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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 450

UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/15/2007 7:15:20 PM | message detail
Magus > Mario



*Creativename's websites*

Everything you could ever imagine:
http://www.GameFAQsContests.com
http://www.sc2k5.com
http://www.sc2k4.com

Sortable Table for Every Contest Match:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/19


*Extrapolated Standings*

Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
http://sc2k5.com/drupal/node/11

Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings:
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

Extrapolated Standings for All Contests (links to all brackets are on the left):
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/


*Solarshadow's Sites*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/2003/index.html

Spring 2004 Contest: (not currently updating)
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/sp2004/index.html


*Old Stats topics*

Summer 2002 Contest:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/page1.html

Summer 2003 Contest:
http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com/archive/topic1p1.html
http://www.angelfire.com/games5/sum_contest/Page1.htm (See note)

2003-2004 Off-Season:
http://membres.lycos.fr/shindohikaru/stats1.htm (See note)
Note: Don't use the links in the topic to browse through the pages, change the page number in the URL.

Spring 2004 Pre-Season (Chance the number after "Season" to view other pages; there are three of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringPreSeason1.htm

Spring 2004 Contest (Change the number after "Stats" to view other pages; there are eight of them):
http://sc2k4.com/archive/04SpringStats1.htm


*Match Pictures*

All the match pics, and thanks to RockMFR for finding the missing ones!
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php


*Miscellaneous*

Creativename's Page of Links:
http://sc2k4.com/links.php

UltimaterializerX's Contest Sites (some offensive language):
http://prophetchallenge.hyperboards2.com/index.cgi
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

NGamer64's Archive Site and (lol) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language):
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

A List of Acronyms, A Lesson on Percentages, and Some Odd Matches:
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/acronymspercentsanomalies.htm

All Time Top 10 Lists:
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2002stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2003stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/spring2004stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2004stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/spring2005stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2005stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/july2006stats.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/summer2006stats.htm

HaRRicH's Fourpack of Fun Board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=585007

TRE's poll listing (every poll!):
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

Aprosenf's Poll Script:
http://www.geocities.com/aprosenf/allpolls.txt

GameFAQs' Top 100 Games
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/contest/top10

Manual Poll Updater:
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/pollupdate.php



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Tediz247 | Posted 8/15/2007 7:15:47 PM | message detail
wtf so late

>_>
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ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 8/15/2007 7:22:35 PM | message detail
Squall > Sonic
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Draco1214 | Posted 8/15/2007 7:23:00 PM | message detail
Alucard > Ness
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Heroic Viktor | Posted 8/15/2007 7:50:57 PM | message detail
Leon>Sephiroth

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 8/15/2007 7:51:30 PM | message detail
L-Block > Laharl
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Evil_REmade | Posted 8/15/2007 7:51:45 PM | message detail
Zolom > Bracket
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ff6man | Posted 8/15/2007 7:52:42 PM | message detail
Link > Tingle
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ZFS | Posted 8/15/2007 7:53:46 PM | message detail
...Master Chief > Sonic!

(That sounds sooo wrong -- but oh so right!)

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KamikazePotato | Posted 8/15/2007 7:55:06 PM | message detail
Ulti! How dare you put up the next topic before the other one hits 500! This is unacceptable!
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JaKyL25 | Posted 8/15/2007 7:57:35 PM | message detail
The Rightful Elite 8:

Mega Man
Ryu (Street Fighter)
Jak
The Boss

PaRappa
Ness
Solid Snake
Daxter
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/15/2007 7:58:17 PM | message detail
Ganon > Sonic!

It's happening this year, folks!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/15/2007 8:00:17 PM | message detail
Zero > Vincent/Crono

Go Cinderella run!

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HaRRicH | Posted 8/15/2007 8:07:44 PM | message detail
I was trying to pick Serge or even Isaac over Pikachu for awhile, but I realized that Pikachu still managed to get 20% on an anomaly-ridden Cloud in 2k2. Throw in the lessened Pokemon hate, the Pokemon/Nintendo resurge, Tidus/Serge/Isaac certainly NOT equating to Cloud, and Tidus probably hurting Serge while Isaac doesn't do much to Pikachu...

...Pikachu's probably surviving. If he gets put out, it's because Serge surprises.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 8/15/2007 8:08:22 PM | message detail
Rikku > Knuckles!
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/15/2007 8:08:53 PM | message detail
dunno if Tidus is really going to hurt Serge that bad. I can see Isaac hurting Pikachu just as equally, anyhow.
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ZFS | Posted 8/15/2007 8:09:21 PM | message detail
I'm banking on "Serge surprises," myself. Partly because I think he can win that, partly because the other option is augh.

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Kratos_42 | Posted 8/15/2007 8:10:27 PM | message detail
Bidoof > Link
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trannyscience | Posted 8/15/2007 8:10:48 PM | message detail
I want SO badly to take Serge.. but this is just the perfect fourpack for Pikachu.
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ZFS | Posted 8/15/2007 8:14:34 PM | message detail
Yeah. Unfortunately, the more I hear people talking about Pikachu (why in the world do people like Pikachu...) the more it seems like he's going to win that. But I'm going to risk the point here.

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Master Moltar | Posted 8/15/2007 8:17:25 PM | message detail
I think this is less about people liking Pikachu, and more about them preferring Pika over the opposition (Ike and Serge are cult, and Tidus isn't a favorite either). I can see Pikachu doing well just from casuals seeing a Pokemon they recognize in this type of match.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/15/2007 8:17:58 PM | message detail
the other guy is Isaac, not Ike.
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Master Moltar | Posted 8/15/2007 8:18:51 PM | message detail
i got that ssbb on the brain, my bad
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trannyscience | Posted 8/15/2007 8:19:08 PM | message detail
yeah, exactly. I might take Serge over Pikachu heads-up, but probably not in this situation.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/15/2007 8:19:34 PM | message detail
Isaac might not be much better than Ike at this point...but whatever.
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therealmnm | Posted 8/15/2007 8:20:25 PM | message detail
Wow, I think Pikachu takes second easily... but wow, winning the four pack? Tidus must have really fell off to you guys. I can't see him not winning this group with ease. Seeing how well Yuna, Rikku, and Auron did last year, I'm pretty sure that Tidus would have bounced back as well if he wasn't stuck in a SFF match with Squall... I certainly don't think he has gotten weaker than he showed against Kirby...
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ZFS | Posted 8/15/2007 8:20:42 PM | message detail
I think people talking about Tidus not being a guarantee for first here are getting a wee bit out of hand with the Pikachu talk. He might take second, but he's got zero chance at first.

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/15/2007 8:21:01 PM | message detail
Isaac shares more of a fanbase with Pikachu than he does with anyone else (other than other Pokemon) in the contest.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/15/2007 8:21:15 PM | message detail
I guess I can see PIkachu winning it seeing how Pikachu is the most casual-friendly one, (when you don't count Tidus) out of all of them.
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THEVinceYoung | Posted 8/15/2007 8:21:30 PM | message detail
but I realized that Pikachu still managed to get 20% on an anomaly-ridden Cloud in 2k2.

That isn't THAT impressive. Had he done it in KH-boosted Cloud, then yeah, it'd be somewhat impressive.
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Master Moltar | Posted 8/15/2007 8:21:49 PM | message detail
I hope i wasn't implying that I had Pika > Tidus, because I don't. I was just justifying Pika for #2 over Isaac.
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therealmnm | Posted 8/15/2007 8:23:48 PM | message detail
Yeah, I re-read it after I posted that. You were implying that Tidus isn't such a popular character that he will just dominate all of the vote.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/15/2007 8:25:42 PM | message detail
Regardless, 20% on somebody supposedly stronger than Mario...and 20% on somebody that Tidus, Serge, and Isaac combined wouldn't touch.
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charmander6000 | Posted 8/15/2007 8:26:08 PM | message detail
You know I almost took Serge > Pikachu, but decided to go with the series I like better.
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therealmnm | Posted 8/15/2007 8:28:41 PM | message detail
I can't believe people are holding steadfast to Isaac's stat value off of one match from 4 years ago in picking this. Really... who is Isaac???? Is he anywhere on the video game radar today?
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THEVinceYoung | Posted 8/15/2007 8:29:36 PM | message detail
Someone who gets 20% on the equivalent of 2003 Mario is only worth 15.25% on BL. Such a person would not be expected to defeat 2003 Gordon Freeman.

That is NOT impressive.
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trannyscience | Posted 8/15/2007 8:36:46 PM | message detail
yeah. 20% on Cloud is impressive now? I know we're dealing with likely fodder, but come on now. I bet Serge could get 20% on Mario.
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ZFS | Posted 8/15/2007 8:37:52 PM | message detail
Didn't Vyse manage 20% on a much stronger Cloud?

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THEVinceYoung | Posted 8/15/2007 8:38:08 PM | message detail
Well, closer to 19%, but yeah.
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Halcyon26 | Posted 8/15/2007 8:39:06 PM | message detail
Am I the only one with Pikachu advancing two rounds?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/15/2007 8:41:26 PM | message detail
My god guys, Serge?

That's worse than Meta-Knight. I think you guys are putting WAY too little faith in the yellow rat.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/15/2007 8:41:48 PM | message detail
I would consider it with him being the only Nintendo character in the poll but eh, I don't expect Pikachu to be high enough to take advantage of something like that.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/15/2007 8:42:14 PM | message detail
I have Pikachu advancing 2 rounds, due to Vivi/Tidus killing eachother off in round 2.

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HaRRicH | Posted 8/15/2007 8:42:39 PM | message detail
Cloud-2k2 should have been above that regardless...besides, for something more contemporary, Nidoran F still managed 18% on Samus-2k6. Pikachu would do similarly if not better.

Anyway, Pikachu would probably be stronger now than in 2k2 and this format hurts him far less, so given his competition he doesn't HAVE to be that strong. Beating Tidus is a pipedream, but Serge likely won't be impressive in either general strength or in this particular match he's in thanks to Tidus. I don't think Isaac will hurt Pikachu much, either (doubt even Felix would). Pikachu is potentially the second strongest of the four, the Pokemon fanbase is fairly firm, and Pikachu is up against two other hated characters and one many people don't know.

This is a golden opportunity for Pikachu, whether he steals second or falls just shy of it.
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smitelf | Posted 8/15/2007 8:43:16 PM | message detail
Tidus > Pikachu is a no-brainer.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/15/2007 8:45:58 PM | message detail
I'd like to discuss what happens later in that division.

Specifically, does Balthier have what it takes to edge out Leon and advance with Danta?

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LordOfDabu | Posted 8/15/2007 8:46:19 PM | message detail
It'd be incredible if Serge pulls a Crono and beats characters way more mainstream than he is. I'm not getting my hopes up though. Serge doesn't look as cool. :(
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/15/2007 8:46:20 PM | message detail
Serge could get 20% on Mario, but Serge has a notably stronger Square character to contend with than himself. Pikachu is competing with a notably weaker Nintendo character. Throw in the recent Nintendo swing and Pikachu/Serge probably not being too bad of a match...it's hard for me to turn my back against the yellow rat right now.
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THEVinceYoung | Posted 8/15/2007 8:46:29 PM | message detail
Cloud-2k2 should have been above that regardless...

Not by much.

besides, for something more contemporary, Nidoran F still managed 18% on Samus-2k6. Pikachu would do similarly if not better.

Ehh, Nidoran F is a joke entry. She's not something I would point to if you want a shining example of what Pikachu can do. He will NOT get ANY joke votes. It's a completely different circumstance, I think.

And Serge is hated? I know a lot of people dislike Chrono Cross, but I've never heard of this Serge hatred.
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therealmnm | Posted 8/15/2007 8:46:54 PM | message detail
Serge is... hated?
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