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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 446

Lady Ashe | Posted 8/9/2007 4:31:19 PM | message detail
1. Who will be the strongest Non-Noble 9 member of this Contest?

Vincent.

2. Who will be the strongest new character in this contest?(Hell you can put Raiden if you like since he's basically new since being SFF'd shouldn't count for anything.)

Probably Raiden. Midna is the only one I see really having a chance of topping him.

3. Will Ryu be able to avoid a doubling from a Noble 9 member once again and stand his ground against them, or his time to decrease and start being trampled upon finally come?

Depends on who he faces.

4. If you had to predict a match that would be most controversial(think Kefka/Vercetti, Crono/Mario, etc)what would it be?

Megas/Vincent!

5. What character will create the biggest upset of the contest?

Vincent.

6. Who will be at the bottom of the x-stats?

I want to say Bidoof, but he'll probably end up facing Snake in the first match and pulling off a Nidoran F. If he was on the opposite end of the bracket from Snake, he would definitely be at the bottom.

7. Who will be the better joke character if both of them make it. Bidoof or Matt the Mii?

Matt. Not everybody knows about the Bidoof fad, but everyone knows about the Wii.

8. Finally, what character will gain the biggest boost, and which will gain the biggest decrease in strength?

Uh, let's say Kratos and... Well, if you want to go by x-stats, Tifa. Otherwise, Magus. (Or Frog if he gets in)
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Warsola | Posted 8/9/2007 4:36:40 PM | message detail
1. Who will be the strongest Non-Noble 9 member of this Contest?

Ganondorf

2. Who will be the strongest new character in this contest?(Hell you can put Raiden if you like since he's basically new since being SFF'd shouldn't count for anything.)

Midna

3. Will Ryu be able to avoid a doubling from a Noble 9 member once again and stand his ground against them, or his time to decrease and start being trampled upon finally come?

This really depends on who he gets to face. I'll go with yes.

4. If you had to predict a match that would be most controversial(think Kefka/Vercetti, Crono/Mario, etc)what would it be?

Ganondorf/Snake

5. What character will create the biggest upset of the contest?

Ganondorf by beating Snake. (Oh god I feel like 2k6 HM -_-)

6. Who will be at the bottom of the x-stats?

Jay Solano.

7. Who will be the better joke character if both of them make it. Bidoof or Matt the Mii?

Matt.

8. Finally, what character will gain the biggest boost, and which will gain the biggest decrease in strength?

Boost: Ganondorf
Drop: Solid Snake
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 8/9/2007 4:37:39 PM | message detail
War has gone insane.
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ZFS | Posted 8/9/2007 4:39:22 PM | message detail
Ganondorf by beating Snake.

Oh my... you're going to have share whatever it is you're on.

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Lady Ashe | Posted 8/9/2007 4:41:34 PM | message detail
So... Ganondorf > pre-Brawl Trailer Snake, basically.
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Warsola | Posted 8/9/2007 4:47:29 PM | message detail
My bracket's have always been insane, this is nothing new. All this means is that Snake is no doubt beating Ganondorf...probably with like 70% >_>
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/9/2007 4:48:47 PM | message detail
I can understand his logic behind Ganon/snake. basically that Gabon is the strongest non-nobler and is nintendo, so prior to ssbb's release ganon will be able to drain his fairweather ninty support. sure i dont buy it for a second, but its not like its completely out of nowhere.
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ZFS | Posted 8/9/2007 4:50:16 PM | message detail
It's completely farfetched is what it is.

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Warsola | Posted 8/9/2007 4:52:04 PM | message detail
I'm more looking at the PS3 hate hurting Snake's MGS4 boost from last year, and then looking at how Snake looked down to his 2k5 form against Samus, and hoping that TP boost + slight SFF in Ganondorf's favor = a massive upset... >_>

That said, I'll probably pansy out if this match can occur in the bracket, but w/e >_>
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 8/9/2007 4:52:30 PM | message detail
Gabon
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therealmnm | Posted 8/9/2007 4:53:20 PM | message detail
Heh, maybe if Ganondorf had been in the SSBB trailer and did something completely badass that had everyone talking (some uber final smash), then carried on that momentum and had a completely wicked role in TP (I'm talking being more to TP than Sephiroth was to FFVII). But alas, Ganondorf was resorted to "Curses! Foiled again!" in TP. I don't even know if I'd take Ganondorf over Vincent in a rematch right now. That's how little I think TP did for him.
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Lady Ashe | Posted 8/9/2007 4:53:32 PM | message detail
PS3 hate? Snake is a Wii character now! But hey, take the upset. You're guaranteed first prize as well as three games from Sir Chris if you're right.
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ZFS | Posted 8/9/2007 4:53:58 PM | message detail
People have no problem anticipating MGS4 while not caring about the PS3 in the same breath. PS3 hate isn't something that's going to have any adverse affect on Snake.

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Haste_2 | Posted 8/9/2007 4:56:09 PM | message detail
128-character (two polls a day) > 128-character (one poll a day) > Tag Team > 64-character with Clink

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swirIdude | Posted 8/9/2007 4:58:24 PM | message detail
128-character (two polls a day) > 128-character (one poll a day) > Tag Team > 64-character with Clink

> 64-character with eroth
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Tediz247 | Posted 8/9/2007 5:06:35 PM | message detail
MGS4 seems to be immune to PS3 hate. It's still the second most anticipated game on the site, behind only Brawl. Even the most vocal PS3 haters admitted that MGS4 was the highlight of the E3 conferences. Snake won't drop, and if he gets officially announced on the SSBB site anytime before he faces a challenge, he'll probably get a bit of a boost.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/9/2007 5:27:40 PM | message detail
Why are so many people picking Raiden? I can't really think of any advantage he'd have over Tidus, and most seem to agree that Midna > Tidus.
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trannyscience | Posted 8/9/2007 5:29:35 PM | message detail
Ganon over Snake is rubbish?

man, what a difference a year makes !
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therealmnm | Posted 8/9/2007 5:30:49 PM | message detail
Why are so many people picking Raiden? I can't really think of any advantage he'd have over Tidus, and most seem to agree that Midna > Tidus.

No.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/9/2007 5:34:41 PM | message detail
No what? When discussing Midna's strength earlier, beating Tidus was where most people seemed to think she'd be.

MGS2 and FFX both came out in the same year. Tidus and Raiden were both hated by a lot of people. The hate for both has died down. Raiden got the MGS4 trailer to boost him some, but FFX is the bigger game. Where's the logic for Raiden > Tidus?
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/9/2007 5:37:59 PM | message detail
MGS2 did get what, 43% on SSBM? that's pretty good given that was Snake's weakest year.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/9/2007 5:38:48 PM | message detail
And FFX got 49%. Don't see how that makes MGS2 as strong as FFX.
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therealmnm | Posted 8/9/2007 5:40:58 PM | message detail
You never saw me say that I'd take Midna over Tidus. Nor would I take Raiden over Tidus. People seem to think that Tidus has totally fell off. He got SFF'd by Squall last year. Based on his last performance against Kirby, he's a solid midcarder at worse. Plus seeing how the other Final Fantasy characters fared last summer, I hardly think that Tidus totally fell off.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/9/2007 5:41:51 PM | message detail
well, given that that was the worst year for MGS, and he gets a little bit of MGS4, there's still somewhat a chance. not high, but it's there.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/9/2007 5:44:56 PM | message detail
It was the worst year for Snake because MGS3 came out after the contest, as far as I'm concerned. And I don't think that Raiden would get much of an MGS3 boost compared to Snake.

Kirby didn't do much better against the Prince of Persia than he did against Tidus. I hope you're not forgetting about how inaccurate Bowser and Kirby are in 2k5. Tidus too is brought down by association.
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Gaddswell | Posted 8/9/2007 5:47:06 PM | message detail
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/9/2007 5:48:17 PM | message detail
I do agree that I wouldn't put Raiden over Tidus though.. but he's still somewhat a notch below him.
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Gaddswell | Posted 8/9/2007 5:48:34 PM | message detail
1. Who will be the strongest Non-Noble 9 member of this Contest?

Zelda


2. Who will be the strongest new character in this contest?(Hell you can put Raiden if you like since he's basically new since being SFF'd shouldn't count for anything.)

Midna


3. Will Ryu be able to avoid a doubling from a Noble 9 member once again and stand his ground against them, or his time to decrease and start being trampled upon finally come?

Yes


4. If you had to predict a match that would be most controversial(think Kefka/Vercetti, Crono/Mario, etc)what would it be?

Don't know. Let's go with Zero/Knuckles.


5. What character will create the biggest upset of the contest?

Depends on the bracket. I don't think the N9 break this year.


6. Who will be at the bottom of the x-stats?

Don't know. Depends on who gets in.


7. Who will be the better joke character if both of them make it. Bidoof or Matt the Mii?

Matt by far


8. Finally, what character will gain the biggest boost, and which will gain the biggest decrease in strength?

Kratos for boost. For drop... Magus I guess.
therealmnm | Posted 8/9/2007 5:53:04 PM | message detail
Kirby didn't do much better against the Prince of Persia than he did against Tidus. I hope you're not forgetting about how inaccurate Bowser and Kirby are in 2k5. Tidus too is brought down by association.

Which is why I said at worst he's a midcarder. I took that into account, thx. And I'm willing to bet that Tidus would have faired a bit better last year if he wasn't put up against Squall, looking at how the rest of the FF crew did.
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therealmnm | Posted 8/9/2007 5:56:33 PM | message detail
And don't forget that Kirby may have been fueled by being a 1-seed in 2k5, unless you think that Yuna boosted to Aeris's level simply off of her small appearance in KH2...
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/9/2007 6:05:59 PM | message detail
Yeah, give me Tidus to kick Midna's pansy ass any day of the week.

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wavedash101 | Posted 8/9/2007 6:06:54 PM | message detail
Tidus or Aeris?

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ZFS | Posted 8/9/2007 6:14:28 PM | message detail
Why are so many people picking Raiden? I can't really think of any advantage he'd have over Tidus, and most seem to agree that Midna > Tidus.

MGS2 not being as strong as FFX doesn't equate into "Tidus beats Raiden confirmed. I mean, Tidus isn't a weak character or anything anyway, but there's enough reason to possibly suspect that Raiden would be the more popular of the two.

And give me Tidus over Midna.

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ZFS | Posted 8/9/2007 6:17:43 PM | message detail
Ganon over Snake is rubbish?

Am I right to assume you're on board the Ganon > Snake train !

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trannyscience | Posted 8/9/2007 6:19:48 PM | message detail
I have no trains, no causes!
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swirIdude | Posted 8/9/2007 6:21:10 PM | message detail
Why is everyone trying to put Ganon over Snake when they would have a better chance of Ganon > Mega Man/Crono?
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ZFS | Posted 8/9/2007 6:21:57 PM | message detail
No train? Man, you're the conductor of Akuma's!

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PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/9/2007 6:22:17 PM | message detail
Because Ganon could do some freaky rSFF on Snake? I don't know really, but I'm not taking him over any noblers, or Vincent.

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trannyscience | Posted 8/9/2007 6:22:26 PM | message detail
Akuma > Raiden confirmed
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Janus5000 | Posted 8/9/2007 6:22:41 PM | message detail
Because Snake's boost is likely due to his nintendo exposure and Ganon has the ability to take that from him.

...Though I'd never do that, if only because of the whole weaker than CATS bit.
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ZFS | Posted 8/9/2007 6:22:46 PM | message detail
I don't think anyone's talking about Ganon > Snake... except Warsola.

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trannyscience | Posted 8/9/2007 6:23:04 PM | message detail
the sheer idea of Ganondorf SFFing something is causing my brain to get zwong'd.
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ZFS | Posted 8/9/2007 6:24:11 PM | message detail
Akuma > Raiden confirmed

We need to see this match. Raiden rips him to pieces guaranteed!

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ZFS | Posted 8/9/2007 6:25:47 PM | message detail
Ganon -- King of SFF.

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/9/2007 6:26:08 PM | message detail
the sheer idea of Ganondorf SFFing something is causing my brain to get zwong'd.

Assumably, it's based on the theory that Samus SFF'd Snake.
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trannyscience | Posted 8/9/2007 6:26:32 PM | message detail
Samus SFF'd Ganon, too. :)
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/9/2007 6:30:05 PM | message detail
And once she beats down Seph, that'll be blamed on SFF too ! !

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trannyscience | Posted 8/9/2007 6:31:43 PM | message detail
I've just realized that 90% of the time I spend here now, is when I'm high and just feel like listening to music in epic fashion.
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therealmnm | Posted 8/9/2007 6:31:55 PM | message detail
Hey guys, what's all the fuss about?

Zelda (2006c) VS Snake (2006c)

Zelda has a strength of 41.02.
Snake has a strength of 43.00.

Snake wins with 52.30% of the vote!

Ganon is STRONGER than Zelda, and this is AFTER the release of TP. He's totally got this.
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ZFS | Posted 8/9/2007 6:32:57 PM | message detail
I expect to see that copy and pasted millions of times once we get the bracket!

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