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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 449
| trannyscience | Posted 8/15/2007 5:12:47 PM | message detail |
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it should be every round. which is rather interesting -- mix up someone in the last couple of rounds and that's liable to worth as many points as a super debated match you got right. --- xexyz |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/15/2007 5:13:35 PM | message detail |
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The argument is that Peach folds in the face of anything resembling
Nintendo, and I'd be inclined to agree here. Also, I think Fox might be
stronger than her indirectly... --- Currently Playing: Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner, Persona 3 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 8/15/2007 5:14:23 PM | message detail |
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Alright...going down the line... KOS-MOS is weak, but has a dedicated fanbase...Diablo is stronger but might have votes stolen from him by Arthas..this contest is hard. --- ...You know what would make this fight even better? If it had the Beetleborgs. And Godzilla.- SEP |
| ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 8/15/2007 5:14:48 PM | message detail |
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It's not bonus points, per se. More like you get full credit. Two
points apiece for having them in the correct slot. One point for having
them advance but in the wrong place. --- "As long as I'm with you...as long as you're by my side...I won't give up, even if I'm scared." - Tifa Lockheart |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/15/2007 5:15:00 PM | message detail |
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Diablo isn't that much higher than KOS-MOS, to be honest. --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| smitelf | Posted 8/15/2007 5:16:00 PM | message detail |
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From Draco1214 The argument is that Peach folds in the face of anything resembling Nintendo, and I'd be inclined to agree here. Yeah, that's why I've got Fox winning right now...*sigh* I guess I'll stick with it, nothing's ever going to be certain... --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Political Compass: -0.38, -4.21 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 8/15/2007 5:17:03 PM | message detail |
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Didn't Xeno 3 come out between this contest and the last? It may not boost KOS-MOS but at least she won't drop. --- ...You know what would make this fight even better? If it had the Beetleborgs. And Godzilla.- SEP |
| ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 8/15/2007 5:17:17 PM | message detail |
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Well, I'd be more inclined to think that Fox is stronger than Peach in
the first place and Wario being there is going to hurt her more than
Fox. --- "As long as I'm with you...as long as you're by my side...I won't give up, even if I'm scared." - Tifa Lockheart |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 8/15/2007 5:17:24 PM | message detail |
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Oh, but that match also takes place on a Tuesday...that could be bad. --- ...You know what would make this fight even better? If it had the Beetleborgs. And Godzilla.- SEP |
| Radix | Posted 8/15/2007 5:18:23 PM | message detail |
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I've got Seph > Fox, but I also have Banjo and CATS in there >> --- "You're nothing more than lowly cookie dough! Yet you would dare defy me!?" |
| swirIdude | Posted 8/15/2007 5:25:02 PM | message detail |
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Anyone remember how we all thought Magus was a demi-god and that Crono's win over Magus was all SFF? Well... Magus (2005c) VS Crono (2004c) Magus has a strength of 31.93. Crono has a strength of 39.87. Crono wins with 59.96% of the vote! A win of 19,322 with 97,025 total votes cast. Maybe not so much! --- Pokemon FC: 0129 8285 9148 Jump Ultimate Stars FC: 1504 2045 7334 |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/15/2007 5:26:01 PM | message detail |
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Jill/Ocelot sucks to predict. I actually think Ocelot might have the
upper hand in a direct match against Jill (remember what MGS did to RE
in the games contest), but the inclusion of Cloud makes things hard.
FF7/MGS SFF is well documented by now and that could easily give Jill
the win here. However, wouldn't FF7 and RE also share a fanbase overlap
if MGS can SFF RE? It's certainly possible Cloud can syphon votes away
from Jill, too. To make matters even worse, however, RE held up pretty
well against FF in the series contest. This one's a tossup and it can
hurt your score if you get it wrong since Jill and Ocelot have very
good chances at making Round 3. I'm leaning towards Ocelot at the
moment, but it could change. --- Currently Playing: Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner, Persona 3 |
| swirIdude | Posted 8/15/2007 5:27:50 PM | message detail |
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2006 Jill gets 60.99% on 2005 Revolver Ocelot. I know lol X-Stats are
not the best indicator, but don't be so sure Ocelot has Jill one-on-one. --- Pokemon FC: 0129 8285 9148 Jump Ultimate Stars FC: 1504 2045 7334 |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/15/2007 5:27:58 PM | message detail |
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yeah, I hate that match too. I think you're WAY overanalyzing it though. just look at it and say "who's going to get more votes in this setting, Jill or Ocelot?" I went with Jill. FF7/MGS/RE SFF and all kinds of other things you can add to the equation are just overkill. you're going to outthink yourself. --- xexyz |
| Adept of Aiur | Posted 8/15/2007 5:28:12 PM | message detail |
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I remember when Ocelot lost to Pac-Man. --- "An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." |
| ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 8/15/2007 5:28:25 PM | message detail |
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I'm not going to change because whenever I do, I get it wrong, and I'll
kick myself if I change from Ocelot and he ends up winning anyway. --- "As long as I'm with you...as long as you're by my side...I won't give up, even if I'm scared." - Tifa Lockheart |
| ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 8/15/2007 5:29:21 PM | message detail |
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2006 Jill gets 60.99% on 2005 Revolver Ocelot. The Jill whose value is derived from Tifa? Yeah, not the most reliable one there. --- "As long as I'm with you...as long as you're by my side...I won't give up, even if I'm scared." - Tifa Lockheart |
| Master Moltar | Posted 8/15/2007 5:30:44 PM | message detail |
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To make matters even worse, however, RE held up pretty well against FF in the series contest. I don't think getting tripled is holding up pretty well. I just went with FF7 > MGS > RE on the tier and that's basically it. As Tran said, it isn't worth the stress. --- Moltar Status: Hyped through the roof! The Analysis Crew...believe |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/15/2007 5:31:17 PM | message detail |
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my Jill value is 23.75, for whatever that's worth. I just took Ryu's
2k5 value and slapped it on her. better than that Tifa value, anyway. --- xexyz |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 8/15/2007 5:31:28 PM | message detail |
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Jill Valentine (2006c) has a strength of 27.84 against Base Link. Revolver Ocelot (2005c) has a strength of 21.72 against Base Link. Jill Valentine 60.99% 65,595 Revolver Ocelot 39.01% 41,953 TOTAL VOTES 107,549 Jill Valentine wins with 60.99% of the vote! A 23,642 vote margin of victory. Yeah I'm picking Jill. --- ...You know what would make this fight even better? If it had the Beetleborgs. And Godzilla.- SEP |
| swirIdude | Posted 8/15/2007 5:31:41 PM | message detail |
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Oh Yeah, ouch, it's a much closer win for the 2004 Jill, but of course, these numbers are starting to get old and unreliable. --- Pokemon FC: 0129 8285 9148 Jump Ultimate Stars FC: 1504 2045 7334 |
| ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 8/15/2007 5:31:44 PM | message detail |
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It held up pretty well in the fact that it didn't do much worse than Mega Man. --- "As long as I'm with you...as long as you're by my side...I won't give up, even if I'm scared." - Tifa Lockheart |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/15/2007 5:31:55 PM | message detail |
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None of the matches at this point are giving much stress outside of that one and the infamous Alucard one. --- Currently Playing: Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner, Persona 3 |
| ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 8/15/2007 5:32:29 PM | message detail |
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Again, 2006 Jill is derived from Tifa, unless you really want to tell me Peach is equal to Luigi. --- "As long as I'm with you...as long as you're by my side...I won't give up, even if I'm scared." - Tifa Lockheart |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 8/15/2007 5:32:36 PM | message detail |
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Alright, Division 2 finals. Cloud, Jill, Auron, and Bowser. Does Cloud SFF Auron enough for Bowser to get second? --- ...You know what would make this fight even better? If it had the Beetleborgs. And Godzilla.- SEP |
| swirIdude | Posted 8/15/2007 5:33:42 PM | message detail |
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Yes he does, if 2003 is any indication. Poor Auron. --- Pokemon FC: 0129 8285 9148 Jump Ultimate Stars FC: 1504 2045 7334 |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/15/2007 5:34:29 PM | message detail |
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Poll 1355 (08/22/2003) East Division Semifinal: Cloud Strife vs. Bowser 77991 70.03% Cloud Strife 33381 29.97% Bowser Poll 1341 (08/06/2003) East Division Round 2: Cloud Strife vs. Auron 81716 72.2% Cloud Strife 31470 27.8% Auron TOTAL VOTES: 113186 oh jeeze ! --- xexyz |
| ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 8/15/2007 5:34:49 PM | message detail |
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Auron and Bowser faced Cloud in the same year back to back, and Bowser
only did about 2% better. Granted, that's still a point in the Koopa
King's favor, but I wouldn't be COMPLETELY shocked if Auron advanced. --- "As long as I'm with you...as long as you're by my side...I won't give up, even if I'm scared." - Tifa Lockheart |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 8/15/2007 5:35:03 PM | message detail |
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woohoo good enough for me even if it is 4 years old --- ...You know what would make this fight even better? If it had the Beetleborgs. And Godzilla.- SEP |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 8/15/2007 5:37:02 PM | message detail |
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Plus you have Sony system character, Sony system character, Sony system
character, and then the lone Nintendo character. He'll be supported
pretty well. --- ...You know what would make this fight even better? If it had the Beetleborgs. And Godzilla.- SEP |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/15/2007 5:38:34 PM | message detail |
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Jill would beat Ocelot directly but it wouldn't be by much. I still have Jill anyhow. --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 8/15/2007 5:39:22 PM | message detail |
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I don't know why people are suddenly buying into this same-system-SFF all of a sudden. No one ever really bought that before. --- "As long as I'm with you...as long as you're by my side...I won't give up, even if I'm scared." - Tifa Lockheart |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/15/2007 5:40:03 PM | message detail |
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probably because it's so minor.. but in these things, 1% can be a lot. --- xexyz |
| ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 8/15/2007 5:42:37 PM | message detail |
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Well, there's going to be all sorts of overlap anyway, even between
Nintendo and Square. It's not like those two companies don't share a
bunch of the same fans. --- "As long as I'm with you...as long as you're by my side...I won't give up, even if I'm scared." - Tifa Lockheart |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/15/2007 5:48:32 PM | message detail |
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Auron will suffer in two ways from having Cloud with him in the poll:
one, the Square vote gets split between Cloud and Auron, hurting them
both. Then, Auron gets hurt by SFF while Cloud benefits from it. So,
Auron gets hurt in two ways while the two factors kinda cancel each
other out for Cloud. Yeah, and that idea will apply to lots of matches, of course.... SFF may hurt characters even more in a multi-option poll than if it's 1-on-1, especially for the weak links of the fanbase. However, with a match like Mega Man/Yoshi/Knuckles/(???), Yoshi might not have enough actual Nintendo fanbase overlap with Mega Man to get hurt by a fanbase split (especially in multi-option), but only by Mega Man's SFF against him, as ironic as that may sound. I'm still taking Knuckles over Yoshi, though. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 8/15/2007 5:50:24 PM | message detail |
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I'm very late, but why are we hearing all this Meta Knight talk? If Peach flops, it will be because of mother ****ing CATS. WHAT I SAY --- yoblazer33: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 8/15/2007 5:52:44 PM | message detail |
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4th match of Division 5... Alucard has been consistently strong, but on the decline and is now a midcarder. Assuming Liquid=Frog 2005, he's about equal with Alucard. Zidane is the weakest statistically, but was probably SFFd. Ness is the weakest, but also the only Nintendo character in the poll, giving him the company edge. GAH. --- ...You know what would make this fight even better? If it had the Beetleborgs. And Godzilla.- SEP |
| ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 8/15/2007 5:56:38 PM | message detail |
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Something tells me that people are making too much out of this "It's
the only guy from his company!" factor, or the ITOGFHC!F, as I like to
call it. --- "As long as I'm with you...as long as you're by my side...I won't give up, even if I'm scared." - Tifa Lockheart |
| swirIdude | Posted 8/15/2007 5:57:39 PM | message detail |
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I do think people are making too much of ITOGFHC!F in the case of Ness.
He's rather low on the Nintendo totem pole, as most people know him
only from SSB. That said, I still have him finishing 2nd. --- Pokemon FC: 0129 8285 9148 Jump Ultimate Stars FC: 1504 2045 7334 |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/15/2007 5:57:57 PM | message detail |
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I'm not remembering that acronym. --- xexyz |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/15/2007 5:59:04 PM | message detail |
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anyone think Ryu can place first in that Bowser match? --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 8/15/2007 5:59:14 PM | message detail |
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I have a feeling everyone's going to pick Alucard and Liquid and maybe Ness, and then Zidane is going to win or something. --- ...You know what would make this fight even better? If it had the Beetleborgs. And Godzilla.- SEP |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/15/2007 6:00:04 PM | message detail |
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Alucard has been consistently strong, but on the decline and is now a midcarder. wasn't he always? --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 8/15/2007 6:00:07 PM | message detail |
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Well, how about the...SCC (Solo Company Character) Factor? --- "As long as I'm with you...as long as you're by my side...I won't give up, even if I'm scared." - Tifa Lockheart |
| YoAriel33 | Posted 8/15/2007 6:00:25 PM | message detail |
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I have a feeling a few matches will turn out that way. Should be fun. =) --- yoblazer33: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 8/15/2007 6:00:46 PM | message detail |
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Virtually everyone I've seen is picking Alucard and Ness in some order.
I've only seen maybe one or two other people picking Liquid. --- "As long as I'm with you...as long as you're by my side...I won't give up, even if I'm scared." - Tifa Lockheart |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/15/2007 6:00:48 PM | message detail |
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SCC is an acronym for Other Stuff! how about Leonhart Factor? :) --- xexyz |
| ILessThan3Tifa | Posted 8/15/2007 6:01:33 PM | message detail |
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The Leonhart Factor applies to my Sonic predicting skills! --- "As long as I'm with you...as long as you're by my side...I won't give up, even if I'm scared." - Tifa Lockheart |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/15/2007 6:02:33 PM | message detail |
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dammit! by the way, I'm like quadruple guessing that fourpack. right now I feel Zidane coming in third, maybe second. why? who knows! --- xexyz |
| swirIdude | Posted 8/15/2007 6:03:50 PM | message detail |
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Uh, I thought Vincent had the upper hand on Zelda, but Zelda is
supposed to beat Vincent with 54.79% last year...any statistical
anomaly here? --- Pokemon FC: 0129 8285 9148 Jump Ultimate Stars FC: 1504 2045 7334 |
