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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/9/2007 6:50:26 PM | message detail
From therealmnm Posted 8/9/2007 9:31:55 PM #449
Hey guys, what's all the fuss about?

Zelda (2006c) VS Snake (2006c)

Zelda has a strength of 41.02.
Snake has a strength of 43.00.

Snake wins with 52.30% of the vote!

Ganon is STRONGER than Zelda, and this is AFTER the release of TP. He's totally got this.


It's really not that bad an upset pick, but I wouldn't take it.

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/9/2007 6:52:42 PM | message detail
What's the biggest boost we've ever seen from someone getting a game in their own series? Dante from DMC3, maybe?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/9/2007 6:53:47 PM | message detail
The Zelda trio.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/9/2007 6:54:45 PM | message detail
spoilers: crono's gonna get a boost for no reason this year

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swirIdude | Posted 8/9/2007 6:54:49 PM | message detail
Well if Link is in a match, and beats Cloud 60-40, we'll have our biggest boost.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/9/2007 6:58:06 PM | message detail
The Zelda trio.

I don't think they've boosted substantially from any game releases. I want to get an idea of what TP could do for them.
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BeTheMan | Posted 8/9/2007 7:13:19 PM | message detail
1. Who will be the strongest Non-Noble 9 member of this Contest?

Ganondorf

2. Who will be the strongest new character in this contest?(Hell you can put Raiden if you like since he's basically new since being SFF'd shouldn't count for anything.)

I haven't played TP and I wasn't impressed with the FFXII cast, so, uh....Seifer? I don't expect any new characters to reach 25% on Base Link, regardless.

3. Will Ryu be able to avoid a doubling from a Noble 9 member once again and stand his ground against them, or his time to decrease and start being trampled upon finally come?

Ryu won't survive long enough to face a Noble Niner.

4. If you had to predict a match that would be most controversial(think Kefka/Vercetti, Crono/Mario, etc)what would it be?

Master Chief/Vaan

5. What character will create the biggest upset of the contest?

No idea, it all depends on the draw...but I think Vaan will create a bit of a stir by making it into the bracket.

6. Who will be at the bottom of the x-stats?

Bidoof if it makes it. Otherwise, CATS.

7. Who will be the better joke character if both of them make it. Bidoof or Matt the Mii?

Bidoof.

8. Finally, what character will gain the biggest boost, and which will gain the biggest decrease in strength?

Decrease: Sephiroth will be the biggest name to show a noticeable decrease in strength. Statswise...Tifa (if she makes it in), even though that's a cheap pick.

Increase: Kratos, because he has a lot of room for growth.
HaRRicH | Posted 8/9/2007 8:08:31 PM | message detail
I can understand his logic behind Ganon/snake. basically that Gabon is the strongest non-nobler and is nintendo, so prior to ssbb's release ganon will be able to drain his fairweather ninty support. sure i dont buy it for a second, but its not like its completely out of nowhere.

I can understand that. I just hope he also compares Samus/Solid to Samus/Ganon.


It's still the second most anticipated game on the site, behind only Brawl.

Wasn't Halo 3 and FF13 both ahead of it? Twice at that?
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wavedash101 | Posted 8/9/2007 8:10:05 PM | message detail
I'd take Halo 3 over MGS4 easily in terms of hype...FFXIII is a bit too far off with too little info...

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Warsola | Posted 8/9/2007 8:24:25 PM | message detail
...what the hell? This is my bracket we're talking about. Me considering this pick means it is a lock to fail miserably. >_>
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/9/2007 8:41:42 PM | message detail
Halo 3 is more hyped because 1. it's closer 2. its on the more popular console.

If MGS4 went multiplatform, I could see it being a hypemachine on Halo-like levels.

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/9/2007 8:51:30 PM | message detail
I'd take Halo 3 over MGS4 easily in terms of hype...FFXIII is a bit too far off with too little info...

On GameFAQs? I'm not sure about that.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/9/2007 10:03:36 PM | message detail
The new poll is rather interesting so far...
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/9/2007 10:05:30 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2823

It'll be interesting to compare the two.
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therealmnm | Posted 8/9/2007 10:17:49 PM | message detail
Heh, the chunk of anti-Halo (Xbox?) votes are expected. I'm interested to see how much of the site plans on buying the game though.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/9/2007 10:21:02 PM | message detail
There's a big difference between anti-Halo and anti-Xbox. The 360 has a whole lot more going for it than lousy FPSs.
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therealmnm | Posted 8/9/2007 10:52:42 PM | message detail
Which is why I put a question mark by it. There still is definitely an anti-Xbox demographic on this site. It's just not as widespread as it used to be.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/9/2007 10:59:26 PM | message detail
Yeah.

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Lopen | Posted 8/10/2007 2:14:06 AM | message detail
Guys, guys... I just bought a twelve pack of Master Chief soda today. I was psyched.


1. Who will be the strongest Non-Noble 9 member of this Contest?

My money's still on Vincent.

2. Who will be the strongest new character in this contest?(Hell you can put Raiden if you like since he's basically new since being SFF'd shouldn't count for anything.)

Raiden

3. Will Ryu be able to avoid a doubling from a Noble 9 member once again and stand his ground against them, or his time to decrease and start being trampled upon finally come?
Ryu has his closest N9 match to date this year. He'll face up against Crono and pull some reverse SNES SFF. Buhlee dat.

4. If you had to predict a match that would be most controversial(think Kefka/Vercetti, Crono/Mario, etc)what would it be?
See #5. It'll be a controversial win.

5. What character will create the biggest upset of the contest?
Master Chief. Has a Halo game ever been released during a contest? I'm pretty sure not. It's gonna be good.

6. Who will be at the bottom of the x-stats?
Let me think... an entrant that'll blindside us as to how it even got in, or an SFF match of epic proportions. Hmmm. Too damn hard without a bracket to answer this question... let's go with Bidoof getting SFFed to hell by Mewtwo.

7. Who will be the better joke character if both of them make it. Bidoof or Matt the Mii?
I think they're both kinda lame, but I side with Matt the Mii.

8. Finally, what character will gain the biggest boost, and which will gain the biggest decrease in strength?
Master Chief will get the biggest boost, (I'm unphased by this poll) Crono will have the biggest drop. (It's long overdue!)
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jonthomson | Posted 8/10/2007 3:13:12 AM | message detail
1. Who will be the strongest Non-Noble 9 member of this Contest?

Ganon and it's not close

2. Who will be the strongest new character in this contest?(Hell you can put Raiden if you like since he's basically new since being SFF'd shouldn't count for anything.)

Probably Midna but I think the range there is huge.

3. Will Ryu be able to avoid a doubling from a Noble 9 member once again and stand his ground against them, or his time to decrease and start being trampled upon finally come?

Ryu'd get 34% on anyone except Clink.

4. If you had to predict a match that would be most controversial(think Kefka/Vercetti, Crono/Mario, etc)what would it be?

You really can't predict this kind of thing.

5. What character will create the biggest upset of the contest?

I could see Ganon knocking off someone at the bottom of the N9. I'm also rating Marcus Fenix higher than most, given a 4/5 match against a midcarder I could see a win where most would be "lol"

6. Who will be at the bottom of the x-stats?

Someone who really sucks. It's hard to say because there's always a couple of "who?" characters that get in that nobody sees coming. Let's pick some character of some RPG that's flavour of the month that everyone who's played the game loves, except that both of those people aren't going to generate a lot of votes.

7. Who will be the better joke character if both of them make it. Bidoof or Matt the Mii?
Matt. We had a joke Pokemon last time.

8. Finally, what character will gain the biggest boost, and which will gain the biggest decrease in strength?

I can see Kratos boosting to a point where he can win a match. For decreases, anything from CT isn't getting any better.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 8/10/2007 6:15:02 AM | message detail
1. Who will be the strongest Non-Noble 9 member of this Contest?

Vincent won over Squall and Ganondorf, and he was closer to Sonic/Crono/Mega Man than to Ganondorf last year. While both matches were close, I think he will be even more ahead of them this year. I hope that Vincent faces Zelda this year so we can finally confirm that Vinny is the 10th strongest character on this site.

2. Who will be the strongest new character in this contest?(Hell you can put Raiden if you like since he's basically new since being SFF'd shouldn't count for anything.)
Even if we count Raiden, it would still be Midna.

3. Will Ryu be able to avoid a doubling from a Noble 9 member once again and stand his ground against them, or his time to decrease and start being trampled upon finally come?

Yup.

4. If you had to predict a match that would be most controversial(think Kefka/Vercetti, Crono/Mario, etc)what would it be?

Sonic VS Solid Snake, just a few days after Sonic gets confirmed for Brawl >_> Another interesting match would be if Masterchief would face a really poopular character after Halo 3 have been releaed.

5. What character will create the biggest upset of the contest?

I've no idea. MAybe Masterchei if he's still in the contest when HALO 3 is out. I also think that Knuckles, Zero, Shadow or Zelda could surprise.

6. Who will be at the bottom of the x-stats?

Bidoof.

7. Who will be the better joke character if both of them make it. Bidoof or Matt the Mii?

Biddof

8. Finally, what character will gain the biggest boost, and which will gain the biggest decrease in strength?

Either Kratos or Mastercheif will be getting the biggest gain. Biggest drop will be Yuna, if she even makes it in.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/10/2007 9:12:39 AM | message detail
so what does everyone make of today's poll?
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/10/2007 9:24:58 AM | message detail
Vincent won over Squall and Ganondorf, and he was closer to Sonic/Crono/Mega Man than to Ganondorf last year. While both matches were close, I think he will be even more ahead of them this year.

Granted that Vincent beat them both, but he beat Squall pre-KH2 and Ganon pre-LoZ:TP. FF7 is also now two generations ago. Vincent MIGHT beat Squall by a bit more since FF:AC came out in America and DoC came out since their last match, but no way Vincent beats Ganon by more. None.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/10/2007 12:30:29 PM | message detail
I can see Kratos boosting to a point where he can win a match. For decreases, anything from CT isn't getting any better.

Are you implying that Kratos is incapable of winning a match with his 2K6 strength?

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HaRRicH | Posted 8/10/2007 12:33:35 PM | message detail
Ha...Kratos is to the first round as Knuckles is to the second round -- both are more than capable of advancing on, but both keep getting bad draws.
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jonthomson | Posted 8/10/2007 12:37:47 PM | message detail
What Harrich said. Same way CATS could win a match given the right draw.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/10/2007 12:39:27 PM | message detail
well I hope you're not equating his chances of winning a match with CATS' chances. Either way, Kratos is winning a match this year.

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Zylo the wolf | Posted 8/10/2007 12:43:29 PM | message detail
Nah Kratos will once again face a horribly underseeded character. The same thing will happen to Riku.

instead of one new GFNW, we will get two.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/10/2007 12:47:47 PM | message detail
Ha...to be fair, if a pre-KH2 Ansem wasn't a good enough draw, CATS doesn't need to win anyway.
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HaRRicH | Posted 8/10/2007 12:48:12 PM | message detail
Kratos VS Riku, who ya got?
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jonthomson | Posted 8/10/2007 12:48:55 PM | message detail
I'm taking Kratos in that one.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/10/2007 12:50:01 PM | message detail
Kratos crushes Riku no problem.

so what does everyone make of today's poll?

These are pretty standard results. What I want is a Metroid Prime 3 poll to compare it to.
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jonthomson | Posted 8/10/2007 12:51:30 PM | message detail
Today's poll needed a "no, I don't own a 360, and if I got one I'd get Gears instead" option
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Yesmar | Posted 8/10/2007 12:55:01 PM | message detail
1. Who will be the strongest Non-Noble 9 member of this Contest?

Ganondorf, although I would place him just barely over Vincent. He just didn't have that prominent of a role in TP to me.


2. Who will be the strongest new character in this contest?(Hell you can put Raiden if you like since he's basically new since being SFF'd shouldn't count for anything.)

I'll just be cliche and say Midna or Balthier

3. Will Ryu be able to avoid a doubling from a Noble 9 member once again and stand his ground against them, or his time to decrease and start being trampled upon finally come?

More like, will he avoid going under 40%. m i rite, m i rite? Seriously, I think he would be able to stop the doubling against anyone except Clinkeroth.

4. If you had to predict a match that would be most controversial(think Kefka/Vercetti, Crono/Mario, etc)what would it be?

Master Chief Vs. somebody big.

5. What character will create the biggest upset of the contest?

Master Chief, Sora, Samus are all potential contenders in my book. Possible Gordon Freeman, if he goes up against a quasi-mainstream character and wins.

6. Who will be at the bottom of the x-stats?

I don't know. I'll just go with someone random like Derek Stiles from Trauma Center.

7. Who will be the better joke character if both of them make it. Bidoof or Matt the Mii?

Matt will probably do better as long as LUE doesn't spam for Bidoof like they did Nidoran Female.

8. Finally, what character will gain the biggest boost, and which will gain the biggest decrease in strength?

Biggest boost = Master Chief, albeit it will be temporary.
Biggest Decrease = Mega Man or Crono
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 8/10/2007 12:58:08 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=-4

Entrant #1 FTW
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/10/2007 1:05:29 PM | message detail
Ganondorf would get a big boost from TP even if he wasn't in it, just from increased Zelda awareness.

Going from in-game roles, Zelda definitely deserves a bigger boost though, thanks to that incredibly awesome scene with her.
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/10/2007 1:06:19 PM | message detail
increased zelda awareness? can it really become more aware?

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 8/10/2007 1:11:59 PM | message detail
Uh...you know what I mean. Increased popularity for the series makes its characters more popular.
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jonthomson | Posted 8/10/2007 1:18:54 PM | message detail
This topic needs more Mr. Saturn quotes:

HaPPy. BOinG.
mORE HaPPy. DinG DinG.
mUCH mORE HaPPy. BOO BOO'S.
BiG BiG HaPPy. zOOOOOm!
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PortugalTheMann | Posted 8/10/2007 1:20:23 PM | message detail
i guess... i mean i guess that's why im not taking Ganon > Vincent this year, because I really don't think it's going to make him any more popular than he was before. he was just there, doing what he always does. if you didnt like him before hes not doing anything to suddenly make you like him, and i really doubt TP brought in that many new fans.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/10/2007 1:39:26 PM | message detail
Kratos VS Riku, who ya got?

I take Riku with that one. I expect that one to be really, really close.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 8/10/2007 2:30:40 PM | message detail
I take Ganon over Vincent, but more as a result of Vincent not having anything this year as opposed to starring in his own game last year.

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KnuxBeatMagus | Posted 8/10/2007 2:31:13 PM | message detail
...What's going on in this topic?
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 8/10/2007 2:32:02 PM | message detail
Kratos would totally beat Riku
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 8/10/2007 2:33:41 PM | message detail
I would go with Riku, since he have done better on better opponents, but that was before GoW2. I guess Kratos should still be considered to be the favourite....
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/10/2007 2:34:20 PM | message detail
I dunno.. I think Kratos would have to make a pretty big jump to even come close. I feel safe with Riku.
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JDTAY | Posted 8/10/2007 2:35:15 PM | message detail
To 500
Zylo the wolf | Posted 8/10/2007 2:36:06 PM | message detail
Jay Solano for the CBVI!
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 8/10/2007 2:36:51 PM | message detail
Mewtwo > Vivi
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 8/10/2007 2:37:34 PM | message detail
n00btwo sucks
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