does or does not happen. ~ Lemony Snicket |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 8/20/2007 1:18:39 PM | message detail |
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what makes us so dense.. ? Sorry, I meant to say the people who have Diablo > KOS-MOS are dense --- Fc: 4768 3939 5325 |
| Luis_Sera89 | Posted 8/20/2007 1:22:05 PM | message detail |
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for favouring one character over the other when it's anything but
clearcut is pretty stupid >_> --- "Eet's game time..." |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 8/20/2007 1:24:02 PM | message detail |
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Lucky for us, I mean. Not so much for MC, besides DK. The point is that
MC is *not* going to get, say, 30% no matter what match he's in, which
some people seem to be arguing. MC's excellent day vote and 10AC
contest appearance don't really factor into that. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Brawl.jpg |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 8/20/2007 1:24:11 PM | message detail |
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It IS clear cut. Diablo vs KOS-MOS would be a tough match on its own.
But now that Arthas is there leeching Blizzard fans (Which is going to
happen, no matter how weak Arthas may be) plus the fact that a cult RPG
character would have more of a dedicated fanbase than Diablo (Who did
poorly on that villain poll) maes that match a lock for KOS-MOS. --- Fc: 4768 3939 5325 |
| swirIdude | Posted 8/20/2007 1:25:55 PM | message detail |
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Arthas will not likely leech significantly, but even if KOS-MOS's 2006
value is only somewhat legitimate, she ranks above Diablo in last
year's stats. That alone gives her a great chance of finishing ahead of
him. --- Pokemon FC: 0129 8285 9148 Jump Ultimate Stars FC: 1504 2045 7334 |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 8/20/2007 1:26:37 PM | message detail |
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If Arthas only gets like 8% in that poll, that's still a hefty bite out of Diablo. --- Fc: 4768 3939 5325 |
| Luis_Sera89 | Posted 8/20/2007 1:27:45 PM | message detail |
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KOS-MOS beating Diablo by 10% would be a lock, and that just isn't
happening. The difference is going to be at Ulti-blowout levels at best. --- "Eet's game time..." |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/20/2007 1:30:45 PM | message detail |
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I just don't think Diablo has a hardcore fanbase. Diablo'd win 1 on 1,
but not by a lot to convince me. we saw kefka beat him in that villain
multi-poll. --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 8/20/2007 1:35:18 PM | message detail |
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A multi villain poll with Sephiroth in no less --- Fc: 4768 3939 5325 |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 8/20/2007 1:38:13 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2020 Diablo? More like DiaBLOW in multiway polls --- Fc: 4768 3939 5325 |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 8/20/2007 1:39:02 PM | message detail |
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| LordOfDabu | Posted 8/20/2007 1:41:53 PM | message detail |
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I would not be surprised to see any of the choices (aside from Mega
Man) take second, not even Arthas. I have Diablo right now, but it's
something that I've changed twice since the bracket's release, and I'll
likely change it again. --- Hello world |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/20/2007 1:44:02 PM | message detail |
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Could the SFF b/w Vincent and Crono open the door for Zero? personally, I really doubt it. --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/20/2007 1:45:26 PM | message detail |
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More like Link SFFs Zero and gives Vincent the win. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/20/2007 1:46:39 PM | message detail |
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yeah, Zero has Link to worry about just as much as Vincent/Crono. --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 8/20/2007 1:48:19 PM | message detail |
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Vincent/Crono are two different fanbases. We've seen Crono vs Vincent
and there wasn't SFF. Thus, there won't be SFF in that match. Zero is
contending with three powerhouses with non-SFFable fanbases. Not to
mention Link will SFF Zero probably. Conclusion: Zero gets his ass
kicked. --- Fc: 4768 3939 5325 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/20/2007 1:49:14 PM | message detail |
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I do think Vincent/Crono will have some "RPG" split, but it won't be severe enough for Zero to pass them or anything. --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/20/2007 1:52:34 PM | message detail |
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I predict any SFF between Mega Man and Nintendo characters will be lessened greatly in these multi-option polls. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/20/2007 1:55:25 PM | message detail |
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It might be, but there's no match in which he have to rely on a huge
amount of SFF, really. Yoshi and Knuckles aren't that far away from
each other to start with, and Zero's not even close to Vincent or Crono. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| charmander6000 | Posted 8/20/2007 1:59:46 PM | message detail |
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Well in 2k5 Crono/Vincent was the lowest vote total for a match that
contained either Crono or Vincent though not by much, second lowest
only had 2k more votes. --- The Board 8 BOP - http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB6%20BOP.xls Topic - http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=37528396 |
| ZFS | Posted 8/20/2007 2:03:58 PM | message detail |
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On a related note, I find the charge that Master Chief has a
hardcore fanbase that will always vote him over anything a little silly
as well. He's had one anomalous match (Felix)...maybe two if you
stretch it (Crono), and he had the pic advantage in that second match
(cn always went on and on about that one). Other than that, he's had
close matches with Frog, Donkey Kong, and Sub-Zero, who you'd expect to
be together in the stats, and performed at about the same level each
year (26-28% on BL, decent midcarder level). He's just had a lucky
enough draw to always get placed in interesting matches; it doesn't
have much to do with a rabid fanbase. He'd get quadded (or a bit worse)
by Link or Cloud just like anyone else of comparable strength. On top of understanding the actual Halo fanbase, along with various multi-polls that will go to show how consistent Halo performs, I don't think there's anything silly about Master Chief having a hardcore fanbase. It's been reiterated time and again that just as Master Chief has a hardcore following that votes him over everyone -- and these folks are not few in number -- there is a similar base there that will anti-vote the Chief regardless of who he is up against simply due to what he represents -- Halo and the Xbox. In a short time, he's become rather iconic, much to disdain of the people on GameFAQs. The entire premise for Master Chief in this format is that the anti-votes he receives are essentially eliminated. With two extra characters to take up the poll, the "I'll vote for X just because they aren't Master Chief" doesn't hold up so well. That isn't to say every single vote he gets is of the hardcore variety -- hardly the truth. But there is undeniably a base that that is much larger than most characters get that will make sure the Chief is going to never dip below a certain percentage. --- Believe |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/20/2007 2:04:36 PM | message detail |
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I hope something in Yoshi > Knuckles, followed by MM > Knuckles
falls flat, even if I have that myself... I mean, if Yoshi/Mega Man
never happened, Yoshi would be an even bigger favorite to beat Knuckles
than in the first round. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| voltch | Posted 8/20/2007 2:08:40 PM | message detail |
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is yuna>alucard really too dangerous a pick over yuna>MC? anyway i can't yuna/mc or alucard slipping through Ganon>luigi. --- Rufus shinra destroyed my bracket in the sc2k6 contest. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 8/20/2007 2:10:42 PM | message detail |
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I switched back to Mega/Yoshi in that match. For some reason, I think
Yoshi will hold up better than I originally thought in the match
because of his fan-favorite status. Also from what we've seen, if he
can hold up well against other Mario characters, he should be able to
hold up against Mega Man and Knuckles. If Knuckles does take 2nd, I
doubt it'll be because of Yoshi getting SFFed significantly. --- Moltar Status: Bored and slightly sarcastic. The Analysis Crew...believe |
