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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 448

Master Moltar | Posted 8/14/2007 7:55:47 PM | message detail
I hope not!
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trannyscience | Posted 8/14/2007 7:56:36 PM | message detail
Master Chief is going to be THE argument over the next month.. and rightfully so. to be honest, I don't even think MC needs Halo 3. this isn't some crazy boost. this is casual games doing fantastic in multi-option polls. go look at GTA. go look at Halo. this is just the format that they thrive in. Kratos is going to do well. Master Chief is going to do well. Vercetti will probably even do better than expected.

MC advancing shouldn't really be a question until round 3, and then literally ANYTHING can happen.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/14/2007 7:56:45 PM | message detail
But who's he going to bomb against? Zelos? Side character from a game that scaled its tiny peak over two years ago. Tom Nook? I'd give my left lung to see it happen, but nope.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 8/14/2007 7:56:51 PM | message detail
Quick dates, assuming 09/03 start and no delays:

09/21 - Master Chief/Parappa/Vercetti/Yuna
(09/25 - Halo 3)
10/14 - Master Chief/Yuna/Alucard(Ness/Liquid)
10/25 - Master Chief/Yuna(Alucard)/Ganondorf/Luigi
10/31 - Above vs Dante/Leon
11/03 - Above vs Snake Sonic
11/04 - Final
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ZFS | Posted 8/14/2007 7:58:19 PM | message detail
Yes, but I'm one of the many who think that certain people are giving the next Halo game way too much credit. This is Halo 3, not Halo 1.

I think that's a good thing, particularly because there is more "acceptance" now for the 360 than there ever really was for the Xbox. Doesn't hurt that nearly half the site, according to the polls, would own a 360 and Halo 3 at some point in the near future.

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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/14/2007 7:58:54 PM | message detail
Looks like Galaxy misses the contest by a few days.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/14/2007 8:00:43 PM | message detail
I think people are underestimating Kratos here. If you look at the bracket, even 2k6 Kratos has a very good chance of making it past Kirby. Throw in GoW2 and you have a pretty safe bet he's going with Snake to the quarters.

I also find it hilarious how people are going to overestimate Scorpion because they got burned last year.

Frog will not be losing to him. No way he's fallen THAT far.

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JustForFun1988 | Posted 8/14/2007 8:01:33 PM | message detail
LOL, this year contest bracket are extremely unfair. All of the past contest winners(Clinkothiomus) plus Crono and Megaman are in the first four division. It looks to me that the bracket maker is a Snake and Sonic fan and he wants the final match to be Link,Cloud,Sonic and Snake.
HaRRicH | Posted 8/14/2007 8:02:51 PM | message detail
No way I'm reading everything before me, so I'll predict three potentially-controversial things:

1) Master Chief goes the distance. I'm talking Elite Eight.
2) Vincent outlasts Crono.
3) L-Block wins a match.

#3 is the only one I may change, and that will depend on if I discover who Nathan Hale is.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/14/2007 8:03:13 PM | message detail
So what off the wall upset this year HM?

Mine is Zero getting to the quarters with Link, and I'm considering having him go to the semis (Link/Mario even split?).

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Lightning Strikes | Posted 8/14/2007 8:03:43 PM | message detail
ToS is still strong, as shown by Sheena. She was stronger than Lloyd and about equal with Kratos. Some popular games have characters that nobody cares about. I believe Fenix maybe one such example.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/14/2007 8:04:23 PM | message detail
Dude, get it right. It's Solid Clinkerothio Aran

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/14/2007 8:04:41 PM | message detail
Frog will not be losing to him. No way he's fallen THAT far.

as if it matters. they're moderately close. KH is a hardcore fanbase. that's all you need to consider that Frog > Axel is by no means a lock in a poll like that.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/14/2007 8:05:19 PM | message detail
1) Master Chief goes the distance. I'm talking Elite Eight.
2) Vincent outlasts Crono.
3) L-Block wins a match.


This may come as a surprise, but all three of these picks are not too uncommon from what I've seen.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/14/2007 8:06:05 PM | message detail
That's another thing I don't get, how everybody here is completely disregarding Fenix. Have any of you people even PLAYED Gears? Fenix is a badass, and just the type of character the casual voters would eat up. He's getting to round 3 over Jill and Kefka.

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ZFS | Posted 8/14/2007 8:06:29 PM | message detail
So what off the wall upset this year HM?

Master Chief in the final four, baby!

Taking him to the Elite 8 isn't crazy. Taking him to the finals? You gotta believe.

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JustForFun1988 | Posted 8/14/2007 8:06:32 PM | message detail
Dude, get it right. It's Solid Clinkerothio Aran

Seriously BT, Snake never won any contest in the past and I perfer the term Clinkerothiomus, what can you do about it.
HaRRicH | Posted 8/14/2007 8:06:51 PM | message detail
...!

Holy ****. What seem to be the biggest points of controversy?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/14/2007 8:07:02 PM | message detail
Actually, I was talking about Scorpion there. No way Frog's fallen low enough to lose to that scrub.

You could make an argument for Axel, but it seems as though it's a shaky one at best.

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Lightning Strikes | Posted 8/14/2007 8:07:49 PM | message detail
Chief's SFF immunity helps him here. Also, I still can't see Fenix doing well. I'd out him third, slightly behind Zelos but a long way ahead of Nook.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/14/2007 8:07:50 PM | message detail
I've got Fenix in round three and didn't really worry about it.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/14/2007 8:08:56 PM | message detail
Actually, I was talking about Scorpion there. No way Frog's fallen low enough to lose to that scrub.

either way, I don't think Frog gets past the second round anyhow.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/14/2007 8:09:42 PM | message detail
Ganondorf > Sonic aww yeah

Hey, he has TP this time. >_>

The biggest possible irregularity I can think of is the Vincent/Zelda/Link match. This is the first time we're seeing Zelda in a match with Link's picture...she could definitely benefit from that.

Maybe.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 8/14/2007 8:10:23 PM | message detail
I still wouldn't count on him having a super-hardcore fanbase on Gfaqs. Eh, I still don't think he'll get past round 2 unless Halo 3 is out by then.

Even though HM touched on it, I have to chime in, too. He does have a really hardcore base, and that's shown every time anything Halo related hits daylight. No one can touch MC/Halo's dayvote, and it's been consistent in game of the year polls, favorite series polls, etc. This is going to be a great year to be an MC supporter.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/14/2007 8:10:53 PM | message detail
I'm seriously considering Meta-Knight over Peach here, guys.

Peach has no hardcore fans. I don't really like putting Peach second there anymore. I'm considering it between CATS and Meta-Knight. am I crazy?
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trannyscience | Posted 8/14/2007 8:11:25 PM | message detail
I just filled out my first impressions bracket. Fenix in round three is the single thing I am kicking myself in the balls over. I hate, hate, hate that pick, but don't like any of the other things.

I see a match that I'm finding fascinating coming up.. will write about it soon!
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 8/14/2007 8:11:31 PM | message detail
Scorpion doesn't stand a chance. Actually he does, but not a very good one. Unlike Sub-Zero, he had no reason to boost, and Kratos> his last performance... It will be close, but I have Kratos winning out. Unless TNF is real.
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therealmnm | Posted 8/14/2007 8:11:50 PM | message detail
Peach has no hardcore fans. I don't really like putting Peach second there anymore. I'm considering it between CATS and Meta-Knight. am I crazy?

Yeah.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/14/2007 8:12:31 PM | message detail
Not that crazy. I'm very weary about trusting Peach with another Nintendo character, a contest legend, and a joke vet that's guaranteed 10%+.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/14/2007 8:13:19 PM | message detail
Oops, I ended my sentence prematurely.

all in the same match.

"awww yeah"
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/14/2007 8:14:00 PM | message detail
Meta-Knight in second is crazy, yes.

CATS in second is a much better pick.
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 8/14/2007 8:14:29 PM | message detail
The biggest possible irregularity I can think of is the Vincent/Zelda/Link match. This is the first time we're seeing Zelda in a match with Link's picture...she could definitely benefit from that.


Ha, it would be nice, wouldn't it? What I'm hoping for (as a huge Zelda fanboy) is that she's simply more sff resistant than Ganondorf was. He completely collapsed, but just maybe she won't. She did do better on Samus than GDorf, maybe she has more loyal fans.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 8/14/2007 8:14:37 PM | message detail
The question is, how will Kefka perform?
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/14/2007 8:15:12 PM | message detail
I can see Meta-Knight really winning it though. Brawl is one of the biggest hyped games on the site, and he's in the trailer everybody's seen. I can't see Peach actually draining votes from someone like Meta-Knight, so he could pull it off.
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ZFS | Posted 8/14/2007 8:15:57 PM | message detail
I just filled out my first impressions bracket. Fenix in round three is the single thing I am kicking myself in the balls over. I hate, hate, hate that pick, but don't like any of the other things.

Same here. I'm feeling good about it, but primarily because there's nothing that really stands out that makes it too risky. Fenix is guaranteed in the first round; Cloud saps everything from Kefka in the second. Ocelot/Jill may do something, but I'd be more confident with Fenix over those two.

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swirIdude | Posted 8/14/2007 8:15:58 PM | message detail
Master Chief's first match should be on September 21st, just days before Halo 3.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/14/2007 8:16:13 PM | message detail
I don't think Zelda will do horrible in the poll with Link but Link should take enough votes from her for Vincent to slide through.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/14/2007 8:16:15 PM | message detail
Alright. I suppose it's time for my own little analysis to begin.

Division 1:

Knuckles
Rikku
Vaan
Yoshi

I'm really interested in seeing how Vaan will fair against Rikku honestly. Yoshi has this one in the bag however. Knuckles will do nicely and get second place, you betta believe it. Something about that favorite Final Fantasy poll doesn't stir right with me though...same for Rikku's stats. Still, she'll probably manage to SFF Vaan and I'm just speaking crazy talk.

Winners: Yoshi, Knuckles.

Arthas
Diablo
KOS-MOS
Mega Man

Ok first off, **** you token Warcraft filler. Come on, Tron Bonne or Pious could of totally took this spot >_> Mega Man is gonna dominate these hos pretty good. I'm curious to see how KOS-MOS and Diablo go after second place, but something tells me Diablo will make sure KOS-MOS fails here.

Winners: Mega Man, Diablo

Axel
Frog
Samus
Kerrigan

lol Kerrigan. Nuff said. Samus is going to dominate and show just how great MP3 can be for her, Axel actually kind of has a chance to shine here if people think Chrono Trigger decline is THAT bad. But nah, Frog will more than likely stick through this just fine.

Winner: Samus, Frog

Agent 47
Kratos Aurion
Midna
Scorpion

I’m really pissed ToS characters once again made this damn bracket, but you know what, whatever. Midna’s gonna have a chance to destroy these hos, and that’s all I care about. Logic tells me Scorpion will be able to claw his way to second place here. Agent 47 is cool but I see him in last place actually.

Winners: Midna, Scorpion


Yoshi
Knuckles
Mega Man
Diablo

I look forward to this match. Diablo looks certain to be in 4th place, but one can only wonder how Knuckles can do against Yoshi? Yoshi will more than likely beat him, but I was just reminded of how badly Luigi did against Sonic last year by Draco a second ago, so yeah...oh right, Mega Man still powers through and shows he's not gonna be the one to make the Noble Nine fall anytime soon.

Winners: Mega Man, Yoshi

Samus
Frog
Midna
Scorpion

Oh my god I love this fourpack. Scorpion is gonna get jacked up of course and Samus is gonna make these *****es look like mincemeat of course, so the real story here is Midna/Frog. We all know Samus can't handle SFF too well so Midna doesn't have much to worry about there. Can she handle Frog however? I’m pretty sure she’ll be able to beat him. I love both characters a lot, but I’m putting my faith in Midna right now, considering how well Twilight Princess is doing.

Winners: Samus, Midna

Mega Man
Yoshi
Samus
Midna

This is where Midna and Yoshi’s luck runs out. Mega Man and Samus are just going to dominate this poll. Samus will of course win because of Metroid Prime 3. Overall I like this division a lot. It looks to answer a few questions.

Winners: Samus, Mega Man

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/14/2007 8:17:24 PM | message detail
Sam Fisher vs. Marcus Fenix, anyone?

Fisher was close behind Kefka the last time we saw him, and I'm thinking Marcus > Sam. Throw in some SFF against Kefka, and he's straight on his way to third round.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/14/2007 8:18:15 PM | message detail
Fisher was close behind Kefka the last time we saw him

Sam Fisher is overrated.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 8/14/2007 8:20:13 PM | message detail
Kratos A vs. Agent 47 vs. Midna vs. Scorpion is killing me

Scorpion I know will be one winner in that pack, Agent 47 is the weakest so he's out. It's between Kratos A and Midna. On one hand Midna has Zelda backing while Kratos A might suffer from his game being a few years old and might not have the same support.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 8/14/2007 8:20:56 PM | message detail
Midna and Scorpion. That match is pretty easy.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/14/2007 8:21:06 PM | message detail
you actually found that pack hard? why would you even put Kratos Auron that close to Midna in the first place?
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ZFS | Posted 8/14/2007 8:21:25 PM | message detail
Midna and Scorpion. Easy enough.

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trannyscience | Posted 8/14/2007 8:23:18 PM | message detail
Rounds 4 - final)

Samus
Mega Man
Bowser
Cloud

...holy ****. Samus over Mega Man seems natural.. but what if Bowser sucks some Samus votes away? Mega Man SFFed Yoshi pretty good, too. this is such a tossup right here. I think I might go with Mega Man taking second behind Cloud. that's a total tossup.

but in the end, I bet Samus gets 90% of the brackets here because of MP3 + any kind of Brawl hype.

Sephiroth
Mario
Link
Crono

hey, it's a noble nine slugfest. Link probably SFFs Mario a bit here, and Sephiroth will hurt Crono enough to make him a non-factor. pretty obvious result from a heavyweight match.

Luigi (Ganondorf?)
Master Chief (Yuna?)
Leon (Balthier?)
Dante (Vivi?)

yeah, who knows what this match will even be. I like Master Chief finishing second due to his crazy fanbase, and I think Leon is a nice first place pick. this is a gut pick match though, just like the one before it.

Snake
Kirby (Kratos?)
Sonic
Squall (Sora/Aeris?)

give me the nobles. I wonder if Sonic has a chance of coming in first, though - Kirby sucking away any SSB votes (literally), and Squall taking some of those PS1 votes.

Cloud
Mega Man / Samus
Link
Sephiroth

Clinkeroth + a noble niner. yeah, Clink ends up with this, and it won't be close. Cloud and Seph split votes far more than Link and MM/Samus will. whoever the fourth is here will look pretty bad.

Leon/Dante
Master Chief/Luigi
Snake
Sonic

god knows who the other two will be here, but Snake and Sonic once again take it with ease. again, I could see Sonic finishing first here.


Link
Cloud
Snake
Sonic

kind of a blah final. but what can you do?

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/14/2007 8:26:19 PM | message detail
Division 2

Kefka
Marcus Fenix
Tom Nook
Zelos Wilder

Could you round up a more random fourpack to begin a division? I think not. This is a good way to taste Marcus’ strength I suppose they. Something tells me this has potential for a Kefka/Vercetii moment though, with Nook and Zelos not getting many votes of course. Right now I’ve got Marcus > Kefka though and that sounds pretty decent.

Winners: Marcus, Kefka

Cloud Strife
Jill Valentine
Midgar Zolom
Revolver Ocelot

Haha, should have put Zolom in with Sephiroth, but it works with Cloud too. My next door neighbor happens to be banking on Ocelot taking second place here, but I favor Jill Valentine simply because I believe Peach > Pac-Man. Then again there is a little thing called MGS4. I might change it, but right now I have Jill taking second place.

Winners: Cloud, Jill

Auron
Chris Redfield
Pyramid Head
Shadow the Hedgehog

Yay for Pyramid Head! Boo for Shadow returning! Ok yeah this is a pretty obvious match though. I'd be shocked if Shadow could outdo Auron here. I guess it's kind of interesting to see if Pyramid Head can SFF a member of his own genre.

Winners: Auron, Shadow

Bowser
Mewtwo
Ryu SF
Toad

I don't give a damn bout Toad, but Mewtwo sort of got screwed here. But hey, you know what, that's what happens when like 4 or 5 Pokemon make the same damn bracket I guess. Toad is gonna job so hard here. I'm curious to see how far the duel of Bowser and Ryu can go, considering they have Auron and Shadow next round. Sure Bowser’s a lock, but I know there are plenty of Auron and Shadow supporters on this site.

Winners: Bowser, Ryu SF

Marcus
Kefka
Cloud
Jill

This is the end of the line for Marcus and Kefka. Jill will just kind of ride Cloud’s coat tails. If Ocelot makes it instead of Jill, expect the same result.

Winners: Cloud, Jill

Auron
Shadow
Bowser
Ryu SF

Auron/Shadow/Ryu has potential to be quite a Triple Threat. I’ve got faith in Ryu pulling through however. I might change it, I might not, but something tells me Ryu > Auron > Shadow is a good line of thinking. And of course Bowser will make them look like jokes. Then again there is that thing called Shadow/Mario that makes me uneasy at this match. Hmm…

Winners: Bowser, Ryu

Cloud
Jill
Bowser
Ryu SF

Jill FINALLY jobs and jobs hard. Can Ryu withstand the onslaught of Bowser and Cloud and not get doubled?! Probably not this time!

Winners: Cloud, Bowser

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Janus5000 | Posted 8/14/2007 8:27:34 PM | message detail
...Bracket? Yay!
Four-ways? Whoa.
...MIDGAR ZOLOM??
BIDOOF?
...MIDGAR ZOLOM??
MUDKIP?!
....MIDGAR ZOLOM??
L-BLOCK?
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Midgar Zolom > Tifa aww yeah
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SonicRaptor | Posted 8/14/2007 8:29:59 PM | message detail
Yeah, it was jitters I was having earlier that clouded my judgement. Midna/Scorpion, how could I have picked otherwise?

Now, I also have Scorpion being one of the winners in the Samus/Frog/Midna/Scorpion four-pack. Yes, it's a risky pick but nobody made it anywhere in this contest without taking risks.
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LordOfDabu | Posted 8/14/2007 8:30:18 PM | message detail
I wish I knew non-characters like L-block were considered valid. I would have definitely pushed for a carrier rally. It'd do better than Kerrigan!
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SonicRaptor | Posted 8/14/2007 8:31:55 PM | message detail
It's interesting to see that Bacon paid attention to obvious board nominations like L-Block, Midgar Zolom and Bidoof. I still am wondering what GF will be like under the Bacon regime.
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