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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 446
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/7/2007 2:33:17 PM | message detail |
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pft, DK dominates if you're talking about design. I mean, he's an ape...with a tie. It just doesn't get any better than that. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 8/7/2007 2:34:49 PM | message detail |
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Even then, I might take SF64 > DKC -- it did make it to the Virtual Console, afterall. Incidentally, DKC and DKC2 are both on the VC. --- Mustache...and green... http://www.rit.edu/~zmb0386/Top100.pdf |
| ToadYoshi | Posted 8/7/2007 2:36:50 PM | message detail |
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Midna beats Balthier. I think DK beats Fox, but it's close. We don't have too much of a read on either of them, except that DK/MC match. --- Yoshi > Most. Toad > All. Mario Kart forever. I did it for the lolz! |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/7/2007 2:38:08 PM | message detail |
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Well, I'm talking about mainstream popularity. DK64 was hugely popular in America, twice as popular as SF64. It was? I mean it might have higher sales... but I definitely don't think it was more popular. DK64 has plenty of detractors (myself included). I don't know many people who didn't love Star Fox 64. --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/7/2007 2:40:14 PM | message detail |
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DK through 2k6 Master Chief probably is as good of an x-stat value as
you'll be able to assign him. that puts DK at like 27%. seems like a
good spot, I guess. --- xexyz |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/7/2007 2:42:47 PM | message detail |
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Master Chief (2006c) VS Vivi (2005c) Master Chief has a strength of 27.47. Vivi has a strength of 27.26. Master Chief wins with 50.38% of the vote! A win of 891 with 116,571 total votes cast. heh. you can tell I'm bored. --- xexyz |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/7/2007 2:49:08 PM | message detail |
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Meh, I think that the dislike for DK64 is probably overrated. Lots of people did
like it. I'd certainly put it above, say, Banjo-Kazooie, if the two
were to meet. Looking at the stats...I'd put if above Doom. Not
terribly strong, no, but again, it's better than most of Fox's games. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/7/2007 2:58:46 PM | message detail |
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DK also has the bigger association with Mario. He's been in the Mario
Sports games, Mario Party, and Mario Kart. Not to mention the popular
Donkey Kong Land games on the Game Boy. Being an icon isn't really
enough to be popular in my eyes: you have to have the games to have
actual strength. And games are what Fox doesn't really have. Yeah,
there's Star Fox 64...but that's it. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/7/2007 3:03:15 PM | message detail |
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DK64 would beat Banjo-Kazooie just by the association with DK. But I've
seen nothing to suggest that DK64 is the more popular game. And it
isn't just this board, it's from what I've seen around the gaming
community. And again, I point to Samus 2k2 if you're bringing up
needing games for popularity. --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/7/2007 3:04:37 PM | message detail |
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Fox's design is a long way from being anywhere near as cool as Samus's. Unless you're a furry. >_< --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/7/2007 3:07:12 PM | message detail |
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you don't have to want to bang Fox to like his character design! I point to Sonic. --- xexyz |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/7/2007 3:08:26 PM | message detail |
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Which is why he's not as popular as Samus dur! But I'm not specifically
talking about Fox's physical character design when I mention design.
I'm talking about the design of the Star Fox universe and his role in
it. --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| HaRRicH | Posted 8/7/2007 3:09:39 PM | message detail |
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Incidentally, DKC and DKC2 are both on the VC. Really? I stand corrected, though I predict SF64 still sold more on the VC than either of them. --- PETITION: a "Contest Suggestions" board. Life-changing details below: http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=35717580 |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/7/2007 3:11:42 PM | message detail |
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DKC1 and Star Fox 64 are both in the top 5 on the VC, IIRC. Or were
when Nintendo posted the top five list. Wish I could find it. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/7/2007 3:12:19 PM | message detail |
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well, I'd still take Fox > Diablo. --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/7/2007 3:12:23 PM | message detail |
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By the way, why do you predict SF64 sold more? DKC is, after all, the best-selling non-pack in SNES game. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/7/2007 3:14:56 PM | message detail |
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http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/06/01/1638253 Guess I was wrong. 4/5 Mario games is pretty crazy though. --- Rapid analysis, accurate judgment, and superb powers of concentration. That is all we need. |
| PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/7/2007 3:26:11 PM | message detail |
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Give me DK > Fox any day of the week. There's really no stats to go on, it just feels right. --- Explicit Content. I wish Lei Fang were my mom. I'd like drug her and feel her up and stuff. - Ken |
| XIII_rocks | Posted 8/7/2007 3:30:46 PM | message detail |
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Your mother feels right. Or something to that effect. --- http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=7&topic=34492787 Sign plz "NOT MY DAUGHTER, YOU *****!" - Molly Weasley, Deathly Hallows |
| ZFS | Posted 8/7/2007 3:36:55 PM | message detail |
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Yoshi > Sora; DK > Fox; Midna > Balthier. --- "We need to remember -- to spread the word -- to fight for change." - Snake |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/7/2007 3:41:35 PM | message detail |
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Random thought: if Mega Man vs. Bowser occured, would it be a crazy SFF-fest like MM/Yoshi? --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/7/2007 3:44:35 PM | message detail |
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it wouldn't be as bad. --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/7/2007 3:46:32 PM | message detail |
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okay, looking at suggestions about my bracket.. - Marcus Fenix is "wasted" (who should I "waste" instead of him? someone's got to get tossed to the wolves. maybe Kefka/Phoenix and Fenix/GF? meh, doesn't seem any better to me and you're removing what I think is a very interesting Kefka/GF matchup.) - Toad is wasted - perhaps switch him with Wario and try to find a more interesting match for Toad? - move Yoshi from the 6 seed in his division to the 7 for a matchup with Sora - rearrange the "new blood" so they have more interesting matches - right now I have a lot of the new blood taking each other on (Raiden/Mewtwo, Balthier/Midna), and it would be good to sacrifice a good matchup for overall bracket unpredictability. I'm thinking that moving Balthier into the bottom half of division 6 is an idea, and then splitting up Raiden/Mewtwo somehow. it's kinda tough to give them anything but a debatable match followed by a tripling to a noble niner, though. - Bowser/Ganondorf is too early. I love that matchup though and I want Mega Man to run a serious Gauntlet. hmm.. maybe switch one of them and Crono? now THAT would be a division, and Squall/Bowser or Squall/Ganondorf would be a pretty awesome matchup. of course, that doesn't solve the "too early" problem.. - SORRY LOPEN, I AM NOT PUTTING GILGAMESH/CATS IN MY BRACKET. --- xexyz |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/7/2007 4:00:17 PM | message detail |
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Hmmmm, how about sticking Marcus Fenix against Ashe, sticking Hayabusa
against Seifer and then throwing Phoenix Wright to Vincent? That was at
quick glance. I probably could find something better. --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/7/2007 4:03:31 PM | message detail |
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Or perhaps switch Phoenix Wright with Nightmare... Mainly, sacrifice Phoenix Wright and give someone else wasted at least a somewhat debatable match against Fenix. --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/7/2007 4:04:23 PM | message detail |
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I tried to give PW a somewhat decent seed because he's going to get a
lot of nominations. I like your initial idea at first glance though. --- xexyz |
| Haste_2 | Posted 8/7/2007 4:05:45 PM | message detail |
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If Phoenix Wright can someday break the fodder line, the world is a success. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/7/2007 4:08:58 PM | message detail |
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Eh, Phoenix was given a spot last year that other fodder spends their
life dreaming about. A chance to not only win a match, but to be
forever remembered in that match. It's one thing if fodder is beating
fodder (Vyse/Laharl). It's another thing if fodder steps up and adds on
to GFNW! Phoenix had his chance to shine! --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| ZFS | Posted 8/7/2007 4:14:04 PM | message detail |
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Is anyone actually expecting much out of Fenix? Assuming he manages to get in, that is. --- "We need to remember -- to spread the word -- to fight for change." - Snake |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/7/2007 4:17:20 PM | message detail |
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some people seem to expect a solid midcarder. others, about the fodder line. I expect something closer to the fodder line than to DK, but to each their own. --- xexyz |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/7/2007 4:18:26 PM | message detail |
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Again, given how Gears of War sold much more than I thought it did, and
given the right matchup (i.e. non-Nintendo character, no matter how
weak), he'd probably be a bit stronger than Sam Fisher. I'd expect him
to beat Gordon Freeman if anything else. --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| ZFS | Posted 8/7/2007 4:19:23 PM | message detail |
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Closer to fodder, if not fodder, more than anything else is what I'd go
with, too. Doesn't seem like he's got a whole lot of characters you can
put him up against and have it be interesting. Guess we'll see, though. --- "We need to remember -- to spread the word -- to fight for change." - Snake |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/7/2007 4:26:33 PM | message detail |
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will he be as big as Hayabusa? --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/7/2007 4:28:21 PM | message detail |
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Nah, definitely not. Marcus doesn't carry Gears of War like Hayabusa carries Ninja Gaiden. Ryu Hayabusa is Ninja Gaiden. Can't really say the same about Marcus and Gears of War. --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/7/2007 4:29:07 PM | message detail |
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Gears of War does seem to be more popular
though, so Marcus has that as an advantage. He just doesn't have enough
presence in his game to be a solid midcarder. --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/7/2007 4:38:56 PM | message detail |
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okay, I changed a bunch of things. is this better? ~1~ (1) Link (8) Bidoof (4) Ryu Hayabusa (5) Toad (3) Kirby (6) Ashe (2) Leon Kennedy (7) Sub-Zero ~2~ (1) Mega Man (8) Frog (4) Bowser (5) Ganondorf (3) Vincent Valentine (6) Phoenix Wright (2) Zelda (7) Gilgamesh ~3~ (1) Solid Snake (8) Klonoa (4) Fox McCloud (5) Riku (3) Crono (6) Nightmare (2) Squall (7) CATS ~4~ (1) Sephiroth (8) Aeris (4) Luigi (5) Magus (3) Marcus Fenix (6) Akuma (2) Samus (7) Wario ~5~ (1) Cloud (8) Banjo (4) Raiden (5) Donkey Kong (3) Midna (6) Alucard (2) Balthier (7) Tidus ~6~ (1) Master Chief (8) KOS-MOS (4) Mewtwo (5) Vivi (3) Shadow (6) Zero (2) Kratos (7) Yuna ~7~ (1) Sonic (8) Ike (4) Kefka (5) Gordon Freeman (3) Auron (6) Tommy Vercetti (2) Sora (7) Yoshi ~8~ (1) Mario (8) Seifer (4) Knuckles (5) Ryu (3) Tifa (6) Pac-Man (2) Dante (7) Rikku other thoughts: Fenix/Pac-Man, switching Fox and Yuna (and probably more after that to try and find Fox a good match), moving Bowser (but to where?), etc (why am I bothering doing this? who knows!) --- xexyz |
| Jay Lv99 | Posted 8/7/2007 4:42:06 PM | message detail |
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Newcomer to the Stats topic right here. Just kinda browsing and seeing the sorts of things you guys discuss. --- Good news, I don't have to explain who I am in my sig anymore! I'm still the Cream of The SEP fanboyism! |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/7/2007 4:42:20 PM | message detail |
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I've come to the conclusion that putting Link and Cloud in the bracket is dumb. Now Ryu gets squashed! That just sucks! --- Pokemon Pearl Code: 2663-9266-2709 WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 8/7/2007 4:48:00 PM | message detail |
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Is anyone actually expecting much out of Fenix? Assuming he manages to get in, that is. I actually think Augustus "Cole Train" Cole has the best chance of all the Gears of War protagonists in getting in. He has a bit of a cult fanbase amongst GoW fans. General RAAM, the main antagonist, has a good chance as well of getting in, IMO. --- Today's Subliminal Thought Is: |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 8/7/2007 4:51:09 PM | message detail |
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Why would anyone vote for RAAM? He didn't do anything besides kill the
chinese guy with a sword and have an annoying boss fight. --- Demyx is better than Axel. Pokemon Diamond Name: Haruhi FC: 0859 9890 8167 |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/7/2007 4:58:27 PM | message detail |
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I'll predict it: ROUND 1: (1) Link (4) Ryu Hayabusa (3) Kirby (2) Leon Kennedy (1) Mega Man (5) Ganondorf (3) Vincent Valentine (2) Zelda (1) Solid Snake (5) Riku (3) Crono (2) Squall (1) Sephiroth (4) Luigi (6) Akuma (2) Samus (1) Cloud (5) Donkey Kong (3) Midna (2) Balthier (1) Master Chief (4) Mewtwo (6) Zero (2) Kratos (1) Sonic (4) Kefka (3) Auron (2) Sora (1) Mario (5) Ryu (3) Tifa (2) Dante ROUND 2: (1) Link (3) Kirby (1) Mega Man (2) Zelda (1) Solid Snake (3) Crono (1) Sephiroth (2) Samus (1) Cloud (3) Midna (4) Mewtwo (2) Kratos (1) Sonic (2) Sora (1) Mario (3) Tifa ROUND 3: (1) Link (1) Mega Man (1) Solid Snake (1) Sephiroth (1) Cloud (2) Kratos (1) Sonic (1) Mario ROUND 4: (1) Link (1) Sephiroth (1) Cloud (1) Mario FINALS: (1) Link (1) Cloud WINNER: (1) Link I have much faith in Mewtwo and Kratos. And I don't think Marcus Fenix will be worth much. --- Currently Playing: Half-Life 2, Super Castlevania 4 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/7/2007 4:59:20 PM | message detail |
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one could debate Toad > Ryu Hayabusa but I'd take Ryu just to be safe. --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/7/2007 5:00:37 PM | message detail |
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well, saying Toad > Ryu is basically saying Toad > Peach. some people believe this, but I think it's a stretch. --- xexyz |
| Draco1214 | Posted 8/7/2007 5:03:15 PM | message detail |
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I know this has probably been debated all over the place in these
topics, but I'm curious to see how Kratos will do. Maybe I'm overrating
his boost, but I think he can take Zero, especially after Zero's
bombing last year. Or maybe Mega Man in general had a bad year? --- Currently Playing: Half-Life 2, Super Castlevania 4 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/7/2007 5:04:14 PM | message detail |
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I think Toad would be weaker than Peach because he doesn't have SSBM but it does leave you thinking. --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/7/2007 5:07:12 PM | message detail |
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I think Toad and Peach would be about comparable. Peach probably has
more fans, but Toad doesn't have to deal with the Peach
hate/indifference. --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/7/2007 5:13:29 PM | message detail |
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I think Toad and Peach would be about comparable. Peach probably has
more fans, but Toad doesn't have to deal with the Peach
hate/indifference. I want to agree with this, but I fear it's my oldschoolness talking. Toad was a kicker of asses in Mario 2, but these days he's not much more than a party game character. he's really not that much different than Waluigi. --- xexyz |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/7/2007 5:16:33 PM | message detail |
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I thought Toad was like, the worst SMB2 character. --- Network Premiere of: "GA All The Way." Watch one black kid's desperate search for his Wii. |
| trannyscience | Posted 8/7/2007 5:16:57 PM | message detail |
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Mario is by far the worst M2 character. --- xexyz |
| therealmnm | Posted 8/7/2007 5:19:24 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, but it's not like old school gamers have completely disappeared
from this site. He still got a solid 8-9% in the favorite Mario poll.
I'd still say he's well liked all the way up to the N64 generation. Now
he's an afterthought, but I still think a good deal of the GameFAQs
demographic right now would be among that potential Toad fanbase. --- Currently playing: Guitar Hero 2, Gears of War, Saint's Row, SotN (XBLA), Burnout Revenge |
