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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 450
smitelf | Posted 8/15/2007 8:47:30 PM | message detail |
Here's a question: Zelda > Vincent or Vincent > Zelda in round
one? Zelda didn't have much exposure in TP, but she's Zelda, so I don't
think it matters. Vincent's had his own game, though...I'm leaning
toward Zelda. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
Nobody9090 | Posted 8/15/2007 8:47:34 PM | message detail |
Final Fantasy XII has actually strengthened Tidus a little because now
he's not the current new, hip, Square main character for everyone to
hate on, Vaan has taken that place now. Tidus actually looks better now
that XII is out and X is so superior to it. --- ~Love a Nobody~ ~Stop calling me a Nobody!~ |
ZFS | Posted 8/15/2007 8:48:15 PM | message detail |
I think you guys are putting WAY too little faith in the yellow rat. I'm not sure where all the faith is even coming from. I mean, he may actually advance, but let's be real here, it wouldn't be because Pikachu is worth something. He'd do it either because Serge just sucks or Tidus pulled some wonky SFF. --- Believe |
trannyscience | Posted 8/15/2007 8:48:28 PM | message detail |
Isaac is probably more of a Square character than a Nintendo one anyway. I'd expect more of an RPG overlap than a Nintendo one. --- xexyz |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/15/2007 8:48:50 PM | message detail |
Serge isn't hated, but his game is. That factor was enough to put Master Hand over Kuja, I can't see why it won't help a Pikachu who's already a lock to beat Serge 1v1, let alone with Tidus taking the Square fanboy vote. TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
THEVinceYoung | Posted 8/15/2007 8:49:50 PM | message detail |
Serge isn't hated, but his game is. That factor was enough to put Master Hand over Kuja Mindless FFIX bashing for the loss. Kuja IS hated. FFIX isn't. --- What now, Merril Hoge? |
LordOfDabu | Posted 8/15/2007 8:50:10 PM | message detail |
Personally, I'm taking Serge > Pikachu since it's a possibility and I refuse to lose a point taking a pokemon. --- Hello world |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/15/2007 8:50:13 PM | message detail |
Ewwww X is superior to XII? What the hell kind of whacky drug are you smoking? TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
Nobody9090 | Posted 8/15/2007 8:51:04 PM | message detail |
Vaan is going to be very weak. He'll probably get less votes than Rikku. --- ~Love a Nobody~ ~Stop calling me a Nobody!~ |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/15/2007 8:51:26 PM | message detail |
We need less discussion about how much Serge will fail, and more about the possibility of Balthier outlasting Leon. TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
ZFS | Posted 8/15/2007 8:51:29 PM | message detail |
Pikachu who's already a lock to beat Serge 1v1, What? Since when? --- Believe |
smitelf | Posted 8/15/2007 8:51:37 PM | message detail |
From BlAcK TuRtLe Ewwww X is superior to XII? What the hell kind of whacky drug are you smoking? TuRtLe The characters are definitely superior, IMO. I don't see Balthier clocking in anywhere near Auron. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
HaRRicH | Posted 8/15/2007 8:51:44 PM | message detail |
Eh, maybe I jumped the gun about Serge-hatred. I know CC is hated by
many and vastly unplayed compared to CT though...so I stand corrected. I can't see why it won't help a Pikachu who's already a lock to beat Serge 1v1 I'd take Serge > Pikachu one-on-one, but it'd probably be 55-45 or closer. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
trannyscience | Posted 8/15/2007 8:52:23 PM | message detail |
gah, now I want to see Serge in a real contest. he just got shafted by
this matchup. five years of nominating down the tubes? maybe. augh --- xexyz |
smitelf | Posted 8/15/2007 8:53:18 PM | message detail |
Balthier could possibly beat Leon one-on-one, but with SFF in the way, no. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
ZFS | Posted 8/15/2007 8:53:38 PM | message detail |
Yeah. It's probably not the best draw he could've gotten here, but I wouldn't say he's screwed just yet. --- Believe |
Nobody9090 | Posted 8/15/2007 8:53:46 PM | message detail |
Balthier, on the other hand, I have doing very well in this contest.
He'll easily make it to the Final Rounds, he'll be stronger than Yuna,
but he'll get killed in the semifinals. --- ~Love a Nobody~ ~Stop calling me a Nobody!~ |
trannyscience | Posted 8/15/2007 8:53:54 PM | message detail |
CC hate is overstated. it sold pretty well and Serge is essentially a Crono clone. ~400000 copies sold (that doubles Xenogears, if you're curious) and the same appeal as Crono. a lot of people who think it's a great game. he'd do well in this format if he didn't have Tidus in his division. --- xexyz |
ZFS | Posted 8/15/2007 8:54:43 PM | message detail |
We need less discussion about how much Serge will fail, and more about the possibility of Balthier outlasting Leon. Not with Tidus there. --- Believe |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/15/2007 8:55:06 PM | message detail |
What SFF? Unless you think Vivi/Teedus can survive after tearing pretty evenly into eachother. Yellow rat to round 3! TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
THEVinceYoung | Posted 8/15/2007 8:55:14 PM | message detail |
Balthier will make it to the third round, but having to contend with
Vivi is going to hurt them both with Dante and Leon getting through in
the end. --- What now, Merril Hoge? |
BeTheMan | Posted 8/15/2007 8:56:07 PM | message detail |
Is there a reason that people seem to think Serge isn't "mainstream"? From the CC wiki page: "Chrono Cross sold 850,000 and 650,000 units in Japan and the United States respectively.[4] It was re-released once in the United States as a Greatest Hits title and again as part of the Japanese Ultimate Hits PlayStation series.[5] Critics praised the game's complex plot, innovative battle system, varied characters, moving score, vibrant graphics, and success in breaking convention with its predecessor.[3][35][7][36][37][38][39][40][41][42][43] Electronic Gaming Monthly gave Chrono Cross a Gold Award, scoring it 10/10/9.5 in their three reviewer format.[44] GameSpot awarded the game a perfect 10, one of four in nearly 1,100 games, and its Console Game of the Year Award for 2000.[3] Famitsu rated the game 36 out of 40 from four reviewers.[25] As of July 2007, Rotten Tomatoes and Game Rankings rate Chrono Cross at 92 and 93 percent.[2][45] He'll suffer from splitting the Square vote with Tidus, but he shouldn't suffer from lack of awareness. |
ZFS | Posted 8/15/2007 8:56:20 PM | message detail |
Yellow rat to round 3! Aha. --- Believe |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/15/2007 8:57:17 PM | message detail |
What the hell is this? Pikachu as the sole Nintendo representative in a
match with 2 lower-tiered Final Fantasy characters (from the 2 worst
modern games to boot) and you think he doesn't advance? TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
trannyscience | Posted 8/15/2007 8:57:54 PM | message detail |
650,000? higher than I heard. hmm. http://gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/196917.asp check out that hate. --- xexyz |
smitelf | Posted 8/15/2007 8:58:05 PM | message detail |
From BlAcK TuRtLe What SFF? Unless you think Vivi/Teedus can survive after tearing pretty evenly into eachother. Yellow rat to round 3! See, the problem is that Pikachu will require votes from people who like him better than Tidus, Vivi, AND Leon to advance...who are these people exactly? Tidus and Vivi will bash each other, but Pikachu doesn't have the popularity to compete at that level. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
ZFS | Posted 8/15/2007 8:58:09 PM | message detail |
This is you thinking way too highly of Pikachu, or grossly overestimating the "sole Nintendo character" bit. --- Believe |
smitelf | Posted 8/15/2007 8:59:22 PM | message detail |
From BlAcK TuRtLe What the hell is this? Pikachu as the sole Nintendo representative in a match with 2 lower-tiered Final Fantasy characters (from the 2 worst modern games to boot) and you think he doesn't advance? Pikachu has no fanbase. Doesn't matter if he's Nintendo if no one particularly likes him. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
Nobody9090 | Posted 8/15/2007 9:00:09 PM | message detail |
Dante is going to be weak, as usual with boring action game characters.
He'll get beat by everyone in his last match in the third round. Balthier will be stronger than Tidus, who will be stronger than Leon, who is a boring action game character who happens to be in a really good game. But with Tidus getting stronger due to growing nostalgia for the younger kids among other reasons I see Balthier as 1 and Tidus as 2 in the third round of that bracket. Yes they are from the same series but I don't think it will factor in this match as much as it will in others. --- ~Love a Nobody~ ~Stop calling me a Nobody!~ |
THEVinceYoung | Posted 8/15/2007 9:00:24 PM | message detail |
(from the 2 worst modern games to boot) You like FFIX more than FFX and CC? --- What now, Merril Hoge? |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/15/2007 9:00:37 PM | message detail |
If this was 2002, 2003 or 2004, I'd have taken Serge, but nowadays,
people associate more to the Pokemon games than to the Pokemon cartoon.
And I think that cartoon is the crux of Pikachu hatred. Not to mention
that we haven't seen Pikachu perform since 2k2 (with lower votals and
more people voting to "be cool"). Call me crazy, but I have a feeling
Pikachu is pretty safe here. TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/15/2007 9:00:42 PM | message detail |
Balthier, on the other hand, I have doing very well in this contest.
He'll easily make it to the Final Rounds, he'll be stronger than Yuna,
but he'll get killed in the semifinals. heh. --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
Draco1214 | Posted 8/15/2007 9:00:43 PM | message detail |
FFX is such a weak game, tieing SSBM is nothing. --- Currently Playing: Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner, Persona 3 |
smitelf | Posted 8/15/2007 9:02:40 PM | message detail |
From BlAcK TuRtLe Call me crazy Crazy. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/15/2007 9:02:55 PM | message detail |
See, the problem is that Pikachu will require votes from people who like him better than Tidus, Vivi,
AND Leon to advance...who are these people exactly? Tidus and Vivi will
bash each other, but Pikachu doesn't have the popularity to compete at
that level. That shouldn't be hard at all And I was referring to the round 2 matchup with Vivi and Tidus. And meant to say worst modern FF games. TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
Nobody9090 | Posted 8/15/2007 9:03:15 PM | message detail |
My biggest problems are Vivi and the Prince of all Cosmos, they are the ones that I'm a little worried about in my bracket. --- ~Love a Nobody~ ~Stop calling me a Nobody!~ |
trannyscience | Posted 8/15/2007 9:03:23 PM | message detail |
you guys still haven't learned to ignore him :( --- xexyz |
HaRRicH | Posted 8/15/2007 9:03:24 PM | message detail |
Why are EGM's scores for CC from 2004? The game's much older than
that...and last I remember, when the game originally came out, EGM
barely gave it a silver. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
ZFS | Posted 8/15/2007 9:03:46 PM | message detail |
That shouldn't be hard at all Call me crazy --- Believe |
HaRRicH | Posted 8/15/2007 9:05:04 PM | message detail |
Bold Tidus and Vivi all you want, but Vivi smashed DK and looked to be
pretty unaffected when he faced Sephiroth. It's hard to imagine Tidus
costing Vivi the next round because of Pikachu. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
smitelf | Posted 8/15/2007 9:05:33 PM | message detail |
Characters need fanbases to survive when there are three other options.
Pikachu doesn't have, and never had, a solid fanbase supporting him.
That would be okay if he were against unknowns like round one, but he's
not. Pikachu is screwed. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/15/2007 9:05:36 PM | message detail |
I'm always right about 1 thing that nobody else in the stats topic sees
coming. It happened in 2k5 (Pac/Ocelot), it happened in BSE
(Warcraft/GTA) and it happened last year (Sonic = MM on Snake). I have a feeling this will be my "BT's common sense making a fool of the stats regulars" moment for CB6. TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
HaRRicH | Posted 8/15/2007 9:06:25 PM | message detail |
Can we ignore you on everything else then? =P --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
ZFS | Posted 8/15/2007 9:07:09 PM | message detail |
That's what's going on here. Pikachu > Tidus, Vivi. Rocking the common sense there, BT! --- Believe |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/15/2007 9:07:30 PM | message detail |
Actually, never mind. This year I will have 2 such moments, with the other being Zero to the quarter finals! BELIEVE TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
THEVinceYoung | Posted 8/15/2007 9:07:37 PM | message detail |
Nobody else sees Pikachu advancing to the second round? Uhh...I think he's in the majority of brackets. --- What now, Merril Hoge? |
smitelf | Posted 8/15/2007 9:08:43 PM | message detail |
From THEVinceYoung Nobody else sees Pikachu advancing to the second round? Uhh...I think he's in the majority of brackets. He's definitely advancing to the second round, but not to the third. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
Master Moltar | Posted 8/15/2007 9:08:48 PM | message detail |
Nobody (sane) see Pikachu advancing to the third round. --- Moltar Status: Hyped through the roof! The Analysis Crew...believe |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/15/2007 9:08:48 PM | message detail |
I think it's pretty accepted that Tidus/Vivi will be taking a fairly
even split between the 2 (with Vivi getting the larger chunk IMO), so
why can't NintendoFAQs put Pikachu over in his first real appearance
since jobbing to Cloud in 2k2? TuRtLe ~~~ "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" -trancer1 BlAcK TuRtLe. The cream of Zero fanboyism |
Nobody9090 | Posted 8/15/2007 9:09:31 PM | message detail |
L-Block is going to be stronger than most people think it will be. --- ~Love a Nobody~ ~Straight Outta PotD~ |