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ff6man | Posted 8/17/2007 5:34:02 PM | message detail
Yes, because so many nintendo fans prefer Bidoof to Link. -_-;;;
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On this board they do!
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NominateSerge | Posted 8/17/2007 5:39:23 PM | message detail
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Man, talk about an overloaded banner.
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therealmnm | Posted 8/17/2007 5:39:44 PM | message detail
Whoa, Mudkip's on the contest banner! Mudkip > Pit and Tingle confirmed.
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Master Moltar | Posted 8/17/2007 5:41:11 PM | message detail
So he DID get my threat. Ganondorf in (or near) the center baby!
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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/17/2007 5:42:28 PM | message detail
Link and Ganon about to have themselves a little Jill Sandwich, I see.
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therealmnm | Posted 8/17/2007 5:42:38 PM | message detail
And really, I don't see Mudkip as that much of a joke actually. He is one of the starters for RSE after all...
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 8/17/2007 5:45:58 PM | message detail
The only qualm I have about this contest format is that we won't be able to see who ranks higher in stats between Mudkip and Bidoof

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NominateSerge | Posted 8/17/2007 5:46:06 PM | message detail
Yeah, what is up with Ganondorf and spying out young women? What a perv!

And with Snake and Squall on the banner, expect the female demographic to increase exponentially!
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swirIdude | Posted 8/17/2007 5:50:34 PM | message detail
And the female demographic likes cute!

Mudkip > Pit and Tingle confirmed
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trannyscience | Posted 8/17/2007 5:51:06 PM | message detail
Tingle's cuter than you, boy.
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Gaddswell | Posted 8/17/2007 5:52:13 PM | message detail
Nice. Gordon made the banner!

Too bad about Mudkip though!
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Kratos_42 | Posted 8/17/2007 5:52:47 PM | message detail
I thought this contest we were doing away with all of the 'confirmed' nonsense.

Sarcastic response confirmed.
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NominateSerge | Posted 8/17/2007 5:53:32 PM | message detail
Sarcastic response denied
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Haste_2 | Posted 8/17/2007 5:57:36 PM | message detail
I just noticed that Wario has a decent shot at making it to Round 3 is CATS beats out Peach against Sephiroth. We all know Wario has a more dilligent fanbase than the SSBM-based Fox fans, right? =P Go CATS!

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PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/17/2007 6:01:17 PM | message detail
I've had Vincent > Crono since day 1. I've brought it up a couple times, but it hasn't really sparked any serious discussion. Most people seem to feel like it's not gonna happen, but no one's given me any crap for it either. I would still take Crono 1v1, but I just feel like Vincent will be able to get those extra couple of % points in this format. It's pretty much a crapshoot, and I'm taking gambles all over the place, probably too many, but hey, it's gonna be fun.

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consolefreak | Posted 8/17/2007 6:02:38 PM | message detail
Catching up to the topic here.

Time for me to bring up something else that's bothering me now... Snake/Squall/Sonic/Kirby. I instinctively just went with Snake > Sonic, but the more I think of it, the more I want to take Sonic > Snake.

I actually have Sonic > Snake for a while now. As some of you may know, I'm a big fan of MGS-FF SFF (Snake would obviously get the better end of the SFF, but he would still lose some votes, and Sonic just has no one taking away his votes. I love Snake, and I'll vote for him in this match, but I gotta take Sonic to take it.

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consolefreak | Posted 8/17/2007 6:14:43 PM | message detail
Heh, sorry about that, but don't expect it to be. The script I made to display a bracket can't be made to work with 4 people, and I don't think it's an important feature so I'm not going to bother with it. Unless someone wants to send me some HTML that I can just paste up.

I know it's futile, but I gotta agree in that I love that bracket function, and it being absent for 2k6 (and 2k7, apparently :p) does suck somewhat.

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NominateSerge | Posted 8/17/2007 6:17:41 PM | message detail
That's why I created my own brackets on a spreadsheet for quick access!
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consolefreak | Posted 8/17/2007 6:21:14 PM | message detail
I'm not saying that Sonic > Snake in any BR. Hell the very next round I bounce right back to Snake > Sonic. Just with Kirby and Squall there, I think it could be just enough for Sonic to get past Snake.

Exactly.
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consolefreak | Posted 8/17/2007 6:25:23 PM | message detail
Though I wish people would stop being upset about that, because I went to alot of trouble to get it in place on lolx for them. http://www.thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?bracket=2006c

Urgh. I've read so much about your site and realise it has so many good things on it, but somehow I keep going back to gamefaqscontests.com and freewebs.com/mmxcalibur. I guess I'll have to memorise your site as well. Keep up the good work.

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consolefreak | Posted 8/17/2007 6:26:55 PM | message detail
Snake had Cloud and Link to drain him and he still beat Sephiroth. Do you think Sonic would be as strong as Sephiroth in that situation (Sephiroth sharing with Cloud that is...)?

Hmm, not much of an argument. Sephiroth loses more votes to Cloud than Snake does, and yes I do see Sonic beating Snake in this poll.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 8/17/2007 6:29:00 PM | message detail
Ulti, I was curious: How are you doing win/loss records on MMX's site this year? Do you get a win if you advance, regardless of whether or not it's first or second? Or just for first?
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Ngamer64 | Posted 8/17/2007 6:30:06 PM | message detail
Regarding the "credentials" needed to make it onto this season's banner.

Ryu - Overall: 6 - 5
Snake - Overall: 18 - 5
Mario - Overall: 16 - 3
Link - Overall: 16 - 1
Jill - Overall: 3 - 4
Ganon - Overall: 8 - 5
Dante - Overall: 6 - 5
Gordon - Overall: 1 - 5
Sora - Overall: 6 - 4
Sonic - Overall: 15 - 5
Squall - Overall: 7 - 5
Cloud - Overall: 14 - 2
Mudkip - Overall: 0 - 0

Banner Combined Record: 116 - 49 [70.30%]

(normal bracket matchups only)

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therealmnm | Posted 8/17/2007 6:43:58 PM | message detail
Hmm, not much of an argument. Sephiroth loses more votes to Cloud than Snake does, and yes I do see Sonic beating Snake in this poll.

And the point of the post was missed again. We all know that Sephiroth lost votes to Cloud, yet he was still decent in those polls. I wouldn't expect Sonic to have beaten Sephiroth in that four-way poll... Remember, Snake barely got through that. I don't see how people expect that Sonic would be stronger than Sephiroth in that battle royal when Snake had to fight with all of his might to beat him. Unless you think Sonic would do better than Snake and SFF'd Sephiroth. I don't see Sonic doing either. Sorry.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 8/17/2007 6:49:59 PM | message detail
Not to be down on Snake, but there's a clear reason why he won that match outside of his own popularity. It didn't have to be "cheating" per se, but there's a reason why Snake was beating Link at the beginning of that day, and only that day - the entire anti-Sephiroth force was thrown behind him.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/17/2007 6:52:05 PM | message detail
does anyone know who will get more votes between Vincent and Zelda in the first round yet?
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ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 8/17/2007 6:54:15 PM | message detail
I've got Vincent there.
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consolefreak | Posted 8/17/2007 6:59:09 PM | message detail
And the point of the post was missed again. We all know that Sephiroth lost votes to Cloud, yet he was still decent in those polls. I wouldn't expect Sonic to have beaten Sephiroth in that four-way poll... Remember, Snake barely got through that. I don't see how people expect that Sonic would be stronger than Sephiroth in that battle royal when Snake had to fight with all of his might to beat him. Unless you think Sonic would do better than Snake and SFF'd Sephiroth. I don't see Sonic doing either. Sorry.

I definitely see where you're coming from, but I don't know. First of all, hell yeah Sephiroth got a respectable percentage in these polls -- he's been performing greatly on Cloud (possibly rSFFing him).

I just see Snake losing so many votes to Cloud/Sephiroth. Hell, he lost mine. Lol anecdotal evidence.

But whatever, a very important item here is Link. With a complete powerhouse poll containing Clinkeroth, sure it's difficult for anyone to make a statement, and props to Snake for doing so. But Link just sucks so many votes. He's not in this here Snake/Sonic poll though. I hate the argument that Kirby will steal some Snake SSBB votes, I rather see him taking some Sonic votes. I find SEGA/Nintendo to have a close relationship (and thus I understand not taking Sonic to beat Sephiroth in that poll). However, Squall/Snake's where it's at. Sonic will hardly lose any votes, and Snake will lose at least some votes to Squall, trust me.

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consolefreak | Posted 8/17/2007 7:01:46 PM | message detail
does anyone know who will get more votes between Vincent and Zelda in the first round yet?

Vincent-Zelda 1 on 1 is arguable (with Vincent taking it, at least for me) but then there's The Boss sucking some Sony votes. Lol MGS/FF SFF. Meh I can see it happening the other way around, but I've got Zelda > Vincent and I'm sticking to it. Second round is Vincent, but I suppose that's blatantly obvious.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/17/2007 7:04:05 PM | message detail
I would never picture Zelda being a fan-favorite, however. but she is the sole Nintendo character, but it may not work that way for her.
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ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 8/17/2007 7:04:28 PM | message detail
Well, what about Tails sucking away some Nintendo votes, huh? He's certainly more affiliated with Nintendo than Square!
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/17/2007 7:15:06 PM | message detail
there's basically two ways for me to look at this contest: an actual four-way melee in which involves people voting the same way they would in a two vs two, and a way that actually makes you think about the word "fan favorite".
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/17/2007 7:15:39 PM | message detail
er, one vs one*
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/17/2007 7:28:55 PM | message detail
*also has Vincent > Crono...and Ganon > Sonic*
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ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 8/17/2007 7:29:41 PM | message detail
Snake destroys Ganondorf with SFF. He finishes dead last!
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/17/2007 7:30:45 PM | message detail
Snake will get about as much SFF on Ganon as he did on Samus.
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Master Moltar | Posted 8/17/2007 7:37:13 PM | message detail
Snake will get about as much SFF on Ganon as he did on Samus.

Well, since Samus should have beaten Snake with about 58%, looks like that adds up up about 5% of SFF.

Oh man, I'm starting to get worried about Ganon's chances!
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ZFS | Posted 8/17/2007 8:14:07 PM | message detail
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/17/2007 8:17:36 PM | message detail
I've got Vincent > Crono. CT's now another generation older and Vincent has held up very well in both FF-polls (though the GameFAQs one is misleading -- Sephiroth isn't in that one!) and against Noble Niners one-on-one. I trust many Crono fans are diligent...but I wonder if they are enough for Vincent nowadays.
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creativename | Posted 8/17/2007 8:27:21 PM | message detail
KH:
Not to be down on Snake, but there's a clear reason why he won that match outside of his own popularity. It didn't have to be "cheating" per se, but there's a reason why Snake was beating Link at the beginning of that day, and only that day - the entire anti-Sephiroth force was thrown behind him.

This is a very good point - similar to what I mentioned earlier about rallies/cheating having a more leveraged impact with more characters. Things like message board bandwagons have a much better chance in this format - because not only are their double the characters, but 2nd place also matters, and usually 2nd place will be way behind 1st, and the difference between 2nd/3rd will on average be less than the difference between 1st/2nd (as per exponential distribution properties).
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/17/2007 8:27:24 PM | message detail
Interesting poll:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2762



It's an awkward question to judge by and there was a natural lean towards Sonic...but Master Chief did rather poorly there for having as hardcore of a fanbase as he's supposed to have. Granted, he was ahead of the rest of the non-Noble Niners and landed ahead of two people he arguably couldn't beat head-to-head, not to mention it's an eight-option poll...but despite all that and the unusual question, it's still weird to see MC not breaking 10%. I dunno, maybe that's just me...

...at the same time though, once you replace people like Crono with Yuna (no comparison), Cloud with Alucard (who he's doubled before), Mega Man with Ganondorf (not quite as many people's favorites), ditch the other options, throw in Halo 3, and not feature a question asked towards SSB-fans...yeah, MC should look much more like he should. I guess initial reaction expected MC to do better in that poll.
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ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 8/17/2007 8:28:43 PM | message detail
Master Chief wasn't going to get hardcore support because his fans are too cool for a Wii!
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creativename | Posted 8/17/2007 8:29:58 PM | message detail
I too am concerned for Crono in this contest.

He's got incredible longevity, but he still suffers from very...slow...creeping...aging of doom.

Crono/Vincent is a very tough call.
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Eggplant Lord | Posted 8/17/2007 8:34:36 PM | message detail
Now, I fervently disagree with MC having a "hardcore fanbase," but if he did, I don't think they would be the type of people to want him in Nintendo games. Alternatively, the possibility of enough franchises with cooler characters stealing away the fans that might vote MC because of Halo and not knowing/caring about the competition (mire evident in one-on-one matches).

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ZFS | Posted 8/17/2007 8:44:01 PM | message detail
I wouldn't look at that poll and take anything from it. Which character do you want to see in Brawl? Master Chief? Really? I don't think it says much, or is even worth really thinking on, about what the Chief is capable of in a contest like this. The content of the question makes me have a hard time looking at that and taking anything from it.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/17/2007 9:45:56 PM | message detail
That is one badass banner. Mainly for Mudkip.
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