GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 451
| __Mega64__ | Posted 8/17/2007 5:07:32 AM | message detail |
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Hell, I actually liked Kid Icarus as a kid. I even bought it for VC. Still haven't got past the third level yet. :/ --- I'm an eel. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/17/2007 5:17:38 AM | message detail |
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I was pondering Snake and Riku winning their division, but then I
remembered what snake did to Sora in 2005 and put Kirby there instead.
Now I'm not even sure if Riku survives two rounds. If Snake SFFs him
badly enough, Ryu H could squeak in there. ~*ST*~ --- Petition for a system notification when a contribution is removed: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=37308859 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/17/2007 7:48:10 AM | message detail |
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I do have Ryu Haya squeaking in there, but Riku could pull out a win good enough because he is a good bit above Ryu. --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| JaKyL25 | Posted 8/17/2007 8:21:50 AM | message detail |
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I'm fairly confident with Snake > Kirby to close the division. I'm having more issues earlier in the division, with Nightmare vs. Vyse and whether or not Roxas steals enough of Riku's votes to make Ryu H. > Riku happen. It's most certainly Snake > Riku in the next round though. The top half seems simple enough: Kirby > L-Block Kratos > D. Kong Kirby > Kratos --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. Character Battle V Contest Winner! |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 8/17/2007 8:24:32 AM | message detail |
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Now I'm not even sure if Riku survives two rounds. If Snake SFFs him badly enough, Ryu H could squeak in there. I think Snake will hurt both those guys pretty badly, so Riku's greater legitimate strength will still pull through in the end. Remember how badly Dante owned Hayabusa? Just imagine Snake. --- yoblazer33: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/17/2007 8:30:19 AM | message detail |
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I'm pretty confident in Tingle advancing out of Mudkip and Pit... I
mean Pit is guaranteed dead last in that poll, and I'm just willing to
place my brackets fate in the hands of quite possibly the most deranged
video game fans in the world. As for Amaterasu, Little Mac, and Matt,
eh. This site is absolutely Wii crazy right now, and with the lack of
games the Wii actually has to offer, I'm sure Wii Sports has been being
played nearly as much as any other game for the system. To me it pretty
much comes down to Matt and Amaterasu, and it depends on how much of
the vote Dante gets. The better Dante does, the better I think
Amaterasu's chances are. He's virtually unknown (can I get sales
figures for Okami?), but those who have played it all seem to want to
explode in their pants over it. Matt just seems like the next best
option just based on him actually being known. I could be completely
underrating Little Mac because of my age too, but eh, just don't see it
happening. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| JaKyL25 | Posted 8/17/2007 8:34:38 AM | message detail |
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No, I think people old enough to have played Punch-Out! when it first came out (like myself) are prone to overrating Little Mac. I really doubt he's very strong. Like someone else said, unless Little Mac is somehow announced as an SSBB character before the bracket lockdown, I'm going with Matt. The only thing that bothers me in the back of my head about that pick is the voters' potential racism. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. Character Battle V Contest Winner! |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 8/17/2007 8:37:29 AM | message detail |
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I'm seriously considering Tingle. Pit is completely unknown outside of
Smash hype, and Mudkip is just a newer Pokemon. However, I don't expect
Matt to move on. He's far too generic and "huh?" to qualify as a joke
character, and I believe the popularity of Wii Sports is being
significantly overblown. Sure, every Wii owner has played it, but how
many people actually care? It was fun as a means to get my 73-year-old
grandmother to enjoy gaming for once in her life, but I haven't dusted
the thing off in months, and I hold firm that the same is true for most
GameFAQs voters. This is still a hardcore gaming site, after all, and
Wii Sports is diametrically opposite of "hardcore." --- yoblazer33: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| JaKyL25 | Posted 8/17/2007 8:41:39 AM | message detail |
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Matt's strength doesn't truly come from his role in Wii Sports, though. His true strength is that people might vote for him because he's a Mii. Everyone loves Miis! --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. Character Battle V Contest Winner! |
| Acronym | Posted 8/17/2007 8:47:48 AM | message detail |
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I'm fairly confident with Snake > Kirby to close the division. I'm having more issues earlier in the division, with Nightmare vs. Vyse and whether or not Roxas steals enough of Riku's votes to make Ryu H. > Riku happen. It's most certainly Snake > Riku in the next round though. The top half seems simple enough: Kirby > L-Block Kratos > D. Kong Kirby > Kratos I'm with you until the last line. Do you think Kirby is going to SFF the hell out of DK, or do you just think the general Nintendo vote is that much bigger than Kratos' fanbase? Even if L-Block is a complete non-entity, I don't think this match is quite as clear cut as the two leading into it. --- I don't like Haley Scarnato. |
| JaKyL25 | Posted 8/17/2007 8:52:15 AM | message detail |
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I'm with you until the last line. Do you think Kirby is going to SFF
the hell out of DK, or do you just think the general Nintendo vote is
that much bigger than Kratos' fanbase? Moreso the latter, although I think past contests have shown that DK doesn't have that many devoted fans. He seems to be the biggest example of people voting for someone merely along company lines, and now the much-more-likeable Kirby is stealing those votes. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. Character Battle V Contest Winner! |
| voltch | Posted 8/17/2007 9:13:49 AM | message detail |
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what's the general opinion on prince of persia and sub-zero? --- Rufus shinra destroyed my bracket in the sc2k6 contest. |
| JaKyL25 | Posted 8/17/2007 9:16:43 AM | message detail |
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Sonic > Sub-Zero I think that one's pretty unanimous. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. Character Battle V Contest Winner! |
| voltch | Posted 8/17/2007 9:19:02 AM | message detail |
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i had that in my bracket as well. if sub beats MC pop shouldn't beat too much of a threat. --- Rufus shinra destroyed my bracket in the sc2k6 contest. |
| JaKyL25 | Posted 8/17/2007 9:20:19 AM | message detail |
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You can pretty much write that same duo in to win the next round as well, actually. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. Character Battle V Contest Winner! |
| charmander6000 | Posted 8/17/2007 9:22:15 AM | message detail |
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I've been thinking about Pac-Man/Big Boss again and I remembered that
in Yoshi and Luigi's matches with Pac-Man they both SFF him about the
same amount so it wouldn't totally be out there to assume Mario would
SFF Pac-Man by the same degree. This can also be shown with SFF Ness in
2k3 and 2k5 where 2k3 would beat 2k5 with less than 52%. The only problem now is that we don't have a good reading on Pac-Man or even Big Boss. I've tried playing with the numbers, but I can get anywhere from Big Boss winning with 60% to losing with 40%. The "best number" I could get was Big Boss winning 54/46, but in a four way poll environment anything could happen. --- The Board 8 BOP - http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB6%20BOP.xls Topic - http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=37528396 |
| voltch | Posted 8/17/2007 9:26:04 AM | message detail |
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so if we get a naked snake pic instead of the old boss will there be any difference like face CATS or angel kefka? and will sprite snake hurt him depending on when it turns up? --- Rufus shinra destroyed my bracket in the sc2k6 contest. |
| JaKyL25 | Posted 8/17/2007 9:27:23 AM | message detail |
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When it comes to that poll, I'm just using logic instead of any stats. I can't imagine very many people at all who would be inclined to vote for Pac-Man over Mario except for Mario anti-voters, and now those anti-voters have other options. Mario > Big Boss. It took some debate, but I was swayed. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. Character Battle V Contest Winner! |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/17/2007 9:28:31 AM | message detail |
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I think Snake will hurt both those guys pretty badly, so Riku's
greater legitimate strength will still pull through in the end.
Remember how badly Dante owned Hayabusa? Just imagine Snake. Dante/Ryu H was pretty much right what the stats said it should be. Ryu H has independent strength, while Snake has already demolished Kingdom Hearts once. ~*ST*~ --- Petition for a system notification when a contribution is removed: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=37308859 |
| Majin Lou | Posted 8/17/2007 9:28:58 AM | message detail |
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Hmm, I wonder how much, if any, difference it would make if Big Boss
got a Naked Snake pic instead of an old man pic. I'm guessing there
would be at least a little bit of a difference. He'll probably get the
old man pic, though. --- http://danceandstomp.net/forum/ Desert Rose, why do you live alone? If you are sad, I'll make you leave this life. |
| JaKyL25 | Posted 8/17/2007 9:29:58 AM | message detail |
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so if we get a naked snake pic instead of the old boss will there be any difference like face CATS or angel kefka? That's what I was trying to argue earlier to further talk myself into Big Boss beating out Pac-Man, but I was pretty much proven wrong. He'll get an old-man pic. and will sprite snake hurt him depending on when it turns up? Typically Round Three is the Sprite Round. I suppose it could, but not enough for Kirby or Kratos or Riku to pass him. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. Character Battle V Contest Winner! |
| voltch | Posted 8/17/2007 9:31:28 AM | message detail |
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i'd love it he just got the sean connery pic from MG2. --- Rufus shinra destroyed my bracket in the sc2k6 contest. |
| charmander6000 | Posted 8/17/2007 9:33:32 AM | message detail |
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I can't imagine very many people at all who would be inclined to
vote for Pac-Man over Mario except for Mario anti-voters, and now those
anti-voters have other options. Well SFF Pac-Man is only expected to get around 18% on Mario so you are right about that. Also if BB get's a MGS3 pic rather than his old pic like he got in that match against Auron then I would give the match to BB right there. --- The Board 8 BOP - http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB6%20BOP.xls Topic - http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=37528396 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/17/2007 9:34:39 AM | message detail |
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I expect Mario to SFF Pac-Man worse. he has more iconic status than
Luigi and Yoshi. I picture the beating being worse than what he did to
DK. --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| JaKyL25 | Posted 8/17/2007 9:35:51 AM | message detail |
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Exactly. I would imagine most of Pac-Man's votes are "gaming icon"
votes. He's certainly in the wrong 4-pack to count on those. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. Character Battle V Contest Winner! |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/17/2007 9:49:47 AM | message detail |
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I've got a strange feeling Ryu H can pull off a victory of second place over Riku honestly... --- Pokemon Pearl Code: 2663-9266-2709 WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| hitz30000 | Posted 8/17/2007 9:51:32 AM | message detail |
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Any ideas on who's coming second in Div 2 Round 2 Cloud vs. Jill vs. Marcus vs. Kefka? --- ¬_¬ |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/17/2007 9:53:12 AM | message detail |
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Jill/Ocelot --- Pokemon Pearl Code: 2663-9266-2709 WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| hitz30000 | Posted 8/17/2007 9:55:23 AM | message detail |
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And for Division 2 final I'm guessing Auron will get SSF'd and perhaps let Bowser slip through? --- ¬_¬ |
| Acronym | Posted 8/17/2007 9:58:31 AM | message detail |
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Any ideas on who's coming second in Div 2 Round 2 Cloud vs. Jill vs. Marcus vs. Kefka? I'm taking Marcus there. Gears is big on this site and big in general, and neither Jill nor Kefka have given me much to put confidence in in recent years - Jill lost to Ryu Hayabusa, and Kefka to Tommy Vercetti, both of whom Marcus compares favorably to. And even if he is a relative bust, I think Cloud dominates that match and however big Marcus' fanbase is, it's the safest from Cloud's influence. --- I don't like Haley Scarnato. |
| JaKyL25 | Posted 8/17/2007 9:58:59 AM | message detail |
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I have Cloud/Jill out of the 4-pack mentioned a few posts ago, but I'm really not sold on it yet. And yeah, Cloud will SFF Auron out, letting Bowser slip in. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. Character Battle V Contest Winner! |
| MadGamer_11 | Posted 8/17/2007 10:19:32 AM | message detail |
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And yeah, Cloud will SFF Auron out, letting Shadow slip in. Fix'd --- "To be forgotten is worse than death"-Freya FFIX |
| swirIdude | Posted 8/17/2007 10:51:03 AM | message detail |
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And yeah, Cloud will SFF Auron out, letting Ryu slip in. Fixed. --- Pokemon FC: 0129 8285 9148 Jump Ultimate Stars FC: 1504 2045 7334 |
| __hiei__ | Posted 8/17/2007 10:57:25 AM | message detail |
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the truth is that all four (Auron,Bowser,Shadow,Ryu) are peobably on a
very close level this year (with auron being slightly ahead of the
others). anything can happen in that match.I'm taking Shadow. |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/17/2007 11:33:28 AM | message detail |
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And for Division 2 final I'm guessing Auron will get SSF'd and perhaps let Bowser slip through? Quite possible, but it's worth noting that Auron held up very well to both Cloud and Sephiroth pre-KH2 and recently managed 45% against Crono too. It's also been pointed out that Auron killed in the FFX-poll, so...don't count him out. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/17/2007 11:35:01 AM | message detail |
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Quite possible, but it's worth noting that Auron held up very well to both Cloud and Sephiroth pre-KH2 It doesn't matter how well you hold up to SFF; leeching votes is still a problem, and it will happen. Vote-leeching is going to be a lot more relevant in this contest than SFF ever was. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/17/2007 11:35:58 AM | message detail |
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You know what I noticed? While most of the four-packs are in
alphabetical order, a few are not (most are in the lower half of the
bracket). Crono Sam Fisher Simon Belmont Raiden HK-47 Lloyd Irving Jak Zero Duke Nukem Ike Gordon Freeman Guybrush Threepwood Sonic the Hedgehog Sub-Zero Prince of Persia Viewtiful Joe Let the speculations begin! --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| ZFS | Posted 8/17/2007 11:37:12 AM | message detail |
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Auron's going to be more than capable of holding up in that poll
against Cloud. I'm not expecting it to hit him to any significant
degree, personally. It might be there, but I don't think it's enough to
let any of the other debated characters slip by. --- Believe |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/17/2007 11:43:27 AM | message detail |
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Sonic the Hedgehog Sub-Zero (The) Prince of Persia Viewtiful Joe There's your solution for one of them! Vote-leeching's going to be potentially big, sure, I just wanted to point out Auron's done plenty well in difficult positions before when he was weaker than he is now. It doesn't hurt that Auron did about 3% better on Crono than Bowser last year, too, though this format will prove that this doesn't mean a whole lot. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/17/2007 11:44:17 AM | message detail |
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Again, it's not SFF, it's fanbase leeching. We never saw any realy hint
of SFF between Cloud and Seph before, and yet when putting them
together in the Battle Royale, their potential strength was severely
limited. Auron's barely stronger than Bowser as it is, and he didn't
completely resist SFF against Cloud/Seph anyway, so I'm not seeing how
he could win here with leeching added to things. Think about it this way: you start off with Cloud/Bowser. Let's say that's a...69/31 match. Then add Auron. How much does he take from Cloud, and how much does he take from Bowser? I guarantee you that he'll be taking far more from the former than from the latter, and that he won't match up to Bowser. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/17/2007 11:45:56 AM | message detail |
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Oh, yeah, it won't be as big as if it were, say, Aeris or Sora in
Auron's position, but it doesn't have to be big. Auron's not that much
stronger than Bowser. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| voltch | Posted 8/17/2007 11:46:25 AM | message detail |
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was shadow's loss to tidus a complete fluke then? --- Rufus shinra destroyed my bracket in the sc2k6 contest. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/17/2007 11:49:15 AM | message detail |
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In 2k4, Shadow was weaker than Tidus. And so was Knuckles. Knuckles is much stronger than he was in 2k4, and it's assumed that Shadow will similarly boost. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| ZFS | Posted 8/17/2007 11:51:04 AM | message detail |
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Leeching, SFF -- it doesn't matter. Auron's going to havea base there
that isn't going to up and abandon him for Cloud. I'm not talking about
the people who are like "Yeah, Auron's cool. *click*" here either;
those votes will assuredly go to Cloud. I'm talking about the people
who think Auron to be the best character, or one of the coolest
characters in gaming. Those folks aren't going to jump ship to the more
popular Square character, at least I don't believe so. --- Believe |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/17/2007 11:54:15 AM | message detail |
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Think about it this way: you start off with Cloud/Bowser. Let's say
that's a...69/31 match. Then add Auron. How much does he take from
Cloud, and how much does he take from Bowser? I guarantee you that
he'll be taking far more from the former than from the latter, and that
he won't match up to Bowser. Understandable, but at the same time I don't foresee Bowser being many people's favorite character. Nintendo's definitely going to have some pull, but -- as I mentioned before -- Bowser is going up against nothing but fan-favorites of different series. In this format, it's hard for me to think Bowser will hold up so well, even once he's in a poll with no other Nintendo characters. I still haven't decided if I want Auron or Bowser to advance yet though. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/17/2007 11:59:17 AM | message detail |
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neither, give me ryu -- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/17/2007 12:39:44 PM | message detail |
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Let's discuss a little bit about potential future rounds in Division 1 and the safety of our brackets. First, look at Knuckles. He probably has a chance of losing to Rikku, as well as losing to Yoshi in the next round, which basically means Yoshi has two opportunities to make the third round. If Knuckles wins the first two rounds, Samus most likely has it in the bag over Mega Man (it would likely be Knuckles/Mega Man/Samus/Frog), but if Yoshi makes it there (decent chance, despite MM/Yoshi SFF in the past...), I'm thinking Mega Man will edge out Samus. However, I'd give Samus more of a chance in the second scenario than I would vice versa for Mega Man, given how much stronger she is, so Samus should still be favored overall. Now let's examine Division 2 and the later round scenarios : First off, the upper half might need a little attention. For one thing, whoever wins between Jill and Ocelot has a good chance at making Round 3. But, Kefka and Marcus are still in the way. Marcus naturally has a shot at making the third round, but what about Kefka? I'm thinking he'll hold up better SFF-wise against Cloud than he would against Crono, since Cloud isn't really "oldschool" like Crono is (despite them being only two years apart, heh), and Kefka arguably has a dedicated fanbase (don't mention Crono/Kefka). With Cloud getting roughly 60% of the vote (I would imagine), everyone's gonna have a percentage in the teens, magnifying the advantages Kefka may have over the others. We really ought to keep an eye on all four of these characters. Then there's Round 2's version of the "Four-pack of Doom"... obviously someone from Shadow/Auron/Bowser/Ryu will be getting second place in Round 3 to Cloud. Um... it's hard to say much of anything aside from the possibility of Auron getting SFFed by Cloud, so he would be expected to have a disadvantage against Cloud... so Shadow/Bowser/Ryu might actually be the safer picks over Auron in that round. Basically, that means you might be able to afford picking against Auron in Round 2 more than other guys, assuming they all had an equal shot at reaching Round 3. (However, the problem is that I think Auron has the *best* chance at making Round 3) However, if you're like me and struggling between Bowser and Ryu... predicting Auron to get second place to Cloud in Round 2 might not be a bad idea since, as HM and others were saying, Auron most likely has some pretty dedicated fans to compensate for some of the split-fanbase. It just might be better to side with Auron than to take Ryu/Bowser when you don't know WHO between those two characters will make it there. (yeah, yeah, maybe Shadow has a shot, too) --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| hochiminh155 | Posted 8/17/2007 12:45:04 PM | message detail |
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You people act like Final Fantasy characters like Auron have a more hardcore fanbase than Nintendo characters like Bowser --- Fc: 4768 3939 5325 |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/17/2007 12:46:44 PM | message detail |
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I see Luigi and Yoshi doing better in a multi-option poll than Bowser. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/17/2007 12:46:49 PM | message detail |
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If Knuckles wins the first two rounds, Samus most likely has it in
the bag over Mega Man (it would likely be Knuckles/Mega
Man/Samus/Frog), but if Yoshi makes it there (decent chance, despite
MM/Yoshi SFF in the past...), I'm thinking Mega Man will edge out
Samus. However, I'd give Samus more of a chance in the second scenario
than I would vice versa for Mega Man, given how much stronger she is,
so Samus should still be favored overall. 1. We already know that Yoshi and MM share quite a bit of fanbase overlap. Samus might be hurt a little more than Mega Man there, but not much more, at all. 2. Metroid Prime 3. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
