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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 451
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/17/2007 12:48:42 PM | message detail |
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I see Luigi and Yoshi doing better in a multi-option poll than Bowser. Ganondorf's even less of a fan favorite than Bowser is, so I assume you have Luigi > Ganondorf? --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| NominateSerge | Posted 8/17/2007 1:01:51 PM | message detail |
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First, look at Knuckles. He probably has a chance of losing to Rikku If Knuckles can beat Sonic and Shadow in a multiway poll (Yes, I know it's old, but compare the two Mario polls. Not much changed except for Mario, really), I highly doubt he's in danger of losing to Rikku. She DOES have Vaan to sap away votes even if she did have a chance anyhow. I'm thinking he'll hold up better SFF-wise against Cloud than he would against Crono Well, I already brought up that post-Villains Contest poll where Sephiroth being in the poll relegated Kefka to about 11.5%, not that impressive. Also, there IS an old Favorite FF Villain poll, where basically you're going to be voting for Sephiroth or Kefka. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1446 He still only managed 18.78% despite how many horrible scrubs are in that poll. Put Kefka in there with Cloud and two other characters that people CARE about, and I don't see him advancing. ...And maybe it's me, but I just don't see people giving half a crap about a random Mii. Honestly, I'd see more people rallying behind Little Mac as a "joke" vote than Matt. --- Nominate Serge. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/17/2007 1:07:44 PM | message detail |
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Augh! 300 posts since last night? Lame. Guess I'll have a couple of topics to catch up on since I'm gone till Sunday (friend's camp. getting drunk and playing risk FTW!) TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/17/2007 1:17:03 PM | message detail |
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Bowser is more closely related to Yoshi and Luigi, so there are fewer
factors to separate those guys from Ganondorf, thus Bowser failing to
be a "fan favorite" may make the difference among the Mario characters.
Ganondorf, however, is from a different series. He still only managed 18.78% despite how many horrible scrubs are in that poll. Put Kefka in there with Cloud and two other characters that people CARE about, and I don't see him advancing. Yet that at least possibly suggests the point that Kefka can resist SFF against Cloud, since Kefka didn't do much better than 19% on Crono. Just a possible point, and it isn't really worth more or less than anything else you could get out of a typical POTD. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| NominateSerge | Posted 8/17/2007 1:25:01 PM | message detail |
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Well, I just highly doubt he's going to get enough of the vote to get
past the second round. 18.78% is the best he could possibly hope for in
that scenario, and with two other characters that are as popular or
more popular than he is, he's going to struggle to get THAT much, I
think. You saw that he couldn't even manage 12% with Sephiroth,
Ganondorf, Diablo, and CATS in a poll. I do agree that old school FF is
going to look better in a multiway poll because they do have some loyal
fans, but unless Cloud goes 70%+ in that poll, I can't see Kefka coming
out of there. --- Nominate Serge. |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/17/2007 1:28:26 PM | message detail |
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but Cloud/Kefka/Auron/X makes it an easy choice there! --- xexyz |
| creativename | Posted 8/17/2007 1:31:49 PM | message detail |
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Mac, what you're talking about with leeching seems like the definition of SFF to me. Fanbase-splitting. The dynamics should be different 4-way than 2-way, but then, that's true for pretty much everything 4-way vs. 2-way. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/17/2007 1:36:30 PM | message detail |
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SFF is generallly interpreted as being when a character is unusually
preferred within the fanbase for the two characters, so Link vs.
Ganondorf is SFF but Cloud vs. Sephiroth is not. However, in a setting like this, no matter how good Sephiroth/Auron/Vivi/Zero/whoever is at "resisting SFF", it doesn't matter, because they have to share with another character. Even if the proportions remain the same, both characters are hurt because they have to split the votes of the overall fanbase. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| NominateSerge | Posted 8/17/2007 1:38:05 PM | message detail |
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That's still SFF, just with a different twist because the format is different. --- Nominate Serge. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/17/2007 2:05:00 PM | message detail |
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right, but it seems like people are righting of SFF for characters like
Auron because he's been so good at resisting it in the past, when they
shouldn't be. Just because he can hold up against higher FF guys 1v1
doesn't mean they're not going to noticeably weaken him in this format,
because they will. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/17/2007 2:17:12 PM | message detail |
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I had forgotten that both Bowser and Auron faced Cloud in 2k3...just as a comparison in back-to-back rounds: Auron - 27.8% Bowser - 29.97% Then for the Bowser/Auron comparison through Crono last year: Bowser - 42.56% Auron - 45.5% Take them as you will when you throw those two in against Cloud again alongside either Ryu or Shadow in the same poll. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| NominateSerge | Posted 8/17/2007 2:20:50 PM | message detail |
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If Cloud hurt Sephiroth that much last year (who didn't get SFF'd
head-to-head), imagine how much it's going to hurt Auron (who DID get
SFF'd head-to-head). I don't think Auron's going to have what it takes
to survive round 3, though he's the only one of the second round
fourpack I consider a lock to get there. That's what makes it tough. I
already know Auron gets to round 3 and doesn't advance, but who joins
him and then beats him? I got Ryu right now, but I'm nervous about it since he's already burned me before. --- Nominate Serge. |
| NominateSerge | Posted 8/17/2007 2:52:01 PM | message detail |
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I just remember that Shadow of the Colossus was in the PS2 GotY poll in 2005. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2247 It performed decently, a solid third place finish, ahead of Soul Calibur III (take that, Nightmare!). Does this say anything about Wander's chances? --- Nominate Serge. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/17/2007 3:01:32 PM | message detail |
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Well, SC3 is the weakest Soul Calibur...and do people actually like Wander? I've seen a lot more Agro fans than Wander fans. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/17/2007 3:01:32 PM | message detail |
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| NominateSerge | Posted 8/17/2007 3:02:34 PM | message detail |
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Well, Wander got into this contest over Agro, so...apparently, some
people like him. You'd figure that SotC fans would at least support him
in a poll like the one he's in. --- Vote for Serge. |
| NominateSerge | Posted 8/17/2007 3:05:35 PM | message detail |
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Although, now that I think about it, Wander might have the "...Who the
heck is Wander?" problem because his name is never said in the game.
You have to look at the credits in the instruction booklet to find his
name. --- Vote for Serge. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/17/2007 3:06:45 PM | message detail |
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Eh, maybe. But we don't always see the most popular character from a
game get in - Sub-Zero vs. Scorpion or Aeris vs. Tifa/Vincent are
probably the best examples of this. Or, if you want something that
wasn't "influenced by CJayC", there's also Chun Li vs. Akuma. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| NominateSerge | Posted 8/17/2007 3:07:34 PM | message detail |
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Oh, I didn't claim Wander > Agro by any means, but I'm saying that
since he got into the contest at all, he seems to have SOME fans. --- Vote for Serge. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/17/2007 3:10:46 PM | message detail |
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Not sure how good that logic is, considering that Tanner made it into the contest. Sure, he has a few fans...just not enough to mean anything. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| charmander6000 | Posted 8/17/2007 3:49:50 PM | message detail |
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Tanner was lucky to have his game released right when the nominations opened. Does that remind you of anyone in this contest? --- The Board 8 BOP - http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB6%20BOP.xls Topic - http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=37528396 |
| MoogleKupo141 | Posted 8/17/2007 3:50:48 PM | message detail |
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Not really. --- OH JEEZE! |
| swirIdude | Posted 8/17/2007 3:53:31 PM | message detail |
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Tanner was lucky to have his game released right when the nominations opened. Does that remind you of anyone in this contest? Nope. I'm not thinking of any swordsmen. --- Pokemon FC: 0129 8285 9148 Jump Ultimate Stars FC: 1504 2045 7334 |
| NominateSerge | Posted 8/17/2007 4:06:19 PM | message detail |
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Nah, I can't think of any guy whose name starts with the letter "I." --- Vote for Serge. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 8/17/2007 4:09:43 PM | message detail |
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Iink is lucky he was an unlockable in Mario Strikers Charged. Without
it, I doubt he would have gotten the noms needed to get in. --- Moltar Status: Bored and slightly sarcastic. The Analysis Crew...believe |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/17/2007 4:21:02 PM | message detail |
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Holy crap! Link was unlockable in Charged?! Pics Now! --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/17/2007 4:22:17 PM | message detail |
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yeah that sounds amazing --- Pokemon Pearl Code: 2663-9266-2709 WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/17/2007 5:05:33 PM | message detail |
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I had forgotten that both Bowser and Auron faced Cloud in 2k3...just as a comparison in back-to-back rounds: Auron - 27.8% Bowser - 29.97% Don't forget Bowser had this to deal with http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=4&pos=50 I'm pretty sure that cost him a few percentage points. I always thought those sprite pics were unfair. The FFVII characters got rendered 3D models while everybody else got sprites or badly ripped in-game models (Squall, Vercetti). The FFVII should have gotten field models dammit! We have yet to see a FFVII Lego model used in these contests... --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/17/2007 5:09:12 PM | message detail |
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You know, I was kinda holding this as my big gamble for the contest
since I didn't hear much about it, but might as well talk about it. Not
like I really care about winning. But I'm totally taking Vincent to
beat Crono out in the division final. Am I the only one here taking
that? I don't even see it as that big of a gamble actually... I'm
surprised it hasn't gotten more discussion. --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| Master Moltar | Posted 8/17/2007 5:12:02 PM | message detail |
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But I'm totally taking Vincent to beat Crono out in the division final. This train has already left the station. --- Moltar Status: Bored and slightly sarcastic. The Analysis Crew...believe |
| NominateSerge | Posted 8/17/2007 5:12:49 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, I was really surprised that we haven't seen Vincent > Crono
being picked more. They looked to be near equals last year as it was,
and people have been questioning Crono's status as a "favorite"
character for YEARS. Vincent DID manage to get an easy second place in
the Favorite FFVII Character poll. 18% with all of those characters in
there ain't bad. --- Vote for Serge. |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 8/17/2007 5:13:05 PM | message detail |
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It hasn't gotten much discussion yet, but it's only a matter of time
before it takes up about 200 straight Stats Topic posts. I saw the idea
tossed around by several people after the bracket was unveiled and have
very seriously considered taking it myself. Vincent is already close to
Crono and a huge fan favorite; these are known facts. My gamble, if I
choose to take the upset, will be the assumption that Link will hurt
Crono more than Vincent. I just have this gut feeling that he might. --- yoblazer33: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/17/2007 5:13:13 PM | message detail |
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I am debating it big-time... I feel bad doing it though because it's
friggin' Crono though, and I think a lot of other people have that
Noble Nine stigma to deal with too. --- scrumptious cats |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/17/2007 5:19:49 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, but Vincent is about as close to the Noble Nine as you can get.
And we're talking about a favorites poll. I always thought that Crono
isn't really a favorite
of a lot of people... certainly not over Vincent. Plus with Link
hovering over the poll, the other 3 are going to be fighting for
scraps. Vincent is going to get a chunk of that no matter what. I don't think Crono holds out. --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/17/2007 5:21:01 PM | message detail |
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what percentage are you expecting for Link? --- scrumptious cats |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/17/2007 5:21:14 PM | message detail |
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Well not really a favorites poll, but you know what I meant... With
Link in that poll, you're going to take a lot of the casual support of
the other characters out. I think Vincent is the bigger fan favorite
than Crono. --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 8/17/2007 5:22:44 PM | message detail |
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Link - 60% Vincent - 15% Crono - 17% Zero - 8% --- Fc: 4768 3939 5325 |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/17/2007 5:23:22 PM | message detail |
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Well, Link got 43% with Cloud, Sephiroth, and Snake in there with him.
Against Crono, Zero, and Vincent, I think Link can push for 50% or
more. Especially post TP. --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 8/17/2007 5:23:44 PM | message detail |
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what percentage are you expecting for Link? Probably around 48-50%. He put up nearly 43% against three tougher opponents, and he could very well be stronger this year. --- yoblazer33: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/17/2007 5:24:24 PM | message detail |
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Zero - 8% No. --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/17/2007 5:24:32 PM | message detail |
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I see him in the 40s. Zero, Vincent and Crono are no joke. sure,
they're not Cloud/Seph/Snake, but I don't think he gets much more. if
he gets 50%+, I'd be a lot more confident about Vincent. Crono's got his own fans too, though. I wouldn't discount that. --- scrumptious cats |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 8/17/2007 5:24:37 PM | message detail |
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Two brothers from different mothers. --- yoblazer33: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| ZFS | Posted 8/17/2007 5:24:56 PM | message detail |
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Okay, yeah... Link's not getting anywhere close to 60%. --- Believe |
| NominateSerge | Posted 8/17/2007 5:25:59 PM | message detail |
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If Link gets 60% in that poll, he's breaking 90% in the first round. --- Vote for Serge. |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/17/2007 5:26:02 PM | message detail |
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Crono's got his own fans too, though. I wouldn't discount that. Didn't say he didn't, but it's not like he's that stronger than Vincent. I'd say they are pretty even in this scenario. --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 8/17/2007 5:27:13 PM | message detail |
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If Link gets 60% in that poll, he's breaking 90% in the first round. And what is wrong with that? Link has three Tanner-esque opponents. --- Fc: 4768 3939 5325 |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/17/2007 5:27:35 PM | message detail |
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zwong v2.0 represent! --- scrumptious cats |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 8/17/2007 5:30:35 PM | message detail |
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There must be a way to summon zwong... --- yoblazer33: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| ZFS | Posted 8/17/2007 5:31:19 PM | message detail |
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And while I think Vincent's got a shot at that, Crono's got more than
just a few fans who would stick with him no matter what. The CT fans
should be a pretty loyal bunch. Good upset pick, though. Just not
feeling it, myself. --- Believe |
| Master Moltar | Posted 8/17/2007 5:32:02 PM | message detail |
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And what is wrong with that? Link has three Tanner-esque opponents. I don't know about that. Link does have to deal with Bidoof in the match, who is also Nintendo. That could lead to a fanbase split between the two. --- Moltar Status: Bored and slightly sarcastic. The Analysis Crew...believe |
